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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.


This is the non-spoiler thread for the weekly episode discussion!

Big Brother US airs three-times weekly, on Sundays, Wednesdays and Thursdays on CBS.

Thursday Show - Live Show where a player is evicted, Head of Household competition held or begins
Sunday Show - Post-HOH Competition events, HOH Nominations
Wednesday Show - Veto Competition, Re-nominations if needed

The season starts August 5th! The theme for this season is All Stars! Fan favorites, runners up and past winners will all be competing this season. This season is starting later than usual due to the Covid pandemic, and extra precautions are being taken to protect the cast and crew.

What is Big Brother?

Depending upon your level of appreciation for gross filth, reality TV shenanigans and sometimes excellent strategic gameplay, Big Brother is either the bottom of the TV barrel or an entertaining way to waste the summer. The American version of the Dutch original, Big Brother crams around 16 people in a soundstage house for approximately 85-95 days. Each week the players or "House Guests" will compete in competitions to determine who has power in the house. The one who wins this power, the "Head of Household" (HOH) has the ability to nominate two people for eviction. These two players, the HOH and three other randomly drawn guests will compete in the Power of Veto competition. The winner of this power will have the ability to veto one of the nominations. If one of the nominations is vetoed, the HOH will have to replace the player who was removed. Once the final two nominees are set, the rest of the house will vote to evict one person from the game. The HOH no longer plays a part unless this vote becomes a tie, in which case they will cast a vote to break it. Once the player is evicted, all the guests save for the previous HOH will compete in a new HOH competition and the process will repeat itself.

Each week will follow this model with some minor variations. All through this process viewers are treated to "Diary Room" (DR) sessions, as the producers will privately speak with each player about their gameplay, their thoughts on other players and the game itself. This interview process also gives the DR the ability to affect the players in subtle or not so subtle ways. (Ex: So you won HOH, who will you nominate? Do you trust player X? Why? Do you believe what they say? Do you think you should make a big move? Is nominating player X really a big move?) The best part of this is that their usually comes across on the live feeds, allowing viewers to see from where plans and moves really come.

Strategy will come into play as alliances are made and broken to ensure ones safety. Unlike some shows like Survivor, this gives the chance for those low on the totem pole to gain power and strike back against majority alliances. Approximately 4-5 weeks into the game, all future evicted players will become members of the jury. Once the house reaches the final three, all three House Guests will compete in three rounds of competition for the final HOH. Once the final HOH is selected, they'll evict the final player. These final two will then go before the jury, who will then select a winner. The various competitions within the house means there are often several opportunities for people to obtain power and exploit it or fake sucking at competitions to fly under the radar. Both strategies often prove successful to various degrees. The strategy sessions among players often prove to be one of the best aspects of the show, as you get a daily running idea of who they are targeting, who they can manipulate to do certain things and ways to ensure they achieve their goals. There is also a generally reliable amount of schadenfreude, as those on the top often hit lows through luck or DR meddling.

Why should I watch?

Perhaps you're a fan or Survivor or Amazing Race or perhaps you've seen one of the other flavors of Big Brother from around the world like the U.K., Canadian or Australian edition. Big Brother U.S. takes many of the same concepts seen in reality competition while also giving one a semi-behind the scenes view of what's really going on. Because the online "live feeds" gives viewers a window into the house for 90% of the week, we can get a good idea of what's really happening with alliances and schemes, what the players are actually like, and what meddling is possibly happening by Big Brother to get certain things to happen. One can then compare that version of reality against what they see on their screens three nights a week on CBS. In past experience, this means that viewers are sometimes treated to racist, homophobic or sexist talk which never makes air. Sometimes this happens to such a degree as to force CBS to acknowledge these actions officially and on air, as was the case with Big Brother 15.

Unlike the original Dutch version and several other international versions, the viewing public generally has no part to play in removing players from the game. However they can sometimes affect certain punishments or rewards through online or phone voting. This can include the gross food choices for the Have Not selected House Guests, or possibly secret tasks assigned to them.

What should I watch?

If you're interested in looking into past seasons, I personally recommend checking out a couple of seasons to various degrees. They'll all available through CBS All Access on the cbs.com website:

Big Brother 1: Most closely followed the original Dutch premise, as viewers voted on who got evicted. The only U.S. season to follow this model.
Big Brother 2: Switched up the format to have the HOH nominate two for eviction and features one of the most highly regarded players in show history.
Big Brother 3: Introduced the Power of Veto, which gave the nominated a better chance to save themselves. BB US took on its present form with this season.
Big Brother 7: The first and only true All Stars season. Featured players from all the previous seasons, and includes one of the fan favorite alliances in show history.
Big Brother 10: General Goon consensus as one of the best seasons, featuring a memorable cast and another contestant in the running for the best in show history.
Big Brother 12: Worthy winner, with some solid gameplay. Features subsequent Survivor player Hayden Moss and unleashed Brenchel, the now married couple of Brendon and Rachel who you might have seen on The Amazing Race.
Big Brother 14: Return of four previous players who act as "Coaches" to newbies. One of the returnees being a fan favorite who displays some of the best gameplay in show history.
Big Brother 16: Solid gameplay from the eventual winner, who ran a clinic on how not to get targeted.
Big Brother 20: First half of this season is an amazing train wreck that eventually runs out of steam.

Seasons to avoid:

Big Brother 9: Slap dash writers strike spring season. The winner later went to jail for illegal oxycodone sales, the rest of the cast was all generally horrible. Possibly worthwhile as a train wreck.
Big Brother 15: The misogynist and racist season. The winner played a decent game, but they and most of the players were generally derogatory and deluded people.
Big Brother 18/19: Poor game play and winners, both seasons featured returning players which greatly hampered and negatively impacted gameplay.
Bir Brother 21: Big Brother 15 Part II

Okay, I'm down to watch

If you're interested, you can tune in several ways:

The CBS Show: Airs three nights a week: Sunday, Wednesday and Thursday. Is a compilation version of what has happened in the house with a live Thursday show.
Big Brother After Dark: Airs every night for three hours from around 11-2 on POP. Rotates between live feeds, censors language and has commercial breaks.
Live Feeds Online through CBS All Access: "24/7" access to the feeds barring ceremonies, competitions and the Thursday live show taping. Also blanks out feeds when some legal issue may arise. i.e. copyrighted song singing or players speaking about someone by name who didn't sign off and allow that.
CBS also provides clips of various memorable events through their Live Streaming Player.

So what do the Live Feeds get you? Four camera feeds from inside the house. Generally two cameras focusing on an area each. Meaning two cameras will cover the same conversation from different angles, while two other cameras cover another conversation. Which room is being covered will be at the mercy of the guys and gals in the control room. They are generally good about switching to conversations/events most at interest strategically or those the most entertaining. It should be noted that live feeds are not required to get a feel for the show or keep up, but it might be of interest to check out one of the previous seasons, then look for live feed clips online to see how it works. If you do find you enjoy a certain player, the feeds give you the ability to see them a lot more, get a better sense of their game and personality.

If you don't get the feeds, you can also still get a daily/hourly/minute by minute run down of what's happening. As several websites post updates on everything that happens on the live feeds within the house. These include:

http://www.bigbrothernetwork.com
http://www.hamsterwatch.com
http://www.jokersupdates.com
http://www.onlinebigbrother.com

If you wish to jump in the live feeds and talk spoilers, head over to the live feeds spoiler thread here.

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.


Reserved for eventual cast list.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



Here to send vibes and support to Goat.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005


I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!




Fallen Rib

I'm lolling at Christmas saying poo poo and it not getting bleeped

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012

SO EMBARRASSING



Have Day and Nicole been stuck at the beginning of the maze the entire game?

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


This game feels like a dumb thing to do on a live show...

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008


* I'm gonna need some
dog treats for this!!!



Watching Christmas get her ball in the hole was tense lol so many close calls

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?


where are they hiding them???? HoH??

Deceptive
Dec 27, 2012


This won''t happen but it'd be hilarious if everyone times out in the other groups. They don't even play the final competition.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005


I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!




Fallen Rib

curiousCat posted:

where are they hiding them???? HoH??

I was thinking about that too, but I think they want to make it a surprise for everyone at once so I'm sure they will keep the groups of 4 separated, but I can't figure out how the gently caress they are going to do that.

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008


* I'm gonna need some
dog treats for this!!!



Yeah groups of 4 in three other holding areas. I read something about how even the crew has color-coded lanyards and stuff for covid protection/response so probably each group in a different color-coded area then handed off to the front area

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005


I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!




Fallen Rib

Pop Dukes is loving amazing.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

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Missed the first half hour having to figure out how to deal with some BS geoblocking issues but I’m watching now!!!

Deceptive
Dec 27, 2012


So much for hiding your comp skill Ian.

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?


Kevin running over and daintily tapping the button is 100% the same Kevin

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

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Ahahahahaha Janelle thinks she’s one of the best players to never win.

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?


BGrifter posted:

Ahahahahaha Janelle thinks she’s one of the best players to never win.

Janelle still bragging about evicting Will when it LITERALLY LOST HER THE GAME

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Mar 16, 2007

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curiousCat posted:

Janelle still bragging about evicting Will when it LITERALLY LOST HER THE GAME

“Janelle you’ve spent 177 days in the Big Brother house and only managed to get maybe two days right. How does it feel being this inept and getting this many chances?”

Snowmankilla
Dec 6, 2000

True, true



I am not a huge Bayleigh fan in general, but how the hell is she here? Everyone is like top 3, some multiple times? Then she points out she was 11th!? Insane.

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008


* I'm gonna need some
dog treats for this!!!



YAES Nicole!

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

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I like her already. First impression of Nicole A is positive!

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.


Lol, man, having both women groups do the back corners. If the guys get another front one...

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012

SO EMBARRASSING



We did very well.

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?


Teek posted:

Lol, man, having both women groups do the back corners. If the guys get another front one...

Tyler (probably) got put in the group with the two smallest men and the oldest man hmmmm

Context
Sep 11, 2006


It’s incredible that they made a game that’s clearly way too hard to complete for a live show, and then had to run it three more times.

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012

SO EMBARRASSING



Snowmankilla posted:

I am not a huge Bayleigh fan in general, but how the hell is she here? Everyone is like top 3, some multiple times? Then she points out she was 11th!? Insane.

There's rumors that the list went through a couple of revisions after the Covid tests.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

A Little Known FACT: Burger King's Bacon King is superior to the Baconator.


Snowmankilla posted:

I am not a huge Bayleigh fan in general, but how the hell is she here? Everyone is like top 3, some multiple times? Then she points out she was 11th!? Insane.

If you want to become a true all star & legend on CBS. All you have to do is get into a showmance on a reality show and propose on finale night / get married. See Rob / Amber, Brandon / Rachel, etc.

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008


* I'm gonna need some
dog treats for this!!!



I wonder if the actual HOH comp will be a quiz on *other* things in the house

Snowmankilla
Dec 6, 2000

True, true



pospysyl posted:

There's rumors that the list went through a couple of revisions after the Covid tests.

Ahhh. That makes sense and is sad for whoever didn’t make it.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

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gently caress off Kay-sarrrrrrrrr

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012

SO EMBARRASSING



SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

If you want to become a true all star & legend on CBS. All you have to do is get into a showmance on a reality show and propose on finale night / get married. See Rob / Amber, Brandon / Rachel, etc.

You say that, but like, I remember who Bayleigh is.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005


I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!




Fallen Rib

Was Cody bad? I don't remember Cody being bad.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Brandon / Rachel, etc.

Rachel is tied for Big Brother wins with Dr Will, Dan Gheesling and Derrick Levasseur.

Also his name is Brendon.

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012

SO EMBARRASSING



Cody gave away 1 million dollars because he was too good at the game.

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?


David lmao

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

THE STREAK IS OVER


SalTheBard posted:

Was Cody bad? I don't remember Cody being bad.

I feel like he’s a gigantic douche like his brother and Derrick was just good at suppressing that.

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008


* I'm gonna need some
dog treats for this!!!



David!!

also, lol, "No crazy twists this time!"

Julie: "Welcome guys, and now it's time for a crazy twist!"

David: D:

curiousCat
Sep 23, 2012

Does this look like the face of mercy, kupo?


David must be in PTSD hearing "INSTANT COMPETITION UPON ENTERING THE HOUSE"

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

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HELL YEAH! All aboard the Memphis traaaaaaaaaain!

Meh. Cody.

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SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005


I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!




Fallen Rib

Was I tripping or did David ring the bell?

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