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Liquid Communism posted:Perfect opportunity there to have her start out weak, and as such never really using the power because it just reminds her of that fact, only to rediscover the benefits of just seizing the power and never letting go... Exactly!!! It's so frustrating to having all of this potential for a more interesting story in the text that never gets explored by Green. PS: oops I just saw that I messed up a spoiler tag in my post (which I've fixed now), if you see this, could you fix it in your quote too? Thanks!
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Oh nooooooooooLeng posted:I refuse to believe that Embission, an experienced politician, is going to ask a question like this. Leng posted:So why didn't you just do THIS in the first place? Why even bother with the song and dance and the Adriari show? Leng posted:Yes really. The only major non-cishet relationship in the book is this one. Fake edit - okay wait, so Zolind kind of almost makes sense to me. He believes the commoners weren’t keyed, he doesn’t actually want Kambil’s group on the throne, so he’s telling them they have a chance but they have to earn it. He doesn’t really care if they live or not so he isn’t going to key any commoners. Sure. I don’t know why Kambil & co. should know these details if Zolind would actually prefer they die, but sure. But 4/5 commoner groups won, and Dolf was only supposed to key two of the five, so that doesn’t add up. And I really don’t get why Delin is confused, like did he think the message of his was supposed to go directly to Rion and that it wouldn’t be shared because Rion is also a noble or something…? (Also he should definitely be planning to murder Zolind, the guy just said he won’t key the commoners he’s obviously rooting for you to fail c’mon.)
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kaom posted:But 4/5 commoner groups won, and Dolf was only supposed to key two of the five, so that doesn’t add up. And I really don’t get why Delin is confused, like did he think the message of his was supposed to go directly to Rion and that it wouldn’t be shared because Rion is also a noble or something…? (Also he should definitely be planning to murder Zolind, the guy just said he won’t key the commoners he’s obviously rooting for you to fail c’mon.) Pretty much, yeah. Rion is assumed to be One Of The Right People, so of course he'd jump at the chance to get rid of the commoner baggage holding him back.
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quote:CHAPTER FORTY-SIX ...I don't know about you guys, but "madhouse", "complete chaos" and "insanity" all pretty much describe the same thing at the same level of abstraction to me. quote:People danced around screaming out their laughter, and were still being drowned out by the sounds from the crowd outside. It wasn’t possible to hear even shouted conversation, at least until the outer doors were closed. Then it became clear that the servants and various observers weren’t the only ones touched by jubilation. What even is that last sentence?! quote:“Man, we done it!” Holter suddenly came close to shout as he danced. “We done it, an’ it’s you we got to thank for makin’ it happen! On’y one a them noble groups left, an’ four a us! This time one a us’ll do it, damned if we don’t!” I...cannot picture Pagin doing this. Something this uncharacteristic merits a better description than what Green has written. quote:Vallant felt like laughing at the sight of Holter dancing in his robe, but that wasn’t something you did to a friend. I completely missed the part where an actual friendship developed between these two characters. Did anyone see anything? quote:Besides, he was feeling too good himself to want to put anyone down, even if the large gathering area was beginning to seem smaller and smaller. He was not going to let his problem control him, not after they’d been so successful. Hello, situationally convenient claustrophobia! quote:“Well, here comes Eltrina Razas,” Jovvi said, taking Vallant’s attention as well as that of everyone else in their group. “She’s wavering between a feeling of success and a feeling of failure, finding it hard to decide which to go with. I wonder why that is.” This strategy does NOT WORK if the person asking has access to either Spirit or Earth magic. And this suggestion is coming from a Spirit magic user. Though maybe they're just relying on Green's convenient little statement that High talents can't be affected by anyone with a lesser talent in that info-dump ladened chapter with Idian. quote:The last of Jovvi’s words were little more than a murmur, as Eltrina Razas had finally reached them. The woman looked more than a little harried, but apparently wasn’t so distracted that she failed to give Vallant the sort of appraising look she usually did. Vallant hated that look, even though it had helped to make him understand why most women hated the same sort of thing from a man. The appraisal made him feel like less than a human being, more like a possession with no say over who did the possessing… Objectifying people is bad generally, but I can't say that I'm sad about Vallant experiencing it first hand. I'm pretty sure this is the only moment of character growth we see from him, because from this moment on, he stops objectifying women generally, except for one time in the sequel trilogy which is actually a key plot point. quote:“Has any of you seen Lord Simin?” Eltrina said at once, cutting short her usual inspection time. “He was here just a little while ago, and now I can’t find him.” What? Who needs to authorize congratulations? quote:Lord Simin is my … superior, and he was supposed to have introduced himself to you.” This interaction and dynamic between these two characters nothing like the dynamic in their first interaction. I think it's supposed to demonstrate how a power-enhanced Tamrissa is a totally different person to who she used to be. But this is so poorly executed it just reads like there is no history between these two characters. quote:“It’s just that Lord Simin was supposed to tell those of you who won your encounters that you’ll be housed here, in the amphitheater, tonight,” Eltrina continued. Again...this is magical Olympics meets gladiator meets general elections. Why wouldn't all of these logistical details be announced and known well in advance? Why would you need the noble in charge of all the testing authority business run around to tell people this? What an inefficient use of their time; they should be sending flunkies. quote:“It’s an honor reserved only for those who earn it, so—” ...literally what are you gonna do, Eltrina? quote:“We’re not slaves who belong to you, lady,” Lorand said in a growl from where he stood behind Jovvi. “We’re free human beings who have emerged victorious from the first round of these competitions, and we’ll damned well be treated like it! Moderate your tone when you speak to us, or I’ll do it for you.” Pretty terrible plan. I hate this character assassination of Eltrina upon the altar of Green's soapbox. Nobody is this dumb when it comes to straight up raw demonstrations of magical power! quote:And with that she marched away, her nose in the air and her back very straight. Vallant joined the others in watching her go, and then he shook his head. Yep, Eltrina and Simin were shacking up in some broom closet. quote:“The time didn’t take long, but neither did the competition. Let’s follow along and see how she does with ‘those other fools.’” So did Jovvi just skim that memory from Eltrina? quote:Everyone considered that an excellent suggestion, so they drifted after Eltrina. The woman had gotten the attention of a good number of robed figures, and now stood in the midst of them. I...what? How does this even work? And even assuming it does, how would you even enforce this? Who would be doing the enforcing? How would you choose all the replacements? Who would be choosing the replacements? Green has no freaking idea what she's doing with the world building here. quote:“I’ll—have to let you all know if returning to your residences is permitted,” Eltrina said at last, hatred and loathing in her voice. “You’ll all just have to wait here until I can reach—” These are the worst dialogue tags in the world. It's like Green couldn't be bothered with coming up with good dialogue lines where you can tell what emotion the character is having without having to...write it in a dialogue tag. quote:Supporting laughter came from all sides as everyone began to turn away. Vallant’s last view of Eltrina was her frantic screeching in an effort to force everyone to obey her, something she still seemed incapable of understanding that she wasn’t about to get. Then he was too far away to see or hear her any longer, a condition he intended to make permanent as soon as possible. Oh Vallant. You have no idea. quote:“The poor woman is apparently beside herself,” Jovvi murmured as they walked toward the rooms where they’d left their clothing. “She was delighted that she seemed to be back in charge, but now that things have gone wrong again she has no one else to pass the blame to. Her people really do want us handily close tonight, and I’d rather not speculate about why. I’m just relieved that the others supported us.” Just in case you didn't get the memo that was taped to the hammer in our faces. quote:“But going back to our residence won’t guarantee our safety,” Tamrissa reminded them. “It only makes our enemy come a longer distance to reach us, so we’ll have to stay alert. We can take turns standing guard, or at least most of us can. My own perceptions of body heat won’t work at too great a distance, so all I can do is watch everyone else be useful.” Remind me again why this series is called "the Blending" when every important magical thing is just Tamrissa on her own? quote:That’s earned you the right to rest tonight, but I still have a question. Did that protectin’ harm you in any way at all?” Not-spoilers, because this is so bloody obvious: the answer is yes. I do not understand how this is such a big secret when everybody in this world is born with magical talent. I get that there's been societal conditioning and everything but COME ON. This is on par with "who could ever have thought that you could blend FIVE talents instead of just FOUR?!?!?!?!?!". quote:“We simply don’t know enough about how our abilities work, and there’s no one we can consult with about it. For now all we can do is move ahead, and hope there aren’t any pitfalls in our path that we just aren’t seeing.” Maybe just try holding onto the power???? Spoilers for the next book I can't be bothered to look up the exact chapter right now, but that is how long it takes them to think of maybe just...trying this quote:“There are enough pitfalls that we can see,” Tamrissa agreed with a sigh. “I really do have to stop borrowing trouble, not to mention asking questions that have no answers. I think I’ll take a bath instead, as soon as we get home, that is. Anyone interested in joining me?” If Green was truly committed to writing a real polycule, this is the segue for it. quote:He liked it when she teased him, but somehow he sensed that her worry hadn’t disappeared entirely. Well, he didn’t blame her. His hadn’t disappeared either… I have NO IDEA what Vallant is worried about. Or Tamrissa. Like literally is nothing wrong with her other than gaining massive amounts of magical strength. Why the hell aren't you all trying to replicate this WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MAGICAL TOURNAMENT WHERE THE STRONGEST TEAM GETS TO RULE THE EMPIRE?! quote:* * * Delin's just gone full deranged now. quote:“He doesn’t know that you’re our leader, Delin,” Kambil replied reasonably, easing Delin’s anger a trifle. “I’m sure if he did he would have spoken to you, but it’s still a bit soon to tell him such things. He has no real need to know it yet and it’s safer for you this way, but if it makes you feel better we can always tell him this afternoon…” Delin you should be very very suspicious right now. quote:“I mean, why is he insisting that we have to earn his support?” Bron asked. “It isn’t as if he has anyone else to support, so why is he forcing us to compete every day? If he loses us, he’ll be left with nothing.” Green uses "soothe" in Spirit magic user POVs to refer to active use of their talent on people. Her prose is so unclear that I can't tell if this means Delin can feel Kambil using his talent or whether Delin just thinks Kambil is soothing him with mere words. quote:“The only thing I can think of is that the commoners realized the truth of the old saying about there being safety in numbers. If they’d been the ones to survive alone against four noble Blendings, their position would have been quite impossible. This way they have a good deal of company—” What? How are these brackets set up? It got explained in an earlier chapter as an orchestrated affair but I thought it was a pretty simple knock out tournament. In which case, it doesn't really matter who your competition is, you still need to win the same number of rounds? And since Green's magic system doesn't have any finesse involved, it's not like skill comes into play, in which case it doesn't matter who you face, the strongest team will come out on top anyway. quote:“That’s why we have to make sure that it isn’t a different group,” Kambil returned, still sounding calm and assured. “It’s the one point we’ll have to insist on when Advisor Zolind Maylock comes to speak with us later this afternoon. Arranging it should be no trouble at all for him, and all we have to say is that we researched that group along with our original one. Pointing out that they have the most weak spots of all the commoners will be nothing but the truth, so hopefully the Advisor won’t become suspicious.” You guys got the test results for all the common Blendings. And your extra "research" consisted of one botched conversation by Kambil. quote:“And if he does become difficult, we’ll simply have to offer to give up our place,” Selendi said so calmly that Delin was startled. “We’ll be risking our lives out there, and if he refuses to give us that one bit of help, he can go out and face those peasants himself. It won’t matter to us if we die at the hands of the peasants, or are executed by our own people. Dead is dead no matter how it happens.” Delin you should be very very very suspicious. quote:“That’s a very good point,” Kambil agreed, smiling at her where she stood beside Homin. “It sounds like something Delin would want us to keep in mind, but there’s another point to go with it. The Advisor is extremely upset, and it won’t take much to make him turn his back on us and look for another solution to his problem. For that reason he’ll have to be handled very carefully, so I think Delin should do it.” Look! Kindergarten level reverse psychology! quote:“No,” Delin said at once, then forced a smile when the others all looked at him. “What I mean to say is, a good leader knows his limitations. If the Advisor is in that delicate a frame of mind, the one to deal with him should be someone able to reach his reactions. That means you, Kambil, so I’m giving the assignment to you to take care of.” I miss when Delin was a character with hints of complexity. Summary: Day 19 Our commoner protagonists and noble antagonists alike get stuck in a traffic jam en route to the amphitheatre that will be a Significant Location on par with the Palace and is not described anywhere as effectively as the palace was (which, if you've forgotten, was "big" and had a "verandah"). The Advisors switch around the matches as a last minute "favor" to Delin and co, for the dumb reason of not wanting Delin to die because they want to make an example of him for the various murders. Our protagonists spend the whole chapter waiting around and changing into their competitions robes and underwear and not eating the contaminated food. Lord Simin shows up and commands them to throw the match. Once the noble leaves, our protagonists spend the rest of their waiting time being general, arrogant know-it-alls who are gleefully crowing about their victory and making plans on how they are going to reform the Empire, because they are the smartest and bestest people ever and Lord Simin is a clueless idiot who has no idea that they have broken free from their Puredan conditioning. Our Heroes walk out into the arena and annihilate their opponents, and so do three other common Blendings; only one noble Blending (guess who?) wins their match. Kambil and co receive unofficial official backing from the Advisors due to being the only noble Blending remaining. High Lord Advisor Zolind suspects them of being the ones who caused Adriari's Blending's deaths and gives High Lord Embisson an ultimatum: find proof of Kambil and co's crimes, or else. Regardless of Embission's results, Zolind has zero intention of Seating Kambil and co: he's already planning their disappearance and replacement. Despite Eltrina's terrible attempts to assert authority by simply yelling at people to do as she says, none of the common Blendings are dumb enough to agree to be gigantic sitting targets by staying overnight in the ampitheatre. Meanwhile Kambil and his puppets spend an entire meeting humoring Delin's delusions of being in charge. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 115 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 52 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 34 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 96 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 58 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 65 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 34 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 19 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: I don't like this chapter but I don't hate it either? It feels like an absolute nothing chapter, to be honest. The victory has not been earned. The villains have not had any real comeuppance other than people not listening to them? Nothing interesting has been done with the magic. At this point, I'm more interested in the struggle for dominance between Kambil and Delin, simply because there's ACTUAL CONFLICT as opposed to the worthy "oh Tamrissa you're so wonderful" "no you guys are wonderful" "no you" "oh stop" "let's just all agree we're ALL wonderful" stuff going on with the protagonists. Just in case you were wondering how much is left of Book 3, there are still three more chapters to go: two of actual plot and one that's functionally an epilogue. All of them suck, but at least Green learned her lesson and ended the book in the right place this time.
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quote:CHAPTER FORTY-SEVEN I don't understand any number of things about this setup: 1. How does anybody buy that line? 2. Why you wouldn't be drawing lots in front of a live audience at the conclusion of the previous battle? 3. Even if you weren't competing, why would you stay cooped up at your residence instead of going out to watch the battles? 4. Even if you were forbidden to attend, why wouldn't you TRY to go and watch the battles? quote:“I’ve decided I don’t trust the ‘luck’ that left us for last,” Jovvi said, sounding no better than I had. “Those people are up to something, and have been for the last two days at least.” You guys literally have no friends. You're not even friends with each other, not really. You've never even MET anyone from these other groups, except for Pagin and you guys did your best to exclude him from everything. quote:“The last two groups may still be alive, but Warla said they were badly hurt when they were carried off the sand. We shouldn’t have let them keep us from attending the competitions as spectators.” This is the dumbest reason ever. Mainly because Green has failed to establish anything around the working range of a Blending and who can/can't detect interference from a Blending. Also also there would have been a perfectly fine way of stopping interference...like say a light dosage of hilsom powder. quote:“We could hardly point out that our words are better than theirs, but it might have been amusing to try,” Rion put in, but still sounding as far from amused as the rest of us. “What takes my attention the most is Warla’s report that the competitions we missed took longer than the ones on the first day. After our first experience we felt completely undrained, but today won’t be the same.” If only we had seen any of this practicing! Or any of the other competitions so we have a benchmark for what this confrontation is gonna look like! quote:“But you aren’t really, you know,” Naran put in, her voice filled with its usual warmth and support. “You’re all doing wonderfully well, and I happen to know that you’ll win. Those people you’ll be facing simply won’t be able to match you.” Spoilers for book 5: I hate this so much. I'm pretty sure Green thought this was clever; a way to disguise Naran's Sight magic as just pure warmth and support, etc etc etc but I hate this decision so much. It undermines Naran as a character because she's so flat and it undermines the tension in the main plot. quote:“It’s nice that one of us has a positive outlook,” Lorand said with a smile the rest of us couldn’t help echoing. Naran had turned out to be a really nice person, and Rion couldn’t possibly have found anyone who fit into our group better. It didn’t even bother her that she couldn’t Blend with us, which wouldn’t have been true of most other people. FORESHADOWING. quote:“Well, I happen to like bein’ positive, so I’m goin’ to believe Naran,” Vallant announced to us as he looked around. “Here’s to victory, and all it will mean to us.” These character motivations are all over the place. quote:It was nice that Jovvi had made it possible for Naran, our resident ghost, to join us on a regular basis, as her raised cup made the wish unanimous. We all drank to it then, and the silliness even made me feel better. I don't know what this is doing here. We already know that Naran is absolutely certain of their victory and also how lovey dovey these two are. quote:We’d made it a practice not to have Naran walking around the house when we weren’t there, as the commands Jovvi had given the servants not to see her might not have held if she weren’t hidden in a crowd, so to speak. Spoilers for Book 6: Jovvi will actually expand on this trick! And then they pretty much...never use it again. quote:“Getting there and then coming home again will probably take longer than the competition itself,” I commented after making myself finish what had actually been a rather light breakfast. ...you guys were literally just hyping up what a difficult, strenuous, drawn-out battle this is likely to be. I know this is supposed to be a commentary on the road traffic and the coach ride but I JUST DON'T CARE RIGHT NOW so I do not give Tamrissa the benefit of the doubt here. quote:“It would be nice if someone thought of a faster, more comfortable way to travel.” RANDOM CLUNKY FORESHADOWING. quote:and as if the entire topic created a magic of its own, a servant appeared to tell us that our coaches had arrived. We glanced at each other but didn’t hesitate, and a few short moments later we were on our way. What? There's guardsmen everywhere but they're just happy to allow for entire tent cities to spring up and clog the roads? quote:Jovvi and I didn’t speak much during the trip, and I suspected that the men were just as silent. Even touching the power hadn’t done much in the way of settling my nerves, and I would have enjoyed screaming out loud and breaking things just to relieve the tension. Actually, what I most wanted to do was burn things, but that had to be saved for the competition. quote:When we reached the amphitheater we were escorted inside again, this time through triple or more the number of people. Their cheering and words of support would have meant more if we weren’t their last hope of taking the Throne away from the nobles, but it still felt good to have them there. It was absolutely not clear from the poorly worded previous discussion of Warla's reports that they are facing the only remaining nobles. Though I don't think this bothers anyone because this is the thing everybody expects. quote:Once we passed through the door into that very large gathering area, the only one there for us was our former guide, the young lord Ophin Ruhl. Character assassination of Eltrina continues. This is NOT the same character as the one we originally met back in Book 1. quote:“All our groups refusin’ to stay here must have been the final nail in her coffin,” Vallant commented with barely hidden satisfaction. “What a shame that it had to happen to such a lovely person.” We will discover what happened to Eltrina in Book 4. It's pretty awful. quote:“What’s this?” Lorand said, looking down at the table he’d stopped near. “Five envelopes, one addressed to each of us. Do they contain the sincere good wishes of the government, I wonder?” How, exactly, would a friend get them into these apartments in the amphitheatre where all access is being controlled by the testing authority? quote:“You’re thinking about that Lord Carmad,” Jovvi said with a slow nod that suggested the same thing had occurred to her. “He never did come back, and he doesn’t seem to have visited any of the other groups. I’d ask how he could have managed to leave letters for us here, but that’s like asking how he found out the proper way to start a Blending.” Hanging a lampshade on this doesn't make it any better, namely because Green will never address this in this book, nor the next two in this first series. Not until Book 8, in fact and the reveal is super lame. quote:“So what do we do?” Vallant asked, looking down at the envelopes as though they were living beings. “If we leave them untouched, we could be leavin’ valuable hints and help behind. If we open them, we could be helpin’ our opponents instead of ourselves.” Everything about how Green is setting this up makes me want to eyeroll so hard. Oh hell, why not? quote:The rest of us exchanged glances over that, but it wasn’t possible to argue with the idea. It gave us the only practical solution, and Rion knew it. He therefore reached for the envelope with his name on it, opened it and removed the sheet of paper, then began to read. There seemed to be quite a lot of writing, but after a moment or two he closed his eyes and let the sheet fall to the floor. I really hate how that last sentence is written. It's just so...limp. quote:Vallant, Lorand, and I were in the midst of trying to comfort Rion when Jovvi made a sound of deep scorn. Isn't it convenient that Rion was the one who opened the letter? Let's see how these perfect protagonists comfort their Blendingmate, keeping in mind that Blending is the most magical and intimate relationship you could ever possibly have with another human being. quote:“And that’s bothering you?” I said to Rion once Jovvi had finished speaking. “I find that really hard to believe since that’s the best news you could have gotten.” Uh. Seriously? You guys literally just told Rion he was wrong to feel the way he felt. Without any empathy whatsoever for the emotions he was trying to work through. And—without Jovvi so much as brushing him with her talent—he just goes, oh okay, I guess you're right, maybe I'll get to meet my dad someday. quote:It was marvelous to see Rion pulling out of the pit our enemies had dug for him, and the rest of us made sure to stay away from the other envelopes. As Jovvi had said, we could stand not knowing what they were there to tell us. That's it. Two, short, paragraphs and it's like nothing ever happened. quote:We sat around talking for a short while after that, until two servants came to deliver our robes and sandals. The servants were enthusiastic but cautious as they wished us good luck in whispers but with big grins. Jovvi had already told us that we weren’t being eavesdropped on, but we didn’t mention that to the servants. They were happier to think they were getting away with something, and I couldn’t blame them for that. You are probably wondering why we've had these filler paragraphs. They are Important. quote:I couldn’t wait for everything to begin so that it would be on its way to being over, but Ophin hesitated before leading the way back out into the corridor. STOP WRITING LIKE THIS. Also if the testing authority REALLY wanted those letters read, they probably should have picked a better way to deliver the message. If the antagonists weren't so dumb, the protagonists wouldn't be able to cheerily stroll through every obstacle obliviously. quote:and when he finally gave in to the inevitable he wasn’t a happy man. His movements were brusque and furious as he led us toward the gathering area, but none of us paid him any attention. We were all of us ready, and if we didn’t win this final competition, it would certainly not be our fault. SUPER CLUMSY FORESHADOWING. Summary: Day 22 Tamrissa and co finally get called to compete in the last day of the competitions. Naran is super sure they're definitely going to win. Upon their arrival at the amphitheatre, they are escorted to wait around again, in an apartment with a bunch of anonymous letters addressed to them personally. Rion volunteers as tribute and opens his letter to discover that his father is not a dead noble, but was in fact his mother's gardener who was fired as soon as she conceived Rion and so is probably still alive and out there, somewhere. Rion is shattered by the revelation, but does a complete 180 when the rest of Our Heroes point out how this is actually the Best News Ever because now he's really a REAL PERSON and not a useless noble. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 115 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 53 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 34 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 96 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 58 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 66 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 35 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 20 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: This whole convoluted, contrived chapter exists to info dump two things: 1) Rion's parentage (which spoilers for the sequel trilogy is still a lie, because Hallina Mardimill is not actually his birth mother either) and 2) the robes. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate what a filler chapter it is. Instead of seeing the build up to the final confrontation with Kambil and Delin's Blending, we just get this vague hyping up about the confrontation via this third hand discussion of a second hand report from Warla who probably didn't get several days off in a row to go watch the competitions. It could have been fixed so easily if Green had just shown us proper combat challenges instead of the stupid time trials that happened in the last book. Or if the ball at the palace had some more substance to it. Or if her protagonists had spent some time sneaking around, trying to discover the command phrase for themselves, instead of waiting for Delin to drop the information into their laps. At every opportunity for interesting conflict with the antagonists, Green backs away from it in favor of interpersonal drama that doesn't even matter to the main plot between her protagonists. I normally quite enjoy when there's conflict between protagonists that is an obstacle to them resolving the greater conflict, but this doesn't ever get anywhere near that level. WHY.
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Love how no one thought to have someone else read the note with their name on it, like just having Jovvi read Rion’s to begin with. But hey, at least it’s in character not to think of anything clever! The contrivances continue to be just astounding. Yeah we think these people are conspiring against us, but they definitely told the truth about the names drawn by lots…
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The penultimate chapter; the magical showdown we've all been waiting for. Are you guys ready!??!?!quote:CHAPTER FORTY-EIGHT I have probably spent more time than anyone reading this thread contemplating Green's magic system and I'm still not really sure what this means. The only thing I can come up with is that Delin and co got so tired to the point where they're either reduced to the output level of a Low talent and/or they couldn't summon a final attack to kill off their opponents because they collapsed from exhaustion...and then what? I guess the victor is determined by the lesser wounded group? But what if one of the groups lost one of its members? Is that an automatic loss since you need five people? Not that we even know what a Low talent can really do and whether they are capable of killing someone with talent alone. Like, what is the difference between a Low and a High Fire talent? Is it in the sheer quantity of fire they can summon? The level of control they have over the fire? The heat/intensity of the flames? We don't know! quote:The Advisory representative assigned to them had been pleased about that, but Delin wasn’t able to muster the same pleasure… Because they really need some more mind slaves to go invade two other nations at the same time! Voluntarily fighting a war on two fronts. Seriously. quote:Now they stood by the as-yet-unopened doors to the arena floor, waiting for the last group of peasants to join them. The Advisory man had insisted that they come to the peasants’ side rather than having the peasants come to them, and there had been no arguing with him. It was all part of Advisor Zolind’s plan, they’d been told, which meant the orders weren’t to be argued with. Delin felt the urge to do more than argue, So do it! What is Zolind really gonna be able to do to you guys anyway? quote:considering who these last peasants were. But at least they’d been subjected to the disabling bits of information and half threats Delin had himself intended to use… In case you guys were wondering what was in the other letters. Interesting is a real stretch. These letters are not creative or subtle in the least. quote:Not quite the way Delin would have handled it, but certainly effective nonetheless. The lowborn fools would be fortunate if they even managed to Blend, not to speak of doing anything effective. They would— https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NLnGJnGBcc quote:“Don’t they have anything of natural human curiosity?” Remember that Zolind Maylock is supposed to be the single most powerful man in the Empire. quote:“Well, done is done,” Bron said with a sigh. “They haven’t read the letters, so we can’t expect them to be badly out of balance. We’ll simply have to win over them without that.” How, exactly, is Zolind going to do that? YOU'RE A FREAKING BLENDING. quote:“He’ll find some way to keep the commoners from being Seated, but we won’t be around to find out what he does. Is that what you want?” USE MAGIC. quote:“We’ll do it in the way we were meant to, by facing them and bringing them to defeat,” Kambil said, briefly putting a hand to Delin’s shoulder. “Since that’s our only option, it’s the one we’ll take. Are you with us?” Look at this great, rousing, pre-battle speech from Kambil. A guy whose magical talent is to literally manipulate emotions. quote:Delin could do nothing other than nod, although he would have most preferred to scream out what fools they all were. They refused to see that they were about to lose everything, refused to try to find a way out of that mess… Character assassination of Delin continues. quote:A stir in the crowds heralded the arrival of the peasants who, just like their betters, already wore their robe hoods up. It was difficult to pick out individuals like that, with faces shrouded in shadow. Delin had thought he might rattle Mardimil at least by speaking what the man hadn’t read, but he couldn’t pick out the fool from the other two men. Not to mention that the two groups were being kept separated from one another… So...yell? Like...what's anyone gonna do? Also I am sad that Green insists on using this convoluted set-up to eliminate pre-fight verbal sparring. I love verbal sparring when well done, it's lots of fun to read. quote:And then the outer doors were being slid open, letting in the bright sunlight and the muted roar of the crowd what? quote:—less muted once they noticed the doors being opened. double what? quote:It was nearly time when they would find out who their next Seated Blending would be, and their level of excitement was so high that Delin could feel it in the air like something tangible. But most of that excitement was on behalf of the peasants he and the others would face. If Zolind had really expected the masses to become more and more fond of Delin’s group as the days and competitions went by, that was another part of the fool’s plan which hadn’t worked. I would have liked an alternate storyline in which there was also a political campaigning aspect to the tournament and you had to win over the masses, because they could upvote/downvote literal advantages for you in the arena. That would have been cool. Sanderson had something like this in the backdrop for Perfect State, which was a fun novella to read. quote:Delin joined the others in following their official guide out onto the sands, but he felt as though he were moving through a dream. The waves of screaming delight and applause washed over him, threatening to knock him down, making him believe that all the encouragement and support were for him. Sand began to enter his sandals the way it usually did, but this time he ignored it. All those people were waiting for him to fulfill their dreams, and he couldn’t bring himself to disappoint them. It is really hard to tell which part of Delin's narration is his own delusions and which part is Kambil's influence. quote:The guide took them to the designated place in the sand and then left them, just as the other group was left thirty feet away. The sun beat down on them mercilessly, hating the fact that they were all protected by white robes and hoods. why are we suddenly personifying the sun now? quote:The others of his group moved into position in front of him, preserving the myth that it wasn’t possible to Blend otherwise. What the fools around them didn’t know couldn’t be used against them… Here's another alternate storyline: what if ALL the Blendings actually cooperated together to overthrow the Advisors from within the competition? That would have been fun too! quote:And then the giant torches set on two sides of the amphitheater burst into flame, and Delin was swept up and devoured by the entity the five of them Blended into. His last thought was what a relief it was to be devoured so, and then the entity looked about itself. Real smooth transition, Green. quote:Just as it had expected, another entity waited to challenge it the way the previous ones had. ................ So remember way back when, when there was that brief mention of shields in passing that I was really annoyed about? This is why. quote:And then a counterattack came, one which was so strong that the entity was nearly overwhelmed completely. I am overwhelmed by how vague and banal this sentence is. quote:Only by the expenditure of total effort was the entity able to defend itself, and even so, some of the fleshly forms of its components staggered. The truth was clear and as unavoidable as the attack: the enemy was far stronger than the entity, and the next attack would finish the matter. This is case in point of why Green's authorial choice to use detached entity POVs suck. She doesn't do anything interesting with them, and because this is the Blendingverse, every single climatic point from hereon involves Blending so this is all the emotional impact that we're gonna get. Who am I kidding, it's not like the individual POVs are any better. quote:Despair wasn’t something the entity was truly able to feel, but echoes of the emotion came from one part of it. Defeat was merely something to be accepted if it came—but then the entity’s attention was taken by an oddity. Without the entity making an effort of any sort, the enemy entity suddenly disappeared as its five separate components collapsed to the sand. And the components lay there unmoving … how odd, how very odd… Three guesses as to what happened! quote:And then it was Delin back again, aware of his individuality and completely stunned. Their opponents were down, apparently unconscious… How could that possibly have happened? Yep. This moment is the entire reason the previous chapter exists. And it is so dumb. WHO THE HELL DOESN'T NOTICE THAT THEIR FREAKING UNDERWEAR IS COVERED WITH A POWDER?!?!??!?!!??! I don't care how fine the powder is, you're gonna notice it! And if it's not talcum powder fine, then you're sure as hell gonna feel it. quote:“Why weren’t the rest of us told about that?” Delin demanded as the others chuckled their appreciation. “I was nearly beside myself, and might even have refused to compete!” Write this story instead. quote:“There was no real danger of that, and we had to make our act look good,” Kambil said soothingly despite the insanity now being produced by the crowds. “If we’d all strutted out here without a care in the world, the commoner officials would have known that something … extralegal was planned. Spoilers for the next book Meerk and his buddies aren't very smart. quote:But this isn’t the place to discuss it. Let’s accept everyone’s congratulations, and then go home.” OMFG you have a choice. Green just doesn't want you to go there because it would derail her outline. quote:That certainly wasn’t the place for discussions, but once they reached some quiet spot… See this makes you think there's gonna be a one-on-one Delin/Kambil magical battle in the following scene. Not-spoilers: there won't be, because Green. quote:* * * quote:but Delin was still too angry to really appreciate it. And that was another unanswered question: why were they being returned to their residence rather than taken to the palace? Yeah, I'll give Delin that. This is a part of the plot that makes no sense. It's a death match to determine the new rulers of the Empire! The Seating ceremony ought to be held immediately after the final battle and then the victors get to go to the palace. quote:When they finally did reach the residence, Delin had long since decided how it would be best to handle things. For that reason he made sure to stroll into the sitting room first while the others stood in the front hall sharing the excitement and delight they hadn’t been able to show earlier. While they made fools of themselves he took out the vial he’d hidden behind the cushions of a couch, poured himself a cup of tea from the service, then emptied the vial into the rest of the tea. Sometimes I'm convinced that the whole tea gag exists so Green can let characters without Spirit magic Puredan their way through their problems. quote:He had taken a chair and was sipping from his cup when the others stormed in, all of them acting like small children after successfully completing a prank. Delin added his own smile as he watched them all take tea, and when the last of them turned away from the service, he raised his cup high. Spoilers for the rest of this scene Uh, Delin? This is not how Puredan works. If you had legit Puredan, they all would have frozen the moment they drank. quote:“For your information, you’ve all just swallowed a good dose of Puredan,” he announced amiably. “If the thought disturbs you, it shouldn’t. The leader of a group is entitled to know everything, and if he can’t get his answers one way, he has to get them another.” INCOMING INFODUMP! quote:“Of course you’re glad,” Delin countered, letting some of his fury show through. “You have no choice but to be glad. Now we can start with why I wasn’t told about what Zolind actually planned to do. He may not know I’m leader here, but you certainly do.” Observers that we have not seen on the page, ever, because we have not seen these guys do anything in an official capacity besides their private masteries or training sessions, which none of the observers were privy to. quote:“Are you insane?” Delin demanded in complete outrage. “I don’t brag about the things I do, and I’ve learned to be humble when humility is called for. You’re just making excuses, so I’ll give you a different question. Why are we here instead of at the palace? There are certain plans I mean to move ahead on at once, even before we’re Seated.” So the idea of having Delin discover Puredan is a thing, but not understanding how it's supposed to work and being taken in by fake Puredan and having his plans fail—that's a legitimately good idea. Of course, as usual, the execution is piss poor. quote:“Not many people can be drugged with plain water,” Kambil commented with a smile after taking another sip of his tea. “And that’s all you added to the service, plain water. The Puredan you paid quite a lot of gold for was never really Puredan, I made sure of that. Letting you have it would have been like putting a weapon into the hands of a small child.” Here, have a villain quote:“Which, unfortunately, it wasn’t,” Kambil said, taking up the narrative again. “There’s a definite … extra something … which comes from Earth magic in a Blending, but it doesn’t appear if the Earth magic user is being controlled. You might even call it a hidden reserve of emergency strength, but whatever it is it simply wasn’t there when I took full control of you. If only we had ever seen any Blendings in action enough to actually discern this for ourselves! quote:I had to leave you mostly uncontrolled, then, but we did without the extra anyway. Your terror was so thick that it affected the Blending entity, so you almost caused us to lose all by yourself.” I'm with Delin here. There was nothing to indicate their looming defeat was due to anything other than being weaker in talent vs the protagonists. quote:“I don’t get terrified and I certainly don’t lose, but you people do make me sick! It isn’t me he’s controlling but the rest of you! I know you can’t see yourselves from the outside, but you’re not the same people you were!” No, Green will never explore this in further depth. quote:“But I do actually regret something, even if the regret is faint,” Homin said, taking his turn again. “It would have been marvelous to be able to show the new me to that offensive Elfini, but your sickness made that impossible, Delin. If not for you, she wouldn’t have had to die.” quote:“What I am is sick and tired of cleaning up after your messes,” Kambil said from somewhere, unbelievably sounding annoyed. “I didn’t trust you any farther than Selendi could throw you, so I followed you when you so generously agreed to help Homin. You were actually fool enough to go in and abuse that woman, after which you fainted as usual. If I hadn’t been there, she would have summoned the guard and had you locked up and the key thrown away.” So much for those stakes earlier in the books. quote:“So I had to make her forget about what had happened,” Kambil continued. “You were dreaming happy dreams as usual, but she was straining to recover what I’d forced her to forget. I could tell she’d recover the memories unless I stayed there and kept a constant eye on her, and that was completely impractical. So I gave you something else to dream about, and went back that night and killed her myself. Just in time, I might add, as she was close to remembering what had happened. That was the real reason she beat Homin’s father so badly. The incident was beginning to come back, but she still felt confused about the identity of her attacker. Confused enough to think it might have been the man under her whip.” Spirit magic: the canon reason Green can retcon anything and pretend all this complex plotting was happening the whole time in the background! quote:“But you couldn’t let well-enough be,” Bron said, sounding like a disapproving adult speaking to a child. “Your hatred of Rigos was so intense that you had to keep punishing him for being a better man than you despite his lack of talent. Kambil was busy working with us and the servants at the time, and we all thought you were safely off with one of your bored older women. They pass you from one to the other as a group joke, and all the time you believed it was your charm that got you into their beds.” No, the official investigators don't know anything about this mental trail and it is never explained why (even though at least one of them is a High talent in Spirit magic). Also this concept of a mental trail will never come up again in the books. quote:so by the time we caught up with you you’d just finished telling Ollon Kapmar that you’d killed his sister. The man’s obsession was much too strong for me to work through, so he had to die as well. This time I was able to give you the entire scene, because I disguised it as daydreaming. I had you do everything necessary in the way of removing our traces and then kept you from going back into the room, but it was all wasted effort.” I don't understand why Kambil can't just control Zolind and make him Seat them too. quote:“His continuing to live, Kambil means,” Selendi said with a chuckle. “In point of fact we’ve decided not to let any of the Advisors live, and you’ll do your part to help us end them. We won’t need that something extra to accomplish their ends, so from now on you’ll be under complete control. You’ll even be under control when we destroy the present Blending. We’ve already checked, and their strongest member is no stronger than a good Middle.” Green just revealing all of her poor plotting and gaping plot holes left and right because HOW HAS NOBODY ELSE CHECKED THIS BEFORE AND BLOWN THE SECRET WIDE OPEN?!??!?! quote:“But first we wanted you to know how much trouble you’ve caused us,” Kambil said, for the first time with vindictive satisfaction in his voice. “Your insanity runs much too deep for me to be able to do anything about it, even with Grammi’s help. Oh, that’s right, you don’t know that my grandmother has been helping me. She loves me even more than I love her, and she’d never let anything terrible happen to me. The fact that she’s also a High in Spirit magic has all but doubled my effectiveness.” quote:“Which he needed when he had you under partial control,” Homin said negligently. “We had to give the commoners the keying phrase to release them from the control of others, but you almost refused to send it. Kambil did some very thorough research when he was supposed to be napping all those times, and he discovered that our peers in the other Blendings were all incompetent fools. They were also not nearly as strong as we are, so if the commoners were freed they would eliminate our peers for us—leaving us as the only ones the Advisors could support in order to save everyone’s face. Kambil also found out that that one Blending would not hesitate to pass on what they learned, so they had to be the ones to be given the information—which you regretted sending even while you were doing it. You just have no imagination or the courage to take a chance, Delin.” quote:“And now that we’ve had the pleasure of telling you the truth, you’ll be put under Kambil’s complete control,” Bron said with the same smile that Homin and Selendi showed. “You’ll no longer have to be coddled, and you’ll do exactly as you’re told. You certainly won’t like it, but you also won’t be able to do anything about it. Goodbye, Delin.” Summary: Day 22 Tamrissa and co finally get called to compete in the last day of the competitions. Naran is super sure they're definitely going to win. Upon their arrival at the amphitheatre, they are escorted to wait around again, in an apartment with a bunch of anonymous letters addressed to them personally. Rion volunteers as tribute and opens his letter to discover that his father is not a dead noble, but was in fact his mother's gardener who was fired as soon as she conceived Rion and so is probably still alive and out there, somewhere. Rion is shattered by the revelation, but does a complete 180 when the rest of Our Heroes point out how this is actually the Best News Ever because now he's really a REAL PERSON and not a useless noble. Delin has a mini freak out because the antagonists discover that the letters were not read. They Blend and discover that Tamrissa and co are WAY stronger and also know how to shield, which conveniently has only been mentioned like once in the narrative to date and not an ability that the protagonists have demonstrated before. Delin and co are about to lose when the protagonists all collapse because Zolind had people hide hilsom powder in their regulation testing authority issued underwear...and all it took to trigger that powder was to have some Air talents shake their clothes. Delin is super confused and pissed off at Kambil taking charge so he tries to drug his Blendingmates with Puredan. Except it turns out to be just water and Kambil (and his mind slaves, Homin, Selendi and Bron) conveniently gives us a villain monologue that retcons everything we've seen in the antagonist storyline and reads like Green's revision notes from her editor of how she could make the book not boring. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre MEALS ON-SCREEN: 31 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 118 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 54 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 34 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 96 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 59 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 67 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 35 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 21 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: I'm serious about everything in Kambil's monologue being Green's revision notes. All that stuff should have been ON THE PAGE AS IT HAPPENED OMG WHY.
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# ? Apr 9, 2022 02:09 |
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It's like a fanfic author who decided they were tired of a story before finishing and just posted their outline with dialogue tags.
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 05:26 |
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quote:CHAPTER FORTY-NINE Hilsom powder sucks. quote:“Look, he’s tryin’ t’wake up!” someone said, sounding alarmed. “He ain’t ’sposta try t’ wake up!” If any other author wrote this, it would have been with the intention to signal that there is Something Special about Lorand, albeit in a pretty hamfisted way. Spoilers for the next book: Green will never address this, ever, so who knows? My money is on her needing a way to end the book with her protagonists but being unable to find a way to logically do so since they're all unconscious so she just has them partially wake up to get clumsy dialogue exposition quote:“So what if he does?” another voice countered, male like the first voice. I'm starting to get into line edits for my novel. There are SO MANY WAYS you can describe voices. But all we ever get from Green is "male" or "female". quote:“They got him so doped up that he won’t even know what day it is. When you feed him later, you’ll probably have to keep shaking him to remind him what he’s about. But you better not let him start wasting away, or they’ll skin you alive.” Dun dun DUN! Wow, what a twist! Our Heroes, who are the Strongest Magical Talents Ever, might face consequences and have to do things using their brains instead of blithely blasting through every obstacle with raw strength. Spoilers for the next book: there is no damage. They're all perfectly fine and will continue to blast their way through problems blithely with raw strength quote:“Why do you insist on worrying about things that are none of your business?” the second voice asked, sounding angrily impatient. These dialogue tags. They're killing me. If you've got good characterization, you should be able to write a conversation entirely without dialogue tags and it should still be abundantly clear to a reader who is speaking what lines. Don't get me wrong, this is hard to do. But Green isn't even trying here. quote:“Even if he’s left with no more than Middle talent, they’ll still want to find that out for themselves. New info about the magic system that has never appeared before! Spoilers: another fakeout. We will never see anybody ever partially damage their talent. It's basically all or nothing. quote:They’ll be able to use him even like that, but if his talent level remains intact, he’ll be much more valuable. They’ll dose him with Puredan to make him docile, and then they’ll use him until they burn him out. You, personally, have nothing to fear, because they’ll transport him to where the army is before they let him come back to himself. It took 3 books before that throwaway mention in Book 1 about the army becomes relevant because NOBODY did any intrigue because they were too busy with their relationship drama. quote:Are you satisfied now?” Green's vague prose does not lend itself to writing disorientation. If anything, it makes it worse. quote:All he knew was that someone was going to try to burn out his mind. Uh. Weirdly sexist. quote:A woman. Hadn’t there been a woman in his life somewhere? The memory of her hid just out of reach, teasing him with hints and suggestions. Had she been like that, a woman who teased? He’d always wanted to meet a woman who would tease him lovingly and gently… Oh FFS. It's because Green wanted some sort of transition to insert a vague thought about Jovvi, because Lorand and Jovvi are obvious in True Love. It's the worst transition. quote:Gently. That word didn’t fit anywhere in his world. He’d tried gently to open his eyes, but they’d refused to work. He’d wanted his head to pound more gently, but he couldn’t make it happen. Nothing was working right… Well that was pointless and took way more words than it needed (which is to say...infinite, because this, imo is the wrong POV to use). Now get ready to read the same thing FOUR MORE TIMES. quote:* * * Gross. quote:Jovvi could almost understand the words being spoken to her, but trying harder was out of the question. Even lying wherever she lay was almost too much of an effort, so anything beyond that … except for taking a deeper breath… Double gross. quote:To look at you, one might easily consider him mad, but then one would have to pause in thought. If a man of his strength doesn’t even care to dally with you for a short while, you must be dangerous indeed. I am a man possessed of sufficient courage for all things, yet my sense of discretion usually surpasses the other. They’ll make good use of your talents—whatever they may now be—in the place where you’re awaited, and I’ll find a less adventurous—and adventuresome—woman to do my own dallying with. Rest now, for when you get where they mean to send you, there will be no rest short of death—or burnout, whichever comes first.” Given the track record of where things have gone in this series so far (and also where things will go in subsequent books), I'm pretty surprise that this guy hasn't already taken his pants off to take advantage of Jovvi while she's incapacitated. quote:Jovvi thought she heard the word “burnout,” and agitation began to build inside her. It's hard to find a more detached way of expressing panic that's building up despite Jovvi's drugged state. quote:That word … it meant something beyond the ordinary, beyond what most words mean. She had to … do something she hadn’t gotten around to … had to remember something specific … find someone important… quote:Opening her eyes proved to be impossible, as was any sort of movement. And that hand, smoothing her hair … it made her want to rest for a while, to sleep until the sea rolled out and she wasn’t so heavy any longer … heavy … sleep… quote:* * * What I appreciate most about the Rion variants is that at least they're somewhat different! quote:Rion fought to open his eyes, but at first his vision was too blurred to make anything out. Blinking helped to solve the problem to some extent, but it was still necessary to focus. He finally did so, using the face which swam before him as an anchor, and once success was his he immediately wished he’d failed. Also because he's the only one with a distinctive personality. quote:“Of course we can’t,” she continued with a smile and a pat on his cheek, just as though he’d agreed with her. “Now that you’re back beside me again, we won’t allow anything into our lives that isn’t perfect. No, don’t try to speak, you won’t be able to do that for some time yet. I’m going to keep you drugged for a bit, you see, to make sure you aren’t able to keep yourself from being permanently damaged.” Third time lucky, Green! This sucks comparatively less to your previous attempts. Maybe it's because you've got two characters with an established history and motivations that conflict with each other, as opposed to random generic unseen henchmen doing their job? Just a thought. quote:“Don’t you worry about that now, darling,” Mother went on, chatting happily. “The physician tells me that you’re probably permanently damaged anyway, but there’s a chance the damage can be minimized if you’re able to work against it. But we don’t want it minimized, not when that might let you imagine you can escape me again. You can’t, you know, because you’re mine and always will be. But please don’t think you’ll be given an allowance again, I’d hate for you to be disappointed. From now on Mother will control everything, and you’ll be her loving, devoted, talentless boy.” And now I actually feel bad for Rion. quote:* * * As always, Tamrissa's reactions are weirdly calibrated. quote:“I said, lovely child, can you hear me?” a man’s voice came, the words answering my previous question. The thud of my heart grew even louder as I recognized the voice. It belonged to a man whose name I didn’t even know, but the vague, unformed memory of his intentions was very unsettling. Hi Lanir. quote:“Your muscles have tightened a bit, so I presume you can hear every word despite your lack of verbal response,” the man went on. “That suits me well enough for the moment, as I shall speak and you need only listen. Later, of course, you’ll also be expected to obey. If you fail to do so, you’ll be made to produce a verbal response other than speaking.” Lanir is a creep. But we already knew that. He was the guy who spiked Tamrissa's tea post initial testing all the way back in Book 1 and, as you've probably deduced from Jovvi's scene, he is the Seated High in Fire. Real charmer. quote:“To begin with, I should explain that the pain I’m told you probably feel is the result of your having been damaged,” he said. “It’s highly unlikely that you’ll ever be what you once were, but please don’t feel relief just yet. My interest in you remains as high as it was, for you’re still perfectly able to serve my purpose.” Lanir is awful and a way more interesting and nuanced antagonist than Odrin Hallasser. quote:“Now, I mean to keep you quietly sedated for a time,” he said, “but not for too long a time. I find I’m truly eager to begin with you, and as soon as the Puredan is brought to me I’ll have you drink it. After that you’ll no longer need to be sedated, and we’ll be able to begin.” I can't tell if that last bit is meant to be about the Blending or Vallant. Presumably both, though I still don't buy any of those relationships so I don't buy this sentiment. quote:* * * Spoilers for the next book: Hi Eltrina. This is where Green's character assassination just goes from an author mishandling her characters to making me feel like she's got something against ambitious women quote:“Stop making it sound like the end of the world,” the woman chided with a laugh. “No one will be doing anything with him until it’s time to send him on his trip, so he might as well do his waiting here. I have this perfectly lovely little box prepared for him, made out of steel so that nothing will be able to harm him. When he learns to beg properly I’ll let him out for a while, but I won’t forget to put him back again. That should satisfy your feelings of anxiety, shouldn’t it?” Continued spoilers: we have never seen Eltrina do anything this cruel. Cutting remarks, yes, but actually exploiting someone's known phobia? Nope. I get that it's supposed to show how nobles don't view commoners as fellow humans, but this is NOT how Eltrina portrayed herself in her introduction. quote:“Perhaps,” the male voice allowed grudgingly while Vallant’s insides began to twist and burn. He couldn’t quite remember why he felt like that, but it had something to do with part of what the woman had said. And his head hurt, for some reason he also couldn’t remember. What was going on here—and where in the name of chaos was ‘here’? I HATE THIS SO MUCH. quote:“Well, now you have him,” the male voice said, still sounding extremely unhappy. “Just be sure you don’t lose or damage him, or we’ll both regret it. If I’m blamed for anything, I’ll make certain that you’re right there beside me.” Remember how Vallant's a sailor? And aaaaaaaaallll the seafaring analogies that could be used here? quote:as though he were being rocked in the arms of someone who needed badly for him to be there … Well Green doesn't. quote:even though he couldn’t be there … wherever there was … sleepy lurch, back and forth, back and forth … out but not in … please, please, never in… Summary: Day 22 Tamrissa and co finally get called to compete in the last day of the competitions. Naran is super sure they're definitely going to win. Upon their arrival at the amphitheatre, they are escorted to wait around again, in an apartment with a bunch of anonymous letters addressed to them personally. Rion volunteers as tribute and opens his letter to discover that his father is not a dead noble, but was in fact his mother's gardener who was fired as soon as she conceived Rion and so is probably still alive and out there, somewhere. Rion is shattered by the revelation, but does a complete 180 when the rest of Our Heroes point out how this is actually the Best News Ever because now he's really a REAL PERSON and not a useless noble. Delin has a mini freak out because the antagonists discover that the letters were not read. They Blend and discover that Tamrissa and co are WAY stronger and also know how to shield, which conveniently has only been mentioned like once in the narrative to date and not an ability that the protagonists have demonstrated before. Delin and co are about to lose when the protagonists all collapse because Zolind had people hide hilsom powder in their regulation testing authority issued underwear...and all it took to trigger that powder was to have some Air talents shake their clothes. Delin is super confused and pissed off at Kambil taking charge so he tries to drug his Blendingmates with Puredan. Except it turns out to be just water and Kambil (and his mind slaves, Homin, Selendi and Bron) conveniently gives us a villain monologue that retcons everything we've seen in the antagonist storyline and reads like Green's revision notes from her editor of how she could make the book not boring. Lorand/Jovvi/Rion/Tamrissa/Vallant individually half-wake in a drugged state. They can't remember what happened and they can't reach the power and the people around them keep saying that they might be "damaged". Permanently. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre MEALS ON-SCREEN: 31 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 118 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 56 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 34 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 96 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 64 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 67 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 35 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 21 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: Pick ONE POV Green. A single POV done well is going to be so much more effective than many POVs done poorly. We don't need to see this from every protagonist's POV. Seeing just one POV, with them drugged and confused about their surrounds and what happened and their Blendingmates nowhere in sight would have conveyed what happened just fine—even if we didn't get a whole villain monologue from Kambil explaining everything in detail in the previous chapter. Lorand and Jovvi are bad choices, because the people around them are just lowly henchmen. Vallant isn't a good choice either, because the people around him aren't talking about anything that would reveal the whereabouts of the others, if that's the priority. That leaves us with Tamrissa, as the primary protagonist, and Rion. Of those two choices, I'd pick Rion, because: 1) he's the best worst character; 2) he actually has a distinct personality; 3) he's actually had character growth; 4) he's been taken captive by his mother and they have an established conflict...and for the first time since this conflict kicked off, we see Hallina getting the upper hand; 5) because his character growth has hinged on getting to know the other protagonists, Hallina has an incentive to delight in telling him all about what happened to the others and how he'll never see them again (and she would also be in the position to know). That would, in theory, set you up wanting to read the next book to see how Rion manages to get himself out of this mess and rescue the others. Spoilers for the next book: Rion does nothing. Tamrissa rescues herself, and then Naran, the author's favorite plothole plugging device, saves Tamrissa from having to do any work to find the others Time for a summary post but I don't think I can do it right now. Later, when my brain isn't imploding from doing structural revisions on my own book and the stupidity of this chapter. On that note: I am currently looking for a few more beta readers to read my novel. It's a new adult fantasy novel (approx. 120k words long), first in series, and it's basically fantasy Shark Tank meets The Apprentice with a murder mystery. Alpha and beta readers have been through it already and I've significantly revised it for their feedback. At this point, they've read it so many times it's difficult for them to give me objective feedback—so I need to get some input from some new readers to sense check the changes I've made. If you're still here three books into this hate-read, I'm fairly confident in promising that you'll enjoy my writing more than hers, especially if you've found my ideas on how I would rewrite Green's stuff interesting and you're curious to see whether I can back up my armchair critiques with my own writing. And if you've ever been frustrated with how Green does NOTHING interesting with Spirit magic or spoilers for Book 5 of the Blendingverse Sight magic, then you might find my take on it more intriguing. So if this sounds like your jam, please PM me (or if you don't have PMs let me know in this thread how I can reach out to you). And I will be back with a Book 3 summary post in due course.
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 08:42 |
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Book 3 Summary: (interactive version here and CSV of word frequency here) Words appearing more than 300 times: pre:One 603 Jovvi 581 Out 500 Now 458 Lorand 434 Time 408 Know 383 Vallant 362 Delin 357 More 337 Way 329 Even 305 Man 304 Rion 301 Here's the recap of Book 3 in its entirety (minus the first five chapters that should have been part of Book 2): Day 10 Vallant and Rion fake fight (badly) for the benefit of the various spies in the residence. Jovvi heads off to Allestine's trial, accompanied by Vallant. Allestine is convicted by her own testimony, thanks to the use of Puredan (a mind control drug that tastes like funny water). Dinner is a theatrical affair of pretending they all hate each other. A post-dinner conversation between Jovvi and Tamrissa confirms the Valissa ship is back on. Jovvi and Rion hook up in the bath house. Delin returns after successfully stealing a secret memorandum containing the Advisors secret plans and Eltrina gives another verbal report to High Lord Embisson at a meeting of the competitions steering committee, to confirm that Operation Shakespearean Deception was successful, because there was no way it would be convincing if written from any of the protagonist POVs. Day 11 Meerk take Lorand and Tamrissa go to see Hat as a challenger to the Seated High in Earth magic. The whole contest is a sham. Lord Carmad Lestrin shows up to teach the protagonists how to Blend; the protagonists are very proud of themselves for hiding the signs of their own success. Tamrissa puts an end to all spying in the house by threatening to dob in anyone watching them since knowledge of Blending is highly classified. Another testing authority representative, Lord Twimmal, shows up to teach them to Blend (badly). Jovvi finally figures out that they've all been drugged with Puredan to obey unknown orders. Meanwhile, Lord Idian shows up to teach the nobles how to Blend, but only Kambil and Delin are up. After Delin besmirches Rigos' reputation some more, Selendi, Homin and Bron finally show up. We get a THIRD lecture of "how to Blend" and Selendi and Bron can't reach Kambil. The three late arrivals are dismissed, then Kambil and Delin are told to have sex with Selendi ASAP, because that will somehow enable all of their magical connections to go through both Selendi AND Kambil. Kambil spends the afternoon messing around with everybody's heads (except for Delin). Delin has an assignation with a random MILF who is his source of intel for noble society gossip. The intel he gathers is related to his personal vendetta against Rigos which is utterly insignificant to the plot and delivered awkwardly via the worst sex scene in all eight books (which is really saying something). He ends the night by murdering Ollon Kapmar (the late Elfini's brother), except Delin doesn't remember the murder act, just the entire fantasy sequence leading up to it. By the end of Day 11, both groups have "Blended", though consistent with the "my protagonists are just so much more awesome than everybody else", Green's protagonists get it in one try while the nobles need a second attempt. Jovvi and Tamrissa realize polycule shenanigans need to occur for magical strengthening reasons. Tamrissa and Jovvi fail to seduce Lorand and Vallant respectively, because "bros before hos". Jovvi drags everybody into Lorand's room for a five-way conversation about group sex protocols which end up being all about soothing Vallant and Lorand's respective egos. Meanwhile, Rion sneaks off while the other four are busy drowning themselves in their sappy relationship drama to have his own sappy exchange with Naran, who needs a place to stay. They make arrangements for Naran to come back at night. After Naran leaves, Hallina shows up again. Rion tells her to go away, and she does, after the standard "you'll be sorry for this" parting speech. Everyone agrees to hide Naran. Meanwhile, Storn and Mirra turn up again. Tamrissa and Vallant also give them the "haha go away, we're untouchable because we're in the competitions" speech which cause Storn and Mirra to also go away after their "you'll be sorry!" speech. After yet another Meanwhile, Jovvi, Rion and Lorand engage in kindergarten level speculation about what they could be magically capable of. Upon Vallant and Tamrissa's return, Jovvi announces her own ultimatum of "I won't sleep with Vallant unless I get to sleep with Lorand afterwards". Cue polycule shenanigans, beginning with Tamrissa and Lorand, then Jovvi and Vallant. Afterwards, Tamrissa and Jovvi pretend feud their way to the bath house so they can have girl talk about Fire magic weird sex tricks and more discussion. Thanks to that discussion, Tamrissa has a nightmare. Everyone confronts Rion about the possibility that Naran could be a spy and he reluctantly agrees to let her be magically questioned. They Blend to form a magical entity (that has no physical body and a single pooled consciousness) which liberally uses Spirit magic to vet Naran's intentions and make eyewitnesses forget everything pertaining to Naran, before knocking everybody out with Earth magic and sneaking Naran into the house using Air and Water magic. Their Blending effort brings everyone (except Tamrissa) to the brink of exhaustion. Everyone other than Vallant leaves in their romantic pairs. Unfortunately, Vallant passes out cold while Tamrissa's psyching herself up for sex. Day 12 During breakfast, Delin notices that Bron, Homin and Selendi are all acting suspiciously very unlike their actual selves while Kambil is uncharacteristically still asleep. Idian shows up to confirm Delin and co can actually Blend. Meanwhile, Blendingverse detectives are finally on the case of Ollon's murder: first, Eltrina is cleared and confirmed as Ollon's replacement, then Idian returns to break the news that Rigos committed suicide prior to Ollon's death. The detectives suspect Delin but aren't strong enough to confirm it's him. Thanks to Tamrissa being an incredible drama queen about Vallant passing out from exhaustion, Vallant makes up a ridiculous story about the testing authority putting him to sleep. Jovvi, Lorand and Rion go along with it because Vallant and Tamrissa need to get it on for contrived plot reasons to make their Blending super strong. Meerk shows up to tell Lorand that Hat can't be found, and Lorand asks Meerk to keep looking. Twimmal shows up and they put on a very unconvincing farce of being compliant little sheep who can only surface Blend, which Twimmal is not smart enough to see through. He leaves them with a useless bunch of "Blending" exercises before Delin's letter arrives to drop plot critical information in their literal laps. Delin's letter reveals that they've all been put under Puredan control to obey commands given under a command phrase, and it takes Naran less than a minute to figure out a solution. They receive a placard announcing that the competitions will be held in seven days. Day 15 After some Blending practice, Delin and co go out to interrogate High Lord Embisson Ruhl, only to discover that he doesn't know anything useful, because anybody who knows anything about Blendings is killed after the competitions. Meanwhile, Vallant goes out to meet Pagin after breakfast, so that Pagin can get on with doing plot critical things, like freeing the rest of the common Blendings from the command phrase, off screen, so Vallant can come up with a new plan on how to circumvent consent in order to sleep with Tamrissa. Priorities, yo. Tamrissa has two more unconvincing encounters to duly demonstrate magically aided character growth that has happened entirely off screen. And to no one's surprise, Vallant's plan is to literally barge into Tamrissa's room while she's about to go to sleep and her into liking him—and it actually works (because Green, but also because Jovvi and Lorand decide to mess around with Tamrissa's emotions and bodily reactions, thus taking away her ability to consent). And this is all TOTALLY OKAY because Vallant is so good at mind blowing sex that Tamrissa had many orgasms. Day 18 Lords Idian and Twimmal show up to give their charges last minute instructions. Idian knows the instructions are full of lies; Twimmal's instructions contain more lies but Twimmal is oblivious to them. Neither the protagonists nor the noble antagonists fall for the sham. Meanwhile, Pagin Holter has been doing all the hard work of information gathering and coordinating with the other commoner Blendings off screen so Our Protagonists can indulge in congratulating themselves for engineering Vallant's rape of Tamrissa and trying to make a Big Deal out of Tamrissa's constantly holding on to the power. Day 19 Our commoner protagonists and noble antagonists alike get stuck in a traffic jam en route to the amphitheatre that will be a Significant Location on par with the Palace and is not described anywhere as effectively as the palace was (which, if you've forgotten, was "big" and had a "verandah"). The Advisors switch around the matches as a last minute "favor" to Delin and co, for the dumb reason of not wanting Delin to die because they want to make an example of him for the various murders. Our protagonists spend the whole chapter waiting around and changing into their competitions robes and underwear and not eating the contaminated food. Lord Simin shows up and commands them to throw the match. Once the noble leaves, our protagonists spend the rest of their waiting time being general, arrogant know-it-alls who are gleefully crowing about their victory and making plans on how they are going to reform the Empire, because they are the smartest and bestest people ever and Lord Simin is a clueless idiot who has no idea that they have broken free from their Puredan conditioning. Our Heroes walk out into the arena and annihilate their opponents, and so do three other common Blendings; only one noble Blending (guess who?) wins their match. Kambil and co receive unofficial official backing from the Advisors due to being the only noble Blending remaining. High Lord Advisor Zolind suspects them of being the ones who caused Adriari's Blending's deaths and gives High Lord Embisson an ultimatum: find proof of Kambil and co's crimes, or else. Regardless of Embission's results, Zolind has zero intention of Seating Kambil and co: he's already planning their disappearance and replacement. Despite Eltrina's terrible attempts to assert authority by simply yelling at people to do as she says, none of the common Blendings are dumb enough to agree to be gigantic sitting targets by staying overnight in the ampitheatre. Meanwhile Kambil and his puppets spend an entire meeting humoring Delin's delusions of being in charge. Day 22 Tamrissa and co finally get called to compete in the last day of the competitions. Naran is super sure they're definitely going to win. Upon their arrival at the amphitheatre, they are escorted to wait around again, in an apartment with a bunch of anonymous letters addressed to them personally. Rion volunteers as tribute and opens his letter to discover that his father is not a dead noble, but was in fact his mother's gardener who was fired as soon as she conceived Rion and so is probably still alive and out there, somewhere. Rion is shattered by the revelation, but does a complete 180 when the rest of Our Heroes point out how this is actually the Best News Ever because now he's really a REAL PERSON and not a useless noble. Delin has a mini freak out because the antagonists discover that the letters were not read. They Blend and discover that Tamrissa and co are WAY stronger and also know how to shield, which conveniently has only been mentioned like once in the narrative to date and not an ability that the protagonists have demonstrated before. Delin and co are about to lose when the protagonists all collapse because Zolind had people hide hilsom powder in their regulation testing authority issued underwear...and all it took to trigger that powder was to have some Air talents shake their clothes. Delin is super confused and pissed off at Kambil taking charge so he tries to drug his Blendingmates with Puredan. Except it turns out to be just water and Kambil (and his mind slaves, Homin, Selendi and Bron) conveniently gives us a villain monologue that retcons everything we've seen in the antagonist storyline and reads like Green's revision notes from her editor of how she could make the book not boring. Lorand/Jovvi/Rion/Tamrissa/Vallant individually half-wake in a drugged state. They can't remember what happened and they can't reach the power and the people around them keep saying that they might be "damaged". Permanently. Counts so far: TOTAL WORDS: 470,857 Book 1: 181,539 Book 2 (first five chapters): 12,137 --> Actual Book 1 total = 193,676 Book 2 (remaining chapters): 136,649 Book 3 (first five chapters): 12,291 --> Actual Book 2 total = 148,940 Book 3 (remaining chapters): 128,241 We are at nearly half a million words. HALF A MILLION WORDS. My last read was The Priory of the Orange Tree which I had ambivalent feelings about. The character work was spotty, the story was fine but plot-driven rather than character drive, but it was only 260k words or so. The Traitor Baru Cormorant is around 140k words. I want that to sink in for you. The Traitor Baru Cormorant ended up at around 140k words after edits, which is about the same number of words that are physically contained within Sharon Green's Challenges (140,532 words to be precise). Jade City is estimated at about the same. The Traitor Baru Cormorant is one of the most brilliantly crafted epic fantasy novels in existence. Challenges is the best book so far in an irredeemable dumpster fire of a half-assed polycule romance trying to masquerade as an epic fantasy series. NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre MEALS ON-SCREEN: 31 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 118 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 56 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 34 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 96 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 64 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 67 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 35 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 21 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scepe) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
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Book Four: Betrayals This is the first cover that has an editorial review quote on the cover from Publishers Weekly, which is a big name trade magazine for books, and is known for its editorial reviews. Here's what its submission guidelines are, currently: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/corp/submissionguidelines.html Some key extracts: quote:Submissions must be sent three (3) months—preferably four (4)—prior to the 1st day of the month of publication. It is very hard to get a Publishers Weekly review as a self-published author. But if you pay to play, you can spend $399 USD to get a BookLife review, which is supposedly written by the same reviewers. Anyway, Sharon Green's publisher somehow managed to get her this review from Publishers Weekly for Convergence (Book 1): Publishers Weekly posted:Every 25 years, the law calls for a new Blending to rule the land. The Blending consists of five high practitioners of the magic of Fire, Earth, Air, Water and Spirit. But now is also the time foretold by the Prophecies--when the tyrannical Four would return to bring destruction to the land. Which means that this new Blending must be an extraordinary one. Convergence is an engaging, imaginative and often humorous story narrated by Tamrissa (Fire), that documents the journey, background and trials of Lorand (Earth), Clarion (Air), Vallant (Water) and Jovvi (Spirit) as they each compete for the new Blending. Although all very different, the five become close allies, overcoming their many fears and vulnerabilities to qualify for the competition that will determine the new Blending. Green (Dark Mirrors, Dark Dreams) has written a fine first installment to what promises to be a wonderful new fantasy series.(Nov.) I swear whoever the reviewer was just completely phoned it in for this. It reads like they started by copy/pasting from whatever synopsis Green's publisher submitted, then realized after four sentences that whoever wrote the synopsis is a terrible writer, and then reluctantly started applying their brains to try and summarize this hot mess of a book. Let's break it down sentence by sentence. Publishers Weekly posted:Convergence is an engaging, imaginative and often humorous story The premise was engaging and imaginative. The execution is bland and devoid of any humor whatsoever. Publishers Weekly posted:narrated by Tamrissa (Fire), that documents the journey, background and trials of Lorand (Earth), Clarion (Air), Vallant (Water) and Jovvi (Spirit) as they each compete for the new Blending. Factually accurate. Publishers Weekly posted:Although all very different Hahahahaha what. If they didn't have conveniently different magical talents, it'd be hard to tell them apart. Publishers Weekly posted:the five become close allies I did not see anything resembling close alliance in the first book. Publishers Weekly posted:overcoming their many fears and vulnerabilities There were no fears or vulnerabilities overcome. Unless you count Rion discovering that sex is a thing. Lorand's still terrified of burnout, Vallant is still situationally claustrophobic, Tamrissa's still terrified of men, Jovvi's still Publishers Weekly posted:to qualify for the competition that will determine the new Blending. Factually accurate, but misleading. Reminder that the end of the physical volume of Book 1 cuts off in the middle of their trials for mastery. Publishers Weekly posted:Green (Dark Mirrors, Dark Dreams) has written a fine first installment to what promises to be a wonderful new fantasy series.(Nov.) I have not read Dark Mirrors, Dark Dreams and I do not think I want to. But let's check it out. It seems like it is Book 3 in another 5-book series: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078MR6XH3 quote:Book 1: Alex is embroiled in the plots and plans of those around her, but she's determined to see her own plans work instead of theirs. ...is this the secret prequel to The Blending? This sounds like...the Evil Four's story. Green did not get the memo from the self-publishing thread about not designing your own covers: Let's have a look at the sample of Dark Mirrors, Dark Dreams: Oh god it's a shifter romance. And oh god, it's totally-not-proto-Tamrissa married to probably-not-Vallant in a shifter romance. I'm OUT. Anyway. Here's the blurb for Book 4: quote:On a world of magical adepts, the five greatest talents are fated to unite and rule. But Tamrissa, Jovi, Vallant, Rion, and Lorand have been cruelly separated, struck down by treachery at the very moment of their greatest triumph. Blurbs have evolved a lot since this was published. I am terrible at writing blurbs and therefore am qualified to say that this is a terrible blurb. In all fairness, ensemble cast blurbs are hard to write, because you have less words to convey multiple storylines. Except at this point, we can now group everybody together by Blendings and forget about their individuality, in which case, this is still a bad blurb. But that might be because the underlying story sucks so it could be a case of the less that is said, the better. Consistent with the last three books, we have a foreword from Tamrissa, right before Chapter one: quote:I believe I’m beginning to do more than simply enjoy this writing project. When I’m very tired ordinary despair becomes intense, and then I begin to doubt that we’ll ever find a way out of the swamp our lives have become. Doubting is so much easier than hoping and believing, not to mention being completely free of disappointment. That’s probably why I do it so often…. Reminder that said treachery and betrayal was delivered in the form of...contaminated knockout drugs in powdered form on their underwear that were shaken magically to get them to inhale said powder. quote:CHAPTER ONE Uh, wow, so this is surprising. What I thought was Chapter 49 of Book 3 is actually Chapter 1 of Book 4—it's been THAT long since I read these. I don't have my paperbacks anymore so I can't verify whether Book 3 just cut off on Delin getting mindslaved, but if it did, I would not be surprised! And if Green actually repeated the chapter in the print version in two books...well that doesn't surprise me either. If anyone's got a copy of the paperbacks handy, please confirm the actual last sentence of Book 3! At any rate, I have run out of steam today to tackle more Blendingverse. The book summary posts are always a brain-killer because it forces you to see how much absolute drivel is in these books. Sorry about the long gap between posts, between actually hitting publish on my epic fantasy novel, and a bunch of personal life stuff, it's been a crazy couple of weeks. I am in between writing books at the moment (just working on the sequel), so I hope to be able to resume doing one chapter per week. (If you do happen to want to check out my book, it's available on Amazon and you can read it for free if you have Kindle Unlimited.)
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Leng posted:Green did not get the memo from the self-publishing thread about not designing your own covers: Leng posted:And if Green actually repeated the chapter in the print version in two books...well that doesn't surprise me either. Honestly this is 100% my guess, based on Tamrissa’s ominous “let me recap for you!” introduction to this book.
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quote:CHAPTER TWO Having flashbacks to Book 1, when Jovvi walks into Tamrissa's house and thinks the decor is gauche. quote:I found myself wondering where it might be, but even as the question formed I already knew the answer: that noble I hadn’t had much time to worry about; he’d made good on his threat, and had claimed me for his own purposes. Could it be? Are we about to actually have our protagonists undergo trials that will test them? Not-spoilers: nah, because Green. Just wait until you see how Tamrissa gets out of this one. quote:It took two attempts, but I finally managed to get to my feet in order to walk around a bit. The fear growing inside my middle made me want to run, but simply walking straight was still something of a chore. That sedative must still be hanging on in some way, so getting rid of it was a priority. Not to mention figuring out what in the world could have happened … Hilsom powder. In their underwear. Seriously. I don't understand how they didn't knock themselves out when they got changed. quote:“You’re a fool,” I whispered to myself, hating the way my voice shook even then. “The reason you lost is perfectly obvious: the nobles cheated. They were about to lose and they knew it, so they cheated.” It's okay, just reach out to the power and let the literal magical plot device do all the work for you. quote:The ice around my heart grew a bit thicker with that realization, so I continued on toward the windows. It was possible to see bright sunshine beyond the sheer white curtains, but nothing else. If there were terrace doors, for instance, stepping outside would help—especially if it were possible to simply walk away. I needed to be away from there, even though I had no idea where I would go…. Do you not remember that you literally melted some metal and tempered it during your first test for High? In case you want to know, it's taken 730 boring words to recap where things are at. Never mind that Chapter 1 was literally a recap chapter. quote:Questions of that sort kept me pacing back and forth across the room for a while. At one point, when I passed a Full-length mirror in a dark wood, intricately carved, frame, I noticed something else. (also that typo is in the ebook) quote:I no longer wore the white robe we’d all had on for the competitions. Instead I wore a beautiful, obviously expensive dress of rose and gold which seemed to match the room. I had no memory of having put on that dress, so someone else must have put me in it. Another thing to add to the list causing agitation…. Never mind the world building inconsistencies of a wealthy woman who keeps a full staff at a house that only she lives in, including a companion, dressing herself. quote:I had just reached the vicinity of my chair again when I heard a sound at the door. Someone seemed to be unlocking it, and it came to me that I hadn’t even tried that door. Obviously it had been locked, but what if it hadn’t been? It made me ill to realize that I seemed to be in the midst of meekly accepting what had been done … and what would be done … Then the door opened, and my illness increased. Then the chapter continued and my boredom increased. quote:“Good morning, child,” that noble said, smiling as he entered and closed the door behind him. He also examined me with his eyes as he walked closer, but happily he stopped more than five feet away. Except for drugging you with hilsom powder. Or burnout. Or Puredan. Or Spirit magic orders. quote:“I imagine that you’re now in the process of reaching for the power, and are discovering that touching it is quite impossible,” he replied, vindictive satisfaction appearing in his dark eyes. “Denying you whatever might be left of your talent was the first thing I did after the Puredan was given you, and commanding obedience was the second. You will learn just how obedient you must be tonight after dinner, when I take full pleasure from you. And now I really must go” I swear Green just copies and pastes this dialogue from some central template for all her male characters, varying only slightly for whether or not said male character is supposed to be a good guy or not. She doesn't bother with the "good guy" variation in her other, straight-up erotica works. quote:He performed a small, sardonic bow before turning and heading for the door, but I barely noticed. I stood in deep shock with my fists to my head, trying frantically to reach to the power just as I’d done all my life. The action was as natural as walking or speaking, and it felt as though I were paralyzed or struck mute! Not only couldn’t I reach the power, it wasn’t even possible to locate it! In all fairness, this is a pretty horrific situation for a sexual abuse survivor to be in. Yet Green's wooden prose leeches all emotional impact out of it. quote:I sat unmoving in the chair for a timeless time, my mind almost empty of thought, and then there was sound at the door again. A moment later it opened, and two women entered. The younger was a girl carrying a tray with covered dishes and a tea pitcher, and the elder seemed a higher-level servant. I paid very little attention to the pair as the girl set down the tray on a table and left again, but the elder woman apparently disliked my extreme distraction. Oh look, finally a name! quote:The woman’s voice had been harsh with the tone of one used to being obeyed, and I actually stirred a bit in automatic response. My parents had certainly trained me well, and the unconscious response seemed to satisfy the woman. She gave a brusque nod and turned to leave, shutting and locking the door behind herself. But by that time I’d fallen back into apathy, so even the stirring quieted. I had no appetite, and probably would never have one ever again. Wait for it. quote:I sat staring and unmoving for another rather long stretch of time, but then an odd thought crept into my head. That noble, apparently named Lord Lanir, had said I’d already been given the Puredan as well as his orders. If that were so I would have no choice but to obey him, and yet there I sat, having nothing to do with the meal he wanted me to eat. That woman had clearly expected me to obey the secondhand orders, but I hadn’t. Could she simply have been mistaken to expect something like that? Wait for it... quote:A moment of thought convinced me that her being mistaken was unlikely. Her noble employer must have told her what to expect, and the miserable man was certainly in a position to know. That meant I should have obeyed, and yet I hadn’t. But not obeying orders given you while you’re under the influence of Puredan is impossible … Which, in a Green novel, means it is virtually certain. quote:“You fool!” I said to myself aloud, suddenly feeling extremely stupid. Why, in the name of the Highest Aspect, would you literally say this aloud? quote:“When we freed ourselves from the first orders given us under Puredan, didn’t we specify that we were never to obey such orders again? None of us knew if the trick would work, but it looks like it did … !” Hello one weird trick to railroad the plot and prevent Our Heroes from ever having to do any actual work! And if you're wondering, she uses this particular trick over and over again in all of her mind control stories. quote:Excitement rose in me so quickly that it probably would have knocked me over if I’d been standing. I’d forgotten all about that business of telling ourselves not to obey, and it made an enormous difference. If one of the man’s commands hadn’t worked, the other shouldn’t have worked either. I wasn’t permanently cut off from my talent, even if I hadn’t been able to detect the power at all…. This is not going anywhere, don't worry. quote:Worry sent me up on my feet and pacing again, the darker emotion dimming the excitement I felt. I was now in a much better position than I’d been in earlier, but what had that Lord Lanir said about my talent? Something concerning “whatever ability” I might “have left”? He obviously knew something that I didn’t, and it remained to be seen how true his beliefs were. Spoilers: like all things Green, she sets up possible complications that will never eventuate or matter quote:After pacing back and forth for a while, I finally decided that I needed a cup of tea. I went to the tray and poured the cup, but didn’t so much as glance at whatever food lay under the plate covers. I might be free of needing to obey the monster who held me in capture, but without my talent I would certainly be helpless to defend myself against him. If a distant touch were all I ever found it possible to accomplish, I would still prefer to be dead. Yep. All Tamrissa had to do was sit and wait. That was it. Her powers are back. She can just burn her way out of here now. quote:“So why wasn’t I able to reach it sooner?” I asked aloud in a murmur, feeling the strength of personality that being in touch with the power always brought. “And why did that fool think my talent would be less than it was?” Beginning obligatory infodump! About a thing that we already learned in the previous books! quote:I’d beard of hilsom powder, of course, but never having used it myself meant I’d known nothing of the details concerning it until Lorand had explained its main purpose and effects. Hilsom powder was used for the most part by physicians, and not just to sedate certain patients, but also to separate them from the power. Even Low talents can cause a good deal of havoc if they’re hysterical, or insane, or even just delirious from a fever. Hilsom powder denies them the use of their talent while they’re sedated, and returns their ability slowly over a period of time. We have never, and will never, see a Low talent do any sort of harm. Low talents are considered exactly as they are named: beneath everybody else. quote:“So that means all I should have to do is wait,” I murmured, feeling a good deal better. “Once I’ve regained every bit of my strength, I’ll simply walk out of here. Anyone who tries to stop me will find out the hard way why Fire is the guardian talent in a Blending—” Will Tamrissa actually have to DO something? Spoilers: no, because Green quote:Depression tried to fill me again, but the strength flowing into me from the power left no room for debilitating emotions. It was impossible to deny that I would have to act alone, but that would hardly be the first time. It might turn out to be the hardest time, but that would hold true only if I failed to make a decent plan. That, then, was my first objective: to make a plan rather than simply to act and run. Running blindly is often worse than not running at all. Thanks be to the Highest Aspect, which conveniently provides blatant moralizing along with removing the need to struggle for personal growth at all. quote:So I returned to the tray with the intention of refilling my teacup, and ended up sitting down to the meal. I’d suddenly noticed that I was quite hungry after all, and it was necessary to remember that I’d been commanded to eat. Giving those people the least hint that I wasn’t quite as helpless as they imagined would be stupid, and my Blendingmates and I had already committed enough stupidities. The books would be a whole lot more enjoyable if you guys were a little more proactively stupid in doing things, instead of just being relationship drama stupid. quote:By the time I finished the food—which I had to rewarm only a little Green just conveniently forgetting that in her setting, anybody else who is Fire aspected would be able to sense Tamrissa's use of her talent. And exactly how strong she is. And like there aren't a whole bunch of Low Fire talents working in the kitchens, just like we saw in Ginge's tavern back in Book 1 in a household this size. quote:—more of the fog was gone from my mind and I had a tentative plan. It had come to me that the others and I needed to know what had been done to us, to make certain it was never done a second time. I was sure Lanir knew the details, and it should be possible to get him to brag about his knowledge. He might even know what had been done with the others, and if so, then I would know. I promised myself that, in the grimmest tone I could ever remember using. This is the one time I'll give one of Green's characters a pass for not immediately doing something. quote:So I sipped tea and wondered what had been planned for my father as a reception. Seeing him again was another thing I would have been happy to miss, especially if he brought Odrin Hallasser with him. It was difficult to believe that anyone would actually try to challenge a noble’s claim to anything, so my father had to be more than desperate. I might have pitied someone else in the same situation, but my father had brought his problems on himself. He’d deliberately made his bed without considering anyone else, and now he could lie in it without interference. Summary: Day 23 (?) Tamrissa regains consciousness and discovers she's been taken as concubine by Lord Lanir, the Seated High in Fire. He drops a bunch of exposition about how he's mind-slaved her and forbidden her to use her talent ever again with Puredan. Except it doesn't work, since Naran, the greatest programmer of all time, discovered the secret to avoid becoming anybody's mind-slave in the last book—namely, they just need to be ordered to never obey any other orders ever again. One afternoon chilling out in a gaudy bedroom later, and Tamrissa's got all her mental faculties and her talent back. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 29 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 32 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 118 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 56 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 34 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 104 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 64 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 68 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 36 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 22 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scepe) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: I hate these recap chapters. I absolutely hate them. We shall talk about how I would fix it once we get through the next four of these.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 00:23 |
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I admire your determination, Leng. These books are worse than I remember.
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Hello!! I am new to this Let's Read experience, but not to The Blending. I first read it in high school in the early 00's -- and I LOVED it. My family and I were on a road trip across the southwest US, and every time I finished a book I made them find another Barnes & Noble so I could get the next one. I can't tell you why I was so hooked, but I was. The next time I read it was a few years later, in college maybe? This was the first time I remember thinking.... is The Blending bad? Is that why I can find no other human being talking about this series? I remember specifically being irritated with the way that she decided that if one thing happened to a character, it had to happen to all five (FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE). A person from someone's backstory pops up? Well get ready, because four more backstories are about to cause trouble. One couple fighting? Oh, you bet the other two are going to fight, too. Unhinged story structure. But despite that, I still had fond memories. CUT TO: a few weeks ago. I had to go to the emergency room for a slipped disc in my back -- something that was deeply uncomfortable but I knew was not urgent enough to get me on the fast track out of the waiting room anytime soon (I'm fine! Going to physical therapy now, on the mend). I wanted to take a book that would be distracting but extremely easy to read while I waited. As I scanned my bookshelf, I though, ah yes, old friend, Blending #1, you will do. And I have just kept going (currently on book 4) And you guys.... I know this is not news to anyone else on this thread.... but it's BAD. It's SO SO BAD. Why does she write like this? The first book has NO PLOT. It is just a series of random events, each of which you have to see FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE times. The characters are just THE WORST. Everyone says exactly what they're thinking. They sound like a series of identical robots. The government is utterly nonfunctional. I'm deeply confused about what the nobility even is. And DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE MAGIC SYSTEM. Green created a world where everyone has magic and yet no one seems to use their magic??? I am so loving annoyed that our main characters are all the best talents in the world but seem to have never used their magic for anything. They are just the best because they happened to luck into being born with it and also got put in the same house together (SEE USERNAME!!!). Lorand, Jovvi, and Vallant all had jobs EXTREMELY RELEVANT to their talents. It would have been so easy to say that part of the reason those three were so skilled was that they had lots of training and experience. But no -- they seem utterly ignorant of any practical uses for their skills before they get put into the house and are just the best who have ever lived for ??????? reasons. And look, if Green had WANTED to build a society where everyone had magic but use of it was forbidden by the powers that be, that would be something. But there is no indication that that's the case. ALSO if you can tell how powerful someone of the same Aspect as you is....how did the Nobles get away with the Seated Blending/Seated High (an utterly worthless distinction btw) deception for so long????? At first it seemed like maybe you can only identify the power level of someone less powerful than you, but I'm in book 4 now and everyone is just constantly recoiling from our main characters in fear when they feel their powers, so. Also it really bothers me that I'm in book 4 and no one has asked Naran what her power is. I know she's pretending to be an extremely extremely low Aspect in something, but I can't remember which one and no one has bothered to ask her. Shouldn't that be like, the first thing you learn about someone when you become acquainted? I could go on and on. Anyway early on in my re-read I googled it to see if anyone else had ever read this series and found this read-through. I was re-reading your recaps every couple of chapters and just cracking up. My favorite thing was your meal tracker -- it is truly incredible how she has decided to never miss a meal. I recently passed you and I'm devastated!! I cannot wait to see what you have to say about all of the utter garbage coming up, both major (the Tamrissa/Vallant fight in this book is morally despicable, I hate Green for writing this) and minor (Chapter 12!! When Vallant tells Rion about getting breakfast delivered, we flash back to see Vallant getting breakfast delivered, and then the flashback runs all the way up to the present, including Vallant telling Rion about getting breakfast delivered). I hate how everyone just paired up literally on the basis of who they met first -- Jovvi/Vallant and Tamma/Lorand makes WAY more sense to me given that Lorand has sexual hangups but is a generally sweet partner that could have been good for Tamma, while Vallant is a worldly sea captain who has probably visited his fair share of courtesans and Jovvi could have handled his nonsense better. I also agree that I wish the polyamory sex magic of it all were 100% gayer -- LET RION HAVE SEX WITH SOME DUDES. HE WOULD LIKE IT. In the hypothetical 2022 Netflix adaption of this series, he would be the lovable bi disaster who is everyone's favorite. It's truly insane how the books describe all five (FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE) as being blonde-haired and blue-eyed and extremely identical in their hotness. I know covers are utterly meaningless, but on the covers only Jovvi and Rion are blondes, while Lorand is a brunette, Tamma is a redhead, and Vallant has black hair, all of which feels correct to me. Anyway I bought membership to Something Awful just so that I could say all this. $10 was a small price to pay for the sheer entertainment your posts have brought me, though I wish you got to see some of it! Looking forward to being part of the conversation.
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Liquid Communism posted:I admire your determination, Leng. These books are worse than I remember. paginwasrobbed posted:I first read it in high school in the early 00's -- and I LOVED it. My family and I were on a road trip across the southwest US, and every time I finished a book I made them find another Barnes & Noble so I could get the next one. I can't tell you why I was so hooked, but I was. paginwasrobbed posted:Hello!! I am new to this Let's Read experience, but not to The Blending. Welcome! When I saw your username pop up in the thread, I laughed, because YES PAGIN WAS ROBBED. Make Pagin the protagonist. Or Adriari. Or Kambil. Or Grami. Or Meerk. Or any of the far more interesting side characters who have been wronged by Green's narrative choices. paginwasrobbed posted:I recently passed you and I'm devastated!! I cannot wait to see what you have to say about all of the utter garbage coming up More posts are coming, hopefully the next one later this week! The last month or so has been a little crazy for me, but I'm hopeful that things will settle down after another week or two and I can get back into a regular posting schedule.
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paginwasrobbed posted:I also agree that I wish the polyamory sex magic of it all were 100% gayer -- LET RION HAVE SEX WITH SOME DUDES. HE WOULD LIKE IT. In the hypothetical 2022 Netflix adaption of this series, he would be the lovable bi disaster who is everyone's favorite. Honestly this is a series that could really benefit from adaptation. There’s a solid premise and some interesting stuff going on, it’s just all buried in nonsense. If you took the parts people remember fondly, you could get something great out of it. Also your username is amazing lol (and true).
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Trigger warning for another rape scene quote:CHAPTER THREE Hello Rion. quote:“Ah, good morning, my darling,” Mother’s voice came, and then she appeared to take the chair opposite his. “Did you sleep well? Did you enjoy your breakfast? … I know you’re able to reply, Clarion, and I would advise you to do so at once. I’m sure you’ve learned better than to make Mother angry.” What is this random use of an ellipses?! quote:“In point of fact, I’ve learned a good deal more than that,” Rion responded, forced to speak slowly and with difficulty. “The most important lesson is that your anger is meaningless, so you may do as you please in that regard. I assure you that it will all be the same to me.” I wish we had smarter protagonists. When Rion regained consciousness, he was drugged so bad that he couldn't speak! Hallina is so dumb that he could have pretended to be his old self in this scene and he would have gotten away with it. It's the one role that he doesn't need to playact and doesn't need any other skills or knowledge to pull off and would have been the easiest means of escape. But no, all our protagonists are cut from the same piece of cardboard so every single one of them has to demonstrate how heroic they are by defying the petty evil nobles. quote:“You seem to think that ignoring the truth will make it go away,” Rion observed, wishing it were possible to throw off the lethargy holding him in place. “Your former ‘darling boy’ has ceased to exist, and the man he has become detests you and all you stand for. If not for whatever I’ve been drugged with, I would walk from this house without a single backward glance.” So why are you not taking advantage of this? Here, do this: "Oh Mother, thank you so much for saving me from those dreadful people! I was being controlled by that trollop with Spirit magic and didn't know what I was saying. I'm so sorry that I caused you such pain. Please, Mother dear, please forgive me. You still love your darling boy, don't you? Could we go out for a private lunch so I can tell you how much I love you? Oh, you're busy? Perhaps could I borrow the carriage, to go see my tailor? I can't abide wearing these peasant clothes! And of course, Mother, I'll need some gold because I'll need a whole new wardrobe. Why, thank you Mother, I love you so much." And then once you've got the gold and the carriage, LEAVE. quote:“You don’t need anyone’s companionship but mine,” she grated, once again less than pleased. “But that doesn’t mean I caused those incidents. It’s painful to say this to you, my dear, but your… clumsiness and lack of personality precipitated those discomfitures. You simply weren’t able to cope, and all I did was sympathize and support you. If that’s the sort of thing you wish to blame me for, please feel free to do so. A loving mother is always willing to be of whatever help she can be?” Why is that last sentence a question? quote:“I find it difficult to believe that at one time I would have been swayed by that sort of nonsense,” Rion remarked, ignoring the nobly suffering expression on her face. “This drug allows me nothing in the way of strong emotions, of course, but even beyond that your claims are patently absurd. Someone who is incapable is incapable all the time, not simply when one particular person is about. Tell me what has become of my friends.” See if you had pretended to be your old self, you'd actually be able to get some good intel here, because every single one of the nobility love to gloat. And Hallina would've told you exactly where all the others were. quote:“If you’re waiting for me to ask what that something is, you’re being absurd again,” Rion said, trying to find the energy to at least think about struggling against the drug. “Your threats will never frighten me again, so you’d best resign yourself to not having your own way this time.” OMFG the clumsy exposition here. quote:This time Rion said nothing, principally to underscore his lack of interest. He truly felt that being dead would be preferable to remaining a prisoner for as long as his mother lived, something she needed to understand and believe. Too little, too late, Rion. You should have said nothing from the beginning. quote:“The physician told me something rather interesting,” Mother continued in the purr that showed she was at her most vindictive. “The sedative you’re being given is called hilsom powder, and I was warned not to keep you on it too long. Another day or two will be enough to be certain that your Air magic talent is ruined beyond repair, but then you must be taken off it or there could be … mind damage. Are you able to appreciate what that means?” Oh look, something interesting happening! Will it go anywhere? Not-spoilers: no! We already know that the so-called damage is non-existent, thanks to the Tamrissa chapter. I'm inclined on that basis to conclude that prolonged reliance on hilsom powder doesn't do any long-term damage either, because for the rest of this series, it's never mentioned again. quote:“My poor darling, I can see how terribly confused you are,” she said as she rose from her chair and came close to pat his cheek. “I’ll let you think about your answer for a short while, but only for a short while. I’ve been thinking about it as well, and I’m nearly to the point of deciding that I might actually prefer you … altered. You’d be much more like the way you once were, and I really do miss that. I sincerely hope that your decision comes before I make my own, and now I must see to some business. We’ll speak again later, darling.” See this is the kind of villainy that would be interesting to read about! I could have gotten invested in a whole arc where Rion is forced to figure out a way to escape his mother by using his wits, and since Hallina is a Very Important Noble, there was an opportunity here to delve into all of the noble politics going on. quote:Some part deep inside Rion wanted to weep like a brokenhearted child, So does everyone reading along here. We all want to weep like brokenhearted children at the waste of all the potential in these ideas. quote:but the rest of him had passed beyond the comfort and release of tears. His Blendingmates would be made to suffer, Oh yes. So terrifying, this generic "suffering" that we have no idea about. quote:and he sat helpless and unable to help them. It was even beyond him to help himself, which brought self-hatred and even rage. But you're drugged and can't feel any strong emotion? quote:The only blessing was that Naran couldn’t see him now, and that she, at least, was safe…. Pretty sure you five just left Naran in Tamrissa's house, where none of the staff are aware of her existence thanks to Jovvi, and didn't bother coming up with a contingency plan in the event that you didn't come back from the competitions. Because you're all arrogant asses. quote:But what of the others? They're generically suffering, remember? quote:And in the name of the Highest Aspect—what was he to do? Spoilers for chapter 7: nothing, literally, Tamrissa's gonna come bust him out quote:* * * ELLIPSES! quote:Vallant became aware of the woman’s voice first, and then, after a long moment, he realized what she was in the midst of. His first thought after that was of Tamrissa, and he smiled to think how far she’d come. Vallant: "OMG YES I'M HAVING SEX!" quote:But then he opened his eyes, and shock tried to touch him when he saw Eltrina Razas instead of the woman he loved. The woman you love so much that you can't even recognize that it's not her voice. Or her body. Here's canon proof that Vallant literally can't tell women apart if he doesn't have his eyes open, even if he's balls deep inside one. quote:“Don’t be a fool, dear boy,” the woman laughed as her body tightened around him. Did Green suddenly become shy? I was waiting for another cringey euphemism, like maybe "her slick tunnel of horror" or "slimy cavern of terror" instead of "entrance of ultimate bliss". quote:“We’re through when I say we’re through, and that time hasn’t come yet. Who would have believed that a sedative used at less than full strength would produce results like this? It has something to do with lowering inhibitions, I’m told, as if I care why it works. All I care about is that it does, and that it isn’t going to stop anytime soon.” sedatives in this world are also sex drugs? Any doctors or pharmacists in the thread who can confirm if this is actually a thing? quote:Vallant had been trying to move himself out from beneath her, but she’d put her hands to his shoulders to hold him still. The effort should have been a joke, but his strength had apparently disappeared somewhere completely out of reach. He hated what was being done to him, but there didn’t seem to be a way to stop it. This is the most lacklustre effort at writing how horrible it is to be raped, ever. I can't tell if it's because this is just par for course for Green's prose or because she might potentially subscribe to the view that men can't be raped by women. Either of those could be possible, given her writing style and how much she's spouted. quote:“You’d better start showing me something in the way of enthusiastic technique,” the female noble panted as she continued to move up and down on him. “If you don’t, I have a cozy little crate to put you in until the next time I use you. Do you really want to be put into a tiny, airless crate?” Green's decided to make the plot-convenient situational claustrophobia a bigger deal than being raped. quote:“That’s only a little better,” the woman said, still sounding dissatisfied. “If you can’t do better than that, I’ll probably leave you in the crate for good.” Good man, Vallant. So far, he's been the only one who's tried using his brain instead of just yelling. quote:“You’re supposed to be giving me pleasure” she replied slowly and clearly, as though she spoke to an imbecile. “You do understand what pleasure is, don’t you?” Well done Vallant. And I genuinely mean that. Why can't we have more moments like this? quote:For your information, peasant, I give the orders, I don’t take them. And I hope your frustration level rises really high, because you’re under orders not to give yourself any relief. Eltrina is not as great a programmer as Naran is. Because if she was, she would have ordered him to "act like I am the woman you desire the most in the world". quote:I’ll be back later— after I speak to that fool in charge of your sedation!” that's a rather unfortunate word choice in this context. quote:with his right elbow and arm. Moving like that had been a battle, as what he most wanted to do was lie unmoving. This DIRECTLY contradicts the reaction you had when Eltrina threatened you with the crate. quote:Only a few drops of sweat dotted his forehead as he lay back, no longer interested in examining his surroundings. The room appeared to be something on the order of servant’s quarters, and except for a plain wooden chest and the bed he lay on, it was completely unfurnished. Aside from the lock on the door, which he’d heard being thrown after Eltrina slammed out…. Eltrina, I am very disappointed in you. You are a high-achieving, competent, ambitious woman with a high sex drive and lots of gold. I was expected a state-of-the-art sex dungeon. 0/5 stars, Green. quote:Despite the drug, Vallant had to fight for a time to keep the terror from taking him over completely. Locked in, drugged into helplessness… it was a wonder his mind hadn’t already snapped. His bare body had gone rigid as he struggled to free himself enough to move, enough to crawl to the door, at least, and try to break it down. Anything to get free, to reach the outer air where he could breathe … So we're just gonna forget entirely about the rape now? quote:But moving proved to be impossible, and after a time his straining body was forced to admit it. Then he remembered what he’d been in the middle of before this insanity began, and he groaned aloud. He and the others had been taken somehow, cut down just as they were about to win the final competition. Jovvi, and Lorand, and Rion—and Tamrissa. He had no idea what had been done with the others, but that noble who had wanted Tamrissa … At this very moment he might be savaging her, and he could do nothing but lie unmoving in a bed! quote:That thought set Vallant to struggling even harder, but it was still no use. The sweat now poured down his face and covered his body, but the drug continued to resist being bested. He was trapped and helpless—and had nothing to look forward to but Eltrina’s return and more humiliation. But despite all that he had to stay sane … and he didn’t know if he could manage it…. Okay, let me get this straight. Tamrissa being raped by Vallant = hot sex between True Lovers Tamrissa being raped by another guy = grounds for justified murder Vallant being raped by Eltrina = just humiliation Summary: Day 23 (?) Tamrissa/Rion/Vallant regains consciousness and discovers she's/he's been taken as concubine/captive/sex slave by Lord Lanir, the Seated High in Fire/Hallina Mardimill, his adoptive mother/Eltrina Razas. He/she drops a bunch of exposition about how he's/she's mind-slaved her/him and forbidden her/him to use her/his talent ever again with Puredan/jerk himself off. Except it doesn't work, since Naran, the greatest programmer of all time, discovered the secret to avoid becoming anybody's mind-slave in the last book—namely, they just need to be ordered to never obey any other orders ever again. One afternoon chilling out in a gaudy bedroom later, and Tamrissa's got all her mental faculties and her talent back. Meanwhile, Rion and Vallant are both dudes in distress, holding on for a hero. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 30 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 32 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 118 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 56 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 34 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 107 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 66 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 68 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 36 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 22 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 13, including 3 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 1 in Book 4, which is a rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: Oh thank goodness, that's all the recap chapters. I forgot that the Rion/Vallant recaps got shoved into a single chapter, and Jovvi/Lorand are out of commission until past the midpoint of the book. It's kind of ridiculous that the FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE thing is so overdone that I just assume anytime we read one chapter, we've got another four of the same by default. Alright, let's talk about how to fix this hot mess. Structural elements first: I think the answer, like most answers to fixing this series, is PICK ONE POV. The viable options are: Tamrissa, Rion, Vallant and spoilers for Book 4 Chapter 6 Naran:
Of course not! This is a Green novel, what were you thinking. As to all the rape and sexual violence. I don't have a problem with rape and sexual violence being explored in fiction, as long as it's done with thought. You could make the argument that if you're writing adult fantasy with an explicit sex mechanic in your magic system AND two magical abilities that can negate consent AND mind control drugs AND a rigid caste system AND a corrupt government AND the overall theme of your books is to do with control, you are almost obligated to address rape and sexual violence because there is no way it doesn't exist and isn't prevalent in this kind of setting. But FFS, don't just write a scene where Vallant is BEING RAPED and trivialize it like this. Especially when it's going to be a point of contention in the stupid ongoing Valissa relationship drama.
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A quick tangentially on-topic self promo post! So I mentioned earlier in the thread that I wrote and published a book:Leng posted:If you're still here three books into this hate-read, I'm fairly confident in promising that you'll enjoy my writing more than hers, especially if you've found my ideas on how I would rewrite Green's stuff interesting and you're curious to see whether I can back up my armchair critiques with my own writing. Link: https://books2read.com/petition Similarities to the Blendingverse:
Beefeater1980 posted:Re Petition: just downloaded this and prologue and ch1 are strong; I’m interested enough to read the rest. ulmont posted:Now that I finished this, let me come back to say that I enjoyed this book and look forward to the sequel. It's on sale for Amazon Prime Day until the end of July 14 for $1.99 USD (or approx for non-US folks) and free to read if you have Kindle Unlimited, if you happen to be in the mood for something vaguely similar to the Blendingverse but not terrible. Edit: I should thank Green, because this book would not exist if not for the Blendingverse. If The Blending had actually been decent, I wouldn't have gotten mad enough to attempt rewriting it, and if I hadn't done the rewrite, I wouldn't have had the guts to attempt writing my own original fiction. So uh, thank you Sharon Green. For giving me both the realization that truly anyone can be a published author and the motivation to write good books. Leng fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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quote:CHAPTER FOUR This is the closest thing to a decent exchange of dialogue in these books. Possibly one of the best examples! Nobody is lecturing, everybody's got lines that are in character, you can even distinguish who the speakers are without the dialogue tags, and the dialogue tags themselves are actually actions that convey character and plot information instead of telling us what emotion the characters are feeling. quote:“It’s pleasant to see a young girl showing proper manners,” the woman replied in her stiff, formal way, obviously missing the dryness I hadn’t been able to keep out of my tone. Annnnd now we're going to resume normal Green standards of dialogue. quote:“Be sure not to muss yourself while waiting to be called to dinner. Best, I think, would be to stand in the middle of the room.” Annnnnnd ruin an otherwise great dialogue line with some obligatory hammer in face. quote:The maid who had helped me dress went with her, so I was finally able to turn away from the mirror. I’d needed the help of my reflection to keep my expression properly neutral, especially after seeing the gown which had been chosen for me. All pink-and-white lace with flounces, a costume obviously designed for a very young girl. I looked like a child in it, a helpless, innocent child. Disappointed we didn't get another porno self-description emphasizing how beautiful Tamrissa is. quote:Anger growled high inside me again, but the worry I’d been fencing with for hours had no trouble overwhelming it. As soon as my relief at being able to touch the power again faded just a little, I’d remembered I wasn’t able to release that touch if I cared to. That meant I could be found out at any time by someone with Fire magic, even though that someone would also have to be touching the power. Surely there were any number of people who made a practice of touching the power on a regular basis … Obligatory Green realization of her plothole! quote:As I sat down in a chair, I remembered ruefully how long I’d spent that afternoon, waiting to be found out. My usual self-confidence while touching the power had been badly shaken, and it only reasserted itself after time had passed and no one had come bursting in to shout and point a finger. It became clear that either no one in the house with Fire magic was touching the power, or, more likely, those touching it were Low talents and too far away to detect me. 382 words that are completely unnecessary. quote:When the sound of the door being unlocked came, it was something of a surprise. I’d spent so long getting myself used to the idea of waiting … When the time for the need was abruptly over, I found myself on my feet without remembering the process of standing. If this was Lanir, things could start happening at any moment. The door opened and it was the noble, and— Since Green said that things could start happening at any moment, we all know that absolutely nothing is going to happen. quote:“My dear child, how very lovely you look,” he said, taking only a single step into the room, his gaze moving slowly over me. “I will be the envy of all my friends, though only a few of them are invited to dine with us tonight. Those few will have their own lovely companions with them rather than their wives, of course, to round out the company in a proper way. My own lady wife is currently at one of our country houses, so you need have no fear of being forced to endure an embarrassing confrontation. Come, let us repair to the dining room.” Two ellipses in a row in successive sentences. The more I read, the deeper my appreciation for well-crafted prose. Yesterday, I was looking in a self-promo thread for authors and one of the blurbs posted appealed to me. I clicked through to the sample chapters and immediately noped out of there because of the prose—every single sentence was deliberately constructed to make use of obvious alliteration. It was pretty much the only technique the author used. I managed to read one and a half pages before my brain started shutting down on a paragraph that had twelve words beginning with the letter "p" stuffed into three sentences. quote:By the time we reached the dining room, I’d regained control of myself. The house Lanir led me through was enormous, at least three times the size of mine by the look of all the rooms we passed. Lanir chatted on and on, happily telling me what a wonderful life I would have with him. I would be required to remain in that house at all times, of course, but would not be disturbed by anyone—even the children I bore. The infants would be given over into the care of wet nurses, and would be housed elsewhere. This is a horrific future being described. Why are we not getting Tamrissa's internals on this? quote:“And the children will certainly have no rivals for my attention,” he continued as we walked down a rather long hall on the ground floor. “After years of marriage my wife has proven barren, and my few companions were unable to produce offspring of more than Middle talent. None of the women was a High herself, of course, which certainly made the difference.” Or this?! quote:“We’ll be taking our meal in the small dining room,” he said after a moment instead, obviously trying to maintain his good mood. “Afterward we’ll socialize a short while just to be polite, but then we’ll send our guests home and retire to your bedchamber. I’m quite looking forward to beginning the first of our … association.” Can we please, for the love of the Highest Aspect, have these moments of internal reflection actually placed in the right place in the prose to go with the action happening in the scene quote:A short way down the hall there were double doors standing open, and as we approached I could hear music being played and voices in conversation rising slightly above the music. This is 31 words of bad description. Let me rewrite it in 30 seconds: "Gentle music drifted through the opened double doors ahead of us. A minuet, with a lilting, triple-beat melody that urged my feet to dance across the remainder of the hallway. But the notes sounded tentative, as if the players dared not disturb the boisterous male voices in their conversation." quote:When we turned into the room, I learned Lanir’s definition of a “small” dining room: a table to the right, large enough to seat twelve people comfortably; a beautifully decorated sitting area to the left, with enough couches and chairs to accommodate more than twelve; and a dais at the back of the room, holding a six-piece orchestra. When we appeared, the people standing about talking—five men and five … girls rather than women—all turned from their conversation to us. I am disappointed that an erotica author did not go for the dirty innuendo right there. quote:Everyone including the man Fasher laughed at that, all but one young girl who stared at me wide-eyed instead. She was a pretty little thing, but more importantly she was someone with a Low talent in Fire magic—who also happened to be touching the power. Her hand reached out tentatively to the man she stood beside, probably to tell him about what she could feel of my strength, so I quickly locked eyes with her and shook my head slightly. Her hand immediately returned to her side as she obeyed my silent command to say nothing, but that incident added itself to my list of worries. She’d agreed to be silent, but how long would that agreement last? I have so many questions. Why was this girl touching the power? There's no good reason for her to be doing so, especially when everything we've seen points to the general population, including the nobility, are so strongly conditioned against touching the power that they don't do it even when they would be expected to. quote:“I’m told that it was business rather than your lovely little toy which kept you,” another of the men said to Lanir as the man beside me began to lead the group toward the beautifully set table. “Everyone seems to be in a dither about something, but no one is willing to discuss details.” At least Green tried to disguise the convenient recap info dumping as butler/maid dialogue this time. There's no reason why any of these people, who are supposedly very powerful Lords, would be talking like this. quote:Those who had made … accommodations with Adriari’s group want the chance to do the same with another picked group, while those, like you, who dislike the interruption in business or the cost of another round of competitions, want the annoyance at an end.” Hello theme. quote:The creamed soup was excellent, which helped me do something with my mouth other than telling off the fool of a man to my right. It would have been different if I’d actually had to have the man’s children, of course, but since I would be leaving that place in just a few hours, it wasn’t difficult to keep quiet. Or not too difficult. Now that I knew one of the reasons the nobility had so few High talents, it would have been pleasant to point out the stupidity. It would have been different if your author would let you do things that are consistent with your character. quote:In another group my remaining silent might have been noticed, but in that one I simply blended in. None of the other women said even a single word, and the men ignored them as though they weren’t there. Women in that group were obviously no more than decorations, no more than the “toys” one of the men had referred to earlier. That arrangement annoyed me as well, but it was something I didn’t want to do something about. Because you're a horrible human being. Or at least, that's what I assume, since we have no internal narration of Tamrissa's angst at the other women in the same plight. quote:The girl with the Low talent in Fire magic … Because Tamrissa will never give this specific girl a second thought, ever again. quote:The topic of conversation shifted again with the next course, which was a deliciously sweet pate with shredded radishes. Talk of new houses and the newest “in” places to build them had barely been started, when a servant appeared at Lanir’s side. Lanir ignored him while completing a remark, and only then turned his head to the servant and nodded. Canapes and now pate. Have I erred? Are we meant to be in an even more vague French-inspired setting instead of fantasy regency? quote:Lanir went back to his conversation about houses, a secret smile curving his lips. Whatever preparation he’d made for my father’s visit were obviously going to remain his secret for a while, which suited me just as well. With the choice between Lanir and my father, I couldn’t decide whose side to be on. I took a hot, buttered roll and bit into it, and with the last bite the servant Bowes reappeared, leading the visitor. Again, Storn Torgar is supposed to be a highly experienced and very savvy business person. quote:“Lord Lanir, how good of you to receive me,” he offered, his attitude saying he spoke to a near equal. A very savvy business person in an Empire which is run by the nobility. quote:“I apologize for interrupting your dinner, but the matter is rather urgent. As soon as we’re in agreement, I’ll be on my way again.” Stop. Writing. Characters. Like. This. quote:“Do you hear that, Torgar?” Lanir said to my father, who had gone absolutely expressionless. “They’re all on your side, so let’s hear what sort of offer you’re prepared to make.” you can't just use "gentlemen" in the modern sense of the word when you're in faux regency fantasy. quote:“As you seem to prefer a public negotiation instead, I can do nothing other than oblige you. The girl is my daughter so my claim to her supersedes yours, but I’m prepared to be reasonable. A thousand gold dins if I walk out of here with her right now.” If only we had any context for how much this is. How much does Jovvi have socked away in Tamrissa's house? How much would Tamrissa's house fetch on the open market? We have no idea! quote:I couldn’t keep from blinking at that, obviously having had no real idea just how desperate my father was to get me back. I’d noticed that Odrin Hallasser hadn’t come with him, which wasn’t a good sign where my father was concerned. The horrible beast of a man must have ordered my father to retrieve me or else … For the first time I wondered what that “or else” might entail. I don't know how I am supposed to feel as a reader after reading this paragraph. Is it trying to convey something about Odrin, Storn, or Tamrissa? A good paragraph would do all three, but this does nothing. quote:“Really, my good man, how can you say that?” Lank drawled as his friends laughed. “The young lady hasn’t even finished her dinner as yet. Do you really expect me to turn her out hungry?” This is a highly experienced and very savvy business person who has supposedly built his own wealth through powerful networking and profitable, highly leveraged, borderline illegal business deals. quote:“Well, now we have an offer of two thousand,” Lanir said, again speaking mostly to his friends. “He really seems to dislike the idea of her having dinner, but I find myself curious. Tell me, peasant: just how high are you prepared to go in order to spirit her away from my beard? Stop playing the merchant for a moment, and pretend to be a man. What is the absolutely highest figure you’re prepared to offer?” Now I'm pretty sure Green has no idea how high stakes negotiations work. And I do not buy that Storn, who must have negotiated hundreds of similar deals, is going to fumble one like this. quote:“Oooo, now the peasant is threatening me,” Lanir said, his bad pretense of being frightened causing his friends to laugh even harder. “He offers a sum that only a child would find impressive, then expects me to believe that any court in this city would find in his favor rather than in mine. You’re obviously a fool, peasant, so I really ought to be gentle with you. You’ve named your highest price, but haven’t yet asked me to name one. Would you like to try that before you go storming off to court?” An actually good idea for characterization, killed in the delivery. quote:“If it’s amusement you’re looking for, peasant, my offer should suit you perfectly,” Lanir said, a glitter of cruel anticipation in his eyes. “In order for me to even consider what you’re asking, you must first put forth your proposal in the proper manner. If you’ll turn about, you’ll see a box on that table to the right of the door. Go and put on what you find inside the box, and then we’ll be able to continue this discussion.” Why didn't this experience show up before? quote:“You said you would ‘consider listening’ if I did things your way,” he remembered aloud, speaking to a patiently waiting Lanir. “Nothing about accepting my offer, just an agreement to consider it. I really would be a fool if I went along with this, so you can save this outfit for yourself. Specifically for when you find out that there are others with influence in the courts beside yourself.” ...THIS is what Green thinks years of experience looks like? quote:He threw the motley away without watching to see where it would land, and simply stalked out of the room. Lanir’s friends were all still laughing, their companions dutifully giggling along with them, but Lanir shook his head with a sigh. I'm so confused about the tone of this whole scene. Is Tamrissa feeling sympathy for her father, or is she delighting in his suffering at the hands of a bigger bully? This is a good opportunity to have an important character moment, yet we are getting nothing. quote:“If he’d put that thing on and only then found out you had no intention of giving the girl up, he might have done something foolish like trying to attack you. From the way he behaved, I doubt he knows who you are.” Here, have a pointed reminder in case you forgot, since we've had to read so many terrible chapters since the last reminder. quote:Servants reappeared with steaming dishes holding the next course, so once again I was helped to keep from commenting. Assuming Lanir turned out to be reasonable later and I was able to leave without interference, I intended to see if it was possible to return at the time of the next challenge. The man deserved to lose his place publicly, and being defeated by a woman would add insult to injury. You're devoting more energy to revenge fantasies about coming back to put this creep in his place instead of trying to rescue the "poor girl"? quote:I spent the rest of the meal dreaming about proper revenge, and once we retired to the sitting area I went back to that very pleasant pastime. Seriously, someone write an AU fic where Tamrissa is the villain. quote:Lanir had one of the servants put on the discarded motley, and then he and his friends made the man dance around the way court fools were supposed to have done when there were kings and their courts running the world. Men who were very proficient in their respective aspect were called knights, which is where the phrase, “knight in shining aspect” comes from. I’m not sure how “shining” they were, but today’s Highs are supposed to be their equivalent. is this random bit of world building exposition doing here? Also "knight in shining aspect" is the lamest attempt at adapting the real world expression. quote:After the lordly nobles finished with their amusement, Lanir gave his friends a final glass of wine and then sent them home. I'm imagining Lanir handing out wine glasses like parents hand out party bags/favors at a kids' birthday party once everybody's done with cake. quote:None of them seemed surprised at being all but thrown out, nor were they insulted. They left laughing and joking with one another, and then Lanir turned to me. STOP IT. There is no suspense whatsoever. We've been reminded THREE TIMES in this chapter that Lanir isn't as strong as Tamrissa. Summary: Day 23 (?) Tamrissa/Rion/Vallant regains consciousness and discovers she's/he's been taken as concubine/captive/sex slave by Lord Lanir, the Seated High in Fire/Hallina Mardimill, his adoptive mother/Eltrina Razas. He/she drops a bunch of exposition about how he's/she's mind-slaved her/him and forbidden her/him to use her/his talent ever again with Puredan/jerk himself off. Except it doesn't work, since Naran, the greatest programmer of all time, discovered the secret to avoid becoming anybody's mind-slave in the last book—namely, they just need to be ordered to never obey any other orders ever again. One afternoon chilling out in a gaudy bedroom later, and Tamrissa's got all her mental faculties and her talent back. During dinner, she is forced to experience an Obvious Plot Recap as well as her father's own humiliation from Lord Lanir. Meanwhile, Rion and Vallant are both dudes in distress, holding on for a hero. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 50 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil Book 4: Fasher, Wirn, Bowes TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 31 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 33 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 119 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 56 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 34 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 114 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 67 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 68 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 36 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 22 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 13, including 3 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 1 in Book 4, which is a rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: I don't understand how Green keeps setting up perfectly reasonable structures and screwing up the execution. The issues here are all at the line level:
What's striking is that the setup is not really much more complicated than the world building in the Blendingverse. But geez, what a difference having a competent author in charge of writing the prose makes.
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# ? Jul 19, 2022 11:27 |
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Leng posted:I'm so confused about the tone of this whole scene. Is Tamrissa feeling sympathy for her father, or is she delighting in his suffering at the hands of a bigger bully? This is a good opportunity to have an important character moment, yet we are getting nothing. Me too. Tamrissa never misses a chance to get up on a high horse and tell us how it is, how is that absent in this scene? This is a whole chapter I actually want her opinions on!
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# ? Jul 21, 2022 00:33 |
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quote:CHAPTER FIVE Hello, lobotomized Delin. The only thing more overpowered than Earth magic is Spirit magic...or at least, a High in Spirit magic. I am endlessly frustrated by the world building and plot holes in this setup. There could have been a fascinating storyline behind the invention of Puredan as a protective measure/counteroffensive for non-Spirit magic talented people. An empire where the use of talent is magically suppressed that doesn't also adopt a completely isolationist policy should have been overrun by aggressive neighbors like spoilers for Books 6-8 Gracely, especially when the Seated Blendings for the last three quarters of a century are weak Middle figureheads and Book 6 spoilers this is a widely known fact to the assembly members in Gracely, or spoilers for Book 5 infitrated by spies from Astindan border clans (tribes?) the moment the not-so-secret Gandistran army started marching and conquering stretches of Astindan territory and therefore destroyed by a stealth operation that takes out the army's leadership, who are of course, Lows and Middles not to mention that literally the only defense against being put under Spirit magic control in the canon books is book 8 spoilers be extremely stubborn OMFG. quote:“Ah, Kambil, you’re back,” Bron said after looking up. “How did it go? Did you learn anything?” Be a more nuanced character, maybe? Would it kill Green to consider giving her characters distinct tics? quote:“Does that mean we still aren’t to be allowed into the palace?” Selendi asked. “They have a lot of nerve keeping us out after we won the competitions.” Still not seeing why you guys can't march on into the palace. Even if you didn't win that last bout, most of the nobility and the city have spent days watching you wield fearsome elemental powers to win the rest of your matches. quote:“Don’t forget that we were helped to win, my sweet,” Homin told her with a chuckle. “That means they think we owe them something. But I take it Zolind is still being difficult?” I don't understand why you have to do anything as a Blending. Clearly Kambil has no issues with mind puppeting four people already and we will never see anything in terms of an upper limit for how many people can be under a Spirit magic user's control, or any Spirit magic user struggling to put anybody under control, or keep them under control, ever. They just reach out to the power, do the magical equivalent of "abracadabra, control" and hey presto, they have a mind slave who stays mind-slaved until that command is disrupted. Send Kambil around to visit all of the Advisors right before the full Advisory meeting and we're done with this stupid plot. Or if that's too much work, just have Kambil puppet Zolind around during the meeting. quote:“He can’t, so he’s ours as soon as we reach him,” Selendi said happily, tightening her grip on Homin’s hand. “And since no one will remember that we left and then returned, he’ll even have provided us with witnesses to support our innocence.” ...and people would BUY this? When we've had pages and pages of exposition that no High talent who was ever sent for testing comes back? And no mention of what happened to the outgoing Seated Blending prior to this one? quote:“Is that why you had me check on the abandoned quarry ten miles beyond the far side of the city?” Bron asked, sudden understanding coloring his expression. “I remember thinking that properly weighted bodies thrown into the water would never come to the surface again—at least until the water had turned them completely unrecognizable. Is that where you intend to put them?” ...way to wield that sledgehammer of exposition. quote:“And even if they are, we’ll have been Seated by then,” Selendi said with the satisfaction they all obviously felt. “We’ll also have made good progress in ridding ourselves of anyone who might be willing to use the discovery against us, so we’ll be doubly protected. When are we going to begin, and what do you have planned for Zolind?” A mysterious disappearance here or there would go unremarked. Half of the upper echelons of the nobility running the empire disappearing is not suspicious, it's a bloody warning siren. It's things like this that make me confused about what purpose the antagonist viewpoints are supposed to serve. Are we supposed to empathize with them? Are we supposed to fear for the city or the empire? I'm really not sure what the intended emotional impact here is, other than frustration at the fact that these doofuses are still sitting around drinking tea having a meeting to discuss terrible ideas instead of DOING actual things. quote:“I have something rather… complex in mind for our friend Zolind, and we’ll begin about an hour before dinnertime,” Kambil replied, letting his own satisfaction show through. “He always has dinner guests, which means our little production will have an adequate audience. I’ll tell you the plan, and then you can all criticize it for flaws.” I'm convinced Homin is a totally different character to the one we originally met. Isn't Spirit magic handy, for not having to think about writing your characters consistently? quote:“What do you mean, ‘would have’?” Bron countered with a snort. “If he wasn’t whining about being left out of things, I’ve never heard the sound. This way we have his strength and talent in the Blending, but otherwise don’t have to put up with his feebleminded insanity. I miss the smooth, Mr. Charming, sociopath Delin we were introduced to as an antagonist originally. quote:So what are we going to be doing to Zolind?” Make Grammi the real antagonist. This is far more compelling than anything else I've read. Also this is about the point where you should realize that Book 5 spoilers Kambil is under his grandmother's control too which is a legitimately great idea by Green that is, of course, lost in amongst all of the dull prose and so if your mind blurred as you skimmed over the words, you are in good company. I totally missed this my first time through because I was too busy trying to not fall asleep. quote:And Kambil had found the technique ridiculously easy to work with when they’d done his three Blendingmates. Their dysfunctional personalities had been pushed aside and overshadowed by calm, rational pseudo-egos, none of which could really be considered fully normal, but ones which were easily led and manipulated. The three subjects loved what they called their new selves, of course; what they had no idea about was the fact that they weren’t permitted to do anything but love them. No, Green will never explore the horrific implications of her magic system in any sort of depth. quote:Their ability to function in the group had been increased, though, so Kambil was serious about consulting their opinions. I have no idea why, because none of the three displayed any sort of glimmer of intelligence and just because you managed to override their personalities doesn't mean you were also able to gift them with additional powers of observation or the ability to think logically or laterally. quote:The four of them discussed Zolind’s coming demise for quite some time, until Kambil announced that he’d arranged for a late-afternoon bite to eat. The interim meal would hold them until they returned to the house, and then they would dine long and well. Oh hey, here's a great opportunity to dive into what this means! It matches up with the theme and everything! quote:But simple revenge would have to wait until more pressing matters were attended to. Kambil sat back at the end of the meal to study his people, for the most part satisfied with what he’d accomplished. That excuse his father had been given about why he’d been put into a Blending … Despite the care Kambil usually took to keep from frightening those he came in contact with, someone had seen through the facade and had become frightened anyway. Whoever it was had to have a respectable amount of power, and so was a dangerous enemy. As soon as Zolind and the current Blending—and certain of the rest of the Advisors—were seen to, Kambil would make it his business to identify the person, and then he would give the man his thanks for almost having ruined his life. Oh okay. We're just gonna retcon everything we knew about Kambil, and turn him into a super sinister operator that we've had no inkling of, even though we've had many Kambil POVs before. Right, carry on. quote:Once the meal was over everyone separated to prepare for the outing, Delin being taken care of by two of the servants. And they're NOT gonna be suspicious over this mentally vacant shell of a person who probably resembles somebody who's burned out? quote:Their group tended toward brightly colored clothing, which simply would not do for their current undertaking. Not being noticed was more easily accomplished when people had drabness to overlook, and Kambil’s groupmates never questioned the need to make things easier for him. That was one definite benefit which made up for the bother of having to be in charge. And suddenly changing into uncharacteristically nondescript clothing is not gonna be suspicious at all either? quote:When all five of them had reassembled in the hall, Kambil switched Delin over to simply being under control, then he initiated the Blending. Uh, what. You're just gonna Blend right here, in your nondescription "we are totally doing something not illegal" clothing, in the middle of the hall of your residence that is most definitely being monitored. quote:Their entity formed at once, of course, and proved to be almost completely stable despite Delin’s … buried desire to rage, might it be called? Somewhere beneath all the control and passivity was the angrily terrified Delin personality, hating what had been and was being done to him. The choice to describe Delin here as simply a "personality" is...an interesting one. quote:But Delin had never been able to resist being taken advantage of, and now was no exception. this is horrifying on multiple levels. quote:After a moment his part of the entity settled down, and then their combined talents were able to search out and affect every member of the guard force around the residence. The guardsmen would continue to remain alert, but would see nothing of the five as they left and returned. Again, how is personal security not a MASSIVE BUSINESS in the Blendingverse? How is there not an entire industry built around Spirit magic based espionage, countermeasures, counter-countermeasures, and counter-counter-countermeasures? quote:Then it became simply a matter of their walking out to the coach Kambil had arranged for earlier. The driver would be seen to later by the Blending, after Zolind and the Five were taken care of. Kambil had no idea how long their practiced group could remain Blended before its strength was completely drained, and now was not the time to experiment. If you guys are supposedly so practiced, how the hell do you not already know this? quote:After they were securely Seated there would be time enough; for now, he kept their Blending separated when there was no real need of it. or just maybe don't take a recognizable coach? Or do, but one that should actually be there? quote:Delin stirred uncomfortably where he sat on the floor of the coach, which told Kambil that the man’s position needed to be shifted. The movement meant the man’s body was in pain, and pain would detract from what he added to the Blending. For that reason Kambil had Selendi trade places with Delin, as she was the smallest of them despite her skirts. The exchange of places was made without argument, of course, and then they were able to Blend again. We already know that Kambil absolutely controls everything now, thanks, we didn't need this too. quote:The entity floated to the large house and inside, locating Zolind after a few minutes in the salon beside the large dining room. It was clear not all of the Advisor’s guests had arrived yet, and that despite the fact that almost twenty people stood about sipping wine. Zolind himself drank only tea, Highest Aspect forfend, the tea compulsion extends to the very highest ranks of the nobility. quote:but never insisted that his guests do the same. The conversation was much too desultory, however, so the entity touched one of the men immediately around Zolind with a suggestion. ...and nobody is gonna find this completely out of character? quote:“My dear fellow, you can’t be serious,” the portly man protested, again at the urging of the entity. “Adriari and her group are gone, and these others have won the competitions. You can’t simply discount that just because they aren’t the group you favored.” I... Quite apart from the jawdropping levels of wooden pantomime of plot happening here, did Green just decide to use the phrase "thawing the attention"? What does that even mean? I can't even. quote:Those immediately around him had remained silent, trying to disassociate themselves from the portly man who was so rash as to disagree with Zolind. The entity felt their disturbance clearly, and made no attempt to change it. I hate all the entity POVs. This prose has all the appeal of dead, rotting roadkill. quote:“I can do anything I please, including rejecting people I imply cannot stomach!” Zolind growled forcefully, glaring it the portly man. Did Zolind suddenly turn into a dog while I wasn't looking? That's an awful lot of growling he should probably get checked out. quote:“That Delin Moord is one of them, and I’ve become convinced that Moord is the one responsible for Ollon’s death. Someone has to be responsible, someone has to pay! Do you have any idea how much I miss—” There you go. That's our one instance of a non-het relationship in these books represented. quote:“You have our sympathy, of course, my friend, but you must be reasonable,” the portly man was made to say gently after a moment. “If the winning Five isn’t Seated, the commoner leaders will want to know why. Telling them that someone has to pay for Ollon’s death won’t satisfy them, not when there’s no actual proof that it was this Moord fellow. And you don’t have actual proof, do you?” The complex solution is "cause a scene to make Zolind really mad, mad enough that nobody will question his random unfiltered baldly-stated outbursts of raw motivations or that he supposedly gave himself a heart attack". Not really complex enough to meet the definition of the word, but yeah, given the low, low bar that's been set in the books so far, I'll pay it. quote:“He’s dead!” the portly man announced in a shocked whisper as he struggled to straighten up. “He’s dead, and I feel responsible!” Pretty sure it's in the same place that Green keeps her revision notes. quote:Others joined the speculation as servants were called to attend to the body, and the most uniform emotion the group shared was an air of disappointment. The entity perceived that Zolind’s guests disliked the idea of no longer being an intimate of so important a man, although “intimate” wasn’t precisely the right word. Zolind had been really close to no one but Ollon Kapmar; the rest had been all but faceless company for a man who had disliked dining alone. I wonder what would happen if you dissolved the Blending away from its members' bodies. Like does everybody become a mindless husk, except for the Spirit magic user, because their out-of-body experience is something that is possibly only thanks to Spirit magic? (No we will never find out.) quote:He joined the others in taking a deep breath to celebrate their first success, then rapped on the coach roof to signal the driver to get them away from there. There was still one further chore to be done tonight, and then they would be able to return to the residence to eat and rest. Tomorrow … well, that remained to be seen, depending on whether or not the rest of the Advisors held their meeting, or attended the farewell ceremony for Zolind. Still confused on why you needed to kill Zolind instead of just...taking control of him right when you guys won, which would have allowed you to install yourselves in the palace immediately after your aided victory. Summary: Day 23 (?) Tamrissa/Rion/Vallant regains consciousness and discovers she's/he's been taken as concubine/captive/sex slave by Lord Lanir, the Seated High in Fire/Hallina Mardimill, his adoptive mother/Eltrina Razas. He/she drops a bunch of exposition about how he's/she's mind-slaved her/him and forbidden her/him to use her/his talent ever again with Puredan/jerk himself off. Except it doesn't work, since Naran, the greatest programmer of all time, discovered the secret to avoid becoming anybody's mind-slave in the last book—namely, they just need to be ordered to never obey any other orders ever again. One afternoon chilling out in a gaudy bedroom later, and Tamrissa's got all her mental faculties and her talent back. During dinner, she is forced to experience an Obvious Plot Recap as well as her father's own humiliation from Lord Lanir. Meanwhile, Rion and Vallant are both dudes in distress, holding on for a hero. Kambil and his mind slaves stake out Zolind's dinner party and puppet him around to a super lame script, in which Zolind lets loose about how he's really mad that Delin killed his lover, Ollon, and that's why he'll never Seat any Blending with Delin in it. After this incredibly on the nose forced villain monologue, Kambil and co kill Zolind via a heart attack and leave, very chuffed with themselves. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 50 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil Book 4: Fasher, Wirn, Bowes TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 31 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 34 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch, a late afternoon bite, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 121 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 57 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 35 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 114 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 67 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 70 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 36 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 23 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 13, including 3 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 1 in Book 4, which is a rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: This book, or at least the first third of it, should have been Rion struggling to free himself from being dragged back into his former life. But since Hallina Mardimil is so well-connected, he should be able to get in to all of noble dinner parties so he can get his Sherlock on and find out where the others are, as well as all the mysterious disappearances of the Advisors and high-ranked nobility that are about to happen. What a great idea for a fantasy thriller! I would totally read an entire book of Rion trying to escape, learning how to politick and using his newfound knowledge of sex being a thing to discover all the clues he needs to reunite his Blending, and then just as he's figured out everything he needs to rescue his Blendingmates, he stumbles across Kambil's far more sinister machinations that threaten to literally plunge the empire into Chaos. Sorry guys, that's not where Green's going. Book 4 is headed to way less exciting places.
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# ? Aug 2, 2022 02:49 |
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quote:CHAPTER SIX Real charmer, this guy. quote:I expected to have most of the day with you today, not realizing that I would be called away on business. Don’t bother ringing for a maid. Helping you out of that gown will be my pleasure.” And again, I submit that this doesn't make any sense. How vigorously was said shaking? Especially when they were wearing said underwear? And how was this shaking LESS vigorous than the shaking that had to have occurred when they actually put the underwear on? Seriously, they should have knocked themselves out in the waiting room. quote:“That’s what’s usually done, although it’s never been necessary in the final round before.” In case you're curious, this "Raise your lips to mine" line appears in like, every Green book in every dubcon/noncon sex scene ever. Verbatim. quote:“For what purpose?” I asked, flatly refusing to let my voice tremble. “I may be prepared to say goodbye to you and this vile place, but that doesn’t necessarily call for a kiss.” Tamrissa, you are terrible at interrogation. quote:“Are you trying to tease me?” he asked, his tone less than pleased. “If you are because you think I might enjoy it, allow me to assure you that you’re wrong. Denial is not my idea of enjoyment, and can only bring you punishment. Although how the need for punishment can be possible after the orders you’ve been given …” The sensing of magical strength only goes one way apparently. No Highs ever have a hard time telling the difference between a Low, a Middle and a High, but every Low and Middle trying to describe someone of a strength level above them just jaw drops and goes "oh they're SO UNBELIEVABLY STRONG!" So the only reason nobody is running around calling Lanir and any of the Seated Highs or even the Seated Blending out is not just because of the general suppression of use of talent, but also because apparently nobody other than a High (and the Guild) can actually tell the difference between a Middle and a High. No, why the Guild is complicit in all of this is never explained, and it SHOULD BE because not all Guild talents are nobles. quote:His scream interrupted before I could suggest the price of my silence, and then there were flames all around, trying to burn me to cinders. My defenses had automatically flared into being an instant before the attack, which in this case meant no more than simply keeping the ravening fire at a distance. Lanir just wasn’t strong enough to overwhelm me, So I smiled faintly through the flickering evidence of his fear-filled anger. This ebook has been proofread extremely well. quote:“You can see that that isn’t doing you a bit of good,” I pointed out gently. “If you’re wise you’ll be reasonable about letting me go, but first you’ll have to convince me that you intend to keep to any bargain we happen to make, have no reason to trust you and every reason not to, so—” The way this is punctuated drives me insane. Why is the em dash appearing between "ash" and the exclamation mark? I'm 80% certain that you would not include the exclamation mark like this, but I am not an expert on the Chicago Manual of Style so Can any editors in the thread enlighten us? quote:And then his eyes widened with his effort, an effort I understood only after a very long moment. The fool was ignoring his limits and trying to take in enough power to match me, which meant he really was insane. Middles weren’t able to step past that natural block— Nope, we'll never get any explanation about this "natural block" and why it exists. I can only conclude it's because of Green's position. quote:His third and last scream shook me so badly that I stumbled back, narrowly missing a collision with a table. Along with the scream had come the abrupt severing of Lanir’s touch on the power, followed by the man’s sitting down hard on the carpeted floor. By then he had stopped screaming, and I didn’t need to see his black, fixed stare to know what had happened. He’d forced himself past his natural stopping place, and had burned himself out for his trouble. A fate so horrible that has normal people like Lorand traumatized for life doesn't bother Tamrissa. At all. quote:but the screaming he’d done did. How soon would people come rushing in to see what had happened? And when they came, would I be able to protect myself from them? I wasn’t sure, not when I didn’t know how many there would be and what they would be capable of…. The answer is yes, very much yes, because you know, you can just SET FIRE TO THE HOUSE. quote:Trying to still the trembling of my hands occupied me for a few minutes, and then I began to wonder why no one had appeared yet. Surely someone had heard the screams, no matter how big that house was, so why hadn’t they—The question died as the answer came so abruptly that I was suddenly enraged. No one had come after hearing the screams because they thought I was the one doing the screaming. They must have been very used to their employer’s way of enjoying himself…. Everyone in this household must be deaf if they can't tell the difference between a man screaming and a woman screaming. quote:That realization calmed me completely, so familiar was it. My husband had run the same sort of household, and now Lanir would soon be in the same condition as my husband. That idea seemed so beautifully right that I turned in the chair to look at Lanir, seeing again the way he sat and stared and drooled. When they found him they would put him down, making no effort to preserve an empty husk. The man who had been was no longer housed in that body, so what was the sense in keeping it alive? Sections like these are the worst. This should be an awful, PTSD triggering memory for Tamrissa, and we're getting none of the visceral, emotional horror, just this bland narration. quote:I went to the tea service then to discover that it had been refilled with fresh tea, so I helped myself and spent some time simply sitting and sipping. Because nothing quite like a cup of TEA to aid in raping an unwilling woman I just can't even what is this doing here quote:I had to wait until the household had settled down for the night before I could leave, so there was no rush to go and start and do. What I would eventually do was walk away into the night, even though I had no idea where I was or where I would go. This would actually be some good character development for Tamrissa! quote:Lanir had claimed not to know where my groupmates were, but I still had to find them…. Really? Why? She's equally capable of burning herself out too. quote:Thinking about Eltrina Razas became planning a way to reach her, which brought me to the subject of a coach or carriage. I’d have to hire one, of course, even if Lanir had his own stables and coach house. Women just didn’t go driving all by themselves in that city, and doing it anyway would simply get me noticed. But I had no money … The thought of going disguised as a servant girl doesn't even occur to her. I guess that's in character so I should be giving Green points here. Too bad Jovvi never confided in Tamrissa about all that gold stashed inside that statue at her house! quote:After putting my cup down, I rose and walked over to Lanir where he still sat on the carpeting. The stain on his trousers—added to the terrible smell that seemed to be all around him—suggested he’d lost control of his bodily functions, but his wallet still lay securely around his waist and untouched by any effluvia. I bent carefully and unbuckled then carried it back to my chair. Since the former Seated High had brought me to a place I never wanted to be, he could just pay to have me driven away again. His wallet contained a really fat purse, which in turn contained quite a bit of gold and silver. I don't know what it is about the way Green has written this that puts me in the mind of looting NPC corpses after a D&D encounter. quote:Discovering that sent me on a search of the room, to see if I might find any sort of handbag. The wardrobe was empty of everything, including the dress I’d worn earlier in the day, which I found rather confusing. If I’d been meant to live in that room, why would there be nothing of clothing for me? The possibility I eventually came up with made me sneer in Lanir’s direction. He could well have meant to keep me in a nightdress—or naked—to be certain that running away was impossible, possibly as women before me had done, That said quite a lot about him as a man, making him some-one who held women with restraints rather than with kindness or enticements. Lanir's awfully confident he's gonna be able to knock her up before she gets her next period. quote:Was there anyone—other than his cronies in the government—who would mourn his passing? I thought it unlikely as I turned away from my search with nothing to show for the effort. There was no handbag and nothing to use in place of one, which meant that I would have to tie the purse to my underskirts after taking out a few silver dins. Am surprised that we don't get a description of her shoving the silver dins down her cleavage. quote:Showing gold would bring trouble of its own if the wrong people saw it, and I’d certainly have trouble enough without adding to it. Anxiety to leave that place had begun to grow inside me, but I forced myself to have one final cup of tea before making the attempt. It had been at least two hours since Lanir had brought me back to that room, and by now all the servants should have retired. I’d find out soon enough if they hadn’t, but that final cup of tea would lessen the chance of an unpleasant encounter. Okay, I actually have to increment the tea counter twice now. quote:When the time finally— came to leave, I took one last glance around the bedchamber and then walked to the door. Lanir hadn’t looked it, I’d noticed at the very beginning, Real stellar proofreading going on here. quote:but I’d still taken a small ring of keys from his wallet as well as the gold and silver. If the servants were all in bed, the house ought to be completely locked up. I had no intention of creeping heart-stoppingly all the way to the door, only to find it locked with something other than a slide bolt. And I did end up virtually creeping through the dark halls, my heart pounding heavily in my ears. I felt certain that no one in that house would have been able to stop me, but the idea of running into someone still caused my heart to pound and my mouth to go dry. You are unable to release the power. You have worked out your system of magical radar based on body heat, including being able to differentiate between people who are awake and people who are asleep. At this point, you are capable of being Snake in Metal Gear Solid with the Soliton Radar mini map: There is no reason why you would not immediately know the relative positions and mental alertness of every person inside the building, and probably outside as well, depending on what a typical range is for a High talent in Fire. quote:Most of me wanted to run to get out of there, and only the knowledge that I’d certainly have a long distance to go before I found a coach or carriage kept me from wasting my physical strength. Seriously this should not be a surprise to you! Why are you not using the magical skill you've developed!? quote:They sat in a small room drinking tea, Three times in one chapter! quote:looking completely bored as they waited for something. The bell arrangements on the far wall suggested what they were waiting for: a summons from the lord of the house, I tiptoed past the partially open door and then hurried my search, not knowing whether they were simply on duty for the entire night—or awaiting a definite summons. If Lanir was expected to ring for them, how long would it be before they went to investigate his continued silence …? A good plan, but what are you going to do with the keys? Somebody's gonna be pretty suspicious that Lanir doesn't have his keys. (I just finished writing a heist sequence yesterday, which involved a lot of thinking about how I was going to have my characters get away cleanly. And figuring out what to do with the key they had stolen was one of the problems.) quote:That line of logic wasn’t a very strong one, but I clung to the hope of it as I made my way along the footpath which led away from that side door. It was very dark out and rather chilly in the lacy gown I still wore, but a bit of moonlight was available to help me move carefully along the footpath. Happily no one had added gravel to make it look better— and be more treacherous and noisy, footing-wise—but I still couldn’t move as fast as I wanted to. Falling and twisting an ankle—or worse—would have been the end of everything, so I simply had to go rather slowly. What is this footpath made out of? Serious question here. This is more descriptive detail than we've ever gotten before, and it's actually relevant to the plot! quote:Leaving the vicinity of the house didn’t bring me that much closer to a main road or street. The footpath paralleled a long drive ranging off into the darkness, a drive which seemed to go on forever. I trudged along the footpath, wishing I could walk the hard-packed earth of the drive instead, but that would have made me much too visible. Being in that gown was bad enough, considering the tiny sequins sewn all over both the skirt and bodice. If lamps were brought close the sequins would certainly gleam the way they were meant to do, making me completely visible. I needed to be able to hide behind a large tree, and trees were closer to the footpath than to the drive. Walking along like that gave me far too much time to think, as the thought uppermost in my mind was how far I would have to go before I would be able to find a coach or carriage. Many public stables had carriages for hire, but how many of them would be open at that time of night? And when I finally did reach the main road, which way should I go? Turning right when the proper direction was left could have me walking for the rest of the night without finding what I needed— I don't understand how a tense escape sequence can be so boring. quote:I stopped dead as my latest glance up from watching where I put my feet showed me something other than empty woods. A large, dark shadow stood about thirty feet ahead, motionless at the side of the drive. The outline of the shadow suggested that it was a coach, and once I’d noticed that I could also hear the faint jingle of horses in harness. I’d been wishing rather fervently for a coach, but not for a moment did I believe that some beneficial superbeing had heard my wish and granted it. You're pretty close though, because spoilers for 3 paragraphs ahead: it's Naran and spoilers for Book 5 she can See the future so... quote:Fear tried to wrap its hands around my throat and middle, but anger rose too swiftly to let that happen. I hadn’t come through everything just to walk into the waiting hands of another enemy, not when my touch on the power was as firm and sure as ever. Lank The number of typos in this chapter is ridiculous. quote:hadn’t had to face my flames, but whoever lay in wait to trap me certainly wouldn’t be that fortunate. I hadn’t even produced a small fire to light my way along the footpath, just to be certain that I had enough strength in case of something like this…. Tamrissa is seriously unhinged. quote:when I noticed the human figure which had appeared beside the vehicle. The figure was engaged in pacing back and forth along the drive, and even more importantly it was female. Some woman waited there, and one who was certainly not tall enough to be either Eltrina Razas or my mother. A small woman, then, and one whose fingers moved nervously about each other…. Please never use that phrase ever again. quote:whirled around in what seemed to be fright. Her case of nerves was apparently twice or three times worse than mine, and when she saw me she raised her skins and actually ran to meet me. Spoilers for Books 5 onwards: the way Naran's Sight works is super vague and I hate it, because it just turns into this stupid plot device for whenever Green can't be bothered to actually plot good quote:“Well, now I’m here so everything’s all right,” I soothed her, returning her hug. It felt so strange, me soothing someone else’s fright… “But how did you find me? Even I don’t know where I am.” Actually well done foreshadowing/book 5 spoilers red herring! Because when you first read this and then get through the next set of chapters in this escape sequence, you think "aha! It's because Naran's got connections to the secret commoner rebel organization" but really, it's because she Saw it. quote:I also know where Rion and Vallant are, but they can’t escape without help. They’re still under the influence of a horrible drug that affects both their talent and their bodies. You’re the only one who has gotten free, so you’re the one who has to help them.” This is so 1990s fantasy it hurts. quote:“Well, I’d already decided to find the others… But what about Jovvi and Lorand? If you found the rest of us …” Yeah, so book 5 spoilers Naran doesn't know how her talent works either. quote:but—Let’s get into the coach, and I’ll explain where Rion and Vallant are.” 4 books in and I still have no clue what the city looks like or how it's laid out or what kind of districts exist within it. That's...that's really bad. Significant locations should be treated and developed like important characters. quote:“Do you mean she actually managed to get him back?” I asked with surprise, then waved away the foolish question. “No, forget I said that. The real surprise would be if she hadn’t gotten him back. Poor Rion. He must be absolutely frantic.” This is why the entirety of this escape business should be written from the Rion POV. quote:Vallant won’t be allowed to do something desperate, not while that woman still wants to make use of him.” Oh look at that, we got some blatant moralizing! quote:My thoughts were a bit on the jangled side as the coach moved through the night, but that was only to be expected. It was still rather hard to believe that Naran had actually been waiting for me to escape, and if I’d left that house sooner I would have been in the coach sooner. The only thing to wear in the way of shoes had been what I’d had on: the flimsy slippers which matched the lacy gown. My feet now ached from the walking I’d done over stones and twigs, the ache telling me just how grateful I ought to be that I hadn’t had to keep walking. ...the footpath is made of stones and twigs!? Why does Green keep putting bits of information like this out of sequence in the prose? This description would have been better if it had been mentioned when she was actually creeping along the footpath! quote:But there were too many distractions attacking my emotions for gratitude to have much of a chance. Outraged indignation toward Rion’s mother was the easiest to define, and I felt glad that I was the one who would get him out of her clutches. She was a vile beast, easily as bad as Lanir if not worse. Enslaving a relative stranger was somehow not quite as bad as doing the same to your own flesh and blood…. An emotional reaction I actually believe! I really would have liked to see more of Rion and Tamrissa bonding over their horrible childhoods. quote:I raised a hand to my head as I tried to fight off the rest of what I felt, but it was simply no use. I’d agreed that Vallant’s rescue could wait until Rion was free, but that had been an intellectual decision rather than an emotional one. Why do you like this guy again? He's not Lanir levels of horrible but he's still an rear end. quote:The outer me wanted to race to the Razas woman’s house and set a tightening circle of flame about her that would end up meeting in the middle of where she stood, Those homicidal instincts are just so gosh darn hard to keep down. quote:but I couldn’t deny that Rion needed me more. Summary: Day 23 (?) Tamrissa/Rion/Vallant regains consciousness and discovers she's/he's been taken as concubine/captive/sex slave by Lord Lanir, the Seated High in Fire/Hallina Mardimill, his adoptive mother/Eltrina Razas. He/she drops a bunch of exposition about how he's/she's mind-slaved her/him and forbidden her/him to use her/his talent ever again with Puredan/jerk himself off. Except it doesn't work, since Naran, the greatest programmer of all time, discovered the secret to avoid becoming anybody's mind-slave in the last book—namely, they just need to be ordered to never obey any other orders ever again. One afternoon chilling out in a gaudy bedroom later, and Tamrissa's got all her mental faculties and her talent back. During dinner, she is forced to experience an Obvious Plot Recap as well as her father's own humiliation from Lord Lanir. Meanwhile, Rion and Vallant are both dudes in distress, holding on for a hero. Kambil and his mind slaves stake out Zolind's dinner party and puppet him around to a super lame script, in which Zolind lets loose about how he's really mad that Delin killed his lover, Ollon, and that's why he'll never Seat any Blending with Delin in it. After this incredibly on the nose forced villain monologue, Kambil and co kill Zolind via a heart attack and leave, very chuffed with themselves. After dinner, Lanir takes Tamrissa back to the bedroom with every intention of raping her violently but burns himself out trying to kill her once he realizes she's got her talent back. She escapes, after drinking two cups of tea, and is picked up by Naran, who has very conveniently done all the hard work of putting an escape and rescue plan together. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 50 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil Book 4: Fasher, Wirn, Bowes TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 32 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 34 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch, a late afternoon bite, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 126 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 58 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 35 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 123 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 67 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 73 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 37 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 23(5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 13, including 3 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 1 in Book 4, which is a rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: If this were written from the Rion POV, it'd be way more interesting than "sit in a room, drink some tea, sit in another room and eat silently, go sit in the first room and drink some tea while some guy turns himself into a vegetable, walk out and go do some more sitting in a coach." Wow, now that I've typed all that out, at the level that I would normally be outlining my scenes at, it looks really boring. There's no conflict whatsoever because there are no real obstacles that Tamrissa has to overcome to escape. We don't learn anything new and she doesn't grow as a character. Why does this chapter even exist, except "because plot"?
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 10:43 |
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I really wish we had gotten the reveal here about the Seated Highs. It would have added so much if we didn’t know how strong Lanir is until he touches the power after Tamrissa has risked revealing her secret. Then this sequence would have a great reason to be here, too!
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 06:49 |
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It could actually be a quite good chapter given a better writer. We've not seen anyone "burn out" on screen, I believe, and it's quite a horrible concept, a bit like the "gentling" in The Lies of Locke Lamora. You would think that most of the magic practitioners in the world would have some fear of burn-out - they would probably have been taught about it as soon as they started using magic. You could imagine an effective scene with a short, violent magic fight with Lanir, and Tamrissa's triumph turning to horror as she realizes what he'd done to himself. You could even make the wallet-retrieving part in service of this, with her reluctant to touch the husk of the once-man. But no, you get some bland scenes of tea-drinking. Even if Green wanted to depict Tamrissa as happy with her would-be-rapist's fate, you would get that much better if you conveyed the horror of the situation. And yes, having Tamrissa steal a maid's clothes and escape through the neighborhoods of the city would have been a great chance to flesh out the feel of this mysteriously vague place we've been in for 3 whole books now. Instead, she walks down a path and meets a magical plot device.
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 07:20 |
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quote:CHAPTER SEVEN you're a noble in a noble's house. I refuse to believe that there are no other diversions. Do you not have a library? Musical instruments? Can you not call for poetry or other performers to entertain you? Highest Aspect forbid, you could even go to take a bath? quote:Rion put his head back and closed his eyes, more desolate than he’d ever imagined it was possible to be. The terror he’d felt—distantly, because of the drug—over losing his talent had turned into a throbbing pang of emptiness which refused to be assuaged. He’d asked himself many times during the last hours if keeping his mind would be all that desirable with both talent and freedom gone, but he hadn’t been able to come to a firm decision. The idea of death didn’t frighten him, but what if his damaged mind retained enough awareness to remember what he’d once been …? TEA because we can't possibly meditate on the huge dilemma facing us without it. quote:but Rion still opened his eyes and reached for his cup. Lifting it to his lips took something of an effort and most of his attention, and when he replaced the cup there was a servant standing not far from him. Sculling back that tea like it's alcohol. quote:still taken by the surprise of an earlier discovery. All those servants he’d thought were laughing at him; since his return he’d been able to interpret their true feelings, which was, almost to a man or woman, pity. They’d known the truth of his situation long before he had, and had tried to offer unspoken sympathy and silent consolation. That he’d interpreted their actions as standoffish ridicule had been Mother’s doing, of course, using passing comments to make him think the worst of those around him. She’d wanted to make sure that no one would find it possible to take her place with him…. This sticks out oddly to me, for whatever reason, because how do you misinterpret pity for ridicule?! They are two completely different facial expressions. Exhibit A, ridicule: Exhibit B, pity: quote:“Here I am, my darling, back with you as quickly as possible,” Mother all but sang as she sailed into the room. “Among other things, I’ve been busy arranging to have your clothing brought from Haven Wraithside, so you’ll no longer need to wear those rags. I can’t imagine what you did with the clothing you took with you to that filthy hovel. When I sent servants there to fetch it back, they were able to find nothing but those awful white shirts and gray trousers. I think the servants in that place must have stolen your lovely things when they realized that you would not be returning.” You went to ONE tailor shop to get outfitted for uniforms, and then based on those measurements, Eltrina commissioned you some ABBA pantsuits. Somehow I don't think either of those things qualify as true fashion. (Okay, maybe the ABBA pantsuits do, since the noble Blendings were also wearing them for a ball at the palace.) quote:The only ones who wear those costumes are useless, mindless fops—something I don’t happen to be.” Actually...that depends on the language. In Cantonese and Mandarin, it's very common for the parent to refer to themselves in the third person when talking to their child. It's rarer once the child reaches adulthood, but it really depends on the context of the exact line in the conversation. But we're in Fantasy faux Regency era so yeah, okay. quote:Only someone of real importance should be spoken of in that way, which means you simply don’t qualify. Rion just ignoring political realities to land an insult. quote:And to make my position perfectly clear, allow me to say that even your peasant ancestors would turn away from the sight of you in disgust.” Though this is probably the one that hurts Hallina more. quote:“How dare you!” she hissed in a strangled voice, all the blood having drained from her face before it came rushing back to show her extreme outrage. “How dare you even consider speaking to me so, not to mention actually doing it! Have you decided that I’m joking, that I won’t have you punished terribly for attempting to disobey me? If so, prepare yourself to be disillusioned. Ditras, send to the stablemen’s quarters for Hafner to attend me at once! Lord Clarion requires another dose of his sedative, and afterward he will also require a beating.” Oh no! Will one of our protagonists actually have to suffer permanent consequences? quote:“I don’t think sending for other people is a very good idea,” a female voice said suddenly, a voice Rion had feared that he would never hear again. Of course not. This is a Green novel. quote:“I’ve always preferred small, cozy groups like this one, with no more than five people in them. No, don’t get up. I won’t be staying long enough to require courtesies.” Seriously. Personal security should be a HUGE business in the Blendingverse. When 90% of your population can wield elemental magic, it's really insane that the government's half-assed conditioning attempts where people are both allowed and also not allowed to use their talents are enough to stop people from...using their talents. Especially when it's ambiguous whether said conditioning was applied to the nobility in the first place. (I know Hallina is meant to be read as a dumb entitled character but I'm really sick of the number of dumb entitled characters in these novels; they don't make for engaging antagonists.) quote:Just be easy, Rion. We’ll be gone from this place in another minute or two.” So this passage implies Hallina Mardimil has Fire magic. Apart from this one instance, I don't think her talent is ever canonized elsewhere in the text. quote:“All right, it’s time for us to leave,” Tamrissa said briskly, looking back to the two servants. “Come over here and help this man.” Too bad we're not seeing any of this, other than sentences like this in your narration that tell us how you're super affected by it. quote:Nor was it easy to reach the front door. The house had never seemed so large before, and it felt as though he trudged miles before reaching his destination. Sweat stood out on his face and he leaned heavily on the two men assisting him, but the thought of stopping even for a brief rest never entered his mind. He was on the way to being free again, and that end was worth any price he might be required to pay. I don't know whether I love or hate this line. It's utterly in character for Rion and it's also the kind of line where if Vallant had said it, I'd be up in arms about how sexist it is. Because it is extremely sexist to compliment a woman for her appearance and her clothing instead of complimenting her abilities. quote:“Oh, you,” she half scolded with a relieved laugh. “Just save your strength for walking.” Wow. Just wow. That's some real, entitled, "it's you and not the system" and "privilege doesn't exist" attitude right there. quote:This time Ditras made no reply, but Rion was pleased to see that the man appeared to be thinking about what he’d heard. Chances were excellent that both he and Rovelon would now find themselves unemployed, as Mother would want no one around to remind her of her embarrassment. Not getting her own way had always been furiously embarrassing to Mother, even though it had rarely happened…. Screw Our Heroes; let's treat all of the books to date as a gigantic prologue for the buddy adventures of Ditras and Rovelon. I'm pretty sure it'd be more interesting. quote:Climbing into the coach was almost more than Rion could accomplish, but the delightful shock of seeing Naran awaiting him inside helped him to tap unsuspected reservoirs of strength. quote:The servants pushed from behind and Naran took his hand and pulled, and the next moment he sat beside her on the coach seat with his arms about her. As he’d never thought to hold her like this again, the experience went far beyond mere pleasure. That last sentence tells me nothing. quote:“Thank you, gentlemen, and good luck to you,” Rion heard Tamrissa say. He looked up in time to see her hand a coin to each of the servants, which put shocked expressions on their faces. Ditras recovered quickly enough to assist Tamrissa into the coach, then their driver had started them moving away from the house and back down the drive. In a city with a corrupt guard and corrupt nobility, two unemployed commoners each in possession of a gold coin aren't suspicious at all. In our hypothetical buddy adventure story, the very next scene would be Ditras and Rovelon being robbed. quote:“May I ask where you got the gold?” Rion put in, for the most part occupied with how wonderful it felt to be holding Naran again. “And for that matter, where did you two marvelous delights come from? I was certain I was very much on my own.” I can't tell whether she's saying this because she's playing the "I'm just a simple girl who isn't a High practitioner" part or because Book 5 spoilers she couldn't See any way for her to rescue Rion. quote:Are you all right, my love? She didn’t torment you completely beyond bearing, did she?” Get ready for a totally inadequate exploration of this issue that we already know based on Tamrissa's experience to be a nothing burger via not one, but TWO viewpoint characters. quote:“You can’t reach the power because of the hilsom powder,” Tamrissa said quickly, reaching across to touch his hand in support. “I felt the same way at first, but when the powder wore off I was just as good as new. Your mother could have been lying to you the same way Lanir lied to me, or maybe they both thought they were telling the truth. With as little as people really know about Blendings, believing what might just be an opinion would he foolish.” The way this is used as a point of tension in MULTIPLE VIEW POINTS and then immediately resolved makes NO sense. quote:“You said ‘Lanir’ told you the same thing. Who is Lanir, and how was it that you were able to escape him?” In Lanir's defense, he had good reason to believe this would be safe. Though really, he should have gotten the aid of a Middle or a High in Spirit magic to make sure of it. quote:After giving me the Puredan he let the hilsom powder wear off, thinking he was perfectly safe. When he discovered he wasn’t, he pushed his Middle talent too far and burned himself out.” It's a Dumb One Weird Trick schtick that Green will never get tired of. This particular one pops up in all her mind control books. quote:“We certainly have,” Rion agreed, hugging her one-armed. “And if we look at it properly, you’re directly responsible for helping me to regain my freedom. Not that Tamrissa isn’t to be thanked as well….” Everybody here is despicable—and worse, not even interesting despicable. quote:“Eltrina Razas,” Rion echoed, touched by sudden understanding. “She succeeded in securing Vallant for her own purposes, then, and we’re about to free him, I take it. What may I do to assist you?” Could it be? Might we have a super exciting escape sequence for a change? quote:“Most people would have the good sense to accept their defeat and give up the game as a bad idea, but something tells me that one or more of these nobles won’t do any such intelligent thing. We’ll have to leave the city as soon as we possibly can, which means we now have the time to hear how Naran found us. Naran?” She's right; this is a BAD time for it Tamrissa. quote:“Eltrina Razas’s house is only a short way up this road, how close are all these people living together? How big is this city? quote:and we shouldn’t be deep in distracting conversation when we get there. Besides, you have to understand how many people I know … Nobody understands this, because every time you've been in the scene, you're either just Rion's sex object or a magical plot device. quote:and how frantic I was when the five of you failed to come home … I couldn’t just sit there and make you do it all by yourselves…” I hate this. Naran as a character has so much potential and it's all just...wasted. quote:“You ought to be told, though, how grateful I am that you didn’t just sit there. If not for you, I’d probably still be trudging down Lanir’s drive, wondering if I’d reach the road before dawn.” quote:Naran’s agitation eased with that, especially since Rion had put his arms about her again. He would wait with her in the coach because that was all he was currently capable of doing, but the helplessness still rankled. And all he could do beyond that was hope he didn’t nod off while they waited…. You absolutely should, because you won't miss anything. Summary: Day 23 (?) Tamrissa/Rion/Vallant regains consciousness and discovers she's/he's been taken as concubine/captive/sex slave by Lord Lanir, the Seated High in Fire/Hallina Mardimill, his adoptive mother/Eltrina Razas. He/she drops a bunch of exposition about how he's/she's mind-slaved her/him and forbidden her/him to use her/his talent ever again with Puredan/jerk himself off. Except it doesn't work, since Naran, the greatest programmer of all time, discovered the secret to avoid becoming anybody's mind-slave in the last book—namely, they just need to be ordered to never obey any other orders ever again. One afternoon chilling out in a gaudy bedroom later, and Tamrissa's got all her mental faculties and her talent back. During dinner, she is forced to experience an Obvious Plot Recap as well as her father's own humiliation from Lord Lanir. Meanwhile, Rion and Vallant are both dudes in distress, holding on for a hero. Kambil and his mind slaves stake out Zolind's dinner party and puppet him around to a super lame script, in which Zolind lets loose about how he's really mad that Delin killed his lover, Ollon, and that's why he'll never Seat any Blending with Delin in it. After this incredibly on the nose forced villain monologue, Kambil and co kill Zolind via a heart attack and leave, very chuffed with themselves. After dinner, Lanir takes Tamrissa back to the bedroom with every intention of raping her violently but burns himself out trying to kill her once he realizes she's got her talent back. She escapes, after drinking two cups of tea, and is picked up by Naran, who has very conveniently done all the hard work of putting an escape and rescue plan together. They head straight for the Mardimil estate where Tamrissa rescues Rion from being beaten to a pulp by Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 52 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil Book 4: Fasher, Wirn, Bowes, Ditras, Rovelon TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 33 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Mardimil house in Gan Garee, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 34 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch, a late afternoon bite, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 126 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 59 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 19 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 35 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 129 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 68 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 76 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 38 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 23(5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 13, including 3 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 1 in Book 4, which is a rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: Yawn. This has even less suspense compared to the chapter before. We know nothing bad is going to happen to Rion—there's no indication that there's even a chance Tamrissa and Naran might be too late. Tamrissa's got full control of her powers, and even if she didn't, her talent is Fire so it's not like a rescue job requires fine control: she could just light things up in a sloppy manner and they'd still get away. I don't care about Rion's dilemma because we already know from Tamrissa's example that he's gonna get his powers back just fine. Introducing any element that might have prolonged suspense would have helped! Having Rovelon turn out to be a pretty strong Water talent, unexpected traffic in the roads, their carriage getting pulled up by guards, losing a carriage wheel, one of the horses going lame—I'm really reaching for examples now but anything at all would have been better than this. Leng fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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Trigger warning for more attempted rape quote:CHAPTER EIGHT that's...not the reason I would have expected from Vallant, who is supposed to be this well-traveled sea captain who has visited every major port in the empire. quote:At one point a servant had appeared with a tray of food, and had tried to feed him. The food might very well have had more of the drug in it, so Vallant had pretended to be too confused and logy to eat it even with the servant’s help. The servant had left again acting frustrated and annoyed, and Vallant had gone back to fighting the drug while feeling hungrier than ever. THIS PROSE. It's just full of filler words that weaken an already weak passage. quote:Now there was the sound of the lock being thrown again, but Vallant hadn’t regained enough control of himself to take advantage of it. He wanted to jump to his feet and fight his way out of that room and house, but simply opening his eyes to see who his visitor was seemed to be the most success he was able to claim. ...why Green felt the need to undermine Vallant's one moment where he's actually doing something interesting and distinct from the other characters I do not know. It's as if she doesn't trust her readers to extrapolate based on context so she spells everything out. But then leaves glaring plot holes and inconsistent characterization everywhere else. quote:Take that sheet off you.” Reminder that Eltrina has Earth magic and that Vallant is totally cut off from the power. She technically can use her talent to stimulate the physical reaction that she wants out of Vallant. quote:“I went to a great deal of trouble to have you even for this short amount of time, and early tomorrow morning they’ll be coming to take you back. I will have my enjoyment of you before then, even if you have to spend most of the intervening hours in that tiny box I had prepared. Do you really want to be put into that tiny box?” FFS, again with downplaying rape in favor of overplaying the situational claustrophobia. quote:“How dare you just walk in here!” the woman suddenly snarled as she looked toward the door. Vallant had heard the door opening, but the sound hadn’t done more than register vaguely in his awareness. “Get out this instant, and go and pack your things. You no longer have a—” Guess who? quote:“I find it really amusing that all you so-called nobles tend to say the same thing,” were the words spoken, very dryly. “ ‘How dare you, how dare you’—as though any normal person needs permission to interrupt you freaks during your perversions. That pile of clothing in the corner appears to be his, so move your oversize backside away from him while this servant dresses him.” Such a promising start, only for it to all fall down when Green's mouthpiece has to resort to insulting Eltrina's appearance because she's a woman and so of course the most devastating insult out of the three is "your rear end is huge". quote:“You have the nerve to come into my house and try to give orders?” the Razas woman spat in response, nevertheless rising quickly to her feet. “You’re even more stupid than you are useless, you ignorant peasant, and it will be my pleasure to—” Cue obligatory antagonist routine wherein the low talent person in a position of wealth and power blithely pisses off someone they know to be a High talent. quote:At that point Vallant could have wept. It was Tamrissa who had appeared, and she’d seen everything. She had to USE MAGIC before you recognized it was her??? quote:“ ‘Useless’ isn’t precisely the right term to apply to me,” Tamrissa said, her words still very dry. “As you can see I do have one use, and I’m still extremely good at it. Have you ever seen someone of my strength burn something from the inside out? The trick is to keep the outside from going up until the inside is completely consumed, but it isn’t nearly as hard as it sounds. Psychotic Tamrissa is terrifying and the only good part of this scene. quote:For the second and last time, get out of the way so the servant can dress him.” why would Vallant notice this detail about the servant? It's so uncharacteristic. quote:to reach the pile of clothing on the floor beside the chest. “I’ll have the guard after you so fast that you’ll think they appeared out of thin air! And when Lanir gets his hands on you again, you’ll spend a long time regretting whatever trick you used to get away from him!” Is that wall of flame still going? Because Eltrina's been keeping Vallant in a closet, and there's now four people, none of whom are Air magic talents pulling in fresh air, which means that they should all probably be passing out from the lack of oxygen right about now. quote:Razas paled at that, and the hands of the nervous male servant dressing Vallant began to tremble even more. It wasn’t possible to believe that Tamrissa wasn’t serious, and both of her listeners knew it. If Green eliminated every instance of the phrase "it wasn't possible to" from her prose, it would read 200000x better. quote:“But you can’t take him,” Razas whispered, her pasty complexion showing the fear which now touched her. Holy redundancy quote:“They’ll be here to reclaim him tomorrow morning, and if I can’t produce him—! I’ll pay you gold. Name a price and it’s yours.” We could have gotten a really good, interesting negotiation scene. quote:“And if his being gone will bring you grief, so much the better. What were they going to do with him?” But no, we're getting this instead. quote:“For some reason you seem to be deliberately trying to miss the point,” Tamrissa said, without the anger which could normally be expected. How about...just writing a better line of dialogue so Tamrissa's tone is clear without having to spell it out in the dialogue tag? quote:“There’s no one left with Fire magic even as strong as mine, never mind stronger. Even the Blending we faced in the final competition couldn’t match us, and I suspect that the same can be said of the Seated Five. None of your misnamed Highs and Adepts could do anything like— this, for instance.” Remember this moment. quote:Now we’ll be leaving, so help him up.” Seriously the logistics of this makes no sense, unless you assume clothing logistics matter because Green didn't want Vallant to look less handsome by having to wear clothes that weren't made for him. quote:The servant pulled him up to sitting and then hoisted him to his feet, but even with his arm draped around the servant’s neck and the servant’s arm around his middle, Vallant discovered that he could barely stand, let alone walk. You could just drop dead right now? quote:For that reason he gritted his teeth and forced himself to walk, if that dragging shuffle could be called walking…. Spoilers for Book 5: Eltrina has a pretty significant arc as far as antagonists go for the rest of this book and the next, and this is such a missed opportunity to characterize her motivations quote:“Your people will be told that you don’t want to be disturbed, and I suggest that you make no effort to call for help. The longer you stay locked up and out of touch, the better off you’ll be if the guard comes looking for us after all. It won’t save your life, but it will certainly save you a great deal of pain.” Vallant you self-absorbed, selfish rear end. Your first reaction upon seeing Rion and Naran is "oh thank god I'm not the only one who looks weak and incapable in front of my woman", not concern for Rion? quote:“Here, take this for your trouble,” Vallant heard Tamrissa say, and he turned his head in time to see her handing something to the servant. “I’ll appreciate your telling the other servants not to disturb Eltrina, and then you’ll be wise to pack your things and leave. Even if you go and release her at once instead, she’ll never keep you around after you witnessed what was done to her.” How dumb does Tamrissa think the servants are? Nobody survives working for a horrid boss without knowing ten different methods of self-preservation. quote:He headed back to the house with his fist wrapped tight around the coin he’d been given, and Tamrissa climbed into the coach and closed the door behind her before taking the seat beside Vallant. This entitled attitude from the supposed champions of the downtrodden common-born, right after she's warned the servant about his own perilous situation. quote:her gaze already on his face. “Vallant, are you all right? You haven’t said even a single word yet.” you had time to pack clothes beforehand and organize a coach to pick you up but you...didn't put the luggage into the coach? Book 5 spoilers I refuse to believe anybody who is supposedly the strongest Sight magic talent ever isn't also a master of logistics quote:After that we’ll have to find some place to hide, at least until we locate Jovvi and Lorand. Once we do we’ll get out of the city … Vallant, you haven’t said yet whether or not you’re all right.” quote:“Vallant, isn’t there anything else you can think of to say?” Tamrissa asked after another short silence, her hand coming to his arm. “What I mean is, something to me?” Vallant. quote:It was perfectly true that Vallant needed rest desperately, but what he needed even more was an end to the way Tamrissa was certainly looking at him: with compassion and pity. Just two days ago he’d been a full, strong man in her eyes, and now … Now she would never see him the same. She’d witnessed his humiliation and shame, so from now on she’d remember that every time she looked at him. A weakling who had to be rescued by the woman he’d loved when he was whole, a woman he still loved but who now could do no more than pity him. Behold the return of king Vallant. I'd forgotten that he is worse than sexist rear end Vallant. quote:After a short hesitation her hand left his arm, and happily she said nothing more. Vallant continued to stare out the window, wishing with his entire being that he might be back and alone in that small, windowless room—so that he might weep like a child for all that he’d lost…. I can't even. Summary: Day 23 (?) Tamrissa/Rion/Vallant regains consciousness and discovers she's/he's been taken as concubine/captive/sex slave by Lord Lanir, the Seated High in Fire/Hallina Mardimill, his adoptive mother/Eltrina Razas. He/she drops a bunch of exposition about how he's/she's mind-slaved her/him and forbidden her/him to use her/his talent ever again with Puredan/jerk himself off. Except it doesn't work, since Naran, the greatest programmer of all time, discovered the secret to avoid becoming anybody's mind-slave in the last book—namely, they just need to be ordered to never obey any other orders ever again. One afternoon chilling out in a gaudy bedroom later, and Tamrissa's got all her mental faculties and her talent back. During dinner, she is forced to experience an Obvious Plot Recap as well as her father's own humiliation from Lord Lanir. Meanwhile, Rion and Vallant are both dudes in distress, holding on for a hero. Kambil and his mind slaves stake out Zolind's dinner party and puppet him around to a super lame script, in which Zolind lets loose about how he's really mad that Delin killed his lover, Ollon, and that's why he'll never Seat any Blending with Delin in it. After this incredibly on the nose forced villain monologue, Kambil and co kill Zolind via a heart attack and leave, very chuffed with themselves. After dinner, Lanir takes Tamrissa back to the bedroom with every intention of raping her violently but burns himself out trying to kill her once he realizes she's got her talent back. She escapes, after drinking two cups of tea, and is picked up by Naran, who has very conveniently done all the hard work of putting an escape and rescue plan together. They head straight for the Mardimil estate where Tamrissa rescues Rion from being beaten to a pulp by Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 52 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil Book 4: Fasher, Wirn, Bowes, Ditras, Rovelon TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 33 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Mardimil house in Gan Garee, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 34 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch, a late afternoon bite, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3; 1 in Book 4) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x2), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 126 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 59 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 19 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 35 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 130 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 69 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 76 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 38 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 23(5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 14, including 4 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 2 in Book 4, 2 of which are rape scenes) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: We do not need to be in Vallant's head for this chapter. We already got the "Tamrissa is a Strong Woman doing Strong Woman Things like the Rescuing" message, we don't need to get it again. We got no further insight into the nobility. We learned nothing new about Vallant. This event does advance the Valissa relationship but since this is supposed to be an ensemble cast narrative and not the standard romance single or dual POV, I don't think we need to see it from either of their perspectives. (Though if I'm being honest, I think the books would read a lot better if their entire relationship was treated as the running gag that it is, instead of Passionate Tumultuous True Love.) Give me this scene from Eltrina's POV. Let me see how it's possible for a complacent noble, secure in her knowledge of the corrupted system, to be utterly incapable of recognizing the very real danger she's in. Show us how terrifying it is, to know that you're going to burn alive, and then the whiplash of realizing you're still alive because the deranged escaped common-born Fire talent is so strong that she can burn the clothes off you without so much as singeing a hair on your head. Stronger than you are. Stronger than an entire company of guardsmen. Stronger than the newly Seated Blending, who themselves are so strong that they terrify you. And then let the horror of all that sink in as you work through the implications for life as you know it, until you conclude that Drastic Measures are needed. Old feuds need to be put aside. Jockeying for position will have to wait. Forget about schemes to put the newly Seated Blending under control, because if the nobility doesn't stop its infighting, Tamrissa and her friends are gonna destroy the whole system and nothing and no one is strong enough to stop them. And in one chapter, spoilers for the rest of this first series we cut out all of the useless hand wringing and running around in circles that the antagonists are gonna do in undermining themselves for the rest of this book and the next and made every single one of Eltrina's subsequent POVs more compelling.
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# ? Sep 20, 2022 03:45 |
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I think the thing about mistaking contempt for pity is that it's suppose to be that he's seeing the same expression and misinterpreting it the first time, but understanding it properly when he sees it as pity. As for the third-person mother thing, I'm pretty sure it was actually a very common third in 'Victorian' era anyways. Never mind it's not something completely unheard of TODAY.
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# ? Sep 25, 2022 15:06 |
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Leng posted:you had time to pack clothes beforehand and organize a coach to pick you up but you...didn't put the luggage into the coach? Book 5 spoilers I refuse to believe anybody who is supposedly the strongest Sight magic talent ever isn't also a master of logistics I can only assume she was afraid she might give herself away? I'm sure the real answer is they needed an excuse to drink more tea and repeat themselves.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 06:43 |
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Leng posted:A quick tangentially on-topic self promo post! So I mentioned earlier in the thread that I wrote and published a book: Just popping in to give Leng's book a recommendation! There may be some slight similarities to the Blendingverse, but it is a vastly superior book! Honestly, it made me think more of Baru Cormorant than anything, and that series (that I think I may have picked up on Leng's recommendation) is one of my favorites. I intended to read Petition a little at a time while I was on vacation, and ended up staying up all night and reading it in one go - needless to say, I was hooked, and want more. Go buy her book!
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A Small Car posted:Just popping in to give Leng's book a recommendation! There may be some slight similarities to the Blendingverse, but it is a vastly superior book! Honestly, it made me think more of Baru Cormorant than anything, and that series (that I think I may have picked up on Leng's recommendation) is one of my favorites. I intended to read Petition a little at a time while I was on vacation, and ended up staying up all night and reading it in one go - needless to say, I was hooked, and want more. Go buy her book! This is the most awesome thing I've read all day! Scratch that, it's the most awesome thing I've seen all month. Thank you so much, this gave me a much needed boost while I've been struggling through the sequel.
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# ? Oct 14, 2022 23:50 |
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quote:CHAPTER NINE Great proofreading going on here. quote:Outside the coach the night was also quiet. Yes, yes, it's quiet and frozen with the chill of chilly silence and night. I get it. quote:Nothing but the creak of springs, the jingle of harness, and the clatter of the horses’ hooves to be heard. I closed my eyes and embraced those small sounds, Is...is that an attempt at writing better description? I'm shocked. And happy. And shocked at how happy I am to read this. quote:holding to them in an effort to ease the pain I foolishly felt. I’d told Jovvi that I expected my relationship with Vallant to end abruptly one day, and now, apparently, that day had come. I’d expected him to be as glad to see me as Rion had been to see Naran, but Rion had only been taken away from his mother. Vallant had been taken from Eltrina Razas, a female noble who really had an incredibly good figure, and it was impossible to deny that he’d been interested in her…. OMFG. Although since Tamrissa's sex ed is very lacking, I guess it's reasonable for her to misunderstand that. But the fact that she thinks Vallant is emotionally interested in Eltrina just highlights the complete lack of basis for a strong relationship between these two characters. That or Tamrissa is actually socially inept, but all signs from textual evidence points to the fact that she's not supposed to be read that way. quote:Keeping my eyes closed also became impossible, the pictures my mind dredged up making it so. Vallant had been about to make love to Eltrina Razas, and I’d come bursting in to end the time. His annoyance was apparently so great that he couldn’t even look at me, and that despite the fact that he had to know he couldn’t have stayed. quote:The way he’d “thanked” me for saving him. I’d wanted just a few soft words of greeting, a strong arm around my shoulders, possibly even a kiss. Okay, no arguments here. Vallant was being an absolute rear end about this. quote:But I’d gotten none of that, and there was no use in wishing I had. Wishing never came true, just the way hoping usually failed. For a short while I’d had someone to do my hoping for me, but it had become very clear that Vallant no longer wanted the job. It was up to me again to do it for myself, but I’d given up on the practice too long ago to take it up again now. We did not need 4 sentences to express this one sentiment. Where was the copyeditor? quote:It took quite some time before I found it possible to force my thoughts onto another track, and the only thing which made it possible was our next destination. I had my own reasons for being glad that we were retiring briefly to my house, as Jovvi had shared a very important secret with me. Oh hey, look at that—Green actually remembered something that she set up! quote:I found that I had to work rather hard to cling to the belief that Jovvi and Lorand would be with us again. Not even knowing where they were made the thought too much like wishing or hoping, which had, as already mentioned, always turned out badly for me. I had to make certain that I believed instead, with all the stubbornness that touching the power brought stacked up behind the belief…. Why did we not just cover this same point in ONE paragraph? quote:When the coach finally turned into my drive, I was even more weary than I had been. Rion had fallen asleep quite some time ago, and so had Vallant Ro. They both sat slumped bonelessly, deeply into that lack of consciousness which I remembered all too well. Even Naran had kept nodding off, but the change in motion of the carriage awakened her, and she looked outside. Still waiting for an answer on why you didn't just...TAKE THE BAGS WITH YOU, Naran. Though maybe in the original draft she did, but it caused logistical problems with Tamrissa's need to go back and get Jovvi's gold. quote:“I’ll go inside with you,” I said, just as softly. “There are a few things of my own that I’d like to get, not to mention an additional change of clothing. I’m freezing in this ridiculous gown, and my feet still hurt. These slippers are for walking around indoors, not outside.” OMFG shut up about the dress and the slippers. Naran would have packed a change of clothing for you! quote:“But shouldn’t you stay with the coach to guard Rion and Vallant?” she asked, sounding unsure. “I can understand your wanting to change, but what if someone comes by while we’re inside?” Is that because Tamrissa is The Strongest Fire Magic User Ever or is this normal for fire talents? Seriously, how is personal security NOT a huge business in Gan Garee? quote:“That should work,” she agreed with a shadowy smile. “I’ll tell him before we go inside.” a rich rear end merchant putting a key under his fantasy-equivalent doormat so he doesn't get locked out? When he lives in a house full of servants? quote:The key let us in through the door without any difficulty, and I produced a small flame to light our way upstairs. Naran came with me and helped me change into warmer, more practical clothes in record time, and then I went with her to fetch the bags she’d packed. We did not need all this logistics. But I very much sympathize with Green now: summarizing and managing time skips is hard to do effectively. Fonda Lee is very good at it and I am envious. I have sat there, staring at whole passages in Jade Legacy thinking to myself, "what is this witchery?" and have yet to figure out how she does it. quote:On the way I stopped at the statuette in the hall, groped around a bit to find the purse, then removed it. Why are we having this pedestrian exchange dialogue that doesn't reveal anything about these characters?! quote:but we’ll need more clothing for Rion. He only had those gray trousers and white shirts left, and his mother’s people took those. I packed extra clothing from Vallant’s bedchamber, but had to take only the uniform from Lorand’s. The rest of his clothing is almost as distinctive as Rion’s was.” Why are we entirely focused on clothes!? Clothes are the least of your problems right now! quote:“Once we get the bags downstairs, let’s check the kitchen,” I suggested after nodding to what she’d said. “If they’ve left any food behind, we ought to take it with us.” What????????? I'm getting mental images of Tamrissa just trying to throw the contents of a sizable estate's entire pantry into a travel trunk. This...this isn't how you pack when you're fleeing the empire as a wanted fugitive. quote:This time it was her turn to nod, and then we took care of the first part of the plan. There were five bags, none of them terribly heavy, so we got them down to the front hall rather quickly. A glance outside showed everything to be quiet, so we went back to the kitchen and looked around. Everything was perfectly clean and orderly, and there wasn’t a single crumb of food left. With no one around to keep the perishables cold that was understandable, but not finding even a single loaf of bread was somehow depressing. so that was a pointless waste of words. quote:When we returned to the front hall we picked up the bags again—Naran insisting on taking three of them—carried them out to the coach, then put them in the boot. While Naran stowed them properly, I turned back to the house to relock the door. If it was at all possible, I meant to reclaim that house one day. Leaving it open to thieves and defense-less against invasion wasn’t something I felt prepared to do. Uh, Tamrissa, it's pretty clear when a house is abandoned. If there was any logic to Green's world and plotting, thieves would be all over this joint in a few days. quote:I took two steps back toward the house—then stopped short when the large figure of a man came forward out of the shadows to the left. I quickly put a ring of flame around him, freezing him in mid step, then just as quickly let the flames die. I knew the man, even though I hadn’t expected ever to see him again. Because Green's characters are that indistinct that we have to have POV characters tell us who they were again. quote:“I’m afraid Lorand isn’t here right now, and it’s extremely unlikely that any of us will be back in the near future. If there was something you wanted to tell him, I’ll do my best to pass on the message.” You have written characters speaking in dialect before! It is also possible to convey things like class via things like vocabulary and phrasing. Why aren't any of these techniques used in Meerk's dialogue instead of these painful dialogue tags? quote:“I know what you’re capable of, so I was an idiot for not letting you know I was there … and I’m not here looking for Dom Coll. I found out that you’d gotten away from that noble who claimed you, so I waited here in the hopes that you would come back, even for just a few minutes.” You're a freaking Earth magic user, Meerk. Tracking a living creature is LITERALLY your aspect's speciality. Why would you need to do something this dumb? It only worked because of Naran's illogical decision to NOT take the packed bags and Tamrissa's convenient recollection of Jovvi's stashed gold. quote:“I seem to have missed something here,” I said, shaking my head against the confusion. A line of dialogue, a physical action AND an outright statement of the POV's emotions to convey the same thing which is already evident from the next exchange of dialogue. quote:“How did you hear about something that happened only a few hours ago, and what happened to the way you used to speak? And while we’re on the subject, why would you want to be here in the first place?” Not-spoilers: there really isn't. We will get the requisite info dump in Chapter 11. quote:running a hand through shaggy hair. I guess Green realized it's been a while since she tried to characterize Meerk. Given his significance to this book and the next, she should have made this moment work a lot harder. quote:“What I will say, though, is that my former accent was part of my disguise, and that I’m a member of an organization dedicated to finding out the truth about what the nobility is doing. We’ve suspected for some time that they’re using unfair and illegal means to keep themselves in power, but we haven’t been able to prove it. In which case you guys are even more incompetent than the absolute incompetents that make up the nobility. quote:You and the rest of your Blending will be able to prove it for us.” Tamrissa's not wrong. quote:“If there were only a few of us, that’s probably what would happen,” he agreed with a faint smile. “In point of fact there are thousands of people in our organization, all of them having been questioned by Middle talents in Spirit or Earth magic before being accepted as members. And since a large number of our people happen to be guardsmen, we’re not in as much danger of being arrested as you might think. But the same doesn’t hold true for you and the others with you, so will you please let me take you to a place of safety? I promise to tell you everything once we get there.” But notice Meerk hasn't denied her guess at his dumb strategy. Not-spoilers for book 5: Tamrissa is right (because she always is) and Meerk gets a rude awakening and has a little character arc around this point so I can't really be mad at Green for actually attempting to do a character arc. quote:“I think we ought to trust him,” Naran said quietly when I hesitated. She’d come over to stand beside me when Meerk had appeared, and had heard everything he’d said. “I have the feeling that my friend—whose coach we’re using—is one of his members, even though she’s never said so.” Right now I'm more interested in knowing what Meerk's plan was if Tamrissa refused to go with him. quote:“All right, I’ll take the chance,” I agreed, forcing myself away from indecision. Translation: Green needed a convenient plot device to yeet her characters into the next part without requiring Tamrissa to do anything that would challenge her. quote:“I just hope for your sake that you’re telling the truth.” And by "we", you mean Naran, the other situationally convenient magical plot device. quote:“You and the two men in the coach were easy to trace, but we haven’t had the same luck with the rest,” he admitted heavily. “I have everyone able to walk, hobble, or crawl out looking for them, so hopefully we’ll know something soon. I promise we won’t give up until we find them.” Jovvi and Lorand are being smuggled in a convoy with a whole lot of other people. How do you miss something like this when you have "thousands" of watchers keeping an eye on the arena, especially when the nobility aren't being particularly careful about what they're doing? quote:I nodded at that, the only thing I could do, then went and locked the door of the house before turning toward the coach myself. Meerk helped me inside, checked the boot to make sure everything was properly secured, then went to climb up on the box with the driver. When the coach began to move again, Naran and I exchanged a glance. She looked slightly less unsure than I felt, but we’d really had no choice. We needed a place to stay and we needed help in locating Jovvi and Lorand, and if Meerk had been telling the truth we’d found someone to supply both. More like he found YOU. quote:But I couldn’t stop worrying about Lorand and Jovvi, and where they might be that no one could find them. If they were dead, Meerk’s people would have no need to prove anything against the nobility. If Lorand and Jovvi were dead, I’d see to it that there weren’t any members of the nobility left to be accused…. Tamrissa exhibiting murderous inclinations towards an entire class of people on the same level as Kelsier in Sanderson's first Mistborn trilogy. Summary: Day 23 (?) Tamrissa/Rion/Vallant regains consciousness and discovers she's/he's been taken as concubine/captive/sex slave by Lord Lanir, the Seated High in Fire/Hallina Mardimill, his adoptive mother/Eltrina Razas. He/she drops a bunch of exposition about how he's/she's mind-slaved her/him and forbidden her/him to use her/his talent ever again with Puredan/jerk himself off. Except it doesn't work, since Naran, the greatest programmer of all time, discovered the secret to avoid becoming anybody's mind-slave in the last book—namely, they just need to be ordered to never obey any other orders ever again. One afternoon chilling out in a gaudy bedroom later, and Tamrissa's got all her mental faculties and her talent back. During dinner, she is forced to experience an Obvious Plot Recap as well as her father's own humiliation from Lord Lanir. Meanwhile, Rion and Vallant are both dudes in distress, holding on for a hero. Kambil and his mind slaves stake out Zolind's dinner party and puppet him around to a super lame script, in which Zolind lets loose about how he's really mad that Delin killed his lover, Ollon, and that's why he'll never Seat any Blending with Delin in it. After this incredibly on the nose forced villain monologue, Kambil and co kill Zolind via a heart attack and leave, very chuffed with themselves. After dinner, Lanir takes Tamrissa back to the bedroom with every intention of raping her violently but burns himself out trying to kill her once he realizes she's got her talent back. She escapes, after drinking two cups of tea, and is picked up by Naran, who has very conveniently done all the hard work of putting an escape and rescue plan together. They head straight for the Mardimil estate where Tamrissa rescues Rion from being beaten to a pulp by As a result, Tamrissa works herself into some truly farfetched conclusions about Vallant. They return to Tamrissa's house to grab a change of clothes and Jovvi's stash of gold. While they're there, Meerk reveals himself as the head of a commoner watchdog organization and convinces them to go with him. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 52 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil Book 4: Fasher, Wirn, Bowes, Ditras, Rovelon TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 33 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Mardimil house in Gan Garee, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 34 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch, a late afternoon bite, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3; 1 in Book 4) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x2), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 126 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 60 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 19 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 35 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 133 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 70 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 76 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 38 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 10 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 23(5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 14, including 4 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 2 in Book 4, 2 of which are rape scenes) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: The worst thing about Green's narration is how there is no arc to it. Narration can be interesting! But to do that, you have to approach it with some structure in mind: there has to be a POINT to the narration. The narrative passage should be a bridge that takes a character from one mental state to another, not just a stream of consciousness list of reminders about about characters and plot points that have finally popped up again after hundreds of pages that we forgot about because they were boring and unremarkable in the first place. Also, I change my mind: Naran should never have packed the bags in the first place. We should have had a frantic scene where they're trying to grab everything and Tamrissa's confronting the idea of actually being on the run, which is a prospect that should terrify her. She's never traveled! She's grown up cloistered as a piece of merchandise on Storn's shelf, and then has spent however many years being trapped in a sadistic marriage. Naran, on the other hand, Book 5 spoilers has lived her entire life on the run so this is business as usual. We could have had a GREAT scene here, with these two characters being tense, on edge, having little conflicts over what to bring and what to leave behind. And we could have added more tension still, with Meerk showing up and them mistaking him for an agent of the nobility, possibly even some magical combat before he can prove he's a friend. UGHHH. What a waste!
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quote:CHAPTER TEN We're about to have a confrontation between the ultimate powers-that-be amongst the nobility, the Advisory Board vs. the newly to-be-Seated Blending. This should be a tense, exciting scene, especially since we're in Kambil's POV, so it's a fantastic opportunity for us to get all of the intel we've been missing! Not-spoilers: this is not going to be what happens. Also from this point on, every single time we're about to have a confrontation between two groups, we're going to have to sit through this kind of preamble with the group. Every. Single. Time. quote:The others chuckled, understanding exactly what he meant. stop writing like this! quote:Once they were Seated and had taken up residence in the palace, Zolind’s most loyal supporters would be seen to one at a time until there were none of them left. And the empty seats would not be refilled, not until they decided on the replacements. Letting the Advisors themselves choose their own membership had brought a lot of deadwood to their ranks, so from now on Kambil and his Blending would take care of the matter. Feeling like Kambil's motivations did a complete 180 here. Book 5 spoilers maybe this is Grammi's influence but also we never get a distinct sense of POV so it's really hard to tell what's going on. I am writing this just having finished reading Nona the quote:“Gentles, I have the privilege to announce a number of members of the Advisory Board,” a servant appeared to say, looking properly impressed as he bowed them into the room. Kambil rose to his feet to bow in supposed respect, making Delin do the same as the others followed suit of their own volition. It would be necessary to remember to make Delin move around a bit more than usual, just to keep their visitors from becoming suspicious. In case you forgot that Delin's been totally mind slaved. quote:“Well, I see that what we were told is quite true,” the apparent leader of the twelve, Lord Velim Shoons, announced with the most hollow joviality Kambil had ever heard. “Our new Blending is still in their former residence rather than at the palace preparing for the Seating ceremony. We must discover the person or persons responsible for this affront to them, and have them properly punished.” Velim SHOONS? Seriously? quote:The men who had arrived with Lord Velim murmured their supposedly full agreement, doing no better with the charade than their spokesman. Velim was beyond middle years and rather stout, just as most of his fellows were, with thinning blond hair streaked with gray. Kambil had never met the man personally before, but observation from a distance had shown him to be one of those who reacted rather than thought. It was said that Zolind had allowed Velim his seat on the beard That typo is in the ebook and makes me think quote:because the man was easy to manipulate, then had regretted the choice when Zolind’s political opponents found manipulating the man just as easy. Any credibility Zolind had in terms of being somebody politically savvy enough to be the power behind the power behind the Fivefold Throne is now destroyed. quote:“Lord Velim, this is a great honor,” Kambil said with another bow, seeing the fool’s chest swell over being recognized. “But I’m afraid I don’t understand. We were told returning to our residence was standard procedure, as arrangements had to be made for us at the palace. Wasn’t the truth?” If we played a drinking game where you had to take a shot every time Green uses a dialogue tag like this, I think I'd die from alcohol poisoning after about two chapters. quote:“The five of you couldn’t be expected to know any better, of course, but no real harm’s been done. We’re here to escort you to the palace personally, This is such a weird thing for twelve nobles on the Advisory Board to do. In what world does this make sense?! Also, this isn't even the whole Advisory Board. No wonder the Empire is so dysfunctional. quote:while the servants pack your things. The coaches should be here at any moment, so if you would be so good as to ready yourselves …?” The man’s words actually ended in a half question, as though he’d already forgotten that he was supposed to be in control. The stupidity quotient in this scene is rising by the sentence. quote:Kambil exchanged happy glances with the others as they all assured the fool that they would be delighted to get ready to leave, and then they excused themselves in order return to their bedchambers. In actual fact they could have locked out the door that moment, Nothing in this whole scene makes any sense! They're nobility! They don't pack their own luggage! They have servants! Why would any of them be going to their bedrooms to get their coats? is going on?! quote:but it would never do to the group of fools know their visit had been expected. Kambil sent Delin to his own bedchamber while he, Kambil went to get a coat, then he followed Delin to the latter’s room. What to do with the man so completely under his control had been a disturbing question in Kambil’s thoughts, the decision he’d come to wasn’t wholly satisfactory. Once at the palace they would each have their own wing, and Delin would have to be as active in his as the others were in their own. At least until the ceremony was over, that is, and they were seated. Theory: copyeditor zoned out while trying to read these books and just stopped being able to process words. quote:“Delin, old fellow, I have some good news for you,” Kambil murmured as he faced the man standing empty-minded in the middle of the floor. “I’m going to bring part you back for a while, as a joke on all those fools down-stairs. You won’t remember everything and you won’t be entirely free of control, but a lot of you will still be back. What do you think of that, hey?” This does not sound like anything Delin would actually say. quote:“We’re getting ready to be escorted to the palace,” Kambil replied, putting concerned worry into his voice. Holy redundancy. quote:“Don’t you remember that we won the competitions, and now we’re to be Seated as the new Five? I agreed to wait for you out in the hall while you got your coat, but when you didn’t appear I came looking for you. You haven’t had another blackout spell, have you?” This name doesn't get any less ridiculous with repetition. quote:“Don’t you remember how they marched into the sitting room downstairs, all but holding out their hands with their Advisor’s rings like talismans in front of them? Most of them are extremely nervous about being this close to us, but they came anyway because they believe their political positions depend on it.” We have no idea if this is true or not because we have no idea how the Advisors are selected. quote:“And they’ll do anything necessary to maintain themselves in place,” Delin said, nodding even as he sneered. “But as long as they’re determined to see us Seated, we shouldn’t be too critical, should we? Well, let’s not keep them waiting.” Oh hey look! The copyeditor woke up! quote:He walked to the wardrobe where his coat hung and took it out, looking as though he hadn’t a care in the world. Kambil, who felt his confusion and fright clearly, knew better, but certainly wasn’t about to comment. A confused and frightened Delin would be a cautious Delin, asking no questions that would betray his weakness. Kambil would keep very close tabs on him to be sure he remained cautious, but for the rest of the time Delin would again be on his own. FORESHADOWING. quote:They walked downstairs together, where their three groupmates waited with three of the Advisors. "Groupmates"? Green on a roll here with names. quote:The other nine had returned to their carriages to wait, they were informed, mostly to keep the new Five from feeling outnumbered. They all chuckled dutifully at the joke, then went out to climb into their own coaches. Velim and the other two Advisors chose to ride in their carriage rather than join them in the coaches, to make sure they didn’t “crowd” the Five. I am so confused by what this whole interaction is supposed to show us. We already know the nobility are dumb and incompetent. quote:Kambil smiled and thanked them for their concern, making no mention of the fact that they’d lied through their teeth. In case you missed the FORESHADOWING! quote:“Which it will be,” Kambil said, exchanging a glance with Bron. It was annoying to have to put up with Delin’s madness again, but it would only be for a short while. After that Delin would sit quietly in his apartments when he wasn’t needed for the Blending, and his servants would be adjusted to the point of seeing nothing odd in his behavior. Until then the man could simply be agreed with, which would avoid awkward confrontations. No! Don't! awkward confrontations would be SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING than the tripe we're reading right now. quote:With one Advisor-filled carriage leading the way and the other two following the coaches, they really did make a procession of their trip to the palace. The gate guards came to attention as the vehicles passed, making no effort to stop any of them. They’d obviously been warned in advance of the arrival, as had the palace staff. Dozens of them lined the approach to the main entrance, the rest undoubtedly lined up near the areas of their various duties. It would have been unwieldy having the hundreds of servants all waiting in the same place to greet their new superiors; dozens made the approach crowded enough, leaving barely enough room for the carriages and coaches. ...how small is this palace that mere "dozens" of servants makes the approach crowded? Tamrissa's house sounds bigger than this so-called palace, that was supposedly "really big" just one book ago. quote:They left the coaches to the applause of their audience, too much of which Kambil found to be either simply for form’s sake or actually hiding hostility. He hadn’t realized that that many palace workers would be displeased and disillusioned, but maybe the reaction was due to their predecessors. As soon as possible he would walk about and get to know some of the servants involved, and in that way would find out if there was anything which needed the attention of the Blending. Not-spoilers: Kambil will do nothing of the sort. quote:The group of Advisors escorted them to the area where the Five’s individual wings began, but not simply for form’s sake. In my head, I'm picturing the palace as like a Southern-style plantation house, a la Tara in Gone With the Wind, but the back is like...half of a starburst with 10 arms. quote:“Those servants will introduce themselves later,” Velim said with a vague wave meant to indicate the five separate groups of servants. “Before they show you around your new domains, though, we’d appreciate a few minutes of your time.” Still super confused about how these meetings are being conducted. quote:“Of course,” Delin responded with distant superiority thinly covered by a charming smile. is this dialogue tag?! quote:“In which of our wings would you prefer the meeting to be?” Okay, the palace is built like a mutilated starburst Tara but the inside is apparently like a conference center? quote:“If we desire anything else, we certainly shall,” Delin allowed regally, then led the way toward the sitting room. Kambil joined the others in following, happier now about having had to restore Delin. The man knew nothing about what they’d done since returning to the residence after the final competition, so whatever Velim wanted to “discuss” would come as a surprise to the man. Even though Kambil suspected he already knew what the Advisor had in mind…. This is that moment right before an all-day board meeting when the interns are running around getting everybody's coffee orders, except it's TEA. quote:“As I said earlier, we apologize for the unconscionable delay in bringing you here,” he began, obviously trying not to sound tense and nervous. “To make up for the unintended slight, we’ve arranged for you to move directly into your various wings of the palace, and the Seating ceremony has been scheduled for tomorrow morning. Anyone of any importance will certainly be there, and two days after that we’ll hold the public ceremony.” ...this is basically a coronation. You don't just schedule a coronation with a few days' notice! quote:“Won’t the current Seated Five be annoyed at having to share their wings?” Delin asked after sipping his tea. “And I do hate to be indelicate, but it’s impossible to miss the fact that Advisor Zolind isn’t among you. Does he intend to repair his absence now by coming to the ceremony tomorrow, or will he be ‘regrettably detained’ the way he clearly was today?” Delin doing a pretty good job for somebody who's missing a huge chunk of time! quote:“There is—ah—sad news where Lord Zolind is concerned,” Velim replied after exchanging a glance with one of his brother Advisors. In Green's books, everybody is brother and sister. quote:“Last night our good friend passed away, apparently from heart failure. His send-off cremation is tonight, which is why the Seating ceremony has been delayed until tomorrow.” If any of the Advisors have Earth or Spirit magic, your ruse would be up immediately. quote:“Advisor Zolind worked with us through most of the time of the competition, and we upheld our end of the bargain we made with him. I assume that your being here means you’re prepared to uphold his end for him?” There is no reason that this should fly in a world where TWO out of FIVE aspects can literally tell if people are lying! quote:“You still haven’t answered my question about the outgoing Five,” Delin prompted, only partially recovered from the shock of learning about Zolind’s death. “You seem to have given us freedom of their wings, which, I’ve been told, only they can give. Are we likely to have to defend ourselves from them, or does the invitation come from them rather than from you?” How succession works in Gandistra continues to make zero sense, especially when you consider that it's the strongest Blending every quarter century, except they never have to compete against the outgoing Blending and we've got nothing to indicate that talent deteriorates with age. quote:“I dislike saying this, but I’m afraid I’m beginning to grow uneasy,” Kambil announced slowly when Velim’s voice trailed off. It was sight of Delin’s now obvious shock which had caused the ending of the Advisor’s maunderings, and Kambil had been waiting to take advantage of the moment. Reminder that this is supposed to be a group of the most powerful, politically savvy nobles in the Empire. quote:Kambil was delighted to see that, of course, but made sure not to let his expression reflect that delight. The worst thing about Green's prose is sentences like these. She could have written a sentence of description that characterized both Velim AND Kambil AND conveyed Kambil's emotional state. Instead, we just get bland sentence after sentence with no sense of Kambil's personality and then we're TOLD about how delighted Kambil is and how he doesn't let it show on his face. quote:“Well, I believe it’s time for us to go,” Velim said as he rose to his feet, the others quickly following his example. “Would you like us to escort you back out to the beginning of your respective wings?” All this to literally say "your Seating ceremony is tomorrow". I want the time I spent reading this chapter back. quote:“Thank you, but I believe we’ll remain here for a few moments longer,” Kambil replied, showing a still-disturbed smile. “It will probably be best if my groupmates and I establish a loose link, to be certain we remain in touch with one another even after we separate. That way we can Blend instantly if it should become necessary …” Annnnnd cue the mandatory debrief where they're all going to contribute one observation each and pat themselves on the backs. quote:“None of them made the least attempt to listen at the door, nor are any of the servants close enough to hear us,” he told his groupmates. “Did you see how frightened they became at the idea of us linking? I got the distinct impression that their previous Blending never did anything like that, which explains part of their overall nervousness.” In case you've forgotten everything that happened in the entire series to date. Also: two. quote:“I really sympathize with those poor dears,” Selendi said with a laugh from her place to Delin’s immediate right. “They have to have a Seated Blending in order for them to continue to run the empire, but the only Blending available is one which is far too strong for them to control easily. I wonder what they’ll do to try to force us to obey them— and who they’ll use to make the attempt.” Three. And I still want to know why Zolind's plan of "just kill them and Seat any random 5 people" isn't viable. They were literally competing as anonymous white-robed figures under team names "noble" vs "commoners". Nobody knows who any of them are. quote:“We’ll certainly find out after the ceremony tomorrow,” Homin, equally amused, said from the seat beyond Selendi’s. “We probably aren’t supposed to know it, but in the past there’s only been one ceremony. Saving our public Seating for another time probably means they intend to bargain with us, our complete cooperation in return for their allowing our Seating to become completely official. I wonder how they think they can keep it from happening.” Four. The more you think about the logistics, the more contrived the whole thing is. Also spoilers for Book 6 the Seating ceremony is a huge to do about nothing and is the most anti-climatic thing ever. quote:“I’m sure they have some plan, which is why I let them know we can link,” Kambil replied, sharing the general amusement. “They were probably counting on tackling us one at a time, but now they know that won’t be possible.” Five! And Delin suddenly becomes an idiot again. quote:“Delin, we’re not going to link,” Kambil explained as he automatically calmed the fool’s agitation. “If we do we’ll be wasting our strength, especially since I intend to keep alert against any sort of attack. If someone tries something I’ll initiate the Blending, which will protect us from anything they care to try. You do remember that we can Blend even when at a distance from one another?” How does Kambil plan to do this while he's asleep? quote:“And don’t worry about our being powerless,” Bron added when Delin nodded jerkily to Kambil’s question. “They can threaten not to hold the public Seating ceremony, but they won’t be able to follow through on the threat. The only official power the Advisory Board has is through the Seated Blending, and that remains true no matter how far they’ve gone past it unofficially. If they keep us from being Seated, they’ll just be cutting their own throats.” this is the most convoluted reasoning ever. Like, we're talking an entire Empire that basically runs according to the same set of rules that the Aes Sedai in the White Tower use as a basis for power (and the taboo around that in WoT STILL makes zero sense to me when it's such an obvious thing in-world). I can't follow any of the logic in here: these guys, save for Our Heroes, are currently the strongest magical talents around. And also the only ones who know how to Blend, since at this point all of their tutors are dead. Green's setting these guys up to be total despots and we do not need the number of pages she dedicates to this kind of faffing around. quote:“Yes, of course, you’re right,” Delin said after Kambil touched him with complete belief. “I’d forgotten about that, and I appreciate your reminding me. So let’s forget about those fools and go have a look at our new quarters.” I miss competent, scary-charming Delin. quote:Kambil smiled as his group of personal servants came forward to greet him and introduce themselves, and then he let them lead the way into his wing. After he had a look around he would find a comfortable spot for privacy, and then he would do some thinking. Any ultimata would not be presented by Velim, that was absolutely certain. They would be brought by the real powers on the Advisory Board, the men who were closest to the late Zolind and who hadn’t shown themselves today. This. THIS. So much wasted potential. This is the alternate storyline I want. quote:Delin made himself comfortable with a cup of tea in the beautiful little study while a meal was being prepared for him, enjoying being alone after that tour. Just randomly changing POV now without a section break! Fonda Lee does POV shifts seamlessly and to great effect. Green does not. quote:He’d never really stopped to think about it sooner, but the term “wing” actually meant what it suggested. There were thirty bedchambers in his wing, most of them part of actual apartments, and that didn’t count servants’ quarters. The kitchens were enormous, there were four dining rooms of varying sizes, and two gigantic ballrooms. There were also three libraries, four conference rooms of different sizes, and half a dozen small meeting rooms, none of which included his private suite. This place is a security nightmare. quote:The tea in his cup tasted better than any tea he’d ever had, especially since he’d taken the trouble to check it with his talent before drinking it. He’d do the same with the food they brought, and then he would enjoy it even more than the tea. He’d finally made it to where he belonged, to where he deserved to be, and he had no intention of denying himself a single moment of the pleasure. TEA. quote:Despite the fact that the Advisors would try to take it away from him. Delin’s fist clenched in fury as he remembered that, also remembering how lightly his groupmates had taken the danger. Apparently they were too innocent to understand just how difficult the Advisors could make life for them, which was why it was a good thing he was their leader. He knew trouble when he saw it, and was also prepared to do something about it. I'm on the verge of tears switching back to this drivel after reading Tamsyn Muir's amazing writing. quote:A smile finally turned Delin’s lips, brought about by the discovery of the one feature of his wing that he’d taken the trouble to ask about : the section of his personal guard used for political assassinations. He’d discovered their existence by the merest accident, having thumbed through the private journal of the late husband of one of his group of older women. The man had found out about the assassins and had feared he’d become one of their victims because of the knowledge, and there the journal had abruptly ended. seriously how is personal security in the Blendingverse not a huge business? quote:Delin had asked the woman how her husband had died, and she’d told him the death was perfectly natural. She’d also told him that no one else had read the journal, and she’d even forgotten it was there. The slut was such a woolhead that when Delin took the journal with him, she’d never noticed. After reading it carefully Delin had destroyed it, making sure in that way that no one else would be able to discover what he had. ...except for whoever you asked to confirm this for you. quote:And now he stood in a position to make use of his knowledge. He’d spoken to the head of his guard only briefly, but certainly long enough to determine that there would be no hesitation on anyone’s part in accepting his orders. They would do exactly as he told them to, and the orders he gave after he finished his meal would be a schedule for tomorrow, to be carried out after he and the others were Seated. If the Blendings for the last two centuries have been corrupt nobles and nobody knows anybody who ever survived the previous competitions and each of the Blendings had access to five assassination hit squads, how the hell did the Advisory Board ever maintain power to control this process let alone this charade? Did none of the outgoing Blendings ever think, gee, let me just keep assassinating people so I can stay in power? I refuse to believe nobody ever thought of assassinating Zolind with their hit squad before. quote:But tonight, tonight would be the sublime end to a lifetime of fear and misery. Delin’s heart beat faster at the thought of it, excitement and delight causing his blood to rush about. Tonight he would have his parents brought to him secretly, gagged, of course, and he would sit and watch as they were slowly put to death. His mother, the slut, deserved death for never having protected him, but his father … as long as his father continued to live, Delin knew he would never find it possible to breathe freely. I know this is meant to be a "look at what a horrible, messed up person Delin is" moment. It is not landing at all, because this is just...cartoonishly villainous. quote:Tonight would be marvelous, then, and afterward he’d have to think about seeing to Kambil. He was certain he’d meant to do something about the man sooner, and couldn’t imagine why he hadn’t. Ah well, tomorrow was another day, with any number of days coming after that…. Summary: Day 24 Kambil temporarily lets Delin off his mind slave leash when a bunch of old white dudes a.k.a. the incompetent subset of the Advisory Board show up on their doorstep to escort them to the palace and inform them they'll be Seated in a few days—because in the Empire of Gandistra, apparently it is normal for the most powerful nobles around to play flunkies. Also Delin gets very excited by the fact that he has a private hit squad and sends them off to assassinate everybody on his kill list. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 53 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil Book 4: Fasher, Wirn, Bowes, Ditras, Rovelon, Lord Advisor Velim Shoons TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 33 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Mardimil house in Gan Garee, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 34 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch, a late afternoon bite, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3; 1 in Book 4) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x2), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 129 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 61 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 19 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 36 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 133 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 72 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 78 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 38 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 10 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 24(5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 14, including 4 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 2 in Book 4, 2 of which are rape scenes) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: In this entire, 4,287 word chapter, nothing meaningful changes. They move to the palace, a date has been set for their Seating, and Kambil lets Delin off the leash. It sounds like change, but it's not. It's just a series of plot points. Neither of the scenes evoke any emotion in me as a reader and that's why I'm bored. Despite my nitpicking on how none of it makes sense, I don't think the problem is with the plot points. I think it's a POV choice problem, and flowing from there, a scene choice problem. In an interview with Green linked in the OP, she said that this story demanded multiple POVs. It does, but not in the way she thinks it does. This chapter, like the Vallant rescue chapter, would have been so much better from Velim's perspective for this specific sequence of events. Being in Kambil's POV tells us nothing new: we know the nobility are incompetent, we know that Kambil and co can steamroll everybody magically, we know Kambil's been controlling Delin. Being in Delin's POV for the second part doesn't tell us anything new either: we know he's unhinged, we know he's sadistic, and we know he hates his parents. Velim, like Eltrina, could have advanced our insight into what's going on with the truly powerful amongst the nobility. The most powerful Advisor just died, very suspiciously. A new Blending not under their control is running around expecting to be Seated. He probably should have heard some reports about Tamrissa and co escaping. He probably has very specific instructions from the remaining powerful Advisors. His POV could have been written as "guy who really shouldn't be on the Advisory Board, knows it, and is getting the hell out of the Empire while he can because these people are insane and nobody can stop them" or as "guy who really shouldn't be on the Advisory Board, doesn't know it, and by the end of the meeting is terrified". Either way, it would serve the purpose of setting up Kambil and co to be despots that need to be overthrown for the good of the Empire. The other good POV to do this from would be Delin's POV, of him coming back to himself after Kambil put him under control. Then you would have tension, because you've got Kambil feeding him a lie at the beginning, and you could have Delin potentially sensing Kambil's lying (because Earth magic), then you would get all of his inner turmoil and thoughts through the nothing meeting (which would actually make the meeting interesting, because Delin's trying to read everybody's reactions), and then you could end the scene on Delin figuring out Kambil has been lying to him. There's also the option of having Delin tell Kambil he needs a minute or something at the very beginning, a quick line to note that Delin speaks privately to the head of his guard, and then extend the end of the scene through to his parents being brought in. (And depending on how grimdark you want to go and how much of a character arc you want for Delin, have the torture scene happen on the page. Green, obviously, doesn't because she's not writing grimdark so it will all happen off-page and we just see characters reacting to it later.)
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 11:52 |
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Leng posted:seriously how is personal security in the Blendingverse not a huge business? It absolutely should be. In a world where you can literally detect lies, why wouldn't important nobles have mid-level Earth and Spirit talents in their retinues constantly to keep an eye on the people around them and discreetly signal, as well as watching out for mind control since it seems like nobody but a full Blending can use it en masse?
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 04:03 |
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This series has so much wasted potential. As soon as Kambil let Delin come back to himself I thought the whole point was to deceive the advisors, since Delin’s not lying to them. But nope! They don’t even try to detect that and the others are all there knowingly lying anyway.
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 08:38 |
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It's not even 'they might notice Delin's not being a psychotic narcissist', because they'd absolutely notice the wild personality changes in the other three.
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# ? Oct 31, 2022 08:44 |
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quote:CHAPTER ELEVEN What does this even mean? quote:Naran had fallen asleep not long after we left my old neighborhood, and Rion and Vallant Ro hadn’t awakened at any point. I felt completely alone again, but touching the power made the loneliness slightly more bearable. It also helped that Meerk was there for us, assuming he’d been telling the complete truth. If only Jovvi or Lorand could have been there to confirm what Meerk had said… What? How would Tamrissa be immediately aware of their death? quote:The comfort of that thought let me nod off again, but as soon as our rate of motion changed I awoke again. The coach had begun to slow, and the darkened neighborhood showed hulking warehouses standing silent all around. Some of them looked abandoned, while others were littered with debris showing how casually uncaring their users were. There was no pride of ownership visible—if the owners of warehouses ever did show pride. I’d never been anywhere near a neighborhood like that before, so I had no idea how such people thought. I hate being in Tamrissa's POV. quote:The coach passed an intersection of streets at the slower pace, then slowed even more as we approached the middle of the block. Meerk, who had been riding on the box with the driver, dropped off the coach at a run, and not just to maintain his balance. He continued to run until he reached a wide door in one of the buildings, which he then drew open. I didn’t know how really wide it was until the coach passed through with inches to spare, taking us into a dim, vast, lanternlit area. As the driver pulled his horses to a stop, I heard the wide door being closed behind us. It would have been smart if one of you tried to stay awake to see where they were taking you. quote:“And people are starting to appear from somewhere, looking as sleepy as you sound.” Honestly, she was doing a pretty terrible job of it. quote:“Since I’m not currently on my feet, I don’t think we have to worry about it,” I commented, paying more attention to Meerk and the man he spoke with. The conversation was too low for me to hear, but they didn’t seem to be exchanging any secret nods to indicate prearranged plans, nor were they looking particularly furtive. Just because you guys are terrible at intrigue doesn't mean other people are. (Not-spoilers: Meerk is not doing any intrigue though.) quote:The man rubbed his eyes while listening to Meerk, nodded as he ran his hands through his hair, then turned to a group of other men while Meerk headed back to the coach. So you guys are just forging all the bills of lading and the invoices then? Real answer: Green probably doesn't understand how the three-way match works. That, or perhaps Gandistra never developed the control that is the three-way match, considering their universities also never developed a proper citation system. quote:“Is everyone here part of your organization?” I asked, watching the man Meerk had called Paisin What is wrong with simply writing "Paisin" instead of this convoluted mess? quote:send people in different directions before starting to lead six big men toward us. Everybody is a big, powerfully built man. Vallant is, Rion is, Lorand is, Camil is, Meerk is, basically everybody, except Pagin, I guess, because he's an hostler. quote:“They all seem to know what’s going on so I suppose they are, but what about the men who work here during the day? Surely some of them aren’t members.” Paisin Phile!? quote:“We’re very relieved to see you ladies, and the gentlemen as well,” Paisin Phile said politely. He was a tall, thin man who looked as though he were weak-willed or possibly waspish, but his even, friendly tone and the smile on his long face belied that. Oh I guess Green remembered that there are descriptors for men other than "big". quote:“We were afraid Alsin hadn’t been able to locate you, and you were wandering around the city only two steps away from being found and arrested. This would have been far more interesting to read. quote:We ought to be able to keep you safe here, at least for a while. If you’ll excuse us for a minute?” That typo is in the ebook. quote:“The front of the floor looks perfectly normal with crates and bales,” Alsin continued, “but those crates and bales are just for show. Behind them is where our people stay when, for one reason or another, they can’t go home. Sometimes, like tonight, they stay because there’s work to be done.” We will never find out what "work" it is that Meerk's organization does. quote:“And what do you do when you’re not rescuing people who are rightfully the next Seated Blending?” I asked, finding it easy to keep the bitterness out of my tone. I felt much too tired to be bitter, but possibly tomorrow I’d be able to manage it. Hearing this for the fifth or whatever time it is doesn't make this sound any less stupid. quote:Once it forced us loose from our abilities, Middles in Earth magic put us to sleep. That’s why we dropped as though poleaxed, and that’s why we stayed down.” This confrontation in Book 5 is going to be stupid beyond belief. quote:Why were you able to trace me and Rion and Vallant, but not Jovvi and Lorand?” ...you guys have MAGIC. Seriously no one in Meerk's organization is a Middle talent in Spirit magic? Jovvi escaped all that conditioning because she grew up on the streets; she can't be the only one. Is the "mental trail" that we saw Kambil follow that time Delin decided to go get his rocks off by killing someone something only a High can do? Who knows?! quote:“I’m suddenly furious with myself,” I said as an abrupt realization hit me. “If Eltrina Razas was able to have Vallant brought to her, she knows where he was taken. That means she might also know where the others were sent, and I made no effort to question her. Of all the stupid oversights …” Finally sinking in, huh? quote:“No, you’re wrong,” he said, looking as though the same sort of revelation had struck him as well. “I’m the stupid one, because I was told when Dom Ro was brought to the Razas woman, and I made no effort to find out if the watchers followed the wagon back to where it had come from! drat! It’s too late to send for the men now, but first thing in the morning—!” How does anything ever get done in this universe if everybody's always so incompetent? quote:He turned and took the stairs two at a time, able to go all the way to the top and beyond because the men with their burdens had already disappeared. A glance back showed that our coach had also left, and the wide door was once again closed tight. That left nothing for me to do but raise my skirts and follow everyone upstairs, although I wouldn’t have minded being carried myself. All you did was sit in a room, eat, sit in another room, eat, sit in a room and touch the power, then walk down a driveway, get ferried around in a coach, and summon fire two more times without even breaking a sweat. quote:It been a long, tiring day, and was destined to be even longer. Of all things, TEA? quote:“No decent host would put an honored guest to the trouble of warming her own tea,” he replied with a grin that softened his craggy features almost to the point of attractiveness. “If you’ll be so kind as to follow me, I’ll show you to where you can sit and enjoy that cup of tea.” How does Green make even secret entrances in clandestine warehouses sound boring? quote:From where I stood it was possible to see nothing but two long corridors, one stretching straight ahead on my right, and the second doing the same to the left. We stood in a fairly wide entrance area that was lit with lamps, more lamps spaced along the walls of both corridors. There was nothing in the way of decoration to be seen, and in fact the place looked as though it were made of crate facings. If we just deleted half the words, it'd read so much better: "Two long corridors stretched right and left from the wide entrance." I can't do anything about the other bit of description except rewrite it: "Lamplight flickered over the walls which were made of crate facings." It's still boring. quote:“Your friends were taken that way,” Alsin said, pointing up the corridor to the right. “I’ll show you where they are on the way to that hot cup of tea, so you won’t spend your time wondering.” YOU HAVE EARTH MAGIC. You didn't need to believe anything, you literally know how to tell if he's lying. quote:No one else believed him, though, Nobody else in that tavern had Earth or Spirit magic?! quote:so I had no trouble becoming the one he lost his money to. It was a good thing I did, too, because he was making every effort to cheat.” Green has a thing for conference rooms and BDSM. I'm pretty shocked that there are no BDSM scenes in conference rooms in these books. quote:and I wondered if Paisin was in the process of passing on whatever orders Alsin had given him. Does no one in your organization know how to track people? quote:and I can’t help feeling that if I’d located him I’d have some idea about where your missing friends are. I also can’t shake the conviction that something is going on that none of us knows about, something the nobility is involved in that they don’t want us to know about.” So many glaring plot holes here. If everybody can sense strength of everybody else in the same aspect while touching the power, how has this charade never been blow apart? But I mean, yes, let this happen, this would be interesting! quote:“Personally, I’d hate to be that winning candidate,” I said, trying to be gentle about bringing him down to earth. “Do I have to tell you what’s most likely to happen to the person? They’ll be able to insist on seeing to the winner themselves, away from all those witnesses in the audience. At that point they’d be able to do anything to him, possibly even causing a fatal ‘accident’ after neutralizing him with hilsom powder. Do you really want to throw someone’s life away like that?” Argh stop doing this! Let your characters do dumb things! Let your characters die in an attempt to overthrow the corrupt system! Let them learn from their mistakes! Let there be some conflict instead of boring chapter after boring chapter of your characters being ferried around in coaches to have meetings in coaches or to go to other meetings where they'll be sitting around drinking tea and talking about all the reasons why they shouldn't do anything. Geez. quote:It’s just that it’s now become worse than ever, to accept having them running things when I know for a fact that they don’t deserve to. And your friends should be in there.” It took more than 3 books to get the point of Tamrissa actually showing an inkling of concern for Vallant as a person. quote:We’d been walking toward the room without a door as we talked, and now Alsin moved ahead to enter it first. When I followed I saw a large room containing a number of tables and chairs, with another doorless entry directly opposite the one I stood in. Although there was seating for more, the room only had three small groups of men, seated separately. Some of the men ate and some simply drank whatever was in their cups, and Alsin had walked over to one of the groups. After he spoke to the three men, they nodded and rose and left the room the way we’d just come in. WHY HAVE WE SPENT 331 WORDS TALKING ABOUT TEA LOGISTICS?! quote:One of the men sitting in the room gasped, and Alsin glanced at him questioningly until he picked up his cup again. Oh, right. It's been two whole chapters since we had someone remark on how incredibly strong Tamrissa is. quote:Just then the three men who had left abruptly returned, two of them carrying Vallant Ro’s still-limp body. The third seemed to be in charge of leading the way, probably to open and close doors. We waited until they passed through the room, then Alsin led the way toward the table where the man Gorliss sat. 337 words to establish how amazing Tamrissa is. Just in case you didn't know that you're supposed to love her. Also you guys will not, in fact, deserve to be Seated because you have not done anything to earn it, other than being born super awesome strong. quote:The men all agreed with that rather more strongly than I expected them to, and then Alsin excused us and led the way to a table a short distance away. He seated me before settling into his own chair, and then he smiled rather wearily. Get ready for some infodumping. quote:Do you have any idea how hard it is for people to make something of themselves in our society? I’m not talking about people with no ethics or conscience, because people like that always manage to prosper—at the expense of those around them. I’m talking about your average man or woman, ordinary, decent people.” Tamrissa spends her whole life completely ignorant, without ever trying to discover any of this, gets one speech from Alsin and not only becomes woke, but also immediately starts wielding Facts and Logic. quote:“Like what?” he asked, the amusement gone again. “Recruit an army and depose the nobles by force? Not only does that go against everything we believe in, it just isn’t possible. It takes experience and training to use the talents of an army effectively, and no one among us has that. It’s been far too long since our empire had an army, so any veterans we might have recruited are long since dead.” Which means, of course, it is extremely relevant. quote:What is relevant is that your plans will never work. I’m sorry to have to tell you that, but I prefer to hurt your feelings rather than stand back and watch you die. Thank you for the tea. I think I’m ready to sleep now.” quote:Opening the door quietly to the spartan communal bedchamber showed that Naran now slept as soundly as Rion. I slipped inside and closed the door again just as quietly, tiptoed to the door on the far side of the room in an effort to locate privacy facilities, and was glad to find them just behind the door. I used them quickly, then returned to the outer room where I chose a cot to lie down on. We needed this entire paragraph about Tamrissa going to the bathroom...why? quote:I was hardly used to sleeping in my clothes, but if Naran had been able to do it then I had the hope of being able to do the same. OH NO HAVING TO SLEEP IN MY CLOTHES WHAT HORROR quote:Hope … I lay on my right side, the tiny pillow under my cheek, my gaze on Naran and Rion. Although both lay sound asleep, they nevertheless continued to hold hands. That was probably what being able to hope did for you, which was why I’d never have what they did between them. No, it's because you and Vallant don't actually have any basis for your relationship beyond that he thinks you're hot. quote:I could hope to fall asleep, but I’d never learn to hope for any situation which had the power to bring such incredible pain if it didn’t succeed. When it didn’t succeed … Summary: Day 24 Kambil temporarily lets Delin off his mind slave leash when a bunch of old white dudes a.k.a. the incompetent subset of the Advisory Board show up on their doorstep to escort them to the palace and inform them they'll be Seated in a few days—because in the Empire of Gandistra, apparently it is normal for the most powerful nobles around to play flunkies. Also Delin gets very excited by the fact that he has a private hit squad and sends them off to assassinate everybody on his kill list. Tamrissa and co arrive at Meerk's super secret base of operations in some random warehouse in a place that—oh wait, nobody bothered to try and figure it out. They enter, Meerk gives Tamrissa a tour, takes her to the cafeteria for tea, so she can warm everybody's tea and have them all swoon over how strong she is. Alsin explains how society works to her; she in turn tells him he's an idiot for thinking that a commoner watchdog organization would ever be successful in holding nobles accountable for violating laws. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 53 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil Book 4: Fasher, Wirn, Bowes, Ditras, Rovelon, Lord Advisor Velim Shoons, TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 33 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre Book 4: Bedroom in Lord Lanir's house, Mardimil house in Gan Garee, Eltrina's disappointing sex MEALS ON-SCREEN: 34 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2; 7 in Book 3) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch) Book 2: Day 6 (dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace) Book 3: Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2), Day 22 (breakfast) Book 4: Day 23 (lunch, a late afternoon bite, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 9 in Book 3; 1 in Book 4) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1), him (x2) Female: womanhood (x2), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1), body (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2; 3 introduced in Book 3) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 129 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2; 56 in Book 3) COACH RIDES: 62 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2; 10 in Book 3) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 19 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2; 4 in Book 3) OTHER MEETINGS: 36 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 134 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2; 34 in Book 3) "CLIFFHANGERS": 72 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2; 30 in Book 3) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) TEA DRINKING: 79 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2; 19 in Book 3) BLATANT MORALIZING: 39 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2; 11 in Book 3) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 3 in Book 3) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 10 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 2 in Book 3) MIND CONTROL: 24 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2; 15 in Book 3) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 14, including 4 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene; 6 in Book 3, including 1 rape scene; 2 in Book 4, 2 of which are rape scenes) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) SPIRIT MAGIC/PUREDAN RETCONS: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: We're doing a rebellion plotline here. Lots of things need to happen to overthrow an existing power regime. Why would you set up something like this organization and have them be completely incompetent? There's no point talking about micro scene level fixes for this one. This is a plot-level issue that needs to be fixed at the book level so we'll save the discussion for later.
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The incompetence totally makes sense... if they're a stalking horse for either the nobles or one of the other countries looking to find actually competent dissidents.
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Liquid Communism posted:The incompetence totally makes sense... if they're a stalking horse for either the nobles or one of the other countries looking to find actually competent dissidents. So later in this book, or early in the next, we discover that the nobles knew all about Meerk's organization and has been deliberately ensuring Alsin stays in leadership because he's an ineffectual leader for revolution purposes. It's a great idea for his character arc but is so problematic in the context of what the story is trying to do in the page count that it has in the timeline that the plot takes to unfold.
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