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Oh my god yes poo poo sucks. I just wanted to write books about wizards, I don't know why it needs to involve so much doxxing. But re the interview it's been ages (article dropped late November 2019, I think the interview was a couple of weeks before that?) and there were technical issues that meant I never had a proper transcript so I'm just running from memory but I think I said Canaan House reminded me a ship from Battlefleet Gothic? And then I started saying "oh, that's Warhammer 40,000, if you know it" until I realised she was giving the look. HtN wasn't out at that point, if it was I'd have brought up The River and it's a point I want to hopefully hit next time. For some additional colour though, because this really stuck with me and I don't really see it discussed in TLT fandom spaces: we talked about the role ANZ humour played in it, and later I read Damon Reese's wonderful essay The Uncanny Valley of Culture and her words came back to me – I think a lot of readers don't understand the social role of the memery, how it's less about WELL, THAT HAPPENED style Hollywood quips and more of a warning sign that something is very wrong. Gideon is telling jokes not because she's a cool funtime prankster but because she's terrified and humour is the thing stopping her from having a nervous breakdown. This para in particular is like ... yeah that's Nav, if you're from this part of the world you recognise it instantly. Australian and NZ culture differ in a lot of ways but we definitely share this one. quote:Maddy, whose lack of attention to detail was the driving force behind Chay’s death, does not meaningfully engage with it. She simply refuses; the trauma and guilt weighs too heavily on her shoulders. Her relationship with Chay becomes defined by a ghastly breach of consent, and she is so deeply stuck in survival mode that she sees no way out than to maintain the status quo. SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 06:41 on May 24, 2022 |
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I mean, I feel like Gideon would probably be telling jokes regardless. Like, John's memes work as a signal of something terribly wrong because making a "none pizza with left beef" reference is astoundingly inappropriate in the context where he makes it, and so if you understand it you realize that it says something a little terrifying about where God is mentally. Gideon's memes are less weird because humor as a defensive mechanism sounds pretty reasonable in her situation; it's just that they rely on information mysteriously beamed into her brain from the ancient past of 2020.
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Nav would absolutely be funny in more chill surroundings, she's a bigtime shitposter, it's more that a lot of the framing/timing of the jokes is like ... it'll be a very tense scene, and she'll crack a joke, and it doesn't break the tension. It's whistling steam from a pressure cooker. Kiwis joke when we're happy, but there's a very specific sort of humour that comes out when poo poo is really bad and nobody is willing to look it in the eye.
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I'm now incredibly interested in reading a Kiwi analysis of these books.
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Happy Landfill posted:I'm now incredibly interesting in reading a Kiwi analysis of these books. COWS WATCH THE SUNSET?!? TAZ YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 06:57 on May 24, 2022 |
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I am using all my self-control not to spoil Nona right now but get back to me about this in September because I HAVE THOUGHTS AND I REALLY WANNA YELL I'm pretty much going to need to just leave this thread until I get and read the book in September, aren't I?
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Everyone posted:I'm pretty much going to need to just leave this thread until I get and read the book in September, aren't I?  I just really want to, holy poo poo aaaa
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I am using all my self-control not to spoil Nona right now but get back to me about this in September because I HAVE THOUGHTS AND I REALLY WANNA YELL  Is is September yet?
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Nah that one line, specifically chosen to give as little as possible away and spoilered anyway, is as far as I'm gonna go. I will not talk about anything in Nona until after September from now on, Scout's honour. is it ok to be jealous though if its not ok i can make it up to you by letting you tell me all about it, it'll be a struggle but
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I'm so torn; I want to get my hands on an ARC somehow but if I did that I would have to wait that much longer for Alecto Edit: for the love of Jod please check out this amazing fanart https://blazing-spectre.tumblr.com/post/661668317795418112/dios-apate-unlike-ianthe-i-dont-think-the-old For reference: https://i.imgur.com/bV4MICw.jpg Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 09:09 on May 24, 2022 |
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Moira Quirk's reading Nona, and the pre-order's up on Audible.
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Tamsyn has said it's not Homestuck because it is clearly Final Fantasy 10 and honestly that makes way more sense. When I first heard that I didn't believe it at all but now I can't unsee it. Resurrection Beasts = Sin, Heralds = Sinspawn, Jod = Jecht, Harrow = YunaLulu, Gideon = AuronTidus. I hadn't thought particularly FF10, but I've always described the sort of sprawling mishmash of environments, magic, technology, genres, etc in GtN/HtN as feeling a lot like a JRPG. DreamingofRoses posted:Moira Quirk's reading Nona, and the pre-order's up on Audible. This brings me much happiness.
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Tamsyn will preview  Alecto at the Third Annual Virtual TorCon on Thursday June 9thquote:6 PM ET/3 PM PT: Something Wicked This Way Comes I am incredibly intrigued since Nona isn't even out yet. I almost wonder if she's tossing a bone (  ) to those who have already read the Nona ARC
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Happy Landfill posted:Tamsyn will preview Nona was an expanded part of Alecto, right? I don't think it's that surprising if Alecto is well on the way to being finished if it isn't finished already.
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Short story from the paperback of Harrow is up in full for free on Tor’s site: https://twitter.com/tordotcom/status/1534521628075233281?s=21&t=WlNFtKZpp69-Pn71C1VDcA
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As yet unsent is fabulous.
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Any way to download that to put on my Kindle? edit: I forgot how flexible Kindle and Calibre are and did a low-tech of selecting the whole text, pasting it into notepad, and putting the .txt file on my Kindle. Humerus fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jun 8, 2022 |
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neongrey posted:i think thats the thing that helps me tolerate the memes in the series so well-- they're applied fairly naturally, like you would if they're part of the normal vernacular of the people using them. I like them less when they stick out more, and I definitely remember there being a few of those, though I cant remember which specifically. The only one that landed off for me was the "none pizza left beef" reference, because grammatically it's such a weird construction it's hard to make it feel natural.
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Just had a startling brainwave revelation after reading both books and all available supplementary material in a week-long marathon. Nona the Ninth is the Roxas parts of Kingdom Hearts. I prophecy this.
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Put me down for "it's an elaborate shaggy dog story and Nona is actually completely unrelated to both Gideon and Harrowhark; Palamedes just thought she did because of a misunderstanding."
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Humerus posted:Any way to download that to put on my Kindle?
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It's so good I'm excited for Nona and Alectro. I feel like most of the dangling mysteries from Harrow are solved thanks to us million money's on the internet theory crafting but even if it's not a twist at all any more I still love the way the puzzle fits.
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rohan posted:If you have Harrow on your kindle it might automatically update your copy to include the story at the end — I bought Harrow on release and it now includes As Yet Unsent. I bought Harrow through Google so I'll have to redownload it to check. But check I will because I want to reread Gideon and Harrow both before Nona.
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M_Gargantua posted:It's so good I'm excited for Nona and Alectro. Is there a collected resource of these theories anywhere? I've poked around here and the fandom wiki, but still have some nagging questions about Harrow.
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Someone on Reddit transcribed the reading. It was very short https://www.reddit.com/r/TheNinthHo...web2x&context=3 quote:Alecto The Ninth. Edit: I'm very curious how this comes off to those who have read the Nona ARC lol but also 
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Really feeling like we won't be seeing Harrow in Nona, I mean besides Nona being the person in Harrow's body at the moment. I mean that is what's happening right? That opening is basically picking up where HtN ended.
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I think last we left it Gideon's is now in charge of Harrows body. Harrows soul took the escape hatch and wound up in Alectos body in the tomb. And Nona I suspect is a pretty much clean slate soul inhabiting Gideon's body, having been power washed of memory and context from being brain dead in the tomb for 10 millennia.
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M_Gargantua posted:I think last we left it From what I recall from the excerpt Nona has black hair that grows too fast. After what Ianthe did, it’s 100% Harrow’s body. big dyke energy posted:Really feeling like we won't be seeing Harrow in Nona, I mean besides Nona being the person in Harrow's body at the moment. I mean that is what's happening right? That opening is basically picking up where HtN ended. I think you’re right that it’s basically jumping off from the epilogue in Harrow. Super interested in what’s going on with Gideon’s body right now though DreamingofRoses fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jun 13, 2022 |
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I thought the hair growing too fast was a problem because the red starts to show and they have to dye it again. How would Harrows body be with Cam and Coronabeth when they were last with Gideon's body?
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Gideon is the one with boobs, Harrow's lack of is repeatedly commented on. QED
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M_Gargantua posted:I thought the hair growing too fast was a problem because the red starts to show and they have to dye it again. How would Harrows body be with Cam and Coronabeth when they were last with Gideon's body? Have you read the short story? (Not being glib, seriously asking.) Also, the quote from the excerpt: “Nona ate while Pyrrha brushed out her hair in short, brisk strokes, letting its fine black sheets fall over Nona’s shoulders. It went almost to the bottom of her back now, and it was soft and thin as water: every fourth haircut day they cut it, but not every haircut day because it was a pain, and because people noticed your hair growing less when it was already long, Camilla said.” Dying roots wouldn’t be a problem, the problem is implied to be people noticing that it keeps growing back really fast. DreamingofRoses fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jun 14, 2022 |
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I feel like if it was Gideon's body someone would have commented on her incredible biceps, also.
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Big enough that if Gideon were to take the throne, she'd be known as Princeps Biceps
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tangentially related but a goon author got a very nice writeup by tamsyn https://thespinoff.co.nz/books/14-06-2022/a-homecoming-for-new-zealand-fantasy-tamsyn-muir-reviews-the-dawnhounds
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late to this party, but goddamn am i ever glad i decided to show up. bought the first book a while ago, put off reading it until a long crosscountry flight, then absolutely devoured it and started on the second. i feel like a drunk girl at a club who just wants to hug all these characters and tell them how much i love them. also according to the very cool and official house identification tool, i belong in the fourth house, which tracks, unfortunately.
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