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Given they managed to raise 2 million with an online event, I can't see a good reason for them to risk an in-person event in 2021. ElegantFugue posted:It's also going to be in Florida, though, right? So the fact that there's no way the Governor of the state will declare any kind of emergency means they're going to have to work something out with the hotel they'd originally reserved?
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Sgdq is normally in Minnesota and the whole reason the online one was last week instead of the original/normal dates in June was because the initial move in response to this was just to delay it which many people assumed was about hotel cancellation fees. Obviously I'm not on gdq staff so that's nothing more than conjecture.
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The hotel contracts are usually for 2-3 years and very hard to cancel. SGDQ cancellation happening was so late was probably due to that. Hotel contracts loving suck, its basically you guarantee to sell X rooms or there's an enormous penalty.
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The 7th Guest posted:and then AGDQ is often in florida and that's like. a new record broken every day By January 2020, a majority of Americans (and certainly a conservative state government like Florida) will be done with Covid. Not that the virus is gone or herd immunity or there's a miracle cure, but Just Done With Covid in the "to hell with this, I'm living my life" sense.
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MagusofStars posted:By January 2020, a majority of Americans (and certainly a conservative state government like Florida) will be done with Covid. Not that the virus is gone or herd immunity or there's a miracle cure, but Just Done With Covid in the "to hell with this, I'm living my life" sense. Speaking as a resident, Florida has been Done With Covid for like 2 months at this point. I've been reduced to huddling in my apartment (I literally leave once every two weeks for groceries and laundry) and hoping that no one I care for dies as a result.
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yeah we're unfortunately already at that point but i imagine by agdq21 most of those people will either have gotten the virus or personally know someone that did and as such we might finally be back into a social push back into actually doing sensible restrictions. they might even decide to do another stimulus check at some point!! but, to be clear, this is all stuff that is in no way up to the gdq staff just like how holding sgdq20 online was never in doubt. gdq isn't going to start running events in person before it's safe to do so and have in zero way suggested that they would, so having this conversation doesn't really matter (and neither really does the conversation's start of the benefits/drawbacks of an online event vs an in person event). this is what we're going to get as long as the world is like this
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Boogalo posted:The hotel contracts are usually for 2-3 years and very hard to cancel. SGDQ cancellation happening was so late was probably due to that. Hotel contracts loving suck, its basically you guarantee to sell X rooms or there's an enormous penalty. The hotel for SGDQ was also known for being exceptionally hostile to events longer than a day. The building and location are great, it's just the hotel management decided to be sacks of crap to everyone that wasn't a wedding party. SGDQ got a multi year contract in place before that policy kicked in. Ownership of the building just changed so management may change too.
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I don't like flying to america nor the logistics of travel once in america so personally I could go for GDQ being online for the rest of my lifespan and I'll probably get my wish for AGDQ2021 at least, but I see why people miss the live audience stuff.
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i feel like gdq could spin up more online marathons through the year and that might satisfy both camps. being able to just stream from your house means so many runners get to participate. and this recent sgdq was great! a lot of good as hell runs and commentators who were entertaining.
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:I don't like flying to america nor the logistics of travel once in america so personally I could go for GDQ being online for the rest of my lifespan and I'll probably get my wish for AGDQ2021 at least, but I see why people miss the live audience stuff. Transatlantic sucks. Also I wish we had Ryanair, I'd do so much more traveling. Not that 90% of this country is worth seeing. Anyways, in all likelihood the hotel won't have the resources to sue GDQ for breaking the contract if it comes to that.
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Who needs to sue? It’s all but guaranteed that the contract has a binding arbitration clause in it.
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Is there a list somewhere that includes who the "couch"/co-commentators were?
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TheMadMilkman posted:Who needs to sue? It’s all but guaranteed that the contract has a binding arbitration clause in it. Ironically, those are less common in b2b contracts.
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:I don't like flying to america nor the logistics of travel once in america so personally I could go for GDQ being online for the rest of my lifespan and I'll probably get my wish for AGDQ2021 at least, but I see why people miss the live audience stuff. hypothetically, in a world where SGDQ 2021 is back where it has been, but they have slots available for out-of-the-country runners, would you do that or travel to the US? I really think having some online runners who get displayed on some screens at the physical event should be a part going forward, both for people who live somewhere else or can't easily get to Minnesota (it's in the absolute middle of the continent, I totally understand why someone from Europe or Asia would not want to travel there), but also so you can have VR/arcade stuff without having to lug everything halfway across the country or have a monumental setup.
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Some Goon posted:Transatlantic sucks. Also I wish we had Ryanair, I'd do so much more traveling. Not that 90% of this country is worth seeing. 
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I've been. "Flyover state" is a well-earned title. Maybe more like 60-70% if we're being honest.
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Some Goon posted:I've been. "Flyover state" is a well-earned title. Maybe more like 60-70% if we're being honest. if going outside doesn't interest you at all then i guess sure
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DC Murderverse posted:hypothetically, in a world where SGDQ 2021 is back where it has been, but they have slots available for out-of-the-country runners, would you do that or travel to the US? transatlantic flight/ the hotel fees are bonkers, I would do the call in thing every time if given the opportunity. It's the same reason I skip attending GDQs where I don't have a run in the event, I can't justify immolating a sizable portion of my savings if I'm not going with a purpose. also the last time I went to the USA, the customs agent accused me of entering the country specifically to have gay sex because I apparently radiate gay energy or something. This has rather soured me on wanting to deal with the bullshit of entry on top of just being offensive, speedrunners are so not my type.
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:also the last time I went to the USA, the customs agent accused me of entering the country specifically to have gay sex because I apparently radiate gay energy or something That's hosed but also, is that actually grounds to deny someone entry or was the customs person just being an rear end in a top hat?
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is it illegal to enter the country to have gay sex here? I assumed that wouldn't be the case but I guess I'm beyond the point of surprise when I learn something terrible and stupid about our country.
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My partner once got stopped by Australian immigration and held for hours because she has tattoos and was obviously an escort, or something. Tbf Australia knowingly have the worst attitude to any human who dares enter the country and they're proud of it - even worse than the US. Though I went transatlantic to New York last year and we had no problems (because straight presenting white couple, one uk one irish passport) apart from the queue. But the nervousness of approaching customs in the first place honestly puts me off going to the US unless I can get a really cheap flight/hotel deal. Anyway I thought this GDQ was good
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LibrarianCroaker posted:Is there a list somewhere that includes who the "couch"/co-commentators were? Don't think there's a list, but each video on YouTube should have commentators names in the description.
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Extremely slowly watching the vods. Some good stuff this go around Dusk with the devs flipping out Arkham city has some interesting ships and good commentary Portal through superliminal was a solid fps puzzle block alien isolation (runner was extremely caffeinated and hope so that was a lot of fun) Castlevania block freedom planet was fun commentary the sonic block (although I feel bad for the sonic 1 runner who had to restart because of technical stuff and her second run wasn't as solid as her first attempt) Re3r was actually more fun than I had expected, I think needing to actually use guns instead of high fps knifing for the bosses made it more interesting Watching the dmc4 run right now and the commentary is very good, plus the runner has their mic off but if you watch his screen there's some good reactions so it's pretty funny.
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Oyster posted:You're a good guy, Punchy. Thanks for being human. Thank you! Yeah, it was something Iggyzig and I came up with. We've been trying to work little gimmicks in to our hosting shifts to liven things up. I loved how the haiku stuff took off! It was a lot of fun.
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Since we're sharing: I caught up on a few vods last night and they were all solid. Doom64 commentary made the run a solid watch. felt like Zelloo was really well prepared but also had two great off the cuff commentators (punchy and peaches) on the couch which is a great combo. Legacy of the Wizard was also a killer run. The game mechanic that is manipulated to reach absurd speeds was entertaining. you really never see a NES platformer move at those speeds and the level of control the runner had with that speed was amazing. Very nice commentary by the ALF runner Starbird Zelda 2 Reverse Boss Order had a lot of hilarious jank and good gameplay. Didn't even notice the category going into it but it glitches off the rails quickly. Enjoyed that there was a person on the couch reacting to nice dodges and other little moments. Lots of wholesome donation comments for the runner were great
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DC Murderverse posted:I really think having some online runners who get displayed on some screens at the physical event should be a part going forward, both for people who live somewhere else or can't easily get to Minnesota (it's in the absolute middle of the continent, I totally understand why someone from Europe or Asia would not want to travel there), MSP has direct flight connections to Japan, Korea, and many places in Europe. And it's a 2 hour flight from here to any of the coastal hubs.
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why are the GDQ's always in America? there's ESA, why not make that a larger event for folks that don't want to travel to America?
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nerve posted:why are the GDQ's always in America? there's ESA, why not make that a larger event for folks that don't want to travel to America? because the organizers all(?) live in America e: like, I don't think there's a governing body or anything on organizing a big live speedrunning event so if one isn't happening in Europe then maybe that's on the organizers of the events focused on that region IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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The acronym for North American Speedrunners Assembly was taken so they just called it GDQ.
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nerve posted:why are the GDQ's always in America? there's ESA, i think you answered your own question also this IcePhoenix posted:because the organizers all(?) live in America
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thanks friendsIcePhoenix posted:
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I wish Europe had an event that wasn’t fraught with idiots bowing to chuds.
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Healbot posted:I wish Europe had an event that wasn’t fraught with idiots bowing to chuds. Let's be real, this could apply to literally any kind of event hosted anywhere in the world right now.
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Okay can someone explain the oot rando run to me. It's co-op but they don't share items, they just tell each other where they found them? How do you "win" in this category, just whoever finishes first is considered the time for both?
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site posted:Okay can someone explain the oot rando run to me. It's co-op but they don't share items, they just tell each other where they found them? How do you "win" in this category, just whoever finishes first is considered the time for both? No, the idea is both need to finish the game. Think of it as a normal randomizer run but two people are running it in tandem and sharing info. Its a popular race category and plays out differently than normal randos since there's strategy in having them check different things etc.
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I imagine when it gets run as a race you just have pairs of people competing together against other pairs. Honestly even if it was kind of an opaque run to anyone who was unfamiliar with the concept/tropes of randomizer races (or the bingo races before then) I appreciated it being on the schedule b/c running it cooperatively was a new concept for me and playing with someone more knowledgeable might be the sort of thing that'd make me finally attempt it myself
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I think at AGDQ they did a co-op rando run of a hack that mashed super metroid and link to the past together, right? I think the biggest reason for co-op is that a rando for these games is HUGE and it would take way longer to solo it
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site posted:Okay can someone explain the oot rando run to me. It's co-op but they don't share items, they just tell each other where they found them? How do you "win" in this category, just whoever finishes first is considered the time for both? The overall time is usually based on either an average of the two runners' times OR the time of whoever finishes second. So ideally, both runners finish very close together; if you have someone finish like 30+ minutes ahead of the other, you probably didn't route very well. It's a super fun mode. If you're into playing randomizers at all (whether OOTR, Link to the Past, or literally any of the others), I would absolutely recommend giving co-op a shot sometime even casually because it is chill and fun to play. For a marathon in particular, using co-op really helps the scheduling because it sets a pretty firm hard cap on how long the seed can take - since you're going to personally skip like half the checks (because your teammate is doing it), top-tier runners aren't going to end up like an hour over estimate even if the item layout is pure poo poo.
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