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Re: Captain Marvel, I saw it when just the once when it came out and I completely forgot that Annette Bening was Mar Vell, my brain just filed her as "Kree Annette Bening" and moved on since she was kind of an ancillary supporting character. Still no explicit 'Call me Captain Marvel" or "That is Captain Marvel over there" moment, but what I would very much like to be true is that Fury wrote her up as "Captain Marvel" in all his reports as a way to troll her. She comes back and everyone is like "Ah, yes, Captain Marvel! Fury has told us so much about you" and she just squints at this bad joke he planted like a time bomb 30 years ago.
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May 5, 2021 21:44
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If Steve comes back I want him to always be Old Man Steve, like replace Fury as head of whatever and he’s just the new head honcho, solely because I think it would be funny if they spent a decade digitally aging Chris Evans up 40 years in every appearance.
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May 5, 2021 22:23
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So WB is rumored to be looking for a black director to film a black Superman movie. My thoughts: 1) Boy this sure is WB pretending to be not racist because of the Ray Fisher fiasco huh. 2) I would have more faith in this if there was literally any indication that anyone at WB/DC had any sort of overall plan moving forward for what they want to do with their movies. 3) I will, however, be looking forward to the Snyder fans’ racially-charged tears that they recast Superman away from their favorite white guy.
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May 6, 2021 03:48
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NieR Occomata posted:3) I will, however, be looking forward to the Snyder fans’ racially-charged tears that they recast Superman away from their favorite white guy.
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May 6, 2021 03:51
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That's definitely a weird way of framing that but I have absolutely seen plenty of reactions to the THR story that were literally just "How could WB do this on Henry Cavill's birthday???" Which is just an incredibly childish way of viewing things for several reasons, chief among them being that this was a leak and not a press release. I'm also not quite as cynical about the motivations behind this, mainly because last we heard about this project Ta-Nehisi Coates was attached to write it.
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May 6, 2021 04:00
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I have already seen multiple tweets about this that state that Henry Cavill is the ONLY TRUE Superman and if you don’t think that’s a weird and charged thing to say on top of being literally verifiably untrue for even the most casual of comics fans you aren’t paying attention.
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May 6, 2021 04:04
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Yeah, it's naive thinking that a part of a specific fandom won't erupt in anger at the idea of a POC Superman. On this day it's expected to happen. I'm also a regular internet person who sometimes likes to see drama unfold, so I'll be honest, I'm waiting for the day MCU snatches Henry. Twitter is going to burn. Arist posted:I'm also not quite as cynical about the motivations behind this, mainly because last we heard about this project Ta-Nehisi Coates was attached to write it. Feels like they are going full with the indy-esque/multiverse thing for their movies.
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May 6, 2021 04:15
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Fear of a Black Planet Krypton
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May 6, 2021 04:19
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I'm just kind of here thinking it's hosed up someone is going "heh, can't wait for those Snyder Boys to lost on FREEP whining about the BLACL SUPERMAN *that I totally think is bunk anyway*" But perhaps I'm in the wrong thread
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May 6, 2021 04:26
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Hopefully Nubia is in the movie too.
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May 6, 2021 04:51
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Fisher did a tweet calling out the news and there's a few responses to that saying how there "shouldn't be a black Superman" and marked with the RestoretheSnyderverse tag in a way that assumes Fisher would agree with them and ooof that is NOT his point. It is a very small proportion of the whole though.
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May 6, 2021 05:59
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Didnt they make black superman with that Will Smith movie? Though I vaguely remember it ended with Will Smith being an angel or something 
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May 6, 2021 06:36
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WB made up a fake Frosty the snowman movie starring Momoa to divert attention away from Ray Fishers allegations. Momoa litterally called them out on it. WB deserves no benefit of doubt that they are doing the same thing by announcing a black superman.
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May 6, 2021 06:43
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Collapsing Farts posted:Didnt they make black superman with that Will Smith movie? Though I vaguely remember it ended with Will Smith being an angel or something Hancock Also, gently caress, just make a Mr. Terrific movie, he would make a super cool movie.
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May 6, 2021 08:01
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Anora posted:Hancock goddamn was the first half of hancock so good
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May 6, 2021 10:05
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NieR Occomata posted:3) I will, however, be looking forward to the Snyder fans’ racially-charged tears that they recast Superman away from their favorite white guy. jesus christ
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May 6, 2021 11:49
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Reckon Andrew Garfield must be an honest person because he's a bad liar https://twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1389578826640941061?s=19
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May 6, 2021 11:53
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What’s the big deal of a Black Superman? Last I checked Black Superman has been a thing in the comics for a long while now and he’s also the President of the United States? Or is this a black Kal-El? Which I guess would also not be a big deal? I guess I can imagine people being mad because Marvel absolutely poisoned the well of making separate films about a comic universe so the idea of ditching Cavill, who is pretty good as Superman, would irk some people because he’s still around. Cinematic universes were a mistake EDIT: looked it up. Calvin Ellis, Black Superman, has been around since 2009! Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 12:15 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 12:13
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Karloff posted:Fisher did a tweet calling out the news and there's a few responses to that saying how there "shouldn't be a black Superman" and marked with the RestoretheSnyderverse tag in a way that assumes Fisher would agree with them and ooof that is NOT his point. It is a very small proportion of the whole though. Some people have been using their supposed love of Snyder's movies to poorly disguise their hatred of minorities for close to a decade now. Them using the "Snyderverse" to attack the black Superman is business as usual. Happy Noodle Boy posted:Cinematic universes were a mistake That's not why they're mad.
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May 6, 2021 12:31
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NieR Occomata posted:3) I will, however, be looking forward to the Snyder fans’ racially-charged tears that they recast Superman away from their favorite white guy. There are racist pieces of trash in every fandom. It's not something endemic to Zack Snyder's fanbase, so please don't post incendiary stuff like this.
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May 6, 2021 13:05
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:What’s the big deal of a Black Superman? Last I checked Black Superman has been a thing in the comics for a long while now and he’s also the President of the United States? Hello, friend have you heard of a thing called "racism"?
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May 6, 2021 13:31
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Soonmot posted:goddamn was the first half of hancock so good
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May 6, 2021 14:32
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It's not going to be a DCEU movie btw.
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May 6, 2021 14:56
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I hope they do a Black Superman and then a Black Batman and on until the entire DCEU is Black. Except Green Arrow. He's Yt: The Last Man.
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May 6, 2021 15:17
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:What’s the big deal of a Black Superman? Last I checked Black Superman has been a thing in the comics for a long while now and he’s also the President of the United States? I think if you go back, there was a black Superman even further before this. https://superman.fandom.com/wiki/Calvin_Ellis The Wiki mentions stories of a black Superman in 1999 and again in 1990. But I'm half convinced that there was another instance of a black Superman in the 80's or 70's. Personally I'm hoping if they do decide to make a black Superman that they cast Willam Jackson Harper. He really has "a Christopher Reeves in his prime" look to him.
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May 6, 2021 15:40
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The Question IRL posted:I think if you go back, there was a black Superman even further before this. Sunshine Superman appears in the last arc of G-Mo's Animal Man and that's the oldest version anyone can find. There was that really poorly thought out Kryptonian continent that was "populated by blacks" or whatever soft racism they used back then but I don't think any of them put on the S.
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May 6, 2021 15:51
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What's the criteria for "black Superman"? Would Steel count? Not a Kryptonian but he took the iconography when filling the Superman-shaped hole Doomsday left.
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May 6, 2021 16:26
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Bruceski posted:What's the criteria for "black Superman"? Would Steel count? Not a Kryptonian but he took the iconography when filling the Superman-shaped hole Doomsday left. He should count but he never took the name and always insisted he wasn't Superman unlike the other three.
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May 6, 2021 16:31
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Rhyno posted:He should count but he never took the name and always insisted he wasn't Superman unlike the other three. Which if I remember right made Lois think "okay, this guy's DEFINITELY the real deal."
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May 6, 2021 17:00
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Bruceski posted:Which if I remember right made Lois think "okay, this guy's DEFINITELY the real deal." Did she? I think the psychic lady told her Steel might have Supermans soul but I dont remember Loia taking it seriously.
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May 6, 2021 17:03
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Maybe I misread some sarcasm as straight. I haven't read any of them since they came out and my access was spotty at the time.
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May 6, 2021 17:08
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Keep seeing people say that they should use one of the two black Superman characters that no one has ever heard of instead of racebending Kal-El for this. While I kind of get where that's coming from (at least the stuff that's not just transparently trying to #RestoreTheSnyderVerse), I feel like there's a lot more potential in the story as a commentary on Superman if it's Clark motherfucking Kent--as long as that's what they're going for, and I hope they are, like the Isaiah Bradley stuff in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, which I really liked. Maybe this will stick the landing better than that series did.
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I think there's a difference between a black Superman and making The Superman black. Even most racists are probably not very enraged that on earth 29502912 there happens to be a Superman who is black. Making a movie called Superman, about the actual Superman, no asterisk, starring a black man, is an entirely different thing than having a black guy who is "the other Superman". Also you know, Steel couldn't ever do anything remotely close to some of Superman's most absurd feats. Regardless of his popularity he was clearly in the B tier of power.
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May 6, 2021 17:10
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C or D level really. His original armor was pretty weak.
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May 6, 2021 17:19
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As long as it isn't president superman.
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May 6, 2021 17:49
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Bruceski posted:Which if I remember right made Lois think "okay, this guy's DEFINITELY the real deal." Its been forever since I read it but I remember that as more like "this guy is a real deal ideal of Superman" compared to the obnoxious teenager seeking fame, the murdering computer program, and the supervillain in disguise.
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May 6, 2021 20:11
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We are well overdue for another Steel film, though. Hopefully a good one this time.
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May 6, 2021 20:43
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Lurdiak posted:I think there's a difference between a black Superman and making The Superman black. Even most racists are probably not very enraged that on earth 29502912 there happens to be a Superman who is black. Making a movie called Superman, about the actual Superman, no asterisk, starring a black man, is an entirely different thing than having a black guy who is "the other Superman". Definitely, I brought him up as an addition to the "black Superman isn't a new thing" conversation, not saying "we have black Superman at home" (is that how the meme goes? Kids these days...) Despite his first full shot in the suit being burned into my head and what I want to be when I grow up.
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STAC Goat posted:Its been forever since I read it but I remember that as more like "this guy is a real deal ideal of Superman" compared to the obnoxious teenager seeking fame, the murdering computer program, and the supervillain in disguise. The Cyborg, though, seemed like the best candidate and had there been just a smidgen less Terminator in the design probably would have clenched it easily. He has a great scene where he talks about fragments of memory (like fields in Kansas) that are too jumbled, in the rain, with Lois. Steel was more like "this guy has the ethos and heroics down pat". Black Superman Kal El would be sweet. Black Batman Bruce Wayne could probably do real interesting things about class not shielding race, though the 2000s Supreme Power covered some of it.
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