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I don’t really care about being spoiled, I don’t actively seek spoilers but if I’m spoiled it doesn’t bother me like a bunch of other people. Might also be I tend to forget what’s spoiled by the time I see it so YMMV.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I have a coworker and she actively looks up the twists of movies before she decides if she wants to see it. Even without context, she just hears "his brother was actually the one trying to kill the family business to get revenge on his dad for abusing him" and uses that to determine if it is a good movie. She won't go see a movie unless she knows the twist or ending in advance. I mean, I get it to an extent, some people just don't like twists (twist endings in particular), it's just a taste thing, but pre-checking movies for them before watching for every movie does seem a little over the top. Lots of genres use twists, not just stuff like suspense or horror where they're most employed. Like for example, one of the biggest things discussed in this thread this year has been opinions over the Jor-El twist in Superman, and that's a superhero movie, a genre that has been, as people have talked about in this thread for years, notoriously straightforward and spoiled silly in trailers/marketing.
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Oct 7, 2025 17:31
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I have a coworker and she actively looks up the twists of movies before she decides if she wants to see it. Even without context, she just hears "his brother was actually the one trying to kill the family business to get revenge on his dad for abusing him" and uses that to determine if it is a good movie. She won't go see a movie unless she knows the twist or ending in advance. That’s the dumbest loving thing I’ve heard all day. Please tell your coworker that a random person on the internet thinks they’re stupid.
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Oct 7, 2025 18:00
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The internet says you're stupid
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Oct 7, 2025 18:32
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I got to be honest, I kind of get it. I usually don't get too concerned about spoilers and such because I feel like if whatever book or movie or TV show or whatever is dependent on surprising me it makes me wonder how well it would hold up without it. And sometimes when revisiting such media, it does not hold up very well after the one trick has been pulled.
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Oct 7, 2025 18:34
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Sixth Sense or Unbreakable etc are still great once you know the twist but that doesn't mean there's not a different value to a clean watch with no spoilers the first time
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Oct 7, 2025 18:42
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A good movie holds up both with and without the twist being known, with your experience changing on each viewing, and you can appreciate the craft that went into the twist on a second viewing without the emotional impact it had on you in the first viewing being valueless.
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Oct 7, 2025 18:47
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I've never minded spoilers—I didn't start watching The Good Place until someone in the TVIV mentioned the twist late in the first season and I thought, "Okay, I have to watch this show now." Knowing the twist was coming was what actually got me interested in the premise in the first place. When that moment came, it still hit hard because, shockingly, TGP was a good show and was well-written enough that the twist is still a very effective scene even when you know it's coming. If a twist only gets you the first time, it's a sign that the narrative doesn't have enough to hold itself together outside the novelty of the twist. At the same time, sometimes it is more fun to go into a piece of media blind and enjoy the surprises. In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrasts.
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Oct 7, 2025 20:32
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TGP is good either way but I still feel like I'd always rather have both experiences than make one impossible by seeking spoilers especially for a show that good
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Oct 7, 2025 21:09
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Shageletic posted:The internet says you're stupid Believe me I know.
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Oct 7, 2025 21:17
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I have a coworker and she actively looks up the twists of movies before she decides if she wants to see it. Even without context, she just hears "his brother was actually the one trying to kill the family business to get revenge on his dad for abusing him" and uses that to determine if it is a good movie. She won't go see a movie unless she knows the twist or ending in advance. Woman would have a breakdown if she got stuck watching a Twilight Zone marathon without her phone.
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Oct 7, 2025 22:00
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The worst part about Brave New World, and FAWS, is that they never really commit to the Isiah angle. I don't care about a war over vibranium (though the fight over Tiamut was the best part of the movie) or whatever the Leader's plan was, but I did care about Isiah and they sidelined him twice.
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Oct 7, 2025 22:10
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Well Manicured Man posted:I've never minded spoilers—I didn't start watching The Good Place until someone in the TVIV mentioned the twist late in the first season and I thought, "Okay, I have to watch this show now." Knowing the twist was coming was what actually got me interested in the premise in the first place. Back when Cabin in the Woods came out, I decided it was not for me, but I kept hearing about there being some huge twist. So I looked up the twist and realized, "poo poo, I should watch this movie." Same for that Matthew McConaughey movie Serenity, but for the wrong reasons. That one I saved for a bad movie marathon with my friends, who had never heard of it. That was a great time.
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Oct 7, 2025 22:12
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They did a study on "spoilers" once and spoiled some folks about Moby Dick or something and the conclusion was that "spoilers" don't really negatively impact your enjoyment of a piece of media, in fact it seems to slightly enhance it. Some problems here are that it was just one study, and it was about books. It's hard to get this kind of research off the ground, harder than subjects which would be actually unethical to study.
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Oct 7, 2025 22:14
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ImpAtom posted:A good movie holds up both with and without the twist being known, with your experience changing on each viewing, and you can appreciate the craft that went into the twist on a second viewing without the emotional impact it had on you in the first viewing being valueless. And sometimes, the male lead just dies on 9/11 for the hell of it.
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Oct 7, 2025 22:14
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live with fruit posted:The worst part about Brave New World, and FAWS, is that they never really commit to the Isiah angle. I don't care about a war over vibranium (though the fight over Tiamut was the best part of the movie) or whatever the Leader's plan was, but I did care about Isiah and they sidelined him twice.
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Oct 7, 2025 22:21
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FlamingLiberal posted:I mean ultimately The Leader's plan was just to get revenge on Ross for keeping him in prison basically and then going back on his word. It takes awhile to get to the point where we learn that, but everything else is mostly set dressing for the ultimate revenge plot of slowly turning Ross into a Hulk Right, it's ultimately a follow-up to a storyline from the most skippable movie in the Infinity Saga that actually took place after the movie.
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Oct 7, 2025 22:29
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:They did a study on "spoilers" once and spoiled some folks about Moby Dick or something and the conclusion was that "spoilers" don't really negatively impact your enjoyment of a piece of media, in fact it seems to slightly enhance it. It was specifically about mysteries and presented a specifically curated in medias res introduction and even then it wasn't a case of "literally everyone involved enjoyed it more" and plenty of people in the study did not report an increase in enjoyment. It's one of those very annoying things where people bring it up to go "um actually science says spoilers are good' but the actual study boils down to 'in specific circumstances some people gain enjoyment from spoilers presented as a natural part of the story." Which is interesting! It's a genuinely neat thing to consider how a story can be told in a different way, but it was also a single study in a very limited demographic and presented in a specific kind of way ("we integrated the spoilers naturally into the story") and that tends to get overlooked.
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Oct 7, 2025 22:39
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ImpAtom posted:It was specifically about mysteries and presented a specifically curated in medias res introduction and even then it wasn't a case of "literally everyone involved enjoyed it more" and plenty of people in the study did not report an increase in enjoyment. We need to study it more!
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Oct 7, 2025 22:54
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Knowing the Titanic sinks is not the same as a surprise like snape kills Dumbledore and neither is the same as a genuine twist like the 6th sense
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Oct 7, 2025 23:00
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Rubber Chicken posted:Knowing the Titanic sinks Wow way to ruin it for me
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site posted:Wow way to ruin it for me Don't worry, it doesn't effect the show-stopping rapping dog musical number.
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Oct 8, 2025 00:30
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Well poo poo no wonder it was so popular
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Watching the movie a second time knowing the boat sinks at the end changes the whole experience.
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Oct 8, 2025 02:38
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Do streaming thumbnails still spoil Planet of the Apes and From Dusk Til' Dawn? Still fun movies with the spoilers, but c'mon.
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Oct 8, 2025 02:39
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The T-800 face turn and T-000 reveal in Terminator 2 will always be the most baffling spoiler in advertisement to me. I'm translating the Japanese movie program for it for my thread in PMF, and a guest writer in it says he was told by the marketing team not to reveal the twist. Not only was that twist spoiled in the very first trailer for the movie, it's spoiled in the program on the page directly before that guy's article. That twist would have been so good after watching the first film!
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Oct 8, 2025 04:53
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FlamingLiberal posted:I mean ultimately The Leader's plan was just to get revenge on Ross for keeping him in prison basically and then going back on his word. It takes awhile to get to the point where we learn that, but everything else is mostly set dressing for the ultimate revenge plot of slowly turning Ross into a Hulk
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Make it happen Kevin https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1975748102213476723?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA
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site posted:Villain should've been hate monger Elon Musk is already canon in the MCU.
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Moai Ou posted:The T-800 face turn and T-000 reveal in Terminator 2 will always be the most baffling spoiler in advertisement to me. I watch a lot of those YouTube "watching a movie for the first time" reaction videos as background noise and there are three movies that are interesting to see people experience decades after the pop culture/advertising stuff spoiled the plot: - Terminator 2, though you can sometimes see the wheels spinning as they notice that the T-800 is too lenient in the bar compared to the first and how cold the cop comes off. - Truman Show, which very blatantly tells you what it's about in the commercials, is just kind of vague in the beginning and very gradually explains what's up as Truman himself pieces things together. - Sixth Sense. Even though there's the big twist at the end, "I see dead people," is itself a twist, or at least a major reveal. Up until that point, we don't actually know what that kid's deal is. Just that something supernatural is going on and it's freaking him out. That scene in the hospital shifts the movie into the next gear.
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Oct 8, 2025 14:04
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FlamingLiberal posted:Make it happen Kevin I think he deserves better. I think he'd be a great Mastermind.
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Oct 8, 2025 14:07
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Arnold being good this time is the hook, and it’s revealed 15 minutes into the movie. How would you even advertise trying to keep that secret?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Make it happen Kevin Don't hold your breath David, I think we'll see the Inhumans again before the MCU comes within miles of doing anything with Morbius for a looooong time
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Oct 8, 2025 15:07
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live with fruit posted:Arnold being good this time is the hook, and it’s revealed 15 minutes into the movie. How would you even advertise trying to keep that secret? Super easily honestly, there's a lot of scenes of Arnold that can be framed unheroically. Just him unloading on the cops with a gattling gun can at once communicate "this is more action packed" and still leave the implication of him being a villain. Or use the shot of Sarah Connor looking utterly horrified as the door opens. I'd honestly be shocked if there wasn't already some trailer on Youtube that attempts to do exactly that.
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If i was a moviegoer in 1992 and they advertised Terminator 2 like it was the first one i would have left the theater after the first 5 minutes edward furlong was on screen
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I think I was 13ish when it came out, and I'd seen the 1st one, so I was just hyped about 2 Terminators. And did you see that motherfucker? He's like made of Mercury or something. Special effects will never get better than this!
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FlamingLiberal posted:Make it happen Kevin TwoPair posted:Don't hold your breath David, I think we'll see the Inhumans again before the MCU comes within miles of doing anything with Morbius for a looooong time The article says he'd also love to play the Marvel version of Dracula, which I think is a much more likely possibility. Throw him into the next X-Men movie.
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Oct 8, 2025 16:24
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He could honestly be so good as several Marvel villains.
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Would rather use drac in blade or midnight sons than the freaking xmen of all people tbqh
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First the X-Men need to go to Transylvania, then the Savage Land, then outer space. Not a trilogy. One movie.
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