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.Z.
Jan 12, 2008







I've been enjoying their latest pre-debut song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zJj7rvRdkY

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Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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the branding and design for this has all been great

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBUhj2gkCqo

Inject that ChoA content directly into my veins.

Also ^^ agreed

Everyday Goast
Nov 27, 2011

spoopy



Bottom Liner posted:



the branding and design for this has all been great

WOW I'm so into this!

Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


I'm more excited for this cover than I was for the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OCrLKPweys

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Same. Curious who they’re fighting over and who will make a cameo at the end. And they’re drinking chocolate and strawberry milk instead of cocktails.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






lmfao excellent

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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I’m loving this Idle dance cover of Crazy. Soyeon and Soojin go so hard and Miyeon twerking will always be hilarious. I remember seeing them do this song back in their busking days so this is cool to see again.

https://youtu.be/JJk7Pd4XSzs

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Yeah I came across a quick video comparing the old busking video to the new relay one the other day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtijzTeXXxY

Soyeon's dancing seems it level'd up like crazy lol.

Foam Monkey
Jun 4, 2007
Lurkzilla

Grimey Drawer

You know I try to keep my hoarding to a minimum by only buying stuff that is actually from groups I listen to. Which is why I have my Loona scepter and Ateez light stick.

But drat if I don’t want that Dreamcatcher power staff.

So I guess I have a new group to listen to. Any suggestions? Because I get slammed on YouTube.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

MAMAMOO STAN





Odd Eye is their newest release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QD0FeZyDtQ

Piri has a nice whistle effect though honestly that whole album (The End of Nightmare) is very nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq_mbTSR-a0

Scream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKlGHHhTOsQ

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Here's some other stuff including some of their less rock stuff.

Deja Vu - power ballad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W761DtH1oRg

Black or White - Michael Jackson r&b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6iOxdsAbw

Boca - single before Odd Eye, rock + latin beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ4JGye4dQU

Red Sun - darker R&B sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBJVdjOHUY


Black or White and Red Sun are two of my favorite songs from them.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pN1Ob-qxP0

it begins

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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another dope pic to go with it

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Key's terrible extensions continue to trouble me. But they also lowkey slowly grew on me during the Ringtone stream??

A land of contrasts.

e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk9KPKFDaEI

this M/V looks like it'll be lush af

esperterra fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Feb 8, 2021

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

esperterra posted:

e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk9KPKFDaEI

this M/V looks like it'll be lush af

I'm ready.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






ayyyyyy



e: also, happy 14th anniversary to these mofuckin queens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WukIG7tmKdI

esperterra fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Feb 9, 2021

Everyday Goast
Nov 27, 2011

spoopy



I'm disappointed the Switch to Me TWICE version didn't lean harder into the original video

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


Everyday Goast posted:

I'm disappointed the Switch to Me TWICE version didn't lean harder into the original video

Yeah, I was feeling the same. I did appreciate that the video had a little bit of CGI but wasn't completely filled with it though

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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I think I’ve figured out Aespa. They’re a reverse Hatsune Miku. The virtual members do the singing and the live members perform on stage, cause they never get to actually sing


https://youtu.be/Y6sfNV51ae0


They’ve used full lip sync or pre-recorded live vocals like this every time they did Black Mamba live, and now they’ve put out multiple “performance stage” videos with prerecorded tracks. They even have the luxury of doing multiple takes because of Covid anyways, so it’s not like they can’t still protect their perfect image if there is a mistake. Just let them sing SM, drat.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Feb 10, 2021

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.

Hyped about Sunmi comeback

And yeah, it's strange that aespa don't get to sing live even when it's a ballad and filmed in a studio. I got the impression that they have good voices, especially Ningning and Winter.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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Yeah they clearly have great voices going by the prerecorded live audio, and this song doesn’t have any demanding choreo that would interfere with the singing either. So weird, even more so coming from SM who have such a reputation for great vocalists.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.


turns out they were all Damon Albarn

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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I Burn had 159k sales on Gaon for January which makes it their best selling and the 3rd best Cube album sales of all time (and will certainly get 8k more for #1).

Dreamcatcher had 91k sales in the 6 days they had in Jan which is a huge number for them.

Hell yeah!

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Feb 11, 2021

Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


It's never really bothered me if a group is singing live or not but with Weeekly I really like that there's so much footage of them singing live that there's no real question of them being capable singers, except maybe Zoa but she's still a child so that's fine. It just seems like it's better to have them singing live from the beginning to build confidence and get used to loving up occasionally or else you can have a twice situation with half of them still not having high confidence with live singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOO7tWr0DNU

also random video from a fan I found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqktb602D24#t=40s

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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I think JYP have learned that lesson given how insanely capable Itzy are all around. Still can't get over this practice video where you hear their voices so clearly over the studio sound system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYi7hHWG7zw

That's how you build singing confidence and strength given the aerobic conditioning it requires and all. Despite the arms race in harder and harder choreo they're killing it (along with a lot of 4th gen groups).

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.


Apparently the stylist for the Dubu/Chae cover of Switch To Me ripped off the hanbok Dahyun was wearing from the How You Like That m/v so they had to reupload it with that scene removed entirely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UMgw3V-Q5I

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



yeah not really surprised about groups lip syncing, its pretty common

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Lip syncing is a trend that comes and goes in kpop, and I was hoping to see it go away again as we move into the 4th gen, but with so many groups being dance focused these days I have a feeling it'll be sticking around a while longer.

That said it's def weird SM hasn't had aespa do any live singing yet. Usually for music shows they just do the first week lip syncing, then sing live the week after, but Black Mamba was lip synced for the whole promo period from what I've seen. It's weird they wouldn't have the girls do any live performances for Forever, but SM's in house The Stage/The Performance stuff has all been mostly lip synced anyway so I was kind of expecting it. It's a shame tho b/c those girls have amazing voices. Hoping we get some live singing out of them whenever they promote another song.

They've done some live singing on diff radio shows if you really do want to hear them tho.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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The worst I’ve seen was the Everglow US tour where the mics were either really low or just off entirely with the full studio track playing. To the girls credit, they still sang on stage.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Bottom Liner posted:

The worst I’ve seen was the Everglow US tour where the mics were either really low or just off entirely with the full studio track playing. To the girls credit, they still sang on stage.

This is pretty much the only time lip syncing bothers me. I'd prefer if music shows were all live, or if more groups sang live at least-- even with a backing track, I don't care as long as I can hear their voices. From a production standpoint tho, everyone just lip syncing these days probably makes poo poo way easier. But when concerts are done mostly lip synced it's kind of like ... rly fam? People paid for this poo poo lmao. Doing a few tracks lip synced because either the choreo is too intense, or to save their voices for a later song, no big deal. But a whole rear end concert being lip synced, or the voices being drowned out entirely by the backing track, is just a drat shame.

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.

Me and an army friend went to see BTS at the second date of their Wembley shows in 2019. It was a cool experience even though we had really, really bad seats. But there was a fair bit of lipsyncing in some songs which bothered me a bit? I think one of the solo performances was completely lipsynced, or the mic was just turned so low that you couldn't hear the live vocals :/

To be fair, it was mostly in songs that had a fast choreo and it was a 2 hour show, so I can see why you can't go all out on both singing and dancing.

Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


Chuu from Loona got picked to be in the Star Survival 2021 project on How Do You Play? and that's going to do way more for helping Loona's domestic popularity than anything else ever could lmao

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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Scylo posted:

Chuu from Loona got picked to be in the Star Survival 2021 project on How Do You Play? and that's going to do way more for helping Loona's domestic popularity than anything else ever could lmao

Hell yes. I fell in love with her in Running Girls, so I am hella looking forward to her stint on How Do You Play?!

Also



whew lad only two tracks. I really want to know what's up with the full album she's been working on since 2019, if it's just a matter of Sunmi wanting it to be perfect, or if the company isn't ready to release it for whatever reason. Maybe waiting for Covid to end so she can tour again?? idk

At least it's not just one track tho! And all of her work with Frants is amazing.

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.

esperterra posted:

And all of her work with Frants is amazing.

Hello yes, an opportunity to post my favorite Sunmi performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1476zRZQY74

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Frants owns so hard, def one of my favourite producers in the business.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtFXRasYU40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g65SdyJSYqk

e: this whole album is

esperterra fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Feb 15, 2021

Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


This is a lot of effort to go to for a pepsi ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGVpBTw3PYo

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Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008



i thought you were making a joke about ppl but it's a full-on pepsi ad

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