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Into The Mild
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


Open Source Idiom posted:

Why were those tentacles furry!?!?

So itís ok if tentacles are smooth or have suckers? But you draw the line at furry tentacles.

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Power Walrus
Dec 23, 2003



Fun Shoe

InfiniteZero posted:

The very first episode featured this:



... so I'm not sure if there was ever a question about embracing camp. I guess they could have had a picture in picture in the corner of John Waters giggling but hopefully the message still got out there.

Yeah yeah, I can't really explain it so it's probably just my own experience with it, the show just feels like its embarrassed by its own horror elements.

I don't know why they had that huge fantasy sequence as a hook into the show. It would make more sense to me if we spent more time in Tic's inner experience. This episode was more satisfying in that way, I like seeing that his flaws and trauma are really upsetting to him and the audience. I think it's good that it's not easy to like him.

Just a feeling, feels like the show can't decide if it's a fun romp or a serious drama or a scary monster show. You can mix genres successfully, I just don't feel it on this one.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!





GoGoGadgetChris posted:

It doesn't matter if it's reflective of the world back then, because it's media produced in and for 2020. If your protagonist is a homophobe and does not face immediate repercussion for their homophobia, then you've produced homophobic media.

Yes, Good characters should be 100% good and Bad characters should be 100% bad.

Oh wait, no, that's dumb.

wolfs
Jul 17, 2001

posted by squid gang



Open Source Idiom posted:

Why were those tentacles furry!?!?

Sheís a fox spirit op

anothergod
Apr 11, 2016



Power Walrus posted:

This show kinda feels like it’s made by people who feel uncomfortable in horror. I don’t expect it to be scary, but I do expect it to try and holy moley the bad cg tentacles and her seeing this guys life of family and climbing mountains before he pops like a water balloon

The way the show handles ghouls and ghosts would not be out of place in something like American Horror Story, a show that embraces camp. People exploding like wet bags, giant Halloween ghost heads yelling at people. I’m glad that the show is going big on the supernatural! It just feels like they have no confidence in it so they decided to make the gore so outrageous that it distracts. Lovecraft Country tries really hard to be an HBO prestige drama, and the competing tones crash into each other like two boring trains. But I’ll keep watching it!

Are you saying bad CG (is the CG even bad?) and a montage of someone's life... indicate the show is not comfortable with horror? I don't understand this in any way.

And about the prestige drama bit --- are you saying that it's trying to be like Game of Thrones? The show that slow rolled its magic and weirdstuff until it barfed it up and sucked rear end?

I feel like I have completely different expectations for this show than anyone complaining about it. To me this poo poo is more like The Good Place than it is Westworld. poo poo is fun and funny even if it deals with hosed up poo poo. I tear up a lot about stuff but honestly that scene before they smashed? Yeah a little emotional about the confessions. Extra lol about the oops-not-the-whole-story reveal later.

Solvent
Jan 24, 2013

These Words Hold Not Truth
Evident For All To See
This Hand Wears No Ring


College Slice

I like this show, I donít mind the back and fourth about writing and character, I donít have much of a stake (outside of basic human empathy of course) in any arguments outside of the single mention of Prince Hall, but itís still enriching to hear peopleís perspectives who, in a way, live some of this real life horror in their community.

Thereís a ton of teaching moments in Lovecraft Country, if that brings it up to the status of ďHBO high dramaĒ then it has done its job.

This last episode was the easiest for someone whoís taken a Kirkland Sleep aid to follow lol. The three (or more?) simulated sex scenes with full frontal female nudity are total HBO True Blood, no more or less porny IMO. My wife refers to TB as vampire porn when taking about it with her family, are we a couple more seasons away from calling this monster porn? Maybe.

surprise sex as revenge is not cool to depict, it seemed like a really hamfisted move. I figured that was more of a semisexualized murder, because of the pretty likely death from sepsis later. Regardless, I donít see the point of that over some other kind of revenge that doesnít involve someoneís pegging fetish.

Iím starting to see lots of dark sides here with Ticís time in the military. Thereís a lot of the Nuremberg defense there defending Tic in his participation in torture. I wasnít expecting it, and didnít even recognize Tic at first when he was called up to shoot the lady. He was just another green army man holding a rifle. It was the reaction shot of his pained eyes after he did it where I realize it was our old friend Atticus. Good acting on his part, thatís a complex look to give in a closeup. The whole drama that followed was not too much for me to suspend disbelief either. It was all an easier pill to swallow than the Monty Murder Scene, but that might just my distance from one situation and my ability to relate to the other. I can still feel myself in Ticís boots, but being a person driven by self hatred to murder someone because theyíre a symbol of difference and fear of the unknown is just too far off. I really hope they tie that one up better.

The last line of the episode got me excited for more of this characterís story, and the fox lady whoís clearly the princess of Mars in the first episodeís opening scene is def gonna be a main character soon. Makes so much sense now.

The CGI with her tails holding men in the air was cartoony at best, it had the mismatched glow of bad CGI on my OLED tv, so... thatís a little campy, like the Tarantino levels of blood that water ballon out of her victims, but the glowing CGI pulls me out of the immersion way more than any goofy blood.


Iím still onboard and really curious about this new character. Best episode so far IMO.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010


Bad Dog

Beefeater1980 posted:

Yes, Good characters should be 100% good and Bad characters should be 100% bad.

Oh wait, no, that's dumb.

Your post is indeed dumb. Not sure of its relation to mine though?

(real dumb post lol)

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005


GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Your post is indeed dumb. Not sure of its relation to mine though?

(real dumb post lol)

No your posts are exceedingly dumb and most of the people in the thread have told you that already.

Anyway this last episode ruled and it made me kind of wish that the entire show was anthology vignette based instead of an over arching story. I kind of wanted to watch a story about the demon girl instead of how she related to Atticus. It'd also allow the show to jump around for different social injustice time periods than just the 50s.

Solvent
Jan 24, 2013

These Words Hold Not Truth
Evident For All To See
This Hand Wears No Ring


College Slice

Doltos posted:

I kind of wanted to watch a story about the demon girl instead of how she related to Atticus.

Had a real Porny Pinocchio vibe. Would watch.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010


Bad Dog

Doltos posted:

No your posts are exceedingly dumb and most of the people in the thread have told you that already.

Anyway this last episode ruled and it made me kind of wish that the entire show was anthology vignette based instead of an over arching story. I kind of wanted to watch a story about the demon girl instead of how she related to Atticus. It'd also allow the show to jump around for different social injustice time periods than just the 50s.

Pissing contests reflect poorly on all involved, friend. Just slam that Ignore button and move on

There's a difference between IASIP characters and those who "get away with" bigotry

To the second half of your post, this show IS an anthology vignette, given how faintly the overarching story is woven through the episodes.

anothergod
Apr 11, 2016



Imagine hate watching this show lol

Edit: wow

anothergod fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Sep 21, 2020

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010


Bad Dog

anothergod posted:

Imagine hate watching this show lol

I haven't gotten much of a hate-watcher vibe from the posters in here. Seems like mostly positive reception, some luke-warm to mildly critical posts, and a very small number of people who said they stopped watching & then also stopped posting?

Moltke
May 13, 2009


Grimey Drawer

I'm still enjoying the show a lot. The action/fantasy/lovecraftian horror bits are fun and intriguing, while the true horror is the racism playing out in what would otherwise feel almost like an Indiana Jones series. Even a literal demon ended up being a more relatable character than Sherriff Hunt.

Doltos posted:

No your posts are exceedingly dumb and most of the people in the thread have told you that already.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010


Bad Dog

anothergod posted:

Imagine hate watching this show lol

Edit: wow

At risk of sounding self absorbed, is that wow directed at me? This is one of my favorite shows on television, even if I find some of the characters weak and/or problematic.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005


Moltke posted:

I'm still enjoying the show a lot. The action/fantasy/lovecraftian horror bits are fun and intriguing, while the true horror is the racism playing out in what would otherwise feel almost like an Indiana Jones series. Even a literal demon ended up being a more relatable character than Sherriff Hunt.

Yeah I keep saying that's both the best and worst problem with the show. The lovecraft stuff legitimately isn't nearly as scary as the racist stuff. Just the checkpoint/communist scene in this episode alone was more frightening than anything since the Sundown Town in episode 1.

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Pissing contests reflect poorly on all involved, friend. Just slam that Ignore button and move on

There's a difference between IASIP characters and those who "get away with" bigotry

To the second half of your post, this show IS an anthology vignette, given how faintly the overarching story is woven through the episodes.

No one's doing a pissing contest they're all just pointing out that you're dumb.

Atticus isn't getting away with bigotry, he's a flawed character with a messed up upbringing. You can't separate that fact and it seems like a weird personality issue at this point.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010


Bad Dog

Doltos posted:

Yeah I keep saying that's both the best and worst problem with the show. The lovecraft stuff legitimately isn't nearly as scary as the racist stuff. Just the checkpoint/communist scene in this episode alone was more frightening than anything since the Sundown Town in episode 1.


No one's doing a pissing contest they're all just pointing out that you're dumb.

Atticus isn't getting away with bigotry, he's a flawed character with a messed up upbringing. You can't separate that fact and it seems like a weird personality issue at this point.

I don't agree with any of this post but I graciously accept the free rent in your head, I suppose.

Well, that's not fair - I agree with the first part. The lovecraft stuff is the stage dressing of the show, the racism is the horror/the content. It's a very well done mix and I think if they played up the lovecraftian elements any harder it would detract from the meat of the show.

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JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!



Really didnít like what Tic did in this ep. Kinda ruins the show a bit for me now. Montrose was one thing, but heís not the protagonist who weíre supposed to be rooting for. I donít really give a poo poo about Tic now.

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