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organburner
Apr 10, 2011

This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.


So after living in apartments for 10 or so years I got tired of it and decided to gently caress back off to the country side and bought a "cheap" house about an hour from work (though in these corona times I am working remotely)
Buying anything closer to Helsinki woulda cost €€€ and even apartments in the area are way more expensive and lovely than a house I can do whatever I want with.



Two buildings, the shed/garage/misc thing on the left has a workshop, a place that can be used as a guest room that is currently filled with poo poo what needs to be thrown away or kept depending on the stuff in question, a place where the tractors used to go but now is mostly wood storage and a tiny added on garage that is too small to really be useful to me as a garage.



I didn't take any more pics of the "guest space" (might see about putting a home gym there later) because the stairs will not support my weight:


The garden has some apple trees and from here you can kinda see the deck my grand dad once decided to build on a whim (this place used to be in my family, it was briefly out when someone else bought it and kinda hosed some stuff up)


"Better" view of the deck:


Front door opens up to this:


From there we get the hallway:


These two doors both lead to the bathroom/shower/sauna for some reason? I think they were going to separate the bathroom from the shower which I want to do at some point:


The bathroom/shower is pretty big and in an L shape, unfortunately the toilet is smack dab in the middle of where you'd want the wall. Also there's no runoff for the washing machine so the hose is just put into the toilet bowl.
There is no shower curtain or cabin so you are just kinda showering in that big space which is also weird to me, being so used to cramped showers.


Sauna fits 3-4 but is currently full of stuff I need to get rid off before giving the sauna a good proper clean


Going back out to the entry way we have: Stairs up, door to stairs down to basement, door to living room...


Turning right we get door to kitchen:


Oh you noticed that, did you?
There used to be another toilet in a real narrow space here, now all that remains is concrete slab and pipes


Kitchen is, uh, well, not in use at the moment. Also full of poo poo.


Blurry pic of bedroom that is connected to kitchen and living room.


Living room as seen from the hallway

Anyone need a tv? It's full hd!

Stairs go up


to the landing that will also be my temporary kitchen:

Those two doors? Lead to the same space. I think someone meant to put up a wall so they'd be two separate rooms and it never happened.


Still in the process of moving but I will be living upstairs while getting downstairs livable. Upstairs is a more recent add-on and is ok.


Bed still lacks legs, but that's an easy enough fix for some day.


View from window:


Let's check out the attic space:


Oh no.


no no no


fffffuuuuccckkk

We will ignore that for now...

The house is full of "neat" "little" "touches"



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I'm gonna need an electrician to look at this at some point...

BASEMENT TIME


Stairs need replacing
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"Apple mash -92"



Basement itself


The floor was raised by one of the previous owners because the basement was always wet. Still is. So I gotta hunch over. Here you can see down to the original floor a bit better:



So, let's talk about background here.
My grandpa built this house in like the 50's or something. Originally he wanted it to be slightly higher up elevation wise but the land owner, also his father in law, refused to sell him the plot he wanted. As a result, the basement is kind of hosed, and there's a tiny sliver of plot right behind the house that is just forest. Too tiny a forest to be useful for that, and also not likely something you'd be granted permission to build on. I might try to buy this plot at some point in the future but don't know yet.
The house originally had no bathroom or upstairs, those were added later. When the bathroom was added more foundation was made and more basement space, but there was never a door or event wall put in to the new basement space. There is a window to it so it is accessible from the outside but uh... Yeah, no.
the most recent resident was my aunt and my parents owned the place. My dad didn't have time to do upkeep and my aunt was in no condition to do it either, so it's not in great shape. More recently my aunt had started smoking inside but "luckily" only downstairs. So the entire downstairs area needs to be renovated. As you can also see the place didn't get emptied when I bough it.
My grand dad, aunt and two cousins have lived here so it's full of "family stuff" but due to the smoking that happened most of the stuff is just gonna get thrown away. I may try to save some furniture though. I'd need to sand and repaint them so I'll take it on a case by case basis if no one else in the family wants it.

So here's what I hope will get done in this thread:
1: Move in, clean old apartment and square away poo poo in the upstairs area.
2: Tear up "new" floor in the basement
3: Add a doorway to "new" basement space
4: Start digging up the drainage system, reveal house foundation to get it to dry out, dig up and empty current sewage container and move it to the lawn so I can have a longer line to it and have the lawn act as a "drainage field" (don't know if this is the correct term, basically the pipes will allow lighter stuff to seep into the soil and heavier stuff goes into the sewage container)
5: put new drainage in BELOW THE loving FOUNDATION OF THE HOUSE LIKE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE
6: start renovating the downstairs area. Start with the entry/hallway and then move to stairs->kitchen->bedroom->livingroom. Replace woodstove in kitchen with a heavier one that retains heat better.
7: Proper kitchen, but this is going to require so much money it won't happen for probably at least 2 years.
8: Bathroom renovation, also going to cost a lot of money so not happening for a while.

I've had a few people over to check out the house to see that the foundation etc is in order and that there's no mold (the wooden stairs in the basement need to be replaced though). Have also been using an ozone generator to get rid of the worst smell downstairs, but some still exists and cling to clothes and textiles down there.
The plan is to get my dads digger in working order, dig, dry out the foundation then put up some isolation so the temperature in the basement is a bit more consistent (saving me money by not needing to heat quite as much)
If my dads digger doesn't work and I can't dig myself I'm told to expect 5-10 000€ more in labor costs :/

But for now, I gotta move in, get the upstairs area in better shape so I can live here. Next week my vacation starts so I will start doing stuff and posting progress reports.

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Gasmask
Apr 27, 2003

And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee

Ground floor of this one. Looks like you have your work cut out but it will be amazing once it's all done. Good luck!

corgski
Feb 6, 2007




Aw yiss another motherfuckin house project. I can’t wait to see what you do!

organburner
Apr 10, 2011

This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.


Sorry for the lack of updates, moving has been harder on me than I thought and I only find myself able to do physical labor for like one hour per day. But vacation starts today, so I can take it easier (once I clean out the old apartment properly at least)

Meanwhile, I walked up to the forest you can see in one of the pictures below, it's a pretty straight dirt road (one slight curve) and about 500 meters until you hit the forest. Though I spent time here in my childhood, they have chopped enough trees that I can't really recall where the good spots are.
But you can still find berries real easy

Blueberries and lingonberries. Too bad I don't really like lingonberries in their raw form but I'll go whole hog on some blueberries. Also found a single raspberry.

There were also wild strawberry plants but they are pretty temperamental about actually producing berries

This anthill is also pretty close to my house, right at the end of the driveway, so I will need to deal with this somehow. Don't know how yet, a small controlled fire would be fun and disastrous.



Hopefully I will get more updates during next week. I did find my cousins old "these are my friends!" book and one dudes page had been all scribbled over and in big letters the words "$name IS GAY" were written very aggressively. Now I want to know the story of this...

Zoesdare
Sep 24, 2005

Still floofin

organburner posted:


4: Start digging up the drainage system, reveal house foundation to get it to dry out, dig up and empty current sewage container and move it to the lawn so I can have a longer line to it and have the lawn act as a "drainage field" (don't know if this is the correct term, basically the pipes will allow lighter stuff to seep into the soil and heavier stuff goes into the sewage container)


In the US we call this a leach field. They’re a pain in the rear end.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.




Ham Wrangler

Liked and subscribed. I somehow visualized this house to be in much worse condition based on what you'd told me about it before. The little red barn is just delightful.

Zipline
May 9, 2013


Very curious to see what's in the future home gym, as well as why the stairs are so weak. Also, why is the upper floor in such better shape than the ground floor?

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.


Very interesting thread. Greetings from the Vaasa region.

EDIT:
Took a closer look and that old timey stove next to the electric, is it a wood fired one? Never seen them looking like that. It would be cool if you kept a woodburning stove, or if not, I think they fetch money. Seems to me if you are on a budget, a lot of that crap people might pay for.

Does the house have any pönttöuunis? They are great and can be taken down and rebuilt without much trouble.

The outhouse looks great for turning into a shop IMO, I'd love to has big an outhouse like that. All that crap in there might have buyers if you are up to dealing with that.

Are you going for a "conservation" type of renovation to keep as much of the old as possible, or is this tear everything out and replace with new modern technology kind of repair?

His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Aug 25, 2020

organburner
Apr 10, 2011

This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.


Apologies for the lack of updates in this thread, it's been weird times. Basically the house came with a washing machine that broke in a way that kept me up until 5 am and since then my lack of sleep has hosed me over.

Sirotan posted:

Liked and subscribed. I somehow visualized this house to be in much worse condition based on what you'd told me about it before. The little red barn is just delightful.

I still need to take some detail shots of the parts that are mad hosed up. The electrics are what one said was "not great condition" and another guy said "might be dangerous" so I need to get an electrician in ASAP to check that out.
The red barn is awesome, unfortunately it is full of stuff and the stairs that go up to the second floor there will not carry my weight until I rebuild them.

Zipline posted:

Very curious to see what's in the future home gym, as well as why the stairs are so weak. Also, why is the upper floor in such better shape than the ground floor?

The upper floor is a later addition which is why it's in better shape. It's also a project that is unfinished, which is why the only light switch for the stair lights are... upstairs. The stairs are also super slippery when wearing socks.

His Divine Shadow posted:

Very interesting thread. Greetings from the Vaasa region.

EDIT:
Took a closer look and that old timey stove next to the electric, is it a wood fired one? Never seen them looking like that. It would be cool if you kept a woodburning stove, or if not, I think they fetch money. Seems to me if you are on a budget, a lot of that crap people might pay for.

Does the house have any pönttöuunis? They are great and can be taken down and rebuilt without much trouble.

The outhouse looks great for turning into a shop IMO, I'd love to has big an outhouse like that. All that crap in there might have buyers if you are up to dealing with that.

Are you going for a "conservation" type of renovation to keep as much of the old as possible, or is this tear everything out and replace with new modern technology kind of repair?

Yes the stove next to the narrow lovely electric one (can't use burners and ovens at the same time lol) is a wood fired one. I am hoping to replace it with something that retains heat better as it is a "cooking" stove not a "heat up house" stove. I am hoping to get a combination wood fired stove/oven/heat reserving fireplace but I need to see if that's in the budget. There is a pönttöuuni that has been converted to electric in the living room, winter will show how well it works if at all.
I will probably modernize the house as it is already sort of a hodge-podge of different styles, but I will keep as much stuff as I can for money reasons. I have to tear up the inner walls though, otherwise the smell will linger forever if I don't replace the isolation material.
The issue is that everything downstairs except for the bathroom has been infused with a mix of tobacco smoke and "something that was sprayed into the walls in the 80's to isolate the house better" (loving no one knows what this is and I don't know how to describe the smell) So anything wooden needs to be repainted, anything textile probably just thrown away. I don't think the smell would stick to metal though. The house has been through several rounds of ozone generator use so the smell is not quite as pervasive as it was but it will stick to clothes and the like.

I need to take more pics once I have time but by the time I get back here from cleaning my old apartment I'm usually just too wiped.


What my car has looked like for the last few trips. I was supposed to borrow a van but that kinda fell through and by the time I found out it fell through I had already moved most of my stuff anyway.


Why it has taken so long to move and clean the apartment. Top is inside, bottom outside. The apartment just will not cool down in the summer and it's been pretty humid so I've only lasted for a few hours every day. It is nearly finished now though.
I have one of those fun bodies that can be over and under hydrated in the summer as well if I don't remember to drink some sports drinks.

I did get some stuff done around the house though:

Tore up the stairs leading to the living space in the shed (I will need to take pics of this, basically it's an isolated apartment that has electric heating, someone used to live there. Don't think there's any water there though).


All the tools you need it sometimes feels like. Nearly took that sledgehammer to the old washing machine when it hosed with me, but instead I demolished the stairs while angry and sleep deprived.


The wall is not looking... good. There also appears to be a rat entrance right over that pile of sawdust. This will most likely be a project for next year though.


Also got tired of having these bare light bulbs right behind my monitors so I switched out this lamp


New one is pretty bright through the power of LED's

I need to take some more pics of the outhouse, or rather the interior of it.

organburner
Apr 10, 2011

This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.


Got another short update, it doesn't look like my dad is gonna be able to fix his digger in time so I'm probably just gonna have the same dudes who were gonna help with installing the new drainage stuff do the digging. I don't think I will be getting very far with a shovel and my vacation is almost over so even if I were to rent a digger I would only be able to get any real work done on the weekends.

Got some stuff done though.

All the ladies complain about the size of my plums


Decided to yeet the old cabinet from the bathroom as it was filthy:


New one is cheap. Light is also new. These are just temporary until I can afford to renovate the bathroom, but the bathroom is alright as it is.



Also started tearing up the old deck:




Some of the wood gave way under the 4kg sledge but some was surprisingly persistent and had to be pried off with a crowbar. I don't know why the rusted metal drum is there. Some of the planks leaked water as I applied pressure to them, a good sign.

Got this far:


The noticed this

Which I don't know if it's a problem or not, gonna have someone take a look. Didn't notice it under previous inspection because it was nicely hidden by one of the supports for the deck.
The rest of the deck/stairs to the door there are held up by a metal frame, so it will be a bit harder to tear it up, but it will be torn up.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Life at last
Salutations from the other side


Plaster Town Cop

Sup washing-machine-hosed-you-over buddy

Making progress! At least it should start to cool soon at night if you can get some circulating fans .

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His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.


Cracks happen in foundations, it doesn't look too bad to me considering the age.

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