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My king died and he had 2 daughters. The 4 kingdoms got spread evenly between them. My ruler is now 16 years old, her sister is 14. I had a murder plot ready to fire, but I just couldn't do it. I kinda want to see how it goes with her kingdoms, let her expand on her own. Eventually everything will come back. I'm too soft for this game lol.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:50
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shut up blegum posted:My king died and he had 2 daughters. The 4 kingdoms got spread evenly between them. Right there with you. I love playing as an efficient steward. I consolidate and do the least amount of war possible in order to hold what is mine by right. I very very very rarely use murder plots. But now I’m playing as a sadistic deceitful intrigue focused player and it is so against type for how I want to play. Not even sure what to do with intrigue tbh. Having secrets and hooks doesn’t really work when I’m trying to, like, take someone’s kingdom to unite my empire. edit: I did successfully pull off a suicide with my precious character! That was one for the bucket list. It even fit in story as he made his daughter ill in the one murder plot I tried to pull off when I found out I was somehow 2nd in line for the HRE Goddamn is it a prestige hit though
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Oct 29, 2020 23:38
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I kind of wish there were more things to spend prestige (and piety) on. With a decently set up realm, you get a few lean years at the beginning of every generation but then always up with a bajillion useless points.
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Oct 29, 2020 23:49
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shut up blegum posted:My king died and he had 2 daughters. The 4 kingdoms got spread evenly between them. Had something similar happen to me back in ck2. I was in England trying to create the empire of Britannia. The hot young power couple of the Karlings in mainland Europe were both like 18, on top of the world with the wife about to give birth. But she has twin daughters, dies in childbirth, and Papa karling can't handle it and commits suicide a week later splitting their massive realm down the middle with two infant girls to rule each half. They were both in such a dangerous spot that either was willing to accept a normal marriage so I jumped on a betrothal to the western daughter because I felt like the east had more dangerous enemies on their borders and that eastern daughter would have a tougher go of it. I felt like trying to assassinate eastern daughter to have my bride to be inherit everything but I couldn't bring myself to do it. As they grew up, western daughter developed a learning disability and a love of cakes and basically sat in her bedroom trying to fit square pegs in round holes for 16 years. Meanwhile, eastern daughter basically became Joan of Arc, the most badass commander on the planet while fighting off invaders as soon as she was able. I knew Joan was going to be eying her sister's juicy kingdoms as soon as she had a break fighting off her other enemies, but I still couldn't bring myself to move against her because I was so impressed with how she was doing. They both turn 19 or 20 and Joan finally declares war on her sister. It's a pretty hopeless looking situation based on numbers and Joan leading her own army. But before they can rally their army and march west, a religious peasant revolt breaks out over their capital and forces a fight there. Joan gets bonked on the head, is knocked in to a coma, and dies a few weeks later. War over, talentless lazy western sister inherits everything and becomes the most powerful person on earth  Watching things develop like that from the sidelines sometimes is one of my favorite parts of this game
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Oct 30, 2020 00:08
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I refuse to disinherit any of my beautiful boys and girls, elder boy will just have to deal with a smaller demesne
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Oct 30, 2020 00:42
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Just started a new Herbert of Vermandois game, the King of France just converted to Orthodoxy and it's not even 1090 yet.
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Oct 30, 2020 00:53
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Is there a way to generate random males of your culture and religion, as in CK2? I was playing a Rurikid run last night, conquering the various kingdoms and I ran out of males to grant land to. I ended having to grant land to people of other religions and cultures. Outrageous!
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Oct 30, 2020 02:23
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Moreau posted:Is there a way to generate random males of your culture and religion, as in CK2? I was playing a Rurikid run last night, conquering the various kingdoms and I ran out of males to grant land to. I ended having to grant land to people of other religions and cultures. Outrageous! Did you try to press the "search for physician" and "recruit knights" buttons? I'm not completely sure how those work, it's possible it may sometimes generate characters of your faith/culture.
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Oct 30, 2020 02:37
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trapped mouse posted:Did you try to press the "search for physician" and "recruit knights" buttons? I'm not completely sure how those work, it's possible it may sometimes generate characters of your faith/culture. They’re not generated characters but just wanderers that fit. I’ve gotten Muslim knights when I was hispania.
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Oct 30, 2020 02:45
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Yea invite knights is the easiest one, invite claimants is another; they may not be your faith but you can usually just demand they convert. As Rurik in particular you're going to be in a rough spot almost no matter what though, the key is just to concubine it up and create males to had poo poo out to. Personally though I think I've played myself out of this game now. All the insanity around religion, and the AI's complete incompetence at warfare (I have watched my liege suicide his army into fights where he greatly outnumbered like 5 times tonight) is just too much to handle.
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Oct 30, 2020 02:50
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Is there any way to see my feudal structure as a tree like in CK2? Managing my vassals is starting to become a pain, since as far as I can tell the only way to see them all is in an unsortable list in the realm menu.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:45
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PittTheElder posted:Personally though I think I've played myself out of this game now. All the insanity around religion, and the AI's complete incompetence at warfare (I have watched my liege suicide his army into fights where he greatly outnumbered like 5 times tonight) is just too much to handle. I can live with that for the most part, the thing that is really getting me is my dynasty not doing matri-marriages with daughters in the line of succession. I can live with the AI not doing it for random dynasties, but for the player dynasty they should always do matrilineal marriages for any daughters/sisters that can inherit. In the game I'm working on now, I've lost so many random duchies and counties out of my dynasty because the AI never does any by default. We even lost the Catholic Aquitaine kingdom that I won for us in the first Crusade, because the daughter of the beneficiary inherited, and had a normal marriage to a random courtier.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:46
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Fister Roboto posted:Is there any way to see my feudal structure as a tree like in CK2? Managing my vassals is starting to become a pain, since as far as I can tell the only way to see them all is in an unsortable list in the realm menu. There is not, and there really should be. Also they should bring back the map modes that let you see all sub-realms of specific sizes.
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Oct 30, 2020 06:02
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binge crotching posted:I can live with that for the most part, the thing that is really getting me is my dynasty not doing matri-marriages with daughters in the line of succession. I can live with the AI not doing it for random dynasties, but for the player dynasty they should always do matrilineal marriages for any daughters/sisters that can inherit. In the game I'm working on now, I've lost so many random duchies and counties out of my dynasty because the AI never does any by default. We even lost the Catholic Aquitaine kingdom that I won for us in the first Crusade, because the daughter of the beneficiary inherited, and had a normal marriage to a random courtier. Actually, what would make this game even better is a set of dynasty "laws" you can set... Like spend prestige as the dynasty head to prefer matrilineal marriages or alliance marriages, or maybe set a broad lifestyle focus. Something to influence the AI dynasty members to fall in line with your overall goals.
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Oct 30, 2020 10:35
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This is a dumb question but has anyone taken a shot as playing in Socotra? I’d love to play as a Nestorian but looking at that tiny island makes me wonder if it isn’t a one-way ticket to Game Over City
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Oct 30, 2020 12:42
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I do actually see their point regarding AI matrilineal marriages, but I also feel like they should at least provide some pressure on that AI to at least pull a Habsburg with AI female rulers and heiresses, if they aren't going to matrimarry push them to marry someone in their dynasty.
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Oct 30, 2020 12:47
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happyphage posted:This is a dumb question but has anyone taken a shot as playing in Socotra? I’d love to play as a Nestorian but looking at that tiny island makes me wonder if it isn’t a one-way ticket to Game Over City Depends on how quickly you can amass the cash to get off the island. They're not inherently bad from a defensive standpoint since the enemy will have to deal with that disembark penalty on every invasion, but of course, that doesn't protect you from just being ousted in any of a dozen different ways. I had the same worry at the beginning of my current Corsican run, but it's become more of a strength over time it turns out.
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Oct 30, 2020 13:23
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VostokProgram posted:There is not, and there really should be. Also they should bring back the map modes that let you see all sub-realms of specific sizes. Wait huh? You can use realm, duchy, kingdom, empire map modes? You can also control click on a top realm on the map and it will show the constituent realms that make it up. Or are you referring to something different?
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Oct 30, 2020 13:59
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ThatJesus posted:Actually, what would make this game even better is a set of dynasty "laws" you can set... That would be really nice, I agree.
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Oct 30, 2020 17:57
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I just found a powerful duchess from a well-known dynasty who married a lowborn man patrilineally, so all her children and heirs are lowborn. Like, what the hell, why is that even possible lol
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Oct 30, 2020 18:16
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Blimpkin posted:Wait huh? Those are de jure, you used to be able to see the actual borders of each tier ruler. And the double click thing only works for one top level realm at a time, instead of letting you see multiple
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Oct 30, 2020 18:18
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Yeah it can be annoying to have to keep switching between duchy view and reality county-level view when handing out titles. Genghis Khan has just died, leaving the Mongolian empire at roughly half the map. And they're tribal but have high partition. With the stability of large realms, this is never getting meaningfully broken up or challenged. My map just got a whole lot less interesting. I do not understand that design choice. Mid to late game is getting pretty dull. I'm working on founding my university and that's about the only point of interest for me.
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Oct 30, 2020 18:45
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Am working on a “mother of us all run” I picked the “bitches run this poo poo” option near the start and everything was going great. I just reformed the bori faith, and didn’t change the gender preference option. Now all my children inherit instead of just the girls and it’s a loving mess. My current ruler has 2 daughters and 8 sons 😭 Don’t make the same mistake I did!
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Oct 30, 2020 19:08
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VostokProgram posted:There is not, and there really should be. Also they should bring back the map modes that let you see all sub-realms of specific sizes. Well that's annoying. The more I play the more I'm starting to feel like a lot of the UI changes were a step back from CK2. It looks pretty, but the functionality is way down.
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Oct 30, 2020 19:19
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Jaytan posted:Am working on a “mother of us all run” I picked the “bitches run this poo poo” option near the start and everything was going great. I just reformed the bori faith, and didn’t change the gender preference option. Now all my children inherit instead of just the girls and it’s a loving mess. My current ruler has 2 daughters and 8 sons 😭
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Oct 30, 2020 19:53
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Strange things happen on shores of White Sea
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Oct 30, 2020 20:03
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Also with my last game I was trying to get an armored cavalry MaA setup and it's just not great. There's no buildings to boost their stats in the early game, and they are hamstrung by being twice as expensive for half the number of troops, in addition to potential counteraction from pikemen (which are generally ubiquitous). Another insanely weird outcome for such a central feature of the time period.
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Oct 30, 2020 20:24
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A God drat Ghost posted:Yeah it can be annoying to have to keep switching between duchy view and reality county-level view when handing out titles. If I recall the Mongol Empire is supposed to eventually dissolve into several empires via a special scripted event, like the Golden Horde and such. But I think it takes a couple of generations?
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Oct 30, 2020 20:57
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I suck at this game because I keep getting roflstomped by Alba in the mid 950s and can't figure out how to break them up/wait them out. Conceding when I am 5:1 to one army only works so much. Assassinating vassals/leaders doesn't work either.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:03
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Mooseontheloose posted:I suck at this game because I keep getting roflstomped by Alba in the mid 950s and can't figure out how to break them up/wait them out. Conceding when I am 5:1 to one army only works so much. Assassinating vassals/leaders doesn't work either. Prioritize alliances with them?
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Oct 30, 2020 21:14
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Prioritize alliances with them? I was doing ok with that until they hated my new king and couldn't find an heir to marry to them.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:17
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Magil Zeal posted:If I recall the Mongol Empire is supposed to eventually dissolve into several empires via a special scripted event, like the Golden Horde and such. But I think it takes a couple of generations? Every time it happens to me I completely miss it. I just check back on the area later and every trace of the Mongols is just... gone. Although I haven't played since the last patch which apparently made the initial conquest a lot more aggressive, so maybe the successor states will be more viable now.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:05
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Was there consensus on how to end the reign of the pope? He excommunicated me, so I fabricated claims on all his land over the course of a decade and then beat him in a war with a doom stack of 100k troops just annihilating his mercenaries. But now he has the papacy and a kingdom that I cannot usurp despite holding all the land for. He is my vassal though. I want him gone.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:13
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Not without being muslim or norse I believe.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:41
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Dismantling the Papacy is so hard, too. Not even because of the Catholics, I keep finding the Byzantines holding a lot of Italia, and you can only do so many wars per generation against one enemy...
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Oct 31, 2020 03:27
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Red Crown posted:Dismantling the Papacy is so hard, too. Not even because of the Catholics, I keep finding the Byzantines holding a lot of Italia, and you can only do so many wars per generation against one enemy... I have it all! It’s all mine! I just want this fucker ground to dust for daring to excommunicate me
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Oct 31, 2020 04:16
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Magil Zeal posted:If I recall the Mongol Empire is supposed to eventually dissolve into several empires via a special scripted event, like the Golden Horde and such. But I think it takes a couple of generations? Yeah I murdered the Mongolian emperors until that event happened. It's less of a mess now.
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Oct 31, 2020 04:57
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Red Crown posted:Dismantling the Papacy is so hard, too. Not even because of the Catholics, I keep finding the Byzantines holding a lot of Italia, and you can only do so many wars per generation against one enemy... FYI, the truce break penalty doesn't stack, if you don't mind gaming it up...
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Oct 31, 2020 07:26
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Man. Creating your own religion with equal rights between men and women is great. I love finally being able to give my daughters titles. Seriously did not thing my callous intrigue character would be the one to amass so much faith that he created a medieval utopia with gay love and equal rights. Also: being able to pick your chaplain is great. Firing a 3 intellect for a 24 is so rewarding.
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Dwesa posted:Strange things happen on shores of White Sea Idgi this achievement? It's basically 'be an only child for 3 generations'? I feel like I'm missing something.
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