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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Great times call for great men


Nap Ghost

That Tucker mention got me tripping down the buyout rabbithole and here's a funny bit of trivia

If Lecavalier had not been bought out, this would have been the last year of his 11 year $7.5 million contract he got in 2009

Instead Tampa is still paying him ~$2 million a year until 2027

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Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006



Fun Shoe

So whose giving up their first round pick for Matt Murray?

He comes equipped with two stanley cup rings and fully flexible arms and legs*


*glove hand not included

Carver
Jan 14, 2003



Good Soldier Svejk posted:

That Tucker mention got me tripping down the buyout rabbithole and here's a funny bit of trivia

If Lecavalier had not been bought out, this would have been the last year of his 11 year $7.5 million contract he got in 2009

Instead Tampa is still paying him ~$2 million a year until 2027

hah i didn't even know about that one

Still doesn't beat Ricky D's though. $1.5M until 2029

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS


Ginette Reno posted:

So whose giving up their first round pick for Matt Murray?

He comes equipped with two stanley cup rings and fully flexible arms and legs*


*glove hand not included

Don't be surprised if it's the Avs.

Krime
Jul 30, 2003

Somebody has to do the scoring around here.


LumpyGumby posted:

Don't be surprised if it's the Avs.

No... Avs are going to land MAF and win the cup!

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!


Ginette Reno posted:

So whose giving up their first round pick for Matt Murray?

He comes equipped with two stanley cup rings and fully flexible arms and legs*


*glove hand not included

More concerned about the brain than the glove hand

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004



The KHL is hosed:

https://fullpresshockey.com/2020/09...ter-in-the-khl/

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


Yeah, this has been more or less clear for the past few weeks. But, Russia don't care so KHL don't care so they'll go through the season even if they'll be playing with VHL teams by the end of it.

Edit: Liiga is also pretty hosed, but they still have a week or so before they should start playing, so I can see them just postponing the season by a week or two, riding out their quarantines and then trying to put a very strict "Don't go anywhere except home and the rink" policy into place.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002


Kuule hain nussivan posted:

Yeah, this has been more or less clear for the past few weeks. But, Russia don't care so KHL don't care so they'll go through the season even if they'll be playing with VHL teams by the end of it.

Edit: Liiga is also pretty hosed, but they still have a week or so before they should start playing, so I can see them just postponing the season by a week or two, riding out their quarantines and then trying to put a very strict "Don't go anywhere except home and the rink" policy into place.

Please get Kratsov back pls Jeff, pls!

goldrush
Sep 27, 2005



Wait, but Russia's had a vaccine for months! They gave it to Putin's least favourite daughter, remember? How could Covid possibly still be an issue in the KHL?

Kuule hain nussivan
Nov 27, 2008


Matt Zerella posted:

Please get Kratsov back pls Jeff, pls!
No worries buddy, they're playing Salavat right now who are confirmed for at least a couple of positive players.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

I'M JUST HERE TO KISS TITTIESS AND WIN FOOTBALL GAMES!
(AND GET EVERYBODY FIRED)


Pillbug

Hmmm, and I saw yesterday that Josh Ho-Sang signed in the KHL

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



https://twitter.com/NHL_Watcher/sta...138456652779520

I want SO badly to see this fuckin book he made


E: and ho-sang hasn't signed anything

https://twitter.com/pbedell_/status/1307860514182225921

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky

90 pages about building a winning culture, nothing about what they actually need to do to get there

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



corn on the cop posted:

90 pages about building a winning culture, nothing about what they actually need to do to get there

The Fellowship of the Byng.




(it's the only one that rhymes.)

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



From the Athletic:

quote:

The Golden Knights current plan is to sign Lehner to a long-term contract, and what that means for Fleury is still up in the air. Fleury has a $7 million cap hit and a no-trade clause that allows him to list 10 teams he cant be traded to.

Speaking with Fleury on the phone from his home in Las Vegas, he said he doesnt know what is going to happen.

I want to stay in Vegas, he told The Athletic Wednesday afternoon. I dont know what the future holds, but Ive loved every moment since I got here.

Fleury emphasized that he is not seeking a trade, and if it were up to him he would finish his career in Vegas.

This team means a lot to me, and the city has been so good to me, Fleury said. The fans, and (owner Bill Foley) have been so awesome. Its a great team, and I thought when I came here that maybe I could retire here. I wanted to end my career here.

Even if Vegas does end up signing Lehner to a long-term deal, Fleury still isnt asking to be traded.

I get along great with Robin, so I think it would be all right, Fleury said. I still love to play. I dont think I just want to be a backup, but Ill practice hard, try to play well, and hopefully get some games, but it always comes down to the coachs decision. Whatever happens, happens. And thats fine. Ill just try my best to come to camp in good shape and do well from there.

Bregor
May 31, 2013

People are idiots, Leslie.


Aphrodite posted:

The Fellowship of the Byng.




(it's the only one that rhymes.)

"Playoffs, Armstrong, are they left or right?"

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Unexpected benefit: I'm having much more fun now.

Really.


DJExile posted:

From the Athletic:

I feel "bad" for MAF, just in terms of potentially uprooting his family again and leaving another community that he embraced (and vice-versa). He dedicated a lot of time to local groups in Pitt and LV, especially the latter in the wake of the 2017 shooting.

Took a glance at his wiki, and he now has 3 kids between 1 and 6 years old, and jeez his wife was also his high school girlfriend. Pretty cool that their relationship is a rare case of that working out so well.

I wonder if he'd consider retiring if the only other option was being traded to another city. Uncertainty about Covid will linger until he's 37+ years old, quarantining himself away from his kids next season would be awful, and he won rings and got paid.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002


DJExile posted:

https://twitter.com/NHL_Watcher/sta...138456652779520

I want SO badly to see this fuckin book he made

Bill has a three part plan to defeat losing hockey culture in the Middle West, around the world, and here at home.
1. Take out Taylor Hall's stronghold in New Jersey and Edmonton.
2. Dismantle the global old boys network.
3. Harden our defense at home and prevent attacks.

Bregor
May 31, 2013

People are idiots, Leslie.


kalensc posted:

I feel "bad" for MAF, just in terms of potentially uprooting his family again and leaving another community that he embraced (and vice-versa). He dedicated a lot of time to local groups in Pitt and LV, especially the latter in the wake of the 2017 shooting.

Took a glance at his wiki, and he now has 3 kids between 1 and 6 years old, and jeez his wife was also his high school girlfriend. Pretty cool that their relationship is a rare case of that working out so well.

I wonder if he'd consider retiring if the only other option was being traded to another city. Uncertainty about Covid will linger until he's 37+ years old, quarantining himself away from his kids next season would be awful, and he won rings and got paid.

Penguins hate aside, Flower is just a really cool dude. I feel like a lot of goalies have a very chill, quirky nature to them (see: Luongo). Hope things work out for him

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

But Schefter said they Love Herbert?!


Yeah it sucks as a Vegas fan, he's a great dude, been nothing but loyal, but it very much not up to being a 1a goalie any more and is paid too much to also pay a second goalie.

I honestly hope they eat the cost of paying both of them, even if it's definitely not the right move for the team.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!



Matt Zerella posted:

Bill has a three part plan to defeat losing hockey culture in the Middle West, around the world, and here at home.
1. Take out Taylor Hall's stronghold in New Jersey and Edmonton.
2. Dismantle the global old boys network.
3. Harden our defense at home and prevent attacks.

Defeat and dethrone god

Kilza
Oct 3, 2013



https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/st...205891317669890
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/s...212111235547136

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS


I've been a huge MAF fan since his time with the Pens, and I finally got a Fleury Knights jersey, so if he came to the Avs I'd bust a nut.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!


An interesting look at painkiller use in the NHL: https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-originals/vi...of-pain~2040291

Kilza
Oct 3, 2013



https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/s...232738835345410

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



Scevs is a good guy, I'm sad to see him go. Always a threat on the PK, the guy always finds a spot to make a break for it. Didn't see that one coming so much, blah.

Kinda funny how we've become the Penguins feeder team over the last few years, but it's always good to see our guys get that kind of opportunity.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001


EDIT: lmao that JR saw the reaction to the deal and made Florida add another asset

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Great times call for great men


Nap Ghost

The gently caress that's more expensive than Hornqvist and we don't need a left shooting d-man or a 4th liner

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



JR: "You will trade us a former first round pick defenseman for Patric Hornqvist"
Bill Zito: "We will trade you a former first round pick defenseman for Patric Hornqvist"
JR: "You will trade us Aaron Ekblad."
Bill Zito: "We will trade you Mike Matheson."
JR: "Done deal."
Zito: "Done deal."
JR: "Wait. gently caress."

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Great times call for great men


Nap Ghost

"It's a fair trade because if you put Matheson and Sceviour together they scored almost as many goals as Hornqvist did last season. I am a good GM"

e:
https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop...7300626440?s=20
gently caress me he's not even gonna ship off Johnson

https://twitter.com/JoshYohe_PGH/st...0386797570?s=20

Good Soldier Svejk fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Sep 24, 2020

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

HEY LITTLE SIDNEY WANT TO SEE MY CANNOLI?



Hopefully transitioning into a lovely team

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006



Fun Shoe

Yeah I'm ok with this move if it means JJ is going but I know it won't mean that so bleh.

Also I'll miss Hornqvist who was a big part of helping this team win two cups and who was an absolute fuckin' warrior. Yeah that's right, a warrior. Heatmaps don't explain a Hornqvist.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Great times call for great men


Nap Ghost

Ginette Reno posted:

Also I'll miss Hornqvist who was a big part of helping this team win two cups and who was an absolute fuckin' warrior. Yeah that's right, a warrior. Heatmaps don't explain a Hornqvist.

Hornqvist is rad and I think he'll easily keep having 20 goal (paced) seasons on a team that builds the powerplay around him/cycling the puck rather than rushing.
Sure he's not much of a skater and he takes a beating but he's also stupidly fit so I think he'll play the contract out and a be a powerplay boon for the Panthers all the while and as much as I ragged on him for not being able to keep up with Crosby/Malkin anymore this is not the sort of return I'd wanted for him at all

I'd have rather seen cap space sitting empty

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007



Adding a lovely 30 year old 4th line player doesn't make this trade better at all what the gently caress.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006



Fun Shoe

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Hornqvist is rad and I think he'll easily keep having 20 goal (paced) seasons on a team that builds the powerplay around him/cycling the puck rather than rushing.
Sure he's not much of a skater and he takes a beating but he's also stupidly fit so I think he'll play the contract out and a be a powerplay boon for the Panthers all the while and as much as I ragged on him for not being able to keep up with Crosby/Malkin anymore this is not the sort of return I'd wanted for him at all

I'd have rather seen cap space sitting empty

Guys like Hornqvist seem to age ok. Holmstrom was good well into his 30s. So I'm sure Hornqvist will be a decent powerplay specialist that isn't a liability 5v5.

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

Let's* go Blackhawks! The Blues and Red Wings suck.

it's always interesting to watch a GM take control of a championship level team and slowly dismantle it over several years

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006



Fun Shoe

Mike_V posted:

it's always interesting to watch a GM take control of a championship level team and slowly dismantle it over several years

Rutherford's a special case because he built the same team that he's now dismantling.

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Spelling Mitsake
Oct 4, 2007


Wayne Gretzky posted:

Once you realize that not only is hockey something you cannot influence or control but also that the motives of those involved on the level of institutional control are fundamentally incomprehensible and unknowable at the mortal fan level, once you have seen rich men dismantle a loved coherent structure for mysterious reasons, once you break with the illusion that hockey is for your enjoyment, you are free to become the good kind of fan

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