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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010



Lipstick Apathy



gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 23:28 on Aug 23, 2020

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a few DRUNK BONERS
Mar 25, 2016



what is gothic to you op

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010



Nap Ghost

Ytlaya posted:

I did not realize that it was even still legal to kill whatever animal that might be (rhino?). Like, aren't all the possible options there endangered?

Elephant. It is but you have to buy some expensive-rear end license from the country you're hunting in and then pay an outlandish price to actually hunt it at a game farm.

Killing an elephant is disgusting. It's the closest thing I can think of to a sin.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

Brush your teeth.


Zeroisanumber posted:

Elephant. It is but you have to buy some expensive-rear end license from the country you're hunting in and then pay an outlandish price to actually hunt it at a game farm.

Killing an elephant is disgusting. It's the closest thing I can think of to a sin.

It loving well is a sin

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

FEDS FEAR ME




Barry Foster posted:

It loving well is a sin

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

a few DRUNK BONERS posted:

what is gothic to you op
seeing some of the posts... they're a bit too on the nose. you gotta think more subtle, like... themes of loss and decay with some curse under the surface that's animating events. there's wistful nostalgia and fantastic-grotesque elements that are both alluring and repelling at the same time. it's the noise of the void and the emptiness...

it's not just spooky victorian houses, that became a gothic theme because victorianism had become associated with the horror of world war I. a shopping mall from the 1990s could be gothic. i think it emerges when things get out of sequence or there has been a rupture in the space-time continuum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOlffr73fuM#t=206s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ygxhu_3sII

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 00:02 on Aug 24, 2020

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011



Not American but all I could think of when people were bringing up the ascetic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aMvLtBvKAQ

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

more this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSb5rWR_IWA

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

FEDS FEAR ME




BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

seeing some of the posts... they're a bit too on the nose. you gotta think more subtle, like... themes of loss and decay with some curse under the surface that's animating events. there's wistful nostalgia and fantastic-grotesque elements that are both alluring and repelling at the same time. it's the noise of the void and the emptiness...

it's not just spooky victorian houses, that became a gothic theme because victorianism had become associated with the horror of world war I. a shopping mall from the 1990s could be gothic. i think it emerges when things get out of sequence or there has been a rupture in the space-time continuum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOlffr73fuM#t=206s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ygxhu_3sII

is this it coach?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaImyktMkU4

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012



Victory Position posted:

thank you carles buzz and your analysis of the contemporary conformative

i'd like to know more

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

seeing some of the posts... they're a bit too on the nose. you gotta think more subtle, like... themes of loss and decay with some curse under the surface that's animating events. there's wistful nostalgia and fantastic-grotesque elements that are both alluring and repelling at the same time. it's the noise of the void and the emptiness...

my take as an outsider who noticed this poo poo along with my american friends, we arrived at it independently is what i'm saying, over the last couple months:

it is the Uncanny and the Morbid bleeding through the thin fabric of business-as-usual bombast and PR the amerikan powers-that-be are trying to stretch over what is obviously a dying society. it thus creates striking visual images that are unsettling and dreamlike in how vividly they portray a Truth about the death throes of the imperial core that is difficult to articulate in words. therefore particular images and video footage become the stand in for this sense of dread and doom that is difficult to articulate in words. it is not lynchian, though it shares many characteristics with the work of david lynch; but where he posits a secret, grotesque underbelly to an amerikan society that is more or less functional, the new amerikan gothic posits something much more bleak and indeed apocalyptic, for there is no escape here, nobody gets out of this alive, and only the grave awaits.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008

You can't see me at all...



Mark Fisher posted:

“The slow cancellation of the future has been accompanied by a deflation of expectations. There can be few who believe that in the coming year a record as great as, say, the Stooges’ Funhouse or Sly Stone’s There’s A Riot Goin’ On will be released. Still less do we expect the kind of ruptures brought about by The Beatles or disco. The feeling of belatedness, of living after the gold rush, is as omnipresent as it is disavowed. Compare the fallow terrain of the current moment with the fecundity of previous periods and you will quickly be accused of ‘nostalgia’. But the reliance of current artists on styles that were established long ago suggests that the current moment is in the grip of a formal nostalgia, of which more shortly.

It is not that nothing happened in the period when the slow cancellation of the future set in. On the contrary, those thirty years has been a time of massive, traumatic change. In the UK, the election of Margaret Thatcher had brought to an end the uneasy compromises of the so-called postwar social consensus. Thatcher’s neoliberal programme in politics was reinforced by a transnational restructuring of the capitalist economy. The shift into so-called Post-Fordism – with globalization, ubiquitous computerization and the casualisation of labour – resulted in a complete transformation in the way that work and leisure were organised. In the last ten to fifteen years, meanwhile, the internet and mobile telecommunications technology have altered the texture of everyday experience beyond all recognition. Yet, perhaps because of all this, there’s an increasing sense that culture has lost the ability to grasp and articulate the present. Or it could be that, in one very important sense, there is no present to grasp and articulate anymore.”





















Jacques Derrida posted:

“There is today in the world a dominant discourse […] This dominating discourse often has the manic, jubilatory, and incantatory form that Freud assigned to the so-called triumphant phase of mourning work. The incantation repeats and ritualizes itself, it holds forth and holds to formulas, like any animistic magic. To the rhythm of a cadenced march, it proclaims: Marx is dead, communism is dead, very dead, and along with it its hopes, its discourse, its theories, and its practices. It says: long live capitalism, long live the market, here’s to the survival of economic and political liberalism!”

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

there we go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqn9fXzYWoo

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

gh0stpinballa posted:

my take as an outsider who noticed this poo poo along with my american friends, we arrived at it independently is what i'm saying, over the last couple months:

it is the Uncanny and the Morbid bleeding through the thin fabric of business-as-usual bombast and PR the amerikan powers-that-be are trying to stretch over what is obviously a dying society. it thus creates striking visual images that are unsettling and dreamlike in how vividly they portray a Truth about the death throes of the imperial core that is difficult to articulate in words. therefore particular images and video footage become the stand in for this sense of dread and doom that is difficult to articulate in words. it is not lynchian, though it shares many characteristics with the work of david lynch; but where he posits a secret, grotesque underbelly to an amerikan society that is more or less functional, the new amerikan gothic posits something much more bleak and indeed apocalyptic, for there is no escape here, nobody gets out of this alive, and only the grave awaits.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010



if we are to heal as a nation, we will need normalcy. in order to rebuild our neighborhoods, we must rediscover the open dialogues that defined our greatest moments for so many decades as the world looked on in awe. we can restore that order, but it will take all of our faith and even more focus

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.


Fleetwood posted:

if we are to heal as a nation, we will need normalcy. in order to rebuild our neighborhoods, we must rediscover the open dialogues that defined our greatest moments for so many decades as the world looked on in awe. we can restore that order, but it will take all of our faith and even more focus
lmao

fauna
Dec 6, 2018


Caught between two worlds...

steer your way past the ruins
of the altar and the mall
steer your way through the fables
of creation and the fall
steer your way past the palaces
that rise above the rot
year by year
month by month
day by day
thought by thought

Adoomsdaygap
Apr 20, 2013


I don't have the link at hand, but that image of Democratic leaders, most of whom are in their 70s or 80s, wearing Kente cloth and kneeling for like 9 minutes in the Capitol before needing to be helped up and going back to their offices to do absolutely nothing has to be the most perfect encapsulation of American Gothic there is. No image from the entirety of 2020 has made me dissociate more than that one.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here


Adoomsdaygap posted:

I don't have the link at hand, but that image of Democratic leaders, most of whom are in their 70s or 80s, wearing Kente cloth and kneeling for like 9 minutes in the Capitol before needing to be helped up and going back to their offices to do absolutely nothing has to be the most perfect encapsulation of American Gothic there is. No image from the entirety of 2020 has made me dissociate more than that one.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007




The real unease from this one is in video format where they can't even get up from doing this because our geriatric kings bodies are only kept moving from superhealthcare. Spend like 10 seconds being lifted up.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008





Finicums Wake posted:

the pic of donald trump's hands on ivanka's hips is among the most disgusting i've seen

if you look at the pic directly above it, you can see Donald gripping her upper arms

in the pic you're talking about, you can see that he squeezed her so hard he left a heat pattern on those arms

he's vile

God Hole
Mar 2, 2016


Fleetwood posted:

if we are to heal as a nation, we will need normalcy. in order to rebuild our neighborhoods, we must rediscover the open dialogues that defined our greatest moments for so many decades as the world looked on in awe. we can restore that order, but it will take all of our faith and even more focus

whoa mayo pete posts here?

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019



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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

0.000% of Communism has been built.
Evil, child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit eating grin.

All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*.

Instead of building communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.





BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

in contrast to the gothic democrats you have the ghoulish republicans

https://twitter.com/EllenStreiff/status/1297680505949757446

animist
Aug 28, 2018




comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Is a saint not entitled to the skin of his foot?







Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006







Grimey Drawer

I once read a short story where the entire world was engulfed in a permanent, steadily growing grinding noise that ended with the sky cracking and falling apart, revealing machinery where outer space should be. This aesthetic really reminds me of that work, shame I can't remember the title.

Bananaquiter
Aug 20, 2008

Ron's not here.






That Pugsly Adams shirt.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

medio de fonte leporum surgo amariter





post of the thread

this is how it's done, folks

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001


Homeless Friend posted:

The real unease from this one is in video format where they can't even get up from doing this because our geriatric kings bodies are only kept moving from superhealthcare. Spend like 10 seconds being lifted up.

Yeah. That was the perfect moment of the whole thing.

Also: https://vimeo.com/435520174

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Lipstick Apathy

Big Mad Drongo posted:

I once read a short story where the entire world was engulfed in a permanent, steadily growing grinding noise that ended with the sky cracking and falling apart, revealing machinery where outer space should be. This aesthetic really reminds me of that work, shame I can't remember the title.

that sounds like a story I'd like. shame i can't read it lol

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??



i say swears online posted:

post of the thread

this is how it's done, folks

yeah. this is... this will endure.

God Hole
Mar 2, 2016


Bananaquiter posted:



That Pugsly Adams shirt.

Gods_Butthole
Aug 9, 2020




This is the most unsettling one to me for whatever reason.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3LFlWdExvg

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011



Fleetwood posted:

if we are to heal as a nation, we will need normalcy. in order to rebuild our neighborhoods, we must rediscover the open dialogues that defined our greatest moments for so many decades as the world looked on in awe. we can restore that order, but it will take all of our faith and even more focus

Through our great agile synergy, we can change the paradigm of our existence

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001


gh0stpinballa posted:

my take as an outsider who noticed this poo poo along with my american friends, we arrived at it independently is what i'm saying, over the last couple months:

it is the Uncanny and the Morbid bleeding through the thin fabric of business-as-usual bombast and PR the amerikan powers-that-be are trying to stretch over what is obviously a dying society. it thus creates striking visual images that are unsettling and dreamlike in how vividly they portray a Truth about the death throes of the imperial core that is difficult to articulate in words. therefore particular images and video footage become the stand in for this sense of dread and doom that is difficult to articulate in words. it is not lynchian, though it shares many characteristics with the work of david lynch; but where he posits a secret, grotesque underbelly to an amerikan society that is more or less functional, the new amerikan gothic posits something much more bleak and indeed apocalyptic, for there is no escape here, nobody gets out of this alive, and only the grave awaits.

This and the Mark Fisher quote really crystallize it. I think the Biden administration, if it happens, is going to generate some excellent Amerikan Gothic

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

think i'm staying in this labor day...

https://twitter.com/NHTSAgov/status/1295512920567283720

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010



Lipstick Apathy



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