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Feb 6, 2021 08:31
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Mister No posted:wait, what's the new boss? Wind God. Flying... lion-bird-thing (probably a dragon?) that summons tornadoes that chase you around & puts vortexes on the ground that trap you until you dash out of them. Invincibility phase BS in there too. Also always flying and always moving, so good luck with slower projectile weapons.
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Feb 6, 2021 08:37
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is it a new end of act 3 boss? i've played quite a bit since the white cat came out and i haven't seen that yet
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Feb 6, 2021 08:40
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Mister No posted:is it a new end of act 3 boss? i've played quite a bit since the white cat came out and i haven't seen that yet No, it's an alternative boss for stage 2.
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Feb 6, 2021 09:30
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Evil Kit posted:
Oh, this happened me a pair of times. I didn't know why I was struggling more with him, but it's this, he isn't as fast as the last two heroes nor it has the cat's cc. Dog's grenades are the weakest of the four, but still, it's nice to have with two extra damage ascensions, so help against shielded enemies, to bypass their shield. edit: I was thinking. It didn't occur to me before in my noobness, but tiger (leopard?) isn't the one with an embedded synergy with a weapon class. Tiger => affinity with sniper weapons, shock damage Dog => affinity with explosive weapons, elemental weapons (as dual wielding makes easy to apply the combo), but he has to avoid two handed weapons like bows or the talisman (can't be used in dual wielding). Cat => affinity with elemental weapons of course, corrosion damage in special because nades. Bird => Close ranged weapons like shotguns, as in any case he is going to be close his enemies given the skills. This is made more explicit by a single ascension, Victory Rush, which can be triggered easily with shotguns. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Feb 6, 2021 |
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Feb 6, 2021 12:08
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Evil Kit posted:huge rear end effort post I took it upon myself to add this to the stupid little (outdated probably) text doc I had posted over on the Goon Group, no one will read it there... but I figure such an effort shouldn't be forgotten. (Let me know if you want it removed or something.)
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Feb 7, 2021 00:15
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Im_Special posted:I took it upon myself to add this to the stupid little (outdated probably) text doc I had posted over on the Goon Group, no one will read it there... but I figure such an effort shouldn't be forgotten. (Let me know if you want it removed or something.) Doesn't bother me at all, sharing information is always cool in my book.
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Feb 7, 2021 00:19
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Well, playing the Lightning Tiger (in multiplayer) I have managed to get to the last (?) boss once (the ship?), so that is much better than before. I am still not quite certain what the best way in general is to do damage, though. There always seems to be a point in the game where my gun damage doesn't seem to be doing much to the health bars (or maybe I am just imagining it).
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Feb 7, 2021 02:04
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Pasha posted:Well, playing the Lightning Tiger (in multiplayer) I have managed to get to the last (?) boss once (the ship?), so that is much better than before. I am still not quite certain what the best way in general is to do damage, though. There always seems to be a point in the game where my gun damage doesn't seem to be doing much to the health bars (or maybe I am just imagining it). When looking to find good weapons generally ones that synergize with your ascensions/occult scrolls are best, but the most important part are the Inscriptions you find on various weapons. A good set of inscriptions are the difference between a mediocre weapon and a busted weapon. Generally it's a good idea to be on the lookout for +Lucky Shot% inscriptions, usually the Rare (light blue text) or Exclusive (brown text) inscriptions are ones that will really set a particular weapon apart from other things. Once you unlock Gemini Inscriptions you can make some truly silly paired weapon combos when they start dropping in Duo Frejlord. It's also important that once you find a really good set of inscriptions on a weapon to upgrade it at a weapon smith if you're keeping it around, increasing the base damage helps immensely with +% damage things. If you're in Duo Frejlord and your weapon isn't at least +5 or +6 you're really gimping yourself out of some damage. Developing an eye for really busted inscription combos on weapons is kind of key for winning the game, especially when you get to Elite difficulty. edit: It should be noted that the reason Tiger really really likes snipers is that his primary ability Fatal Current triggers bases the Thunder Strike damage from hitting an enemy with a shot from your weapon on the base damage of that weapon. Bigger base damage number = more damage from Thunder Strike!
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Feb 7, 2021 03:50
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Evil Kit posted:edit: It should be noted that the reason Tiger really really likes snipers is that his primary ability Fatal Current triggers bases the Thunder Strike damage from hitting an enemy with a shot from your weapon on the base damage of that weapon. Bigger base damage number = more damage from Thunder Strike! This also works juuuuust fine with rocket launchers BTW 
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Feb 7, 2021 08:48
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But weirdly, doesn't seem to work correctly with shotguns. Re: earlier discussion, yeah, alternating between solo runs and co-op with one friend, the game doesn't seem tuned for solo as much as it does for multiplayer. Definitely have more fun with the latter, at least.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:07
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SkyeAuroline posted:But weirdly, doesn't seem to work correctly with shotguns. Maybe because it's based on the projectile damage, and shotguns have several projectiles of low damage.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:14
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Turin Turambar posted:Maybe because it's based on the projectile damage, and shotguns have several projectiles of low damage. Yeah, that's what my coop partner guessed it was. I tend towards shotguns so rip to me.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:36
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Osmosisch posted:This also works juuuuust fine with rocket launchers BTW Eh, doesn't have a good crit multiplier which Tiger really does like. Still works for the actual damage hit of course. I think Tiger Cannon is kinda bad personally and they haven't added any variations. It's more a personal choice thing of course. SkyeAuroline posted:Re: earlier discussion, yeah, alternating between solo runs and co-op with one friend, the game doesn't seem tuned for solo as much as it does for multiplayer. Definitely have more fun with the latter, at least. I genuinely enjoy the game more Solo and it feels fairly decently tuned for it once you're max level up to Elite difficulty. I still haven't gotten a Solo win on Nightmare yet. Then again I just don't have any regular co-op gamers that can join me on it so that is also part of the issue.
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Feb 7, 2021 22:29
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It seems that I can consistently get to the docks in the 3rd area when umbrella spirits and lobsters start spawning and then I eat poo poo because I can't find a safe place and enemies do a billion damage. Anybody got any tips?
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Feb 8, 2021 00:06
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WarpedLichen posted:It seems that I can consistently get to the docks in the 3rd area when umbrella spirits and lobsters start spawning and then I eat poo poo because I can't find a safe place and enemies do a billion damage. Anybody got any tips? I don't have any specific tips for umbrellas because they die so quick I just target them first usually when clearing out enemies, but Lobsters are tailor designed to prevent you from just hiding behind a piece of terrain and picking enemies off. The only "safe" place in this game imo is the empty space you'll be strafing too while murdering dudes along the way.
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Feb 8, 2021 00:39
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Well, I have started playing as the Armor Bird and I am doing much better - beaten the game twice so far. The last time was very interesting, as I had buffed up Leap so much I was one-shotting everything at the end (and with the ability to reset Leap with a kill, I was just Leaping around the maps killing everything). Note that this was in a Solo game, so the enemy HP is much lower. How does Elite difficulty change things?
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Feb 8, 2021 05:00
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Finally got my first win the Lightning Tiger, had to use a freebie from the Scroll that trades all your money for an extra life in World 3, but once I got to the boss my damage was enough to one shot every regular enemy. Do elite enemies deal more damage? I was feeling very squishy by World 3, and I have no idea how to improve my movement so I never get hit.
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Feb 8, 2021 05:44
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Elite actually does some pretty interesting things! The biggest and most obvious change is each World is gonna be absolutely covered in traps that you've seen before in vaults, as well as some new ones you haven't seen. Flamethrower traps, spike traps, AOE shock traps in World 1, Giant Boulder Traps in World 2 etc. The other big difference is that while enemies don't necessarily deal more damage, they start appearing with enhancements. These are basically enemy modifiers that range from +HP or +DMG dealt to casting elemental balls at you, having shield/armor bars they normally wouldn't, emitting AOE healing circles for all their friends, the list goes on. You're also more likely to get Challenges or random Elite spawns and bosses will have more health.
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Feb 8, 2021 06:49
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Evil Kit posted:Giant Boulder Traps in World 2 etc. noooooo In single player the rolling boulders are fine but GFR's netcode is not nearly good enough on multiplayer as a client to dodge them consistent, I do NOT like where that's going.
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Feb 8, 2021 06:55
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In my experience the Giant Boulder Traps in Elite mode are less "here's a tough gauntlet of boulders you need to navigate" and more "hey idiot don't stand here for too long".
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Feb 8, 2021 07:02
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SkyeAuroline posted:noooooo As Arzaac mentioned it's more "getting hit by these means you turned your brain off". They're usually out in the open with two at most in one room. You'll understand when you see them! Also protip for boulder vaults as Bird: your Leap makes you immune to all damage, so you can just Leap through your boulder problems
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Feb 8, 2021 07:07
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Well, finally got through a solo run post-Wind God update. Complete luck, granted, only made it because of the "extra life for all your copper" scroll... but still made it! Turns out "half of crit damage bypasses shields/armor" combines really well with 6.4x critX Goshawk with "crit damage is applied to all enemies in 10m".
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Feb 10, 2021 06:12
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Lightning kitty makes me happy in that I don't have to be the best sniper in the world to do okay on him. Hell, with lightning governor ascension, I can even go full close range build. Probably not the most impressive build so far, but I had a lot of fun with a mid-range build focusing on Lightning Governor , Thunder Nemesis, Bolt from the Blue, and Magical Supply. So, my Fatal Current kicks off, I'm constantly shocking people, thereby summoning more Fatal Current bolts, thereby killing more dudes, thereby launching more Fatal Currents. Then I happened into a CritX gemini pair of a sniper rifle with lots o CritX and a cavalry, so that I pretty much always used the cavalry.
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Feb 11, 2021 02:45
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A friend got me this a bit ago and I've been playing a bunch of it. Been playing a bunch of the lightning kitty. This is my best solo attempt on elite mode so far, almost got to the end but died to some fireballs from someone I had killed already  my best crit damage too.
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Feb 11, 2021 23:33
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Dumb question, but what is the niche of Dog supposed to be? Tiger seems to be sniper and burst/AoE damage. Bird is survivability and close-range fighting. Cat seems to be triggering elemental effects (I haven't played much with Cat, so I don't really know). Dog is ... explosives I guess?
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Feb 19, 2021 05:15
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Pasha posted:Dumb question, but what is the niche of Dog supposed to be? Tiger seems to be sniper and burst/AoE damage. Bird is survivability and close-range fighting. Cat seems to be triggering elemental effects (I haven't played much with Cat, so I don't really know). Dog is ... explosives I guess? Dog is explosives, dual weld and staying in dual weld, and crit. Big HP pool too so if you can get things that give him lifesteal with more Hp then go for it. He's all about maxing out explosive stuff, X times damage right after reload, and anything that ups crit while dualing. If you're able to get ammo regen while ulting or even better use no ammo but 3 x damage while ulting he can get crazy. The types of guns you want are a bit limiting though. Not too many explode in the game. Usually two of the same gun like that one vacuum explodey one does the trick. The really fast one knife explode gives me carpal so I wouldn't recommend it. You'll want to dual as much as possible after midgame as that's where all your damage comes from. Ignore his grenade builds as they arent great. One neat trick, while you're on your path for the right weapon is if you have a gun that recoils too much, is to put one with no recoil as your primary and then dual. Dualing takes the recoil from your primary so now your secondary has good recoil now. He is probably my highest damage at 20 million on nightmare BUT that's before they nerfed lifesteal. He takes a bit to get going and kinda feels slow due to most of his builds needing big weapons. He needs companions too. Once his explosive stuff is maxed, just firing into the distance will proc so many numbers its hard to see. Buckwheat Sings fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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Feb 19, 2021 05:37
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Buckwheat Sings posted:Dog is explosives, dual weld and staying in dual weld, and crit. Big HP pool too so if you can get things that give him lifesteal with more Hp then go for it. FWIW while I'm not near as good I've been having pretty good luck chasing the active effects Dog has, if I don't get good dual wield drops going. Big rof and damage boosts, mostly functional health gating... They seem to work fairly well. On the other hand of issues: noticed since the last patch that the final boss's gas effect seems to still be applying to characters even with no visible jellyfish for myself or the host. No idea what's causing this to happen but we've had two consecutive runs fail to mystery gas insta killing one of us and the other catching an artillery shell or something similar. Is this an issue others are having too?
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Mar 5, 2021 17:17
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SkyeAuroline posted:On the other hand of issues: noticed since the last patch that the final boss's gas effect seems to still be applying to characters even with no visible jellyfish for myself or the host. No idea what's causing this to happen but we've had two consecutive runs fail to mystery gas insta killing one of us and the other catching an artillery shell or something similar. Is this an issue others are having too? To be clear, are you wondering into a zone of a jellyfish and killing it and wondering why you're still slowed and have a weird green gas effect around your screen? That's the Corrosion status effect which slows you down heavily, which in combo with artillery that comes out fast and one-shots you basically is probably what's getting you killed. Corrosion is the only status effect I care to get immunity for for that reason alone, the slow is kinda bonkers. If you're actually just clearing out the jellyfish and then wandering through the area they were in and getting slowed then that sounds kinda weird and janky, not sure what could be causing it. I haven't played a super large amount since the last patch but I haven't encountered that issue when getting to the final boss the handful of times I did.
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Mar 5, 2021 17:34
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Evil Kit posted:To be clear, are you wondering into a zone of a jellyfish and killing it and wondering why you're still slowed and have a weird green gas effect around your screen? That's the Corrosion status effect which slows you down heavily, which in combo with artillery that comes out fast and one-shots you basically is probably what's getting you killed. Corrosion is the only status effect I care to get immunity for for that reason alone, the slow is kinda bonkers. I've been clearing jellies as dog while my partner kills the octopus & retrieves the shell as leopard. The jellyfish don't last long enough to even make an aura and I get tagged with it even back near the cannon line. It applies the corrosion effect and shreds health immediately to death.
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Mar 5, 2021 17:40
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SkyeAuroline posted:I've been clearing jellies as dog while my partner kills the octopus & retrieves the shell as leopard. The jellyfish don't last long enough to even make an aura and I get tagged with it even back near the cannon line. It applies the corrosion effect and shreds health immediately to death. Sounds like it might be a multiplayer latency issue then? I've never seen it though I typically play singleplayer myself. I guess try and record it somehow and report it to the devs? Getting hit out of nowhere blows and my only advice would be to get Corrosion or slow immunity from scrolls to offset the issue a bit when it does crop up.
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Mar 5, 2021 17:47
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Evil Kit posted:Sounds like it might be a multiplayer latency issue then? I've never seen it though I typically play singleplayer myself. I guess try and record it somehow and report it to the devs? That's what I figured, I never host so I've ascribed a few things to (50ms) latency. Helps me phase through boulders occasioally at least!
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Mar 5, 2021 17:53
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Who knew about this? If you say yes, you're full of poo poo.
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Mar 6, 2021 13:07
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Im_Special posted:Who knew about this? I thought that was common knowledge. I've still to find the chest in the third world jumping puzzle though and am too stubborn to look it up.
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Mar 6, 2021 13:16
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Im_Special posted:Who knew about this? I knew about it. In fact, the first 'secret' area I noticed was on the desert map, and after a few hours of play, I noticed all 'platform' challenges have alternative secret areas. That one is easy to find, eventually your eye catches onto the flame of wall flamethrower in some random run, once you notice it it's clear it's a secret because what would be the point of placing a flamethrower there?
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Mar 6, 2021 13:57
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Im_Special posted:Who knew about this? Guess I need to head to the bathroom after this post because literally first time I went into that vault type I found it, right at the start of early access. The extended wall with a weird gap in the middle and a flamethrower trap instantly made me suspicious. Hands down my favorite vault in Tomb, easy double occult scroll for no effort.
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Mar 7, 2021 02:15
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Well drat, the only "second" scroll I knew about was the desert one, all those missed easy scrolls!!!
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Mar 7, 2021 02:45
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Last update. Rebalance of the last hero, some new routes for maps 2 and 3, weapon upgrades are slightly cheaper.quote:Balance Adjustments for Lei Luo:</b> Oh yeah and the game is 21% off.
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Mar 26, 2021 22:55
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This is a fun game more people should play so it's not just me and Evil Kit
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Mar 29, 2021 00:48
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Yes it is! Problem though. 12 hour work shifts, and when it's not work, I cannot stop playing Streets of Rogue. Ugh.
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