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Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Judge is a beast, Mookie is a beast, and gently caress the Braves into oblivion.

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Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

MorrisBae posted:

MLB C/V August: A Plague of Their Own

Please do this

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
OMG Teddybear your avatar is so adorable.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
What's the process of ousting a commissioner in MLB?

What's a scenario for Manfred getting fired?

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

somehow cause the owners to lose money

So in other words if the season gets cancelled.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

GoatSeeGuy posted:

If you can blame it on the players and use that as leverage to extract concessions in the next CBA and possibly permanently curtail the power of the players union, then it’s a short term investment with long term gains.

Make no mistake: this I precisely why Manfred is blaming the players right now.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

bees x1000 posted:

I wish MLB didn't have so much ready made ammunition to turn this on the players. Dudes c'mon wear some masks and stop doing stupid things

The worst part about all of this is that both Manfred and the players are at fault so when Manfred blames players he's not entirely wrong. After all, it's the Marlins players that decided to head to Atlanta's strip clubs. The problem is that he will solely blame them and will very much have very public ammunition for his case. The players are doing themselves a huge disservice in losing public good will. Many aren't even wearing masks and are pretending like the mandates that the general public has been going through since March are beneath them. This will not garner sympathy towards their cause and will only make Manfred look like the good guy.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
gently caress Cespedes and good riddance.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

GalacticAcid posted:

Wtf, what’s your issue with cespedes

Are you joking?

https://twitter.com/SteveGelbs/status/1289975892970594304?s=20

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1290022370984378368?s=20

https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1290070280077840384?s=19

https://twitter.com/nypostsports/status/1290087294649528320?s=19


Guy currently has a .1-soemthing BA while DH, can't run, can't hit, can't field, apparently threw a tantrum because the Mets were benching him for not delivering results, leaves the team mid-game without so much as a goodbye, the team has to call literal security to his room to see if he's not dead, and fucks off.

Covid concerns are one thing, but acting in this manner and like a literal toddler is another. Then there's the fact his Covid opt out feels almost like a bad excuse for bad results.

gently caress him. He handled it in the worst manner possible and garners zero in sympathy.

I suspect this will be the end of his Major League career. What team would hire him after this?

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Jazz is an idiot, that’s all.

Imagine siding with ownership on anything in 2020, much less ownership purposely trying to smear a player for looking out for his own health in a pointless season.

Trying to purposely smear a player looking out for his health? No one knew where he was. He didn't even report to the team and you talk about me being the idiot? He's an rear end in a top hat but please keep defending him.

I'm sorry my Texas hate offended you so much that you have to call others names. Typical Texan overcompensation for living in a mediocre state.

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Aug 3, 2020

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

STAC Goat posted:

Even if we take the Mets' account of it as 100% truth and he really did just book it in the middle of the night without telling the Mets, that's hardly a "gently caress him" level of action and doesn't really answer why the Mets had to release public statements about it an hour before they got the answer from his agent. The Mets and Cespedis have a lovely history and its filled with disputes over his contract and I don't think even most Mets fans would give the organization the benefit of the doubt on all that stuff.

I mean, you JUST learned from the Astros organization. Take those lessons with you.

That's fair.

Opting out? Don't blame you.

Not telling people? It's just a dick move.

I used too harsh language here but I completely get opting out and don't begrudge anyone for doing so. It's the whole mysterious "where the gently caress is he?" thing that got me. I literally thought he might be dead from an overdose like the Tyler Skaggs situation. Turns out dude just took his ball and went home. And you're right, we only have the Mets and Mets' beat writers' word here so I definitely jumped the gun.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

bawfuls posted:

The only source for this right now is the Mets organization. There is no rational reason to believe the Mets on something like this.

At the same time, the Astros situation taught me the lessons in deifying players. I'm full on workers rights but I'm now fully doubtful of players intentions as well. Currently the Astros are pretending they didn't do anything wrong. "Why do people hate us? Why don't they just get over it." "Altuve didn't cheat." Right. He sure did great at the Dodgers. Marlins players went to a strip club. Cards players went all out and now they're starting to rack up Covid cases. So I no longer take the players for their word either. Most have acted like complete mollycoddled toddlers in regards to the season and opted out of a bubble while acting entitled to their fame and stardom while acting like complete morons.

So you're right about the Mets organization but I'll be damned if I believe any player off the bat either. The whole league is tainted with idiocy and greed.

So a player disappears without telling people? Sounds like an MLB player. No different than banging trash cans and going all "we're the villains now!" Par for the course for someone that makes 100 million plus but refuses to wear masks and keeps on high fiving during a pandemic.

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Aug 3, 2020

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

rare Magic card l00k posted:

Because with the Mets, assuming the worst usually means you're still giving the Mets organization too much credit.

Remember the time Cespedes said he was attacked by a boar?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28417760/report-wild-boar-yoenis-cespedes-ankle-injury

I mean, disappearing is on brand.

Mets loving up a situation and making it worse is even more on brand for them.

GalacticAcid posted:

Jazz i promise you that you gotta relax a bit

My dad died, I'm dealing with my city/state fight Covid, I'm unemployed. Baseball is all I have right now.

Even with the Mets playing as badly as they have I've enjoyed the last week and have watched every game and multiple games obsessively because I'm clinging to a season that may end by the end of this very week.

STAC Goat posted:

I think its healthy to recognize that players are just people and people sometimes suck balls.

But like the neutral position between "maybe the player's an rear end in a top hat" and "maybe the organization are dicks" should probably be "well that's another hosed up screwy Met story" not "gently caress that guy, good riddance."

True enough.

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Aug 3, 2020

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Intruder posted:

Man, there goes the gimmick

e: I'm very biased against "gently caress labor" arguments to be fair

e2:


Replied before seeing this post. I get trying to distract yourself from life going bad. Hope things get better

I'm a full on socialist so I would never want to ever make an interpretation that I'm anti labor at all.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Spoeank posted:

I have never met a socialist who brainlessly swallows whatever antilabor pablum they've been fed before, hot drat


Intruder posted:

Maybe reconsider this wording then

I typed out a rebuttal but you're right.

It's still loving infuriating how millions of Americans haven't gotten small business support from the government, face eviction due to Covid, have their stimulus checks basically stolen by thieves (debt collectors) but some professional ball players that get paid millions can't be assed to maybe not go to strip clubs or bars and wear masks while inside the dugout, basic poo poo millions of ordinary Americans have been avoiding *checks calendar* almost half a year now. But that's also because MLB has not rolled out a league wide plan of safety as well.

So yeah, you're right.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boziNFgWhY0

I stan Clayton Kershaw. The unique throw, the stop after he kicks his leg up, the masterful pitching he does. He did better yesterday than in recent outings. Dodgers are a joy to watch and I love how close it seems Betts is with so many of his teammates already (especially Turner :3:).

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Cespedes straight up told teammates the night before he wasn't coming back and told his agent to deal with the Mets. The Mets didn't get the message for whatever reason. Why someone wants to instantly blame Cespedes instead of the loving Mets is beyond me. He doesn't owe them anything.

Source?

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Thank you. I haven't read this and hope it could put some light on the situation.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Paracaidas posted:

No problem! For those without subs:


For real. Via apparently nonCespedes sources, he told multiple teammates and then left it in the hands of his agent (the guy whose primary responsibility is... interacting with management on behalf of his client). That none of the players would have (even secretly) told management when asked where he was/if he was okay beggars belief so I'm left with a choice between the Mets not asking his teammates if anyone knew where he was (ludicrous for any nonmet org) or that they found out and handled it through the media because "that crazy Cespedes" reflects better on Brodie than players bailing the org for their own safety.


It's still bizarre.

Even going by the Athletic, he let teammates know but never told management and had his agent talk to them. It still doesn't make him look good at all. Mets definitely shouldn't have announced the whole "we have no idea where Cespedes is! He could be dead!!!" but Ces also did himself no favors. Why can't the Mets be normal? Save us, Cohen!

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

TMMadman posted:

Much like you should use always use a lawyer when talking to a cop regardless of the circumstances; using your agent to talk to management about you leaving the season is probably the right thing to do since your agent is there to communicate issues and deal with management.

I agree. I can only assume his agent completely hosed up or the Mets are completely taking everyone for a ride. Either way it's headache inducing.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

mcmagic posted:

I don't think this is true. A lot of their moves haven't worked out but I don't think they were obviously horrible when they happened. I do think their handling of their pitching last off season was obviously horrible but Diaz was REALLY good in 18... It wasn't obvious that he would suck all of a sudden. Lawrie also had a great year in 2018.

Are you joking? Beyond the conflict of interest of hiring an agent responsible for multiple player contracts on the Mets, there's trading away and selling off Mets prospects, and other decisions. Luis Rojas so far seems to be utterly questionable as well. gently caress the Wilpons.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Ces spotted at a mall day after opting out. Lmao if true. Includes a pic but could have easily been taken months ago.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDbz1ePF4x-/?igshid=1287iac8covqv

Dinosaurs! posted:

https://twitter.com/jonheyman/status/1290341072007245825?s=12

Those players are dumbasses, no doubt, but MLB is just as much to blame for thinking “strongly discouraged” would mean anything more than jack poo poo.

After the handling of Astros scandal it's not a eurprise the league wouldn't threaten outright suspension for not following Covid rules.

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 3, 2020

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Athletic follow up

https://twitter.com/whutyearisit/status/1290292656535347200?s=19

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Kirios posted:

END THE SEASON ALREADY WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

STAC Goat posted:

I mean, lots of countries are handling it better than us. Its entirely possible that by the time April 2021 comes we'll have had a massive political overhaul and a federal government that organizes a proper and serious handling of things. Its even possible that by November or so enough poo poo will have shifted enough to scare people into doing the necessary things and not protecting their political interests. God willing.


Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1290440706008457217?s=19

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
https://twitter.com/theaceofspaeder/status/1290441721369841671?s=19

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
https://twitter.com/stevegelbs/status/1290453856032362496?s=21

This includes McNeil who is out for lower back tightness. Three fielder's in a day. What the gently caress.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
What the gently caress is going on with MLB?! :wtc: "Play ball, Marlins!" "Wait we haven't had full test results back!" It hasn't even been two weeks. What in the flying gently caress?

abelwingnut posted:

does anyone actually care about this season? i thought i might be able to get into it the first weekend, but every dumb thing that can happen is happening and it all just feels so amateur and unprofessional and non-mlb from all the extracurricular things going on. it's just not fun. like, one of the big reasons baseball is great is the narrative you build up over months and months. now it just lacks any cohesive story and these are just disjointed games with random players going down for random things.

just...eh.

I don't find it legitimate and I'm following it obsessively because there's baseball to be seen and life is poo poo right now.

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Aug 5, 2020

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

The Pussy Boss posted:

A fastball to the head could literally kill someone. Please stop defending headhunting ITT, I come to this forum to avoid takes like that.

No one said to hit them in the head. Just hit them below the head. They deserve it and Manfred caused this.

Joe Kelly didn't deliberately aim at them. Dude gave up a whole rear end walk and couldn't locate his pitch which is why he went exclusively with breaking balls against Correa.

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Aug 5, 2020

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Kirios posted:

Nothing brings a smile to my face more than this forum rushing to defend noted piece of poo poo Joe Kelly.

Nothing brings a smile to my face more than certain posters on this forum rushing to defend the noted piece of poo poo baseball club the Houston Astros.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

STAC Goat posted:

From what I gather Kelly had words with Springer or Brantley after the play at 1st and then he was doing that pouty face thing right after the AB and before Correa came up with that hilariously stupid line. Correa might have said something before Kelly started but since we're not all 5 years old I don't guy by "he started it!" rules. And of course there's Kelly's considerable history.

I think Correa absolutely should have been suspended as well if MLB was serious about preventing benches clearing. Correa absolutely instigated that as well and could have at any time walked away if he too wasn't a huge rear end in a top hat. And that's the real problem. Because MLB isn't serious about keeping the players safe or safe distance protocols or any of that, they just don't want people throwing at the Astros and making this more of a thing.

Correa went and took his cheating a sign of pride and turned it into a city wide rally cry. Imagine loving a player, an entire team, and seeing them all complicit in a team wide cheating scandal. Usually cheating is isolated between a few players, but not an entire systemic wide effort to cheat.

Correa is a piece of poo poo and none of this would happened if the Astros players weren't rightly reprimanded. But then, just like with Covid players that go to casinos and strip clubs, Manfred's weak leadership lets them coast.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

bawfuls posted:

very cool whoever decided to pay the wifebeater to delete my timeless and lovely dancing Vin

Still haven't bought premium because of Lowtax.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Tonight's the anniversary since Willie Mays' HoF acceptance speech.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Holy poo poo the Mets won with good defense!

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Come see the Mets do their thing!

https://twitter.com/Mets/status/1291156629006712833?s=20

https://twitter.com/Mets/status/1291154063296466951?s=20

And the Mets' rookie?

https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1291150053869051905?s=20

Look at this kid.

https://twitter.com/SNYtv/status/1291142492155514880?s=20

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Aug 6, 2020

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

seiferguy posted:

This'll warm the old cockles of your heart:

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1291046840016699395

(don't read the comments, etc etc)

The close proximity everyone was showing in this made me nervous until I realized it was old.

Cute video.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
The Mets get a day off, finally!

Imagine playing every day for 2-3 weeks without a day off.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Really good article on the Hiroshima NPB team and the hope they gave the people after it was bombed.

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/travel-leisure/article/3095934/how-baseball-gave-hiroshima-hope-after-atomic-bomb-and-how

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Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

explosivo posted:

That was a really good read, thanks for sharing it. I'm probably going to sound like an idiot saying this but it's easy to forget that we dropped a loving atomic bomb on two cities filled with civilians, although according to this article that was definitely the intention of the government. It's especially crazy that this Beirut explosion just happened days before the 75th anniversary because we know that blast was like 1/10th of the power of those bombs and we know first hand what it did to a city.

Anyway, go phils :toot:

Yeah I knew the Carps had a lot of impact in Hiroshima because the manhole covers had the mascot on it and you can't go anywhere without seeing him but didn't quite know the full extent of the relationship between the team and the city. In hindsight it makes a lot of sense. Pretty drat hard to not want to cheer for the Carps knowing their history.

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