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Parkingtigers posted:A speedster is never going to work in a live action movie as anything other than a supporting character. I think it's impossible to do, the same way I don't think they ever could make a compelling Hulk solo movie. Some superheroes are good at rounding out a universe but are just uncompelling when pushed front and centre. There are like 8 seasons of a Flash TV show.
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I do think there’s a practical reason why Flash’s villains are so regularly speedsters who he can fight at the same speed. Or that most of his stories are a lot of build and mystery and drama to a fairly lackluster finale (or a team up with other heroes). I do agree that it’s hard to do a lot with a speedster when their powers are being fast enough no one else is moving and not some kind of fighting or whatever. But you can still build a good story with a speedster. It may not deliver the same things other hero stories do but there’s room. Just gotta do it right. And not cast a cult leader.
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Super Dan posted:There are like 8 seasons of a Flash TV show. And in every one of them he has to be reminded his power is to be fast.
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Sep 19, 2022 19:29
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https://twitter.com/Anerdsays/status/1542840384166006784https://twitter.com/Sela_Say/status/1426642318065549312https://twitter.com/Mr_mansuuR/status/1464107444649570305
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Sep 19, 2022 19:49
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Yeah it sucks, but also The Flash was never good.
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Sep 19, 2022 19:52
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What is going on with the Flash TV show? Does everyone have super speed powers? And why are there people with full-body white khaki uniforms throwing lightning bolts?
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Sep 19, 2022 19:56
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If I recall the Godspeed plot in the comics had everyone get flash powers for a while. Then a bunch of people got killed and or lost their powers and Godspeed did evil flash stuff.
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Sep 19, 2022 20:06
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I'll see if i can find a clip but in the new cyberpunk anime there a scene where it goes in slowmo to do all the super speed stuff and it plays out all the way, but then it cuts backwards and you see the whole thing from a third party's perspective and it all happens in like 2 second it's pretty neat. dunno how you could sustain that for a whole movie but it works
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Sep 19, 2022 20:13
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What is going on with the Flash TV show? Does everyone have super speed powers? And why are there people with full-body white khaki uniforms throwing lightning bolts? That scene is specifically gathering all the Speedsters (most are from the future) to fight a future incursion of mass produced Godspeeds.
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Sep 19, 2022 20:23
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MacheteZombie posted:Her last update was about how she worked with a lawyer a ton to make sure it falls under parody fair use, but we all know which side courts tend to fall on. ...The side of parody fair-use? Like there's a reason it even exists as a thing.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What is going on with the Flash TV show? Does everyone have super speed powers? And why are there people with full-body white khaki uniforms throwing lightning bolts? Hoo boy. I'll try and recap where we are as of the end of the previous season, but I'll have to go back probably two seasons The Flash is powered by the Speed Force, which takes on the appearance of Barry's dead mom, Nora (not to be confused with his future daughter, Nora, nor Mr. Freeze's suspended animation wife, Nora) At some point Flash get's infected with Mega Depression and ends up killing the speed force out of grief. Or she sacrifices herself to save him. IDK But it's a comic book show so they undo that somehow But being dead makes the Speed Force (which is not just a force of nature as the name implies, but a persona with hopes and wants) kind of crazy and evil so it goes "bad" At the same time, we are introduced to the Slow Force, Strength Force and Mind Force, who are all minor villains, similarly personified. At the end of that story line, those three forces team up with Flash against Speed Force to convince her to not be so drat evil. Then, there was a 5-6 part crossover to open this latest season where Reverse Flash went back in time loving with Flash, making him go crazy, and eventually swapping lives/places with Barry. Iris did something, which de-powered Reverse Flash, but also gave her a vague Time Sickness, causing her to phase and in out of this dimension. Blah, blah, blah, it was actually caused by evil versions of the above forces, that split off from the good versions. They (the bad forces) combine their powers to re-power a recently de-powered Reverse Flash. Yadda yadda, the good forces Care Bear Stare Barry so he's "leveled up" and powerful enough to stop Reverse Flash once and for all. Everyone having superspeed was the end of a prior season where Godspeed splits off into multiple copies, which group up into two warring factions because some McGuffin is going to grant someone Godhood. That's why all the guys in white jumpsuits are fighting each other. So there we get a team up of Flash, Jay Garrick, Excess (Future Daughter Nora), Impulse (Future Son Bart), Iris (who doesn't normally get superspeed, but it's happened at least twice), and Speed Force/Nora in the third clip. Oh and the long haired woman? She's a meta, who mimics the powers of other metas, but she doesn't know that yet.
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CzarChasm posted:At some point Flash get's infected with Mega Depression and ends up killing the speed force out of grief. Or she sacrifices herself to save him. IDK
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site posted:I'll see if i can find a clip but in the new cyberpunk anime there a scene where it goes in slowmo to do all the super speed stuff and it plays out all the way, but then it cuts backwards and you see the whole thing from a third party's perspective and it all happens in like 2 second it's pretty neat. Yeah that's kind of how they handled the Quicksilver scenes in the X-Men movies, which were really good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9GFyZ5LREQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnZqB5Z75zI Literally the only good part of Apocalypse.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:19
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site posted:I'll see if i can find a clip but in the new cyberpunk anime there a scene where it goes in slowmo to do all the super speed stuff and it plays out all the way, but then it cuts backwards and you see the whole thing from a third party's perspective and it all happens in like 2 second it's pretty neat.
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I love posts that goes "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THESE 2 MINUTES OF TELEVISION????" posts and the answer is: the 100+ episodes of television around it? Also, Power Rangers and tokusatsu rule. A lot of the CW is a much more soapier take on that type of tv and it's entirely appropriate! It can be silly and corny, but it's also good fun! Not everything needs to be a prestige drama!
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What is going on with the Flash TV show? Does everyone have super speed powers? And why are there people with full-body white khaki uniforms throwing lightning bolts?   Medullah posted:Literally the only good part of Apocalypse.
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That poo poo looks really bad to me lmao
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Did Geoff Johns write that?
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I still say Makkari in Eternals had a great way to show off super speed. The fight against Ikaris was pretty good.
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Medullah posted:stuff yeah the quicksilver scenes were great. putting up what i was talking about before i forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va-2iDT3hGI (sa needs to learn to parse imgur videos) site fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Sep 19, 2022 22:25
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Opopanax posted:For all its flaws, Man of Steel had probably the best super speed fighting. The X-men movies also showed how they can be fun set pieces For all its flaws, Eternals beats both of those for absolute best super speed fighting. Makkari gets a minute where she's going fast enough to be "oh holy poo poo" levels of power, but still slow enough that the viewer can parse the action in amongst regular speed dudes. I defy even the most "that movie sucks" viewer to deny how great that scene is. I do dig the X-Men scenes, but it's a universe breaking gimmick that requires them putting the character on a bus so the rest of the film can happen without them solving everything.
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The X-Men scenes also rely on them showing the fast character be fast by... slowing them down. It's fun, but it gets old quick and you lose the sense of actual speed.
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Codependent Poster posted:I still say Makkari in Eternals had a great way to show off super speed. The fight against Ikaris was pretty good.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes too bad she's in the movie for maybe 10 minutes total Makkari is actually a really well done version of super speed, but it is even less than 10 minutes. I found a supercut of every time she used her power and it is 3 minutes and 27 seconds long, lol.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes too bad she's in the movie for maybe 10 minutes total she's very fast
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Goldmine please.
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site posted:yeah the quicksilver scenes were great. putting up what i was talking about before i forget code:https://i.imgur.com/PAuQ7Rq.mp4 Assepoester fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Sep 20, 2022 |
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I watched the first few seasons of The Flash, I do not recall it looking that bad. How did it get worse? I don't understand.
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Joe Fisto posted:I watched the first few seasons of The Flash, I do not recall it looking that bad. How did it get worse? I don't understand. Budgets go down and salaries go up the longer a show is on, gotta cut something
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I think why a lot of people think a speedster can't do a movie is because for years they've seen certain moments in comics/TV/movies where a speedster does something absolutely batshit and it's like "well okay if the Flash can go so fast he can reverse time literally nothing outside of another speedster should ever threaten him again". But those are just individual moments. I'm sure an actual good writer(s) can make a decent movie centering around a speedster if it's actually about them and not just trying to write around the last greatest feat on screen. Yannick_B posted:I love posts that goes "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THESE 2 MINUTES OF TELEVISION????" posts and the answer is: This guy gets it... that said yes Flash has sucked since season 2.
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F.D. Signifier posted:SA can parse imgur videos, you just need to paste the url to the video itself like such: well, good to know but also i really wish the video tag worked because I'm totally gonna forget that
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wait I really need someone to explain how speed…(?)sabers work
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Big Mean Jerk posted:wait I really need someone to explain how speed…(?)sabers work It came out of nowhere in the episode where it happened so there isn't a good explanation other than the writers were getting bored with doing the same old thing and decided to change it up for a season finale.
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"Speed force" has been DC's version of "a wizard did it" for well over a decade
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Opopanax posted:"Speed force" has been DC's version of "a wizard did it" for well over a decade 
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oh man I totally forgot about those things I loved them.
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Futurama did super speed the best. So good in fact that X-Men/Quicksilver ripped it off
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Big Mean Jerk posted:wait I really need someone to explain how speed…(?)sabers work 
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Opopanax posted:"Speed force" has been DC's version of "a wizard did it" for well over a decade Doesn't Barry use it to wipe Godspeed's mind at the end of that season? Somehow?
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muscles like this! posted:It came out of nowhere in the episode where it happened so there isn't a good explanation other than the writers were getting bored with doing the same old thing and decided to change it up for a season finale. They should have made speed force Tron bikes so they don't have to run around all the time like chumps.
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