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Are they intentionally doing a different subgenre each episode? A cabin in the monster-infested woods Spooky cult mansion Haunted house It's based on a book, right? Is Chapter IV a Texas Chainsaw Massacre or a Child's Play homage?
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Yeah what is the Hate Crime equivalent of "torture porn"? As a white person I am not qualified to comment on this, but I definitely have been wondering each episode if the hate crime imagery is being wielded responsibly After Watchmen and Westworld I am wary of recommending an HBO show before it's complete, but I have at least enjoyed all 3 episodes so far. Agreed that episode 3 felt like a flashback at first and had me wondering just how disjointed each episode is going to be from the weeks prior.
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Sep 1, 2020 23:08
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Bleh, please don't remind me of AHS: Coven
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Sep 2, 2020 01:31
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Captain Monkey posted:
Who are you doing a Lol at? I can't imagine anyone thinks it's inaccurate, other than the fact that the hate crimes are often interrupted by monsters & ghosts. Who is claiming they didn't happen? Who is complaining about being uncomfortable?? Basically, what the hell are you talking about? I assume this is a reference to my post GoGoGadgetChris posted:As a white person I am not qualified to comment on this, but I definitely have been wondering each episode if the hate crime imagery is being wielded responsibly Which I certainly hope didn't come across as "  It makes me sad to have to see hate crimes, put them away I don't want to see them!!! "
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Sep 2, 2020 17:59
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The novel was written by a white dude? That's a bummer
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Sep 4, 2020 23:53
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The fashion model reading off the teleprompter is the same person as Budget Skarsgård, right? Like she has some spell that turns her into a Man? Although he bloodied his knuckles in that fist fight and she's invincible so maybe not. They pull a Mrs Doubtfire every time they're on screen and that can't be coincidental Also I know they're going for Period Appropriate but the homophobia this episode was not cool. I forget the exact lines but it was like Character: I made you see a gay blowjob. Your dad is gay, and you are gay too Tic: I'm not a SISSY Why include that
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Sep 7, 2020 19:46
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Regarde Aduck posted:Wait why is the racism ok because 'that's how it was' but the homophobia isn't? Did you perceive it as being condoned by the writers? No, of course not. Under no circumstances is racism OK. Unlike the racism, the homophobia and transphobia were committed by the main characters, who are not nameless faceless "Bad Guys" To put it simply, I don't like when protagonists are homophobic. Obviously protagonist =/= "good guys" but it still makes me do a 
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Sep 7, 2020 20:10
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Doltos posted:Because believe it or not the world was different back then. You seem to keep coming to this thread to get offended too. I don't know what you're trying to say here - And what do you mean I keep coming to this thread to get offended? Are you saying I'm a triggered lib or something? I'm just sharing my thoughts on the show which have recently trended toward the negative. I'll rephrase my gripe re: the homophobic slur. Imagine an Indiana Jones movie that takes place in 1940 but is released in 2020. Nazi Scientist: Mister Jones, soon you will be dead, like the filthy Jews and Gypsies, whom I want to kill all of [the Nazi punches Indiana Jones] Indiana Jones: You punch like a f*g In this hypothetical, I would find the Indiana Jones dialog to be more problematic even though the Nazi is saying a more horrific thing. It doesn't matter if it's reflective of the world back then, because it's media produced in and for 2020. If your protagonist is a homophobe and does not face immediate repercussion for their homophobia, then you've produced homophobic media.
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Sep 7, 2020 21:24
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nwin posted:I’ve only watched the first two episodes, but does anyone else have complaints about the audio? Yeah, this show and Umbrella Academy both have incredibly quiet dialog and loud sound effects
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Sep 7, 2020 21:48
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Moltke posted:the reality of 1950s america? Uh... not all black men in the 1950s were homophobic. It was a specific choice (by a white man, in 2016) to make him one. The show deserves incredible kudos for its portrayal of the milieu. I just think making Tic a gaybasher was a misstep is all
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Sep 7, 2020 21:54
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Mulva posted:Actually it was a choice by a black woman in 2020. Does that make it better, or worse for you? Significantly better! I assumed Tic's character was accurate to the Matt Ruff novel. I am not qualified to judge a POC's decisions in writing POC characters so I literally cannot be bothered by it and have no opinion of any value on the matter. Mandrel posted:maybe examine why you’re more comfortable with depictions of white supremacist cruelty to black people than you are to tic being quietly homophobic The depictions of white supremacist cruelty to black people are infinitely more painful to watch than the quiet homophobia. I did not mean to sound tolerant of the racism by discussing the intent & impact of the homophobia, which I thought had been a decision made by a white person.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:20
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Doltos posted:That doesn't make it any better or worse. You literally were just mad that it presents homophobia in a positive light and is dangerous media but because you learned it's a black woman it's okay. In the end you're missing the point that it was a reflection on how people would act and behave in the time period. Hm, can't say I actually agree with any part of this post, but I do hear, respect and acknowledge your opinion
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Sep 7, 2020 22:56
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Mean Bean Machine posted:lol. there are actually people like this in the world jesus And I vote
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Sep 8, 2020 01:44
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anothergod posted:she gives up her lifetime of celibacy for 10 pumps in a bathroom. Yeah if that was supposed to be an accurate portrayal of first time sex, where was the candles & rose petals?
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Sep 9, 2020 19:08
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Good body horror imagery, deec improvement with its LGBT themes, but 'sodomy as revenge' is a big no no imho At this point I just wait for the "Contemporary music interlude" the way I waited for peewee Hermann to say the magic word each episode Ahhhhh there it is!!! That was it!
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Sep 15, 2020 18:07
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anothergod posted:Are we still having the "I don't like characters who are bad people so this whole show is bad" conversation? IASIP is the only show to pull it off And there's a big difference between your "quote" vs playing into harmful stereotypes imho. I cast absolutely no judgment since the show is a work in progress, but this is yet another reason why shows should be dumped and binged instead of dripped out weekly.
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Sep 15, 2020 20:09
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Big "Skyler" energy
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Sep 16, 2020 20:47
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I still feel like there was a missing scene before Montrose's shawshank redemption escape
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Sep 18, 2020 20:08
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Beefeater1980 posted:Yes, Good characters should be 100% good and Bad characters should be 100% bad. Your post is indeed dumb. Not sure of its relation to mine though? (real dumb post lol)
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Sep 21, 2020 21:38
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Doltos posted:No your posts are exceedingly dumb and most of the people in the thread have told you that already. Pissing contests reflect poorly on all involved, friend. Just slam that Ignore button and move on  There's a difference between IASIP characters and those who "get away with" bigotry To the second half of your post, this show IS an anthology vignette, given how faintly the overarching story is woven through the episodes.
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Sep 21, 2020 22:07
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anothergod posted:Imagine hate watching this show lol I haven't gotten much of a hate-watcher vibe from the posters in here. Seems like mostly positive reception, some luke-warm to mildly critical posts, and a very small number of people who said they stopped watching & then also stopped posting?
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Sep 21, 2020 22:27
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anothergod posted:Imagine hate watching this show lol At risk of sounding self absorbed, is that wow directed at me? This is one of my favorite shows on television, even if I find some of the characters weak and/or problematic.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:12
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Doltos posted:Yeah I keep saying that's both the best and worst problem with the show. The lovecraft stuff legitimately isn't nearly as scary as the racist stuff. Just the checkpoint/communist scene in this episode alone was more frightening than anything since the Sundown Town in episode 1. I don't agree with any of this post but I graciously accept the free rent in your head, I suppose. Well, that's not fair - I agree with the first part. The lovecraft stuff is the stage dressing of the show, the racism is the horror/the content. It's a very well done mix and I think if they played up the lovecraftian elements any harder it would detract from the meat of the show.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:28
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Deec episode. Toward the bottom of the list but def watchable
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Sep 22, 2020 20:36
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With potentially a few exceptions, the people who strongly dislike this show are either actively racist or "I don't see color" racist Show is a solid 3.6 roentgen so anyone getting mad-dad over it has some Issues
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Sep 24, 2020 04:15
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Heeheee, I will always love how much you learn about someone when they complain about an Ari Aster film
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Sep 24, 2020 17:27
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drat time to heeheee again already?!
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Sep 24, 2020 17:45
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A third heeheee, drat they must be running a special today 
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Sep 24, 2020 21:56
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I give every actor and every character an A+++ except for Tic's character (B-) and MKW's character (C-) and acting (F) Similar to Watchmen, I can't shake the feeling that this is a show about the black experience for white audiences, which is fine, but such a terribly crowded space. At the end of the day though, an HBO show's purpose is to sell HBO subscriptions, so I shouldn't be expecting anything but high production value entertainment. It's really, really nailing that though. I think this is going to be a show with lasting legacy, but likely not a second season (and that's not an inherently bad thing)
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Oct 2, 2020 00:18
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This isn't a Jordan Peele show anymore than it's a J. J. Abrams show
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Oct 2, 2020 01:27
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So wildly inaccurate I'm not even sure if you're responding to me
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Oct 2, 2020 02:38
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Yeah there's an audio mixing problem with the show, unfortunately. Vocal track is a solid 10db too low compared to music and background sfx
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Oct 3, 2020 06:00
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There have been many good episodes, but this is the first Excellent episode of the show
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Oct 5, 2020 07:22
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Some truly excellent, amazing episodes in a regrettably mediocre show. Whatever infected HBO's Watchmen made its way into this too No season 2 please
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Oct 20, 2020 23:03
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socialsecurity posted:Hey some people enjoyed it, you can just pretend season 2 doesn't exist. Oh I don't mean "it was bad so I don't want more of it to exist" (again, loved it, some incredible episodes ). I meant, this felt like it was conceived of and executed as a one-and-done, so don't try to tack on a superfluous Season 2 just to sell HBO subs
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Oct 21, 2020 00:25
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Abbey Lee Kershaw is an Australian fashion model who was cast because of her resemblance to Jordan Patrick Smith. I have to imagine she was initially going to be a minor part and the 'character' was primarily portrayed by the two other actors. A lot of the character fell flat because she is not a leading lady, but what they were going for was a fantastically accurate tribute to the self-loathing, self-defeating white feminist who tries to claim camaraderie with actual oppressed groups while lifting the drawbridge at every opportunity.
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Oct 22, 2020 18:13
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Josh Lyman posted:She’s not a great actress but she was in Fury Road and The Neon Demon. Do you recall her character's name, fate, and any single line of dialog?  She has acting credits but she's not an actor.
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Open Source Idiom posted:She was a last minute recast after Elizabeth Debicki dropped out. Which explains a lot. Oh man that would have owned. She's great!
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