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Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009


Explosion video here from three points of view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93tV6-0Ugwk

The Guardian updated feed: https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...lebanon-capital

quote:

Beirut explosion: more than 50 dead and 2,750 wounded, says Lebanon health ministry – live updates
Interior minister says ammonium nitrate likely caused at least one explosion amid reports hospitals too damaged to treat patients

Full report: huge explosion in Beirut
‘We’re cursed’: shock and despair as explosion devastates city
Beirut explosion – in pictures

mallratcal posted:

https://twitter.com/umashankarsingh...src=twsrc%5Etfw

You can see a lot of small explosions in this video. So they may have had fireworks stored there but not enough to flatten the port.


quote:

23m ago
16:05

What we know so far

Two huge explosions have rocked Lebanon’s capital city, killing at least 50 people, injuring thousands more, and sending an enormous blast wave across the city that shattered windows, knocked down doors and shook buildings.

The scale of the damage caused by the blast is huge, with buildings miles from the port explosion in ruin.
While the cause is still unconfirmed, Lebanon’s interior minister said stores of ammonium nitrate likely caused the explosion.

Lebanon’s prime minister, Hassan Diab, has suggested a warehouse that authorities claim was the source of the blast had been the subject of warnings going back to 2014. He said he would “reveal facts” about the warehouse soon, but does not want to pre-empt an investigation.

Governments worldwide have offered support, including the UK, France, the US, Canada and Israel.
The blast comes at a terrible time for Lebanon, which is on the brink of financial collapse



Picture source: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...4163620414.html

https://twitter.com/tobiaschneider/...703188094529539

Video of aftermath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHutJwAnAZo

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live...intl/index.html



quote:

38 min ago
Here's what the damage looks like inside Lebanese prime minister's headquarters
From CNN's Samantha Beech

Photos taken from inside the Grand Serail, the government palace and the headquarters of Lebanon’s prime minister, showed some damage inside the building.

The building is about 1 mile (1.6 kilometers) from the site of the explosion.

The blast also dealt considerable damage to the Baabda Palace, the official residence of the Lebanese president, according to Lebanese state media.

Helical Nightmares fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Aug 4, 2020

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The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002




Fun Shoe

Sorry, beans for lunch.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002




Fun Shoe

Christ though that's terrifying. Explosions are way too slow and quiet in movies.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

one step done and another begun



Nap Ghost

Helical Nightmares posted:

Some news sites are claiming that the Beirut state run media is saying the explosion was from a bunch of stored fireworks.

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/stat...9421600770?s=20

You could see what looked like fireworks going off before the big explosion so it could have been started by that.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007

VOTE
FOR
PEDRO


I heard allegedly it was a grain elevator / Silo explosion that caused the first explosion, then that had basically set fire to the port district which promptly caused the stored explosives to blow up.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

They'll never find the big cache of explosives, we put it next door to the PM.

...

Brilliant!

ShortyMR.CAT
Sep 25, 2008




Lipstick Apathy

God drat that was big.

Stored fireworks my rear end

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003

Goodnight Canada!



More video from twitter.

https://twitter.com/FadyRoumieh/sta...src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/FadyRoumieh/sta...src=twsrc%5Etfw

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010



Helical Nightmares posted:

Some news sites are claiming that the Beirut state run media is saying the explosion was from a bunch of stored fireworks.

lol gently caress off with this

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Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009


Mozi posted:

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/stat...9421600770?s=20

You could see what looked like fireworks going off before the big explosion so it could have been started by that.

I have heard some news agencies say that they analyzed the explosion footage and you could see flares of light going off in the black cloud. They claim that could be the fireworks.

However:

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live...e83a4e3263c09ac

quote:

3 hr 3 min ago
Explosion caused by "confiscated high explosive material," Lebanese official says
From CNN's Hamdi Alkhshali in Atlanta

Major General Abbas Ibrahim, of Lebanon's General Security Directorate, said the massive blast that shook Beirut's port area on Tuesday was caused by confiscated “high explosive materials.”

It would be "naive to describe such an explosion as due to fireworks," Ibrahim told Lebanese TV.

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010



redm
Feb 20, 2016




Sugartime Jones

that shockwave is loving scary lmao

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




From my friend in Beirut:

I live 6.5 KM away from where the explosion happened at fireworks warehouse at the Beirut harbor. Apparently it was an accident. The explosion as you can see from the videos in the partage group was huge.. I was in my kitchen and felt the explosion then the shortwave.. the entire building shook and things started flying around in the kitchen... sharp objects too but they missed me... it was surreal and very reminiscent of the war when in the same place a giant gas container back in the late 80's also blew up... I went out to the balcony where my mom was and got her to go in and people where in panic mode on the streets... I am glad it was an accident and not a terrorist act or an act of war beacuse then the repercussions would have been far worse... any way... We are safe and sound and that is all that counts for now.... and I can't but make parallels with Lac Megantic


Next day edit: turns out he actually lives 7.5km away, lying bastard!!

Bronze Fonz fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Aug 5, 2020

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003

Goodnight Canada!



Helical Nightmares posted:

I have heard some news agencies say that they analyzed the explosion footage and you could see flares of light going off in the black cloud. They claim that could be the fireworks.

However:

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live...e83a4e3263c09ac

https://twitter.com/umashankarsingh...src=twsrc%5Etfw

You can see a lot of small explosions in this video. So they may have had fireworks stored there but not enough to flatten the port.

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009


mallratcal posted:

You can see a lot of small explosions in this video. So they may have had fireworks stored there but not enough to flatten the port.

Yeah that's good footage of the flashes, and the secondary explosion in general.

Any footage of the initial blast? Can't seem to find that but I'd imagine it would be difficult to catch.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004
Im gonna put cupcakes on your mind


The world is run by absolute idiots. That was dynamite.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014



gently caress, no way the death toll isn't in the thousands

Fallows
Jan 20, 2005

If he waits long enough he can use his accrued interest from his savings to bring his negative checking balance back into the black.

So from the documentary I watched about the oklahoma bombing in order for amnonium nitrate to explode it needs to be mixed perfectly with a fuel as it is only an oxidizer. For them to confiscate 2700 tons of explosive mixture at once and it not make the news is weird.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003

Goodnight Canada!



Helical Nightmares posted:

Yeah that's good footage of the flashes, and the secondary explosion in general.

Any footage of the initial blast? Can't seem to find that but I'd imagine it would be difficult to catch.

Yeah, we'll probably have to wait and see if any security cam footage exists/hasn't been destroyed.

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010



Fallows posted:

So from the documentary I watched about the oklahoma bombing in order for amnonium nitrate to explode it needs to be mixed perfectly with a fuel as it is only an oxidizer. For them to confiscate 2700 tons of explosive mixture at once and it not make the news is weird.
your avatar is really good and unlocked nostalgia i had completely forgotten about thank you

zegermans
Oct 19, 2006




The wild thing is the red cloud is all the stuff that didn't blow up

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]

that's a big loving boom. i don't think even the Texas city one was that bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDC3iKbTzY

it's telling that there are multiple Texas City explosions

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009


https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live...intl/index.html

quote:


5 min ago
Beirut explosion generated seismic waves equivalent of a magnitude 3.3 earthquake
From CNN's Paul P. Murphy and Judson Jones

Data collected by the United States Geological Survey shows that the massive explosion in Beirut was so powerful, it created seismic waves equivalent of a magnitude 3.3 earthquake.

However, the magnitude 3.3 equivalent isn't, "directly comparable to an earthquake of similar size."

That's because surface type blasts, like the Beirut explosion, don't produce as large a magnitude as an earthquake of similar energy would according to Don Blakeman, a geophysicist at the National Earthquake Information Center. Blakeman said most of the energy goes into the air and buildings.

"Not enough of the energy is transmitted into the rocks in the ground," he said.

Meaning, if the explosion had occurred below the surface of the earth, the magnitude would have registered even higher.

Also death toll has risen at the moment to at least 73.

Edit:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...4163620414.html

quote:

21:11 GMT - 'Unacceptable' that 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate stored without safety measures: President Aoun
In remarks published on the Presidency Twitter account, Lebanese President Michel Aoun has said that it is "unacceptable" that 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate were stored in a warehouse for six years without safety measures and vowed that those responsible would face the "harshest punishments".

21:00 GMT - 2,700 tonnes of ammonium nitrate at Beirut's port when they exploded: Official
General Security Chief Abbas Ibrahim says 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate were in Beirut's port on the way to Africa when they exploded.

Ibrahim made the comments after a meeting of Lebanon's Higher Defense Council, which brings together the president and all major security agencies.

Helical Nightmares fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Aug 4, 2020

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


I suspect at least some of the people involved were, in fact, already punished very harshly

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020



Stunt_enby posted:

lol gently caress off with this

"stored fireworks" is code for israel

Rotten
May 21, 2002

As a shadow I walk in the land of the dead

Stolen from the OSHA thread. You can see the fireworks or whatever they are a lot better. Hope that dude is ok.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SVNewsAl...ingawful.com%2F

The Cubelodyte
Sep 1, 2006

Practicing Hypnolaw since 1990

Grimey Drawer

Jesus Christ. If my super-lovely napkin math is right, that much ammonium nitrate going up at once is roughly a 1.2 kiloton explosion.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm."

John Stamos

Upset Trowel

The Cubelodyte posted:

Jesus Christ. If my super-lovely napkin math is right, that much ammonium nitrate going up at once is roughly a 1.2 kiloton explosion.

ya they even got a video of it

MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!

So they stored 1750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate next to (or possibly with) a warehouse full of fireworks.

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

The world is run by absolute idiots.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010


The Voice of Labor posted:

"stored fireworks" is code for israel

That would be pretty amateurish for Israel, I’d expect them to target an oil plant, power plant or missile silo.

AFancyQuestionMark
Feb 19, 2017


it's spelled Beirut, op

The Cubelodyte
Sep 1, 2006

Practicing Hypnolaw since 1990

Grimey Drawer

I read it was like 2,800 tons of ammonium nitrate. Either way, loving hell. The final death toll is sure to be in the hundreds at least.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020



Fruits of the sea posted:

That would be pretty amateurish for Israel, I’d expect them to target an oil plant, power plant or missile silo.

targeting a grain silo seems like it would lead to a lot of direct suffering

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?


2020 is a real Akira movie right now.

The Cubelodyte
Sep 1, 2006

Practicing Hypnolaw since 1990

Grimey Drawer

Corroborating the "it's been there for years being dangerous" bit of the story: Crew kept hostages on a floating bomb – m/v Rhosus, Beirut

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

Shut up and die like an aviator.





Fallows posted:

So from the documentary I watched about the oklahoma bombing in order for amnonium nitrate to explode it needs to be mixed perfectly with a fuel as it is only an oxidizer. For them to confiscate 2700 tons of explosive mixture at once and it not make the news is weird.

Nope


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon...trate_disasters

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




Hey, guess which person who's opinion you really don't wanna know about this has just weighed in on this?

https://twitter.com/Independent/sta...775977895895040

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003

Goodnight Canada!



https://twitter.com/HamdiAlkhshali/...src=twsrc%5Etfw

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012



this is falawful

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Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.


Jade Ear Joe


The Beirut explosion is already on that page. I looked, and it seems like it was added 2 hours after the explosion, unless I'm getting time zones wrong (which I probably am). I was expecting it to be a matter of minutes with how obsessive Wikipedia people are.

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