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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013

HAIL SATAN



Boba Pearl posted:

The unwanted touching in this case was a woman who said Biden had penetrated her with his fingers.

And then later she was probated again for saying that it wasn't sexual assault

That quote doesn't support your assertion, but

Mx. posted:

People are weird about Pick

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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012



CaptainSarcastic posted:

That quote doesn't support your assertion, but

Please can we not loving litigate those gross posts again, it's not a good time for anyone, she's gone and there's no need to defend her at this point

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense






some plague rats posted:

it's not a good time for anyone

I’m fine

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 26 days!


Upset Trowel

Was that person just lying about pick they never posted the quote

Tjadeth
Sep 16, 2012

Cat Army
2nd Battalion
VOLUNTEER


Snowy posted:

I spend way too much time reading these forums and still have no idea how people are able to keep track of the drama

sometimes it's better that way. for instance, I did not realize "my wheelhouse" was a user name, which made for interesting reading in the cyrano thread

HolePisser1982 posted:

Seems like a good place to ask wtf is up with the admins un-perma’ing the obsessive creep + cartoon child porn guy (my wheelhouse) who everyone loving hates.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense






Tjadeth posted:

sometimes it's better that way. for instance, I did not realize "my wheelhouse" was a user name, which made for interesting reading in the cyrano thread

Haha holy poo poo I would have read it the same way

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014






That's it, I was on the fence, but now I'm cancelling Pick.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

I just couldn't look at your old avatar anymore
Fucking nauseating!


Paladinus posted:

That's it, I was on the fence, but now I'm cancelling Pick.

woah let's not say anything that might have consequneces

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

YOU'RE WELCOME

Tjadeth posted:

sometimes it's better that way. for instance, I did not realize "my wheelhouse" was a user name, which made for interesting reading in the cyrano thread

Glad it's not just me, I was super confused why someone was bragging about being creepy and animated CP being in their wheel house and mad that another user had horned in on their gig. I figured it was them applying for Cyranos spot until I got a few more pages in.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

MEAN MUGGIN'




Wow a dramatic exit who gives a poo poo

Let's remember an all time great post

https://twitter.com/Goons_TXT/status/553204687751892992?s=19

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011






The first joose thread should have been capped off by just goldmining the subforum

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010

So pat yourself on the back and give yourself a handshake
'Cause everything is not yet lost




Pillbug

Hot Diggity! posted:

Wow a dramatic exit who gives a poo poo

Let's remember an all time great post

https://twitter.com/Goons_TXT/status/553204687751892992?s=19

That one was actually an erowid or blue light poster on synthetic cannabinoids.

Varinn
May 3, 2005



Ugly In The Morning posted:

That one was actually an erowid or blue light poster on synthetic cannabinoids.

no that was 100% the joose thread

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3230894 im not reading all 55 pages but its somewhere in here

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010

So pat yourself on the back and give yourself a handshake
'Cause everything is not yet lost




Pillbug

Varinn posted:

no that was 100% the joose thread

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3230894 im not reading all 55 pages but its somewhere in here

Nope.

https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/new-cannabinoid-mmb-chminaca.735246/ It's on page 2.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006
I ran crying to the mods because someone bought me a title with naughty words in it. (twice!)
I am the world's softest bitch and you you should remind me of it forever. If this text is gone it's because I couldn't handle being a fucking loser.


Smellrose

Kazinsal posted:

The first joose thread should have been capped off by just goldmining the subforum

TCC unironically convinced me not to do drugs.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised




Vincent Van Goatse posted:

TCC unironically convinced me not to do drugs.

I've said before that TCC is better than DARE ever wishes it was.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009



Fun Shoe

Marcade posted:

Pick and Choose...goddammit why did I only now "get" that.

I misread the alt as Cheese, this makes a lot more sense now

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011






Ghost Leviathan posted:

I've said before that TCC is better than DARE ever wishes it was.

Harm reduction by convincing tens of thousands of goons to never do anything harder than jack daniels and weed

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

She / Her

I do CYOA's on the Forums a Webcomic, and An Eldritch Facility Mystery

Everyday you try, you get a little better. Never give up!


Yeah to be honest I used to be kind of hard core into drugs when I was younger, and reading TCC posts about people dying, or people trying to steal meds from their dead partners, or how they will give up their arm to keep doing drugs made me seriously consider where I wanted to be in my life, and I went to rehab. (I was 16 - 17 at the time.)

hakimashou posted:

Was that person just lying about pick they never posted the quote

CaptainSarcastic posted:

That quote doesn't support your assertion, but

I've posted what has largely been agreed upon by the people who posted in both threads, and in one case by the moderation staff that Pick has said that something that was sexual assault, wasn't.

Whether you believe it, or your personal opinion agrees with her, or you find her personally likeable and you're able to look past those things in largely irrelevant. I do not want to debate this, you either believe that being penetrated by fingers is inappropriate touching, not assault like Pick had said, or you do not, like the rest of the thread had said. It's not really up to you to decide one way or the other, the problem has largely been settled by everyone and re-litigating it by going "Nuh UH That's not what happened weirdo!" is not going to change that fact.

I am sorry you can not see what others have seen in her posts, so it must seem weird and alien to you. The thing is many people feel strongly about making sure that we do not give rapists excuses, we don't try to litigate what is "light" versus "heavy" rape. Rape apologia is rape apologia no matter how much you may like or dislike a poster.

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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet




Slippery Tilde

Kazinsal posted:

Harm reduction by convincing tens of thousands of goons to never do anything harder than jack daniels and weed

It also gave us the phrase "arm reduction."

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 26 days!


Upset Trowel

Boba Pearl posted:

Yeah to be honest I used to be kind of hard core into drugs when I was younger, and reading TCC posts about people dying, or people trying to steal meds from their dead partners, or how they will give up their arm to keep doing drugs made me seriously consider where I wanted to be in my life, and I went to rehab. (I was 16 - 17 at the time.)



I've posted what has largely been agreed upon by the people who posted in both threads, and in one case by the moderation staff that Pick has said that something that was sexual assault, wasn't.

Whether you believe it, or your personal opinion agrees with her, or you find her personally likeable and you're able to look past those things in largely irrelevant. I do not want to debate this, you either believe that being penetrated by fingers is inappropriate touching, not assault like Pick had said, or you do not, like the rest of the thread had said. It's not really up to you to decide one way or the other, the problem has largely been settled by everyone and re-litigating it by going "Nuh UH That's not what happened weirdo!" is not going to change that fact.

I am sorry you can not see what others have seen in her posts, so it must seem weird and alien to you. The thing is many people feel strongly about making sure that we do not give rapists excuses, we don't try to litigate what is "light" versus "heavy" rape. Rape apologia is rape apologia no matter how much you may like or dislike a poster.

So you were lying about it then? Scumbag.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"


Pillbug

Boba Pearl posted:

I do not want to debate this, you either believe that being penetrated by fingers is inappropriate touching, not assault like Pick had said, or you do not, like the rest of the thread had said. It's not really up to you to decide one way or the other, the problem has largely been settled by everyone and re-litigating it by going "Nuh UH That's not what happened weirdo!" is not going to change that fact.

So do you and your posting buddies know you're lying and not care? Or have you genuinely worked yourself into a state of righteous illiteracy such that you can't understand the difference between, " I don't think this woman was digitally penetrated" and, "digital penetration is inappropriate touching?"

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 26 days!


Upset Trowel

Patrick Spens posted:

So do you and your posting buddies know you're lying and not care? Or have you genuinely worked yourself into a state of righteous illiteracy such that you can't understand the difference between, " I don't think this woman was digitally penetrated" and, "digital penetration is inappropriate touching?"

They are a bunch of slimey sewer lowlifes hounding another woman off SA.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

She / Her

I do CYOA's on the Forums a Webcomic, and An Eldritch Facility Mystery

Everyday you try, you get a little better. Never give up!


We are all talking about this post right? I'm so confused right now.



How can you read this and not understand what she was saying?

The unwanted touching she was talking about was Tara Reade saying she was physically penetrated??? That was what was in the news at the time, that's what the thread was talking about.

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Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

The Saga is coming from inside the thread.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014






Sorry, Boba Pearl, I have to cancel you now, too.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

She / Her

I do CYOA's on the Forums a Webcomic, and An Eldritch Facility Mystery

Everyday you try, you get a little better. Never give up!


Imagine calling a woman low life scum, because she was able to search post history and find a clear cut example of another woman defending sexual assault, not once, but twice.

I am not part of a secret cabal that complains about Pick, the onyl thing I ever bring up is this one post that offended me personally, because I was sexually assaulted in that same way, and she said it didn't count.

Here is every time I even said the word Pick in D&D

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

I just couldn't look at your old avatar anymore
Fucking nauseating!


Boba Pearl posted:

We are all talking about this post right? I'm so confused right now.



How can you read this and not understand what she was saying?

Or the time she defended domestic abuse as a completely normal thing to do

Pick posted:

I honestly don’t think one slap is that big of a deal, whether it’s a guy slapping woman or a woman slapping a guy, life is loving hard and terrible. If that’s the worst thing that ever happened in your marriage, that is pretty phenomenal. Where the gently caress did people’s standards come from.

It also makes me wonder if people feel the same way about those videos where somebody pranks the other partner or whatever and the partner and frustration slaps the other one or whatever. Like the one where the guy pretends that he accidentally dropped the toddler off of the balcony.

I really feel like a lot of people who post here have never really been that frustrated or that passionate about anything really that involved. The absolutism is incredible. Particularly it makes me wonder if any of these people of been parents, kids are one of those things it’s really easy to be virtue signally about until you have one.

Not to mention absolutism is a great way to hand a tool to manipulative people. There are definitely men and women who try to goad their partners into taking actions that now socially guarantee that they can be "the afflicted". Abuse discourse is really garbage these days.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Or referred to sex workers as "career criminals"


Pick posted:

Almost like that's a hazard of being a career criminal

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Nope



Wait wait wait...

Pick is *gone*?

Please, please, PLEASE explain how and why.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




The best thing about this thread is that everyone posts in it but nobody reads it

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 26 days!


Upset Trowel

FilthyImp posted:

Wait wait wait...

Pick is *gone*?

Please, please, PLEASE explain how and why.

Apparently the miserable poo poo rat people finally succeeded in harassing and hounding her off.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet




Slippery Tilde

Carthag Tuek posted:

The best thing about this thread is that everyone posts in it but nobody reads it

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 894 days!


Biscuit Hider

What was raspy’s first permaban for?

Heath
Apr 29, 2008



I went back and tried to find some context of the post. It seems to start here, when this was posted by Endorph.


I will note, because this is important, the text of the article wasn't posted anywhere that I have seen, only the headline.

I'll post the text of the article here because it's relevant.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-joe-biden-accusers-i-believe-them_n_5ca4fb96e4b094d3f5c5750f

quote:

Kamala Harris On Joe Biden Accusers: ‘I Believe Them’
The presidential hopeful weighed in on the recent allegations of inappropriate touching against the former vice president.
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By Alanna Vagianos

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Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) said she believes the women who have come forward alleging that former Vice President Joe Biden touched them without their consent.

“I believe them, and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it,” Harris told reporters at a presidential campaign stop in Nevada on Tuesday.

Biden, who is expected to announce a 2020 presidential bid soon, has been accused of inappropriately touching or kissing four women. All of them said his behavior was inappropriate and made them uncomfortable.

Asked whether Biden should still run for president, Harris responded that it was up to him. “He’s going to have to make that decision for himself. I wouldn’t tell him what to do,” she said.

Fellow presidential candidate former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas) chimed in on the allegations against Biden during a press conference with reporters on Wednesday morning.

“I think we need to listen to those who are raising their stories, who have the courage to come forward to share their experience,” O’Rourke told reporters in New York.

Biden addressed the accusations in a video posted to Twitter on Wednesday afternoon.

“I shake hands, I hug people, I grab men and women by the shoulders and say you can do this. Whether they’re women, men, young, old, it’s the way I’ve always been. It’s the way I’ve tried to show I care about them and listen,” he said.

“I hear what they’re saying. I understand it,” he continued. “And I’ll be much more mindful. That’s my responsibility. That’s my responsibility, and I’ll meet it.”

The former vice president initially responded to the allegations in a statement published over the weekend.

“In my many years on the campaign trail and in public life, I have offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support and comfort. And not once — never — did I believe I acted inappropriately,” he said. “If it is suggested I did so, I will listen respectfully. But it was never my intention.”

Tara Reade and digital penetration are not mentioned in this particular article.

Pick responds here:

Pick posted:

[quoting Endorph and the tweet]
I thought this was good, this is bad now?

Endorph responds.

Endorph posted:

i think agreeing to be vp for a man you think sexually assaults women, is bad

either she never actually believed them and was only saying it to score points on biden (which is bad) or shes willing to work with someone she thinks is a rapist to get political power (which is bad)

Pick posted:

Sounds to me like she agreed with The idea that he had to learn modern standards for touching, which even he admitted to. It's just amusing to me that There really doesn't seem to be a very coherent message about what is good or bad other than exactly how that story can be employed in a very specific context.

Pick posted:

Jewel Repetition posted:

No, idiot. It's funny that she's running on a ticket with someone she's gone on record saying is a sexual assaulter.

Unwanted touching is not sexual assault. It's actually one of the reasons why I, as a woman, would like to see some of the older and more clear terminology employed. Biden himself admitted that his standards for personal space and touching needed to change, but that is not the same as saying her saying that he is guilty of or admitted guilt for rape.

Endorph posted:

the older and more clear terminology that makes sexual assault okay (also unwanted touching is sexual assault)

Jewel Repetition posted:

Pick posted:

Unwanted touching is not sexual assault. It's actually one of the reasons why I, as a woman, would like to see some of the older and more clear terminology employed. Biden himself admitted that his standards for personal space and touching needed to change, but that is not the same as saying her saying that he is guilty of or admitted guilt for rape.
Whether unwanted touching is sexual assault depends on where it occurs, and I've heard of Biden touching a pretty bad place.

Pick posted:

Nucleic Acids posted:

No, I’d say it is.
Some guy touching my hair is obnoxious but it's not rape. The only reason to try to equate those things is to manipulate the experiences of women for personal political ends. No woman who has experience both would say that they are the same.

Endorph posted:

i would call one sexual assault if it is done with obvious sexual interest (and have you seen some of the looks biden is giving those ladies jesus), and the other rape. i am a woman who has experienced both. wanna try again champ or do rape victims only count if they agree with you about definitions

Boba Pearl posted:

Pick posted:

Unwanted touching is not sexual assault. It's actually one of the reasons why I, as a woman, would like to see some of the older and more clear terminology employed. Biden himself admitted that his standards for personal space and touching needed to change, but that is not the same as saying her saying that he is guilty of or admitted guilt for rape.

Shut the gently caress up Pick, penetrating someone with their fingers is rape, the man who did it to me went to jail for rape.

(Note: Pick at no point was referring to digital penetration in this discussion that I have been able to find.)

spunkshui posted:

Boba Pearl posted:

Shut the gently caress up Pick, penetrating someone with their fingers is rape, the man who did it to me went to jail for rape.
Uh... I don't think anyone would disagree but im confused why this was said.

Jewel Repetition posted:

spunkshui posted:

Uh... I don't think anyone would disagree but im confused why this was said.
Pick was trying to use her gender to get credibility on the issue and Boba Pearl blew that out of the water

spunkshui posted:

Jewel Repetition posted:

Pick was trying to use her gender to get credibility on the issue and Boba Pearl blew that out of the water
But what does a discussion of invading a persons personal space with an unwanted touch have to do with penetration?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Sub Par posted:

spunkshui posted:

Uh... I don't think anyone would disagree but im confused why this was said.
Because one of the accusers against Joe Biden said that is what he did to her.

Edit: Notably for the argument at hand, that accusation came months after the "I believe them" quote wherein Harris said she believed women who had accused Joe Biden of "inappropriate physical contact" or whatever. The two people ITT are arguing past one another.

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Scarodactyl
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Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"


Pillbug

Boba Pearl posted:

We are all talking about this post right? I'm so confused right now.



How can you read this and not understand what she was saying?

The unwanted touching she was talking about was Tara Reade saying she was physically penetrated??? That was what was in the news at the time, that's what the thread was talking about.

She's saying that she doesn't think Reade was physically penetrated, and the Biden didn't admit to penetrating her. You could have gone after her for not believing Reade, which is bad and has the benefit of being true. But you (for some reason) made up something worse. So again, did you know you were lying? Or do you genuinely not understand the difference?

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

She / Her

I do CYOA's on the Forums a Webcomic, and An Eldritch Facility Mystery

Everyday you try, you get a little better. Never give up!


I seriously don't see what you guys are talking about, it was common knowledge at the time that Tara Reade was saying she was penetrated? To say that's only inappropriate touching is awful.

E: To be honest, I seriously regret posting anything about it, I shouldn't have brought it up because it's clear that you all and I are pulling completely different things from that set of posts, and reaching entirely different conclusions. I shouldn't have said anything because I find this line of conversation triggering, and it's 100% my fault for bringing it up in the first place for trying to talk about something triggering without knowing if I could handle it or not. With the context you have posted it's clear what she was saying, which is that Joe Biden did not rape Tara Reade, because digital penetration is tantamount to inappropriate touching.

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 26 days!


Upset Trowel

Dang I'm just shocked that that libelous piece of poo poo creep posted a screenshot instead of a quote/link, so people couldn't click it to see the context, in the hope they'd be able to trick people into believing their BS smear.

Liars trying to be clever, the very worst.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006
I ran crying to the mods because someone bought me a title with naughty words in it. (twice!)
I am the world's softest bitch and you you should remind me of it forever. If this text is gone it's because I couldn't handle being a fucking loser.


Smellrose

Oh my loving God

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El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Oh my loving God

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