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All of you are my posting friends. Except for one. You know who you are.
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Patrick Spens posted:I don't have an opinion on Moon Slayer but shittalking AA in a forum he's forbidden from responding in is lame and people should stop it. Well he can choose to respond if he thinks its truly worth the $10 to word vomit all over threads and forums that have consistently told him to shut the gently caress up about his persecution complex. In fact, getting banned would give him more proof of this mod vendetta against him since it's not like facts or logic are anything he cares about.
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Captain Hygiene posted:All of you are my posting friends. Except for one. You know who you are. t 
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Patrick Spens posted:I don't have an opinion on Moon Slayer but shittalking AA in a forum he's forbidden from responding in is lame and people should stop it. It's lame that he can't respond here and melt down again like a big dweeb
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Sep 20, 2020 01:38
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It really seems that in the last few years an extremely vocal minority of posters has formed who don't like mods as people or as a concept. Who think that the Forums don't need mods, that the Forums shouldn't have any mods, and that having mods makes the Forums worse. Maybe I'm being Poe's Law-ed here but people seem to genuinely be lumping mods in with cops as just universally bad, no question. People who said "hey maybe you're making too big a deal of this" were called "cop lovers," "bootlickers," and "authoritarian types." Now I personally think that throwing those accusations around is on par with calling someone a pedophile: it's serious and not something you can just say without consequences for someone. I want it to fall under the same general rule as accusing another poster of being a pedophile or alt-right, i.e. you'd better have proof and not just saying it because you disagree. We're discussing it going forward. I don't know. Maybe it's just the times we live in. It's still pretty disheartening to think that someone out there genuinely believes that me, a volunteer subforum moderator on a once-famous, now obscure internet comedy forum is a figure of authoritarianism and ethnonationalism. I just want people to not have slapfights, not poo poo threads up with low-content posts, and to have a good time. On the other hand though: Absurd Alhazred posted:Moon Slayer, take a look at the people defending you and ask yourself how this reflects on you that this is the quality of friends you're making. Pick posted:Moon Slayer is one of the most stable and reliable mods with a great community, which Pastry of the Year helps with too. PYF is easily and consistently one of the best subforums with the most positive atmosphere. I guess I'm not doing that bad after all.
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Moon Slayer posted:It really seems that in the last few years an extremely vocal minority of posters has formed who don't like mods as people or as a concept. Who think that the Forums don't need mods, that the Forums shouldn't have any mods, and that having mods makes the Forums worse. Maybe I'm being Poe's Law-ed here but people seem to genuinely be lumping mods in with cops as just universally bad, no question. People who said "hey maybe you're making too big a deal of this" were called "cop lovers," "bootlickers," and "authoritarian types." 
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Sep 20, 2020 01:50
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people mostly just like complaining about mods because it's low stakes but makes them feel powerful and insightful
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Sep 20, 2020 01:56
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the anti-mod as a concept thing is weird because we don't lack for proof of concept for what happens to unmoderated internat spaces. on this very forum even!
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Moon Slayer posted:It really seems that in the last few years an extremely vocal minority of posters has formed who don't like mods as people or as a concept. Who think that the Forums don't need mods, that the Forums shouldn't have any mods, and that having mods makes the Forums worse. Maybe I'm being Poe's Law-ed here but people seem to genuinely be lumping mods in with cops as just universally bad, no question. People who said "hey maybe you're making too big a deal of this" were called "cop lovers," "bootlickers," and "authoritarian types." stop jerking off to yourself lol
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Sep 20, 2020 02:01
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Sep 20, 2020 02:04
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to be fair every time the mods start looking respectable again we get an attempted forum coup
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Sep 20, 2020 02:08
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Deeply anti-moderation people can go to the moderation-free refuse pile founded by people who got permabanned from SA in 2004. I believe their address is www dot 4chan dot org.
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Sep 20, 2020 02:11
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luxury handset posted:people mostly just like complaining about mods because it's low stakes but makes them feel powerful and insightful
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Sep 20, 2020 02:22
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i highly doubt this is one of SA's greatest sagas. maybe one of SA's most mediocre sagas
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Sep 20, 2020 02:23
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Moon Slayer posted:never 
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scary ghost dog posted:stop jerking off to yourself lol  never
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zakharov posted:the anti-mod as a concept thing is weird because we don't lack for proof of concept for what happens to unmoderated internat spaces. on this very forum even! I agree I like when we as a community work together and cooperate to make this place better and I think it kind of sucks when someone shows up all "gently caress you I wont do what you tell me". Shifty Nipples has a new favorite as of 02:37 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Sep 20, 2020 02:31
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Moon Slayer posted:It really seems that in the last few years an extremely vocal minority of posters has formed who don't like mods as people or as a concept. Who think that the Forums don't need mods, that the Forums shouldn't have any mods, and that having mods makes the Forums worse. Maybe I'm being Poe's Law-ed here but people seem to genuinely be lumping mods in with cops as just universally bad, no question. People who said "hey maybe you're making too big a deal of this" were called "cop lovers," "bootlickers," and "authoritarian types." You are 100% correct on this. It's pretty bonkers because... zakharov posted:the anti-mod as a concept thing is weird because we don't lack for proof of concept for what happens to unmoderated internat spaces. on this very forum even! This.
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The only time I've ever held a "mods are cops" position is when some C-SPAM moderator decides that it's a good idea to probate people for cheering on counter-police violence in response to police officers gunning down minorities. That is some cop poo poo.
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Sep 20, 2020 02:40
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Puppy Galaxy posted:I’m lolling at the horror hog guy being banned for posting “my horror hog” over and over, I know, old news, but  This had me cracking up all day at work, some dingus-shaped tulpa that loves spooky like a normal wang loves sexy
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e-dt posted:i highly doubt this is one of SA's greatest sagas. maybe one of SA's most mediocre sagas Great meaning large or intense We use it in the melting-down sense
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Spinz posted:Moon Slayer has a thin skin and is probe heavy. As an outsider to pyf it's obvious they are ambitious (lol) and are attempting to change this forum to something edgier. It's too bad they weren't made a mod of one of the fyad-lites. Imagine looking in the mirror and seeing this guy looking back at you, lol
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Sep 20, 2020 02:48
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imo one sad but really common thing I see on the forums is people saying things like "as an outsider to PYF". Like, you're an insider! You paid ten dollars to be an insider! Just because you don't regularly post in a subforum doesn't mean you're on the outside of some clique that's guarding the gates and vigilantly judging outsiders whenever you venture out of your comfort zone.
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vyelkin posted:imo one sad but really common thing I see on the forums is people saying things like "as an outsider to PYF". Like, you're an insider! You paid ten dollars to be an insider! Just because you don't regularly post in a subforum doesn't mean you're on the outside of some clique that's guarding the gates and vigilantly judging outsiders whenever you venture out of your comfort zone. I read this four times over trying to grok your meaning, and I still have no idea whether you are being sarcastic or not. This is a powerful post and I love it.
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Moon Slayer posted:people seem to genuinely be lumping mods in with cops Aatrek was never a cop
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Sep 20, 2020 03:17
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Yes, Aatrek hurt children, not dogs
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vyelkin posted:imo one sad but really common thing I see on the forums is people saying things like "as an outsider to PYF". Like, you're an insider! You paid ten dollars to be an insider! Just because you don't regularly post in a subforum doesn't mean you're on the outside of some clique that's guarding the gates and vigilantly judging outsiders whenever you venture out of your comfort zone. The byob spaceship is a good example, everyone can be a friend in byob all you have to do is 
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RobrtDwnsySyndrome posted:I read this four times over trying to grok your meaning, and I still have no idea whether you are being sarcastic or not. This is a powerful post and I love it. He isn't being sarcastic. Half the dumb drama poo poo is people being incapable of understanding that CSPAM/D&D/FYAD/Pet Island isn't some monolithic bloc of posters whose identity is defined by antagonizing all other subforums for the glory of their home subforum. Like, it's insane to them to imagine someone would shoot the poo poo with their buds in one of the fyad lites while also posting sincerely about cool video games and cute cat pics. You didn't pledge fealty to PYF when you paid $10 to shitpost here.
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Sep 20, 2020 04:02
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As anyone could have predicted the "probate people who keep threatening suicide, give them PMs and tell them to get help" has been interpreted by parts of cspam to be the equivalent of loading the gun and putting it into their hand. The next 2 months are going to be loving exhausting for the mods.
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Jeff's right to probate people who are claiming the mods are complicit if someone offs themselves. That's an absurd and disgusting standard. No one should post here if they're in a mentally vulnerable state. It is NOT a comforting community for someone in that place. Get a therapist, or call the suicide helpline or whatever, but don't look to EVE Online players
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Sep 20, 2020 04:04
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Pick posted:don't look to EVE Online players Solid advice I have hewn to all my life
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E: All the slurs feel icky Just imagine I posted the permabanned poster meme
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Moon Slayer posted:It really seems that in the last few years an extremely vocal minority of posters has formed who don't like mods as people or as a concept.......people seem to genuinely be lumping mods in with cops as just universally bad, no question. People who said "hey maybe you're making too big a deal of this" were called "cop lovers," "bootlickers," and "authoritarian types." Moon Slayer, this attitude has been part of SA since the beginning(although it lightened up for awhile after GBS 2.0 turned the forum into the conversational equivalent of poo poo-throwing chimps). Mods are almost universally shat on until someone that somebody else doesn’t like breaks a rule, then it’s MODS PLZ HELP ME. It sucks hard, because, for the most part, they do a pretty good job for the vast majority of the time. Try not to let it get you down.
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If people are unironically complaining about the ban+plat approach to suicidal posts then they deserve to get long probes themselves. The matter has been thoroughly discussed and the current solution is probably the best possible way to deal with it. The knee-jerk anti-mod people should probably be eating probes anyway.
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zakharov posted:the anti-mod as a concept thing is weird because we don't lack for proof of concept for what happens to unmoderated internat spaces. on this very forum even! Some of it is just shitheads, but given the current leanings of the forum, some is almost certainly anarchists who are ideologically opposed to hierarchies, and feel anybody enforcing a hierarchy is a cop. If their ideal (such as an unmodded forum) having publicly, blatantly, failed many times in the past would be the sort of thing to stop them, well, they wouldn't be anarchists.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:If people are unironically complaining about the ban+plat approach to suicidal posts then they deserve to get long probes themselves. The matter has been thoroughly discussed and the current solution is probably the best possible way to deal with it. The knee-jerk anti-mod people should probably be eating probes anyway. The idea that making sure someone is allowed to continue to post in cspam much less on a web forum in general when repeatedly talking about suicide is some real broke brain "we are the real heroes" mentality. Likely no one posting on SA is qualified to talk to someone repeatedly expressing suicidal ideation and if they are then they absolutely should not be talking to them over forum posts and PMs unless its to tell them to get professional help from outside SA.
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Sep 20, 2020 05:20
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I demand that everything I don't like be banned from discussion on this forum. I'm entitled to this because I spent the equivalent of a McDonald's value meal to post here.
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Sep 20, 2020 05:26
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Solice Kirsk posted:I demand that everything I don't like be banned from discussion on this forum. I'm entitled to this because I spent the equivalent of a McDonald's value meal to post here. richie rich over here trying to flex on the rest of us because they can afford get the large double quarter pounder combo.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I demand that everything I don't like be banned from discussion on this forum. I'm entitled to this because I spent the equivalent of a McDonald's value meal to post here. sir this is a Wendy's drive through
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