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Is there any place that has a breakdown of what was wrong with WL2? I played through it once, all the way through, and had a blast. It's been since it came out that I actually played it though.
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I remember reading the old thread. Besides some trap skill choices I think the main complaint was the camera system. I really didn't have any issues playing W2 and I smashed through it over about a month of solid completionist play, which I can rarely say about most games these days
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Aug 24, 2020 21:53
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iirc, the LA section was pretty broken on launch. As in quest chains not working as they should. Edit: On the flip side - the game has terrifying, ear-piercing, goats you can befriend. And then promptly lead into a mine field, Full Throttle style. itry fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Aug 24, 2020 21:58
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Well just got the email that my keys are here. itry posted:Edit: On the flip side - the game has terrifying, ear-piercing, goats you can befriend. And then promptly lead into a mine field, Full Throttle style. That right there sounds like it makes up for a lot of potential flaws
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Aug 24, 2020 22:12
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Doesn't it release Friday? Guess you can pre-load with the keys or whatever e: I'm jelly
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Aug 24, 2020 22:15
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BULBASAUR posted:Doesn't it release Friday? Guess you can pre-load with the keys or whatever That's what it looks like. Don't know if GOG does pre load or not, but it added to my account well enough. I'm away from my main rig for a while. I've got enough of a backlog that I'm happy to sit back and let other people deal with all the bugs and growing pains that I expect to be with this game as I do recall that there was a pretty significant amount of post-launch patching for WL2.
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Aug 24, 2020 22:19
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Trap skills didn't bother me so much as poo poo like lockpicking and safecracking being different skills, like there's ever going to be someone that only takes one of them? The game improved 100% once I just cheated a character with max in all the unlock skills so I didn't have to waste hours finding out if "Toaster Repair" was worth it or just an unfunny joke.
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Aug 24, 2020 22:21
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No reviews yet, most previews I've seen range from 'this is going to be good' to 'flawed, but acceptable' so expect in the 70s if numbers are a thing you desire.
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Aug 24, 2020 22:21
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Kind of wish that backing this would give me some Early Access kind of thing, I'm not gonna lie.
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Aug 25, 2020 00:00
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Most backer levels did have early access. I intentionally ignored mine since the released game is always better and I just wanna play once
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Co-op trailer. Editted to Add: https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/1297950691944615937
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Aug 25, 2020 00:32
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Furism posted:Kind of wish that backing this would give me some Early Access kind of thing, I'm not gonna lie. If you backed the game in, like, 2016 or whenever you got beta access. I’m just so done with early access stuff that I didn’t bother, I think it’s been running since March. Plenty of stuf out there if you look.
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Aug 25, 2020 00:56
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It is ridiculous that we have reached a point where even a game like Wasteland 3 is fully voice-acted. Not that it is unheard of but it goes to show how much Larian has set the bar for everything being fully voice-acted even if retro-themed
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Aug 25, 2020 02:01
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more studios really should go the POE or disco elysium route where lots of characters have voices but only a few important lines here and there are voiced - enough so you get an idea of how the person talks and can imagine it in your head without spending half their drat time and budget on it
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Aug 25, 2020 02:52
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Yeah I honestly do not know who these people are who get mad if they cannot hear Villager speak the line "Seems like the storms are getting worse." I am not going to say Fallout had the best system ever where voiced characters were such a big deal that they basically were their own mini-games, but having an important subset of characters voice their lines can be used in so many ways to emphasize something to pay attention to, or to let you know who is going to come up again, or whatever. You N'wah
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Aug 25, 2020 07:09
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BULBASAUR posted:Most backer levels did have early access. Oh I have, and I played the beta (just not a lot because I didn't want to overdose). I just want to play the final game right now, especially since I received my keys. 
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Aug 25, 2020 09:35
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Dr. Quarex posted:Yeah I honestly do not know who these people are who get mad if they cannot hear Villager speak the line "Seems like the storms are getting worse." It just seems like having it 100% voice acted is going to just drag things out some unless you're constantly mashing whatever "skip dialog" button there is.
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Aug 25, 2020 16:23
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Vhak lord of hate posted:Trap skills didn't bother me so much as poo poo like lockpicking and safecracking being different skills, like there's ever going to be someone that only takes one of them? Yeah I played the game legit until California and then decided that it felt better to just start fresh and give every character an extra 7 attributes and a free perk from level 1. Just letting your average stat be 1 point higher made the whole game just feel better and more fun. Then I played with one of the overhaul mods and had a blast even if the balance was fuuuuuuucked.
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Aug 25, 2020 17:59
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I probably would have had fun if I cheated but instead I tried to play it straight until all the intentionally frustrating things got to be too much, including: picking an energy weapon specialist having some of my characters use secondary melee styles, but not the correct one "random" encounters that are actually the same encounters happening over and over, with no loot and no actual reason why you should spend an extra 30s traveling through the area to leave after the enemies are dead trying to trade with a doctor/vendor before finding a quest item, immediately turning him into a zombie that attacked me killing said zombie and having two of my followers leave the team, leaving me down one vendor, one doctor, and two followers altogether for not doing things in the proper order negotiating a peace deal between two tribes only to have one slaughter the other, reloading to see if there was something i missed that could change that outcome and nope, nothing you can do. hope you enjoyed the several hours you lost redoing that scenario accidentally setting off a nuke in my base and being pissed off until I saw credits rolling and realized that counted as "finishing" the game.
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Aug 25, 2020 21:17
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I like it when games are fully voiced, and I refuse to skip dialogue. If you've got some dumb self-indulgent monologuing then I want to hear the whole stupid thing, lay it on me.
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exquisite tea posted:I like it when games are fully voiced, and I refuse to skip dialogue. If you've got some dumb self-indulgent monologuing then I want to hear the whole stupid thing, lay it on me. Now I judge the quality of voice acting entirely on how many characters can actually keep me invested in wanting to hear rather than just quickly read what they have to say. Tayn from the Pillars of Eternity expansion Forgotten Sanctum is the only character that comes to mind for someone whose dialogue I never skipped, and that really indicates I have no business holding an opinion on this subject
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So yay. Here is comes. Very excited. I will update the stuff as I play but will it might be a bit. If anyone finds out cool stuff I will add it to the OP as I can. Very jazzed for Wasteland 3. Now... for w2 Rhandhali posted:Is there any place that has a breakdown of what was wrong with WL2? I played through it once, all the way through, and had a blast. It's been since it came out that I actually played it though. itry posted:iirc, the LA section was pretty broken on launch. As in quest chains not working as they should. Call Your Grandma posted:I probably would have had fun if I cheated but instead I tried to play it straight until all the intentionally frustrating things got to be too much, including: W2 was a flawed but still very fun game. Trap attributes was a big thing. Some of the companions were just useless. I mean utterly useless. No way to reroll their stats so if you get someone who has awful stats post 10 they were a millstone around your neck and could never hold their own weight. One guy had an awesome ending to the game but was just so mediocre. Also some of those companies lied behind ridiculous Charisma gateways. Another big one was quests. Cali especially had just broken quest chains. One example of not really broken but just poorly implemented is this dude wanting you to bring him items that didn't spawn in California. These items were Arizonia junk that in no way was marked so who the balls would have saved some unless you read a walkthrough first. Other quests were just utterly bugged and broken. Hope you like reloading saves and rolling the die if it works this time. Energy Weapons was awful. Really only one good energy weapon all game and still the only enemy that was worth using it on was Bots. Not the cyborgs nor the majority of the games enemies but bots. The perks to add damage to non conductive enemies? Still made it mediocre and beat by anything else. Good news is Pizepi had decent stats and came with energy weapons so no need to use that with anyone else. I made her my secondary Fisto and she did quite well. Melee and punching poo poo wins. Just accept that no bullet or zap will hurt as bad as a fist. That giant robot? Punch it proper. Hit it with a stick or a sword. Assault weapons and sniper rifles are the best guns.. all the rest are meh. Also warning. Save scum. Save often and save scum. Something breaks? You can go back to a save. Your 90% chance fails? Save scum. Your quest bugs? Reload that save you scum. Accidentally press that button and make the base go kaboom? Laugh and reload. Just let go of that pride you have with not loading saves. You will feel better. All this may sound like its a bad game but it isn't still a ton of fun to play and finished it for the last time right as I made this very thread. It's a ton of fun but she do have some quirks. DogsInSpace! fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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DogsInSpace! posted:So yay. Here is comes. Very excited. I will update the stuff as I play but will it might be a bit. If anyone finds out cool stuff I will add it to the OP as I can. Very jazzed for Wasteland 3. How much of all that was fixed in the Director's Cut version? I don't remember it being as janky as the original release.
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I remember in particular a lot of the "save this for the second half of the game" items were now marked as quest items. There were also more enemies wearing heavy armor to make energy weapons better.
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I remember liking Wasteland 2 a bunch but honestly don't remember anything specific about it. Is there a good summary of what happened for background to 3? I assume there's going to be some amount of connection even though it's taking place in a different area.
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Grand Fromage posted:I remember liking Wasteland 2 a bunch but honestly don't remember anything specific about it. Is there a good summary of what happened for background to 3? I assume there's going to be some amount of connection even though it's taking place in a different area. Ranger HQ gets destroyed at the end. The fight against the Cochise AI has left them and their allies largely spent. But then they get an offer from a dude in Colorado and that's where WL3 starts.
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Dr. Quarex posted:Now I judge the quality of voice acting entirely on how many characters can actually keep me invested in wanting to hear rather than just quickly read what they have to say. Tayn from the Pillars of Eternity expansion Forgotten Sanctum is the only character that comes to mind for someone whose dialogue I never skipped, and that really indicates I have no business holding an opinion on this subject Are you telling me you interrupted The Great Concelhaut? How dare you!
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Furism posted:Are you telling me you interrupted The Great Concelhaut? How dare you! Oh, right. Wasteland 3. I really wish I had ever actually started my second playthrough once the Director's Cut came out.
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Learning this comes out in 2 days just made my day. I'm not saying I absolutely loved WL2 but these kind of games are absolutely my jam (I never finished it and the early game guilt trip can go straight to hell) and I just found myself wondering what to play next.
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Call Your Grandma posted:I probably would have had fun if I cheated but instead I tried to play it straight until all the intentionally frustrating things got to be too much, including: You can reach a peaceful resolution in that quest. The nuke is a joke ending. Don't play with nukes.
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itry posted:Don't play with nukes, kid. Fixed your last sentence to match your avatar.
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Reviews seem to be hitting now and look very good from what I’ve seen. OpenCritic: https://opencritic.com/game/9140/wasteland-3 MetaCritic: https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/wasteland-3
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Aug 26, 2020 14:10
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So proud of this game I have absolutely no right to be proud of
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sean10mm posted:How much of all that was fixed in the Director's Cut version? I don't remember it being as janky as the original release. Still save often and don't feel bad about reloading is my advice. I mean.... you don't get any special rewards for not saving and it doesn't make you weak or awful. Just save often. itry posted:You can reach a peaceful resolution in that quest. The nuke is a joke ending. Don't play with nukes. edit2: The button on an obvious nuke in the HQ really isn't that tricky. I mean.... its a nuke with a big red button. Kinda like going with the obvious evil Matthias or Puritan Militaristic Preacher: you know what you are doing. The Southern Baptist style preacher you get warned about by his guys and the bloke himself tells you fairly quickly he wants to purge LA so... don't follow him if you want to be super nice sheriff dude. It's like doing a Legion run in New Vegas... if the crucified people and slavery don't tell you these are the bad guys then nothing will. As far as voiced games? I'm with you guys and would prefer important parts voiced but otherwise just not depend on it. I think many of us feel this way but its has been a VG101 trend for the past decade. I'm fairly sure big time producers/publishers/money guys only take a game seriously as non indie game if its 100% voiced. I'm ok if it's done well but I always felt it left the divergent paths a games a little narrow. PoE2 had a nice mix as well as Disco (from what I remember) but, again, this is a trend that won't end. People making the game think it is the more popular choice so then it is in every game and because it's in every game then it just becomes an expected part of big league games. It's the norm now so just press "x" for respect. edit: thanks goons - adding reviews to the OP - danke Anno DogsInSpace! fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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Aug 26, 2020 17:46
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What seems to be a reasonable approach when it comes to dividing up the skills in the party? One weapon skill and three exploration skills per ranger?
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Theres a pretty detailed starter guide here from someone who's finished the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMnJvrxS94 Looks like the OP Serial Killer quirk got nerfed but is still strong. He confirmed that the premade duo's do have unique voice acting and lines. He also has some good tips on item availability, which skills pay off and which don't. Brawling sounds sick as hell.
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Cool, thank you!
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Nephthys posted:Theres a pretty detailed starter guide here from someone who's finished the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMnJvrxS94 Thanks man.... adding to OP
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kk sold, got it on GOG. Cya all in one week for the after discussion
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