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Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


Hyunjin from Stray Kids is on hiatus because of the bullying stuff. https://www.soompi.com/article/1456712wpp/jyp-entertainment-releases-statement-about-stray-kids-hyunjins-future-activities

Fan twitter seems to have predictably turned into a death threat filled shithole as a result of this.

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The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmrEXhLq244

pretty good cover!

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Yeah, it was definitely one of the better ITNW covers I've seen recently!

Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


IU talking to Shinee is a good watch, they debuted in the same year. The covers are good too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LnCaecCDd0

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



Miyeon killed that poo poo. Also shoutout to the G idle members and Yena

Dancing Peasant
Jul 19, 2003

All this for stealing a piece of bread?


Welp

https://twitter.com/lemonphobic/status/1366048808220639234?s=20

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.


Sucks rear end!!

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.




I assume it's a move to hurt Spotify's launch in Korea? It was done by Kakao and helps keep Genie Melon the #1 platform.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Feb 28, 2021

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81




Yeah, the distributor for all those also runs Melon, a huge streaming service in SK. Apparently the artists and labels themselves weren't made aware, seems to have taken a lot of people by surprise. This is going to really suck for artists who are huge globally, and also artists who've just had comebacks or will soon. I'm mostly thinking of CL, please drop anyway CL, I'll pay some dumb import price or something.

My spotify playlist has been pretty well gutted. I hope it's a short term thing, I've got really used to my £10/month music budget and this is going to cause problems.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Sucks if they also pulled rights in other countries when they could just block them in Korea, I imagine? But maybe Kakao is just pulling a power move.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.




Yeah and itís extra lovely because it hurts the artists the most and annoys international fans. A few artists have started speaking up so hopefully at least the international rights get restored.

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81




I've been reading they were already blocked in Korea and this is just a power move or something?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.




Spotify just launched in Korea this month. A lot of artists werenít on there yet, but this lapse in licensing removed a lot more and made it international. Spotify released a statement saying they hope to restore it ASAP but I expect that will cost a lot given Kakaoís move.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Spotify is going to have a hard enough time competing with Melon and Genie as is, Kakao pulling this will make it even harder lol. Hopefully international rights get sorted soon for people who use it for their kpop.

Though Spotify's selection has always been weird anyway, I personally don't use it. Like random songs off albums not being available b/c the minis they originally released on are not. TIL Sunmi's Warning EP just deadass does not have Gashina or Heroine, and the singles aren't available either lmao.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



Bottom Liner posted:

Yeah and itís extra lovely because it hurts the artists the most and annoys international fans. A few artists have started speaking up so hopefully at least the international rights get restored.

Lets be completely honest here. The only people this actually hurts are Spotify execs.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.




I'd say it tangibly hurts groups that have a large international fanbase like Dreamcatcher and Loona. They had 1.4 and 1.5 million monthly spotify listeners which gives them big discoverability on the platform, and that leads directly to bigger fanbase growth and sales. It would be like a company pulling a groups Youtube channel, it's a huge platform and even if the direct payments from streaming revenue is negligible, the larger effects are important. The kicker here is that the biggest groups like BTS and Blackpink are still on the platform which will only funnel more attention to them in the absence of the rest.

This also made me realize how good music streaming has been up to this point compared to TV/movies. Most of the large platforms had most of the content you'd want but going forward I'm sure the various platforms and content will get fragmented just like Netflix/Hulu/every other service did with video.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Mar 1, 2021

Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


I imagine they would have to figure out some sort of agreement because not being on the biggest music streaming platform in the world is probably a good reason for agencies to start looking at distributors that aren't KakaoM. IU and the PlayM groups like Weeekly and Apink can't get away from KakaoM but I think most other groups probably could? I guess it depends how much KakaoM care about that distribution business

Anyway this is a good opportunity for me to switch to Apple Music I guess and hopefully it doesn't all disappear from there next week

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.




Youtube music is pretty great despite the app itself being meh. Biggest library by far and I can't imagine anything being taken off of Youtube. It also gets you youtube premium and you can upload your own stuff if that matters to you.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






It is trash garbage so far, but I was on GPM before and don't feel like changing to a new service/remaking all of my playlists, so I'm on YTM rn

Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


https://twitter.com/Jeff__Benjamin/status/1366273496494583817?s=20

Seems like some stuff will slowly come back so I guess I'll just give it two weeks and see where it's at. I could see some stuff staying missing though, probably not much reason to go back and find a new distributor for older groups like Kara.

New Ateez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtcVwuauVV0

Scylo fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Mar 1, 2021

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.

Bottom Liner posted:

This also made me realize how good music streaming has been up to this point compared to TV/movies. Most of the large platforms had most of the content you'd want but going forward I'm sure the various platforms and content will get fragmented just like Netflix/Hulu/every other service did with video.

Same, this made me realize Iíve been able to use Spotify as my main source for music for the past 12 years

Compare that to tv/movie streaming, where I have three active subscriptions on different platforms just to be able to see the movies/shows I want.

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008




As usual, I love this whole album, especially this and Take Me Home, which ends with a fricking 80s sax solo, proving they make their music exclusively for my taste.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






The Rainaissance continues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZ5f-8NLHo

e: also have sum Yenny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJfdpuukEdw

esperterra fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Mar 1, 2021

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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https://twitter.com/kconusa/status/1366614243085217796?s=21




Hell of a lineup

Vastakaiun
Apr 16, 2008



Jesus that's a stacked lineup.

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Say 'Thank you, Ershin'.

Say it.




One silver lining to not having acts travel is being able to have more of them to perform and hopefully have longer setlists.

The lineup feels like those huge Japan K-CONs with multiple dates/venues.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

MAMAMOO STAN





New Yukika -Lovemonth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGe55Ff066g

screaden
Apr 8, 2009


"Modern" kpop is a bit of blind spot for me, would any of the big playlists on spotify be fine start to check stuff out or is there something you folks would recommend that's a bit more curated?

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

MAMAMOO STAN





I think that because of the ongoing dispute between KakaoM and Spotify, listening to any spotify playlist for current kpop may be difficult. Consider Tidal, Apple Music or Youtube Music instead at this time.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


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screaden posted:

"Modern" kpop is a bit of blind spot for me, would any of the big playlists on spotify be fine start to check stuff out or is there something you folks would recommend that's a bit more curated?

Here's two pretty solid playlists from Youtube's explore tab (you can listen without youtube music account).


Girl groups
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCLAK5uy_nOZ81qchwF9waUsGfE_kDKsk3eXzHfFz8


Boy groups
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCLAK5uy_lxz1SeC-dOdPiaFdndgqIrhnAfwv1DohM

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srWfDwiRVgQ

The Rainaissance intensifies

Scylo
Aug 5, 2009


I really have no idea who April are but the way DSP Media are handling the April, Hyun-joo situation makes FNC entertainment look like the greatest company in the world for the way they handled AOA

https://www.soompi.com/article/1457247wpp/dsp-media-announces-legal-action-against-former-april-member-hyunjoo-and-her-family

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007






This is amazing and fantastic.

I havenít listened to rain since Speed Racer came out lol

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Rain's whole mini is quite lovely, tho Switch To Me and Why Don't We are probably the best tracks. The one with Jackson Wang, Magnetic, is rly slick, too.

e: M Countdown just reminded me that Cheetah very recently dropped a track with Jamie, and I vibe hard with it. Tho Cheetah with extensions will never not throw me off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d__iIt-00Gk

esperterra fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Mar 4, 2021

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