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Everyone
Sep 6, 2019


Sibyl Disobedience posted:

It's funny that this should come up. I've only had Ready Player One ranted about to me, but it occurred to me that the Lyctor Trial was kinda like what the contest in Ready Player One would be if it were in a book that wasn't insipid.

I had this thought while wondering if Ortus Nigenad's godawful drowning-in-its-own-exposition poetry was a shot at Ernest Cline. So enjoy that analogy.

Ready Player One is pretty much the "'member berries" from South Park in book form. Aech is a black lesbian who functions as the main character's "best bud" in RP1, presenting herself as a white male like the protagonist. Part of that is because of the advantages (lack of racist bullshit) in doing so. It's a bit ham-fisted but not deliberately offensive. Another part is that Aech feels more comfortable around guys, especially straight guys. It's not a sexual thing so much as kind of a "comfort zone" thing. And it's less awful in that book than I'm likely describing it here. There's no such of shame or inferiority about Aech in terms of all that. She is who she is and she likes who she is.

Gideon seems like a smarter, truer take on that. She likes porn and dirty/bad jokes and cool weapons. She seems like somebody who'd like to be "one of the guys" without being a guy, even a straight guy.

For the record I'm sorry if I stepped on anyone's issue in fumbling toward my point, such as it was. I did not mean to do that if I did.

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PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013



Sibyl Disobedience posted:

I had this thought while wondering if Ortus Nigenad's godawful drowning-in-its-own-exposition poetry was a shot at Ernest Cline. So enjoy that analogy.

Ortus is a good boy, why would you inflict this upon him

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.


PupsOfWar posted:

Ortus is a good boy, why would you inflict this upon him

One of my favorite bits of HTN is the part where Harrow is hugging him and doesn't want to let go because he's the only other person besides Gideon who knows the hell she grew up in, and she realizes how she mistreated him and how she doesn't deserve his loyalty but he gives it anyway because he is a good boy

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019


Riot Carol Danvers posted:

One of my favorite bits of HTN is the part where Harrow is hugging him and doesn't want to let go because he's the only other person besides Gideon who knows the hell she grew up in, and she realizes how she mistreated him and how she doesn't deserve his loyalty but he gives it anyway because he is a good boy

Is it wrong that I want the Emperor and Gideon (even Gideon as Harrow) to go to the Ninth's planet for whatever reason and while there share Gideon's true parentage with the folks there? Especially Crux. Because I really want to read Muir's description of Crux's "I just shat my pants" face.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

There is no route out of the maze. The maze shifts as you move through it, because it is alive.




At this stage all I really want out of Alecto is to give me some basic answers about the world-built, and I'll be super happy. It's already a cherished trilogy no matter what the third one does.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS



mdemone posted:

At this stage all I really want out of Alecto is to give me some basic answers about the world-built, and I'll be super happy. It's already a cherished trilogy no matter what the third one does.

More or less me, too.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

It's not the red form anymore.
Incidental bones can file under the greens.


mdemone posted:

It's already a cherished trilogy no matter what the third one does.

Harrow, you need to pick the red skull to destroy necromany forever, the blue skull to control the resurrection beasts or the green skull to make everyone undead.

Man and skellington can never coexist otherwise.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019


Strategic Tea posted:

Harrow, you need to pick the red skull to destroy necromany forever, the blue skull to control the resurrection beasts or the green skull to make everyone undead.

Man and skellington can never coexist otherwise.

Harrow: (Grabs all the skulls because she really likes bones and skulls)

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003



I think after reading Harrow (and hasn't the author even explicitly said) that these books are essentially lesbian romantic wish fulfillment which can be taken to mean Gideon and Harrow will have a relatively happy and romantically flavored resolution?

quote:

Harrow, you need to pick the red skull to destroy necromany forever, the blue skull to control the resurrection beasts or the green skull to make everyone undead.
haha

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks


I am increasingly worried about angry fan backlash if there isn't a happy griddlehark ending in the last book.

mewse
May 2, 2006




When Gideon's voice finally re-emerged in the 2nd book I was almost physically relieved

Gideon is such a blunt force trauma of a character. I don't need a "riding into the sunset" ending in the third book but it would be nice if some characters like sextus and gideon are returned to some form of life at the end

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

But Nemo, I am Pagliacci

Here we go, here's some Aiglamene (and Baby Griddle)

https://twitter.com/deirdres_art/status/1370075312583815174?s=20

https://twitter.com/deirdres_art/status/1369715786105958400?s=20

Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Mar 11, 2021

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMPIN' ON INTO THE POWER LINES




Exciting Lemon

You say that like being alive is a good thing. Death seems rather.... fluid

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




well now that's just goddamn adorable

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.




There can be an ending where Gideon and Harrow are both happy and not with each other romantically. Which is what I'm thinking will happen but I don't see myself being disappointed with anything that happens.

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010



Humerus posted:

There can be an ending where Gideon and Harrow are both happy and not with each other romantically. Which is what I'm thinking will happen but I don't see myself being disappointed with anything that happens.

There's one spot on her tumblr where Muir summarizes all three books thusly:

- Gideon was about two girls crammed into a bloodstained get-along shirt
- Harrow is about two girls who are not enjoying this Duke of Ed residential very much
- Alecto will be about girls being annoyed that it is legal for their exes to talk to each other

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

There is no route out of the maze. The maze shifts as you move through it, because it is alive.




Foxfire_ posted:

There's one spot on her tumblr where Muir summarizes all three books thusly:

- Gideon was about two girls crammed into a bloodstained get-along shirt
- Harrow is about two girls who are not enjoying this Duke of Ed residential very much
- Alecto will be about girls being annoyed that it is legal for their exes to talk to each other

....I can get behind this.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS



yeah I remember reading that post and thinking "that just makes me more excited to read alecto"

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks


https://twitter.com/EmilyE_Draws/status/1371560506721366016?s=20

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019


silvergoose posted:

yeah I remember reading that post and thinking "that just makes me more excited to read alecto"

The most exciting thing for me in that post is that it's apparently not just two girls getting annoyed.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

But Nemo, I am Pagliacci

Here's some more good Aiglimene

https://twitter.com/deirdres_art/status/1372590250011287552?s=20

Edit:

Entropic posted:

Gaylord Brain Injury

God I'm sorry this is so loving funny

Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Mar 18, 2021

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS



Happy Landfill posted:

Here's some more good Aiglimene

https://twitter.com/deirdres_art/status/1372590250011287552?s=20

Edit:


God I'm sorry this is so loving funny

wait, poo poo, now I really want an image of the only-referenced training session "involving Crux and repeating crossbows" or something like that.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks


I somehow always pictured Aiglamene as being way less swole. I mean she is described as being almost as ancient as Crux. When I'm imagining character voices in my head, for Aiglamene I tend to go to Shohreh Aghdashloo for some reason.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

But Nemo, I am Pagliacci

They...they grow up so fast 😢

https://twitter.com/deirdres_art/status/1373677387355975680?s=19

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!





Everyone posted:

Okay, I need graphic novel adaptions of this trilogy done in this style by this artist and I need them right the gently caress now! That was awesome, is what I'm saying.

Someone channeling Hark! a Vagrant hard here, and it’s glorious.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks


https://twitter.com/catpotion/status/1374117530025955330?s=20

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.


Toki and Mads are going all in, they spent yesterday doing a bunch of cosplay scenes. Spoilers for GTN and HTN:

https://twitter.com/Tokiimon/status/1374412053570457606?s=19

https://twitter.com/platiyum/status/1374462987742842896?s=19

https://twitter.com/Tokiimon/status/1374463362013175822?s=19

https://twitter.com/Tokiimon/status/1374830736532893698?s=19

Riot Carol Danvers fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 24, 2021

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

they do carbonized bone dust in space, motherfuckers

https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1377471058366902273?s=20

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019


Kesper North posted:

they do carbonized bone dust in space, motherfuckers

https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1377471058366902273?s=20

Somewhere Harrow read that and got aroused.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS



I honestly wouldn't put it past those wizards to have encased their ships in bone dust for this.

Uranium Phoenix
Jun 20, 2007


RADIOACTIVE DUST SURGE DETECTED


silvergoose posted:

I honestly wouldn't put it past those wizards to have encased their ships in bone dust for this.

"Your mind idiotically focused upon its bizarre shape and style: it was not a Cohort shuttle, nor any kind of shuttle of the Nine Houses, and not only because it had not been adorned with even a single bone."

It's already 100% canon that they do.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks


https://twitter.com/catpotion/status/1379258781796761601?s=20

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

So, I started a book club, and because all my real-life friends are very, very bored, they agreed to join and even let me pick the book.

In a fit of whimsy that I may regret since most of my friends are not nerds, I chose the one about lesbian necromancers in space.

Does anybody have some ideas for good discussion topics?

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Ooh! Are we messing with Adora?





Off the top of my head:

Favorite/Least Favorite House/Character/etc.

Interesting foreshadowing, like the part where they found the dead body in the furnace. as an example

When did they figure out the mystery, which leads into

The symbolism of Dulcinea's name/the makeup/being stripped bare, either metaphorically or literally.

"One flesh, one end."

Also, I just like the poem about the 9 houses, idk how much you can pull out of that.

Uranium Phoenix
Jun 20, 2007


RADIOACTIVE DUST SURGE DETECTED


Rand Brittain posted:

So, I started a book club, and because all my real-life friends are very, very bored, they agreed to join and even let me pick the book.

In a fit of whimsy that I may regret since most of my friends are not nerds, I chose the one about lesbian necromancers in space.

Does anybody have some ideas for good discussion topics?

Make everyone guess "who or what is the killer?" at 3 different points in the book and then everyone shares how wrong or right they were at the end.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Ooh! Are we messing with Adora?





Uranium Phoenix posted:

Make everyone guess "who or what is the killer?" at 3 different points in the book and then everyone shares how wrong or right they were at the end.

Do that one

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMPIN' ON INTO THE POWER LINES




Exciting Lemon

The thing about necromancers is you also have to ask the question if/how you're ever going to see that character again at those same points. Wonderful seeing just how wrong everyone is.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011




I’m curious if they get overwhelmed at the amount of characters in the first book. What really tripped me up is sometimes they’re referred to by name and sometimes by “cavalier of x house” etc.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS



Ccs posted:

I’m curious if they get overwhelmed at the amount of characters in the first book. What really tripped me up is sometimes they’re referred to by name and sometimes by “cavalier of x house” etc.

That's mostly Sextus though, who uses everyone's proper title at all times. Baron Tettares, Reverend Mother, etc etc.

Well, and the cavs all call eachother by house number and nothing else.

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Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Ooh! Are we messing with Adora?





Ask at the beginning of the book "which character do you think would make the best sex pal?"

Both setting up the tone of the story pretty well AND a good groaner.

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