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One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Pastry of the Year posted:

I feel good about this result. Thanks, Acerbatus.

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One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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I think a lot of folks may have rose colored glasses on about LF, or jumped out a year or so before it actually went away. Late stage LF was a pretty unpleasant place, threads about environmental stuff (food chain options, sustainability) basically became "suicidal ideation posting zones". The feminism threads were consumed with bitter weirdos arguing about how impure other posters versions of feminism were, etc etc. There was a lot of bitterness, hopelessness, and infighting once it became apparent that somehow, PEX had been right all along about the basic nature of Obama.

Whats changed CSPAM, if it has changed that much, is two things:

The Bernie Toxx kicked a LOT of hopeful people off the board, you gotta be fairly optimistic to think Bernie was gonna win. What was that, 300+ regular posters, all some degree of "hopeful leftist"? Pretty sure most of those folks didn't come back.

Trump is gone. Not just gone but pretty much kicked off the internet. A lot of energy/attention used to be devoted to mocking/worrying/whatever about Trump that now has nowhere to go.

Also, important to realize that everyone was about 13 years younger during the heyday of LF, so keep that in mind.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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JacquelineDempsey posted:

*The exception to this being infrateal (sp?) vs heebie gbs, because that "fight" was hilarious.

Genuinely the greatest thread in forums history, way better than "Is Wario A Libertarian?"

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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E/N produced some real hosed up situations, I don't know if its a saga, really, but there was an incident in the trans goon thread years and years ago where a trans goon brought up this one trans woman prisoner who was being mistreated in prison and kept posting about how sympathetic they were and how sad the situation this brave soul was in made them. I think they may have solicited for donations for a defense fund, or maybe just for goons to donate to a trans charity?

Anyway after stanning for this lady in the thread for a while, it came out the lady was in prison for (cw: real bad poo poo) putting her preteen son in a dress and violently raping him on camera multiple times. The goon in question KNEW THIS THE WHOLE TIME and decided this person was still a good face for their efforts to convince people of the horrible mistreatment trans people face in prison. Trans people get treated awful in prison, theres probably a trans person who died in jail for like a traffic violation, why he gently caress would you pick the least sympathetic possible trans person as your example?

Ruddha had a really great quote about it, but I can't find it now.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Yes thats the quote!

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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some plague rats posted:

In awe at the mind that would write this about a convicted child molester and think "yes I'm helping" like wow thanks!!!

No one will ever convince me the poster who wrote that is not, themselves, a pedo. I don't think they even got a probe for it. We've perma-ed folks in the last month for way less blatant pedo apologia.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Heath posted:

I was aware of it as a concept, but I've never heard of anybody actually doing it.

Its rare but real. In my understanding its a super contentious topic in the trans community, cause it implies there are folks in the trans community who are actively transitioning, but aren't actually trans? So its like a foot in the door for people to buy into TERF "its a phase/fetish/sinister plan to defile the sanctity of womens public toilets" bullshit.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Marcade posted:

Sort of a Koala's March across America.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Harrow posted:

I can't go into COVID or climate change threads anymore. I peeked into the CSPAM climate change thread a couple weeks ago out of curiosity, read like two pages, and it sent me into a depressive spiral for the rest of the day. I just stay away for my own mental health. Sometimes it feels like I'm putting my head in the sand but at least for right now I want to focus on things I can actually control rather than doom-spiraling about things I can't.

I can be a little more level-headed about COVID, I guess, but it still sucks. My assumption has been for a while now that COVID is here to stay. Not like it is now, necessarily, but like, I'm just assuming that for the rest of my life I'll be getting COVID shots alongside my flu shots and hearing about COVID death numbers alongside flu death numbers. We've just got "the flu but a lot worse" now and the old flu's still there. Maybe that's wrong, maybe I'm even underreacting to it, I really don't know. But I do wonder what the shift from "pandemic" to "endemic" is going to look like.

I also try to stay out of either, but its for different reasons. The doomposting in the COVID threads is frustrating and overblown, like yes, its been terrible and, with it becoming endemic, things are going to suck more going forward, in perpetuity, but its not the end of the world.

In the climate threads its just constantly seeing more and bigger signs saying "Hey everbody, guess what?? We found the Great Filter!"

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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P. Sure profiles are not viewable at all for folks on the android app, or at least I can't find an option when I click on someones post.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Hot Diggity! posted:

The Glenn thread rocks it's the angriest thread on the forums

Its a special little place. I got called a homophobe for... *checks notes* "thinking its hosed up for an upper class person in their late 30s to gently caress/marry a homeless teen."

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Regarde Aduck posted:

so many goons carrying around notes so they can remember basic facts

i'm going to sneak a note saying 'log off' into your collection

At the rate this forum is aging, most of us are gonna need directions to the nursing home just permanently pinned to our jackets soon.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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christmas boots posted:

Doesn't look like it.

Yet.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Tiler Kiwi posted:

drat thats a lot longer than i thought it was, but yeah, there it is

I don't think thats about Fishmech, I think it was about some super-persistent randroid libertarian.

There was a famous quote about how absurdly pedantic Fishmech was, I don't remember the whole thing, but it ended with Fishmech standing in the crashing surf at a beach in a full Hitler costume saying "no, don't you see, I'm only littorally Hitler!"

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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the holy poopacy posted:

Thanks, I was just thinking about that post the other day.

lol that the internet basically implemented the attention-based economy and it turns out the inevitable result is nazis

HEY! Its Nazis AND insane conspiracy theorists that push deeply hosed up blood libel conspira- ah gently caress thats just nazis again.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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some plague rats posted:

From anyone else that would be a pretty funny troll line but he was absolutely being serious with it

It was missed by everyone because of the immediately proceeding drama bomb, but like, immediately before the KM/Honey Trap Queen reveal in the previous sagas thread, Sleeveless posted that furries/otherkin were the same as being trans because they both knew the pain of being born in the wrong body.

At first I thought it was just a lovely joke but I'm increasingly sure it was not.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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CountryMatters posted:

I'm kind of still hoping Flavius's destruction somehow takes down his home base, the lovely CSPAM trump thread, like a load-bearing JRPG boss taking down his castle as he's defeated

Theres nothing really wrong with the Trump thread other than the fact that its kinda depressing. Like, its 1/4 people posting about stromboli for some reason, 1/4 the ongoing story of one goons horrible teeth problems, 1/4 "'member this funny Trump tweet? I 'memba!" And 1/4 general nihilist politics chat.

Its pointless but not harmful.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Antivehicular posted:

It's not a great joke but the reaction is still amazing. Who thinks "I definitely need to probate a bad whitenoise joke with a picture of an anime teen's mostly-naked rear end," anyway?

When all you've got is a hammer (pictures of underage anime facesitting on your computer for some reason), every problem looks like a nail (an excuse to post underage anime facesitting pictures)

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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How are u posted:

A woman, with strong opinions, on the internet. She delt with ridiculous amounts of harassment for years and years.

She was a very funny and creative poster, and the people obsessively harassing her were gross weirdos (and sometimes Tiny Brontosaurus alts), but "strong opinions" is kinda underselling it, she had some pretty hosed up takes.

Like, was it her "physical abuse is actually preferable to bad communication in lesbian relationships" post that got her threadbanned from the R/Relationships threads? Or was it something even worse?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Tiler Kiwi posted:

has there really been much mod drama outside of cspam/dnd

gbs has had the same crew for a while i think

I remember lots of drama around Abe, and some around Ozma, they were both GBS I think.

Axemaniac was Games, and it came out he had a uh... "turning dismembered women into functioning toilets" fetish (oh wow he was into dismembering women and his name was literally axemaniac, that kinda hits different now).

Eggplant Wizard I think was the PYF mod who got called out for literally making gross porn after banning porn/porn adjacent threads.

Grover, of the titular "haus" was GIP I think?. He was was widely hated even before the insane house.

And of course Aatrek was TVIV.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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pentyne posted:

axemaniac posted a bunch of gross pencil drawings in fyad when he was trying to fit in and "be cool" although in retrospect they might've trolled him into doing it to see how far he'd go.

EPW ran a lot of the PYF threads, took a massive river of poo poo for being a women, and closed a bunch of porn threads but at the time insisted it was an admin decision, seems plausible given Lowtax's known behavior (worried about ad revenue) and had to deal with doxxing/harassment from SASS at it's peak including calling her work. She did write self published erotic fiction as well but that was when there was a thriving CC thread about it and several other goons did the same.

Ozma was declared enemy no 1 over the "cat lady" GBS era, as she was either the driving force behind GBS 2.0 or just ended up being the face of the whole thing. Also got a river of poo poo for being a women and maybe fat.

I dont remember the EPW or Ozma stuff enough to know any actual order of events, other than a sudden flash memory I just got of some goon writing Pork Lift/Ozma fanfic, just that vague drama existed. However, I've seen those axemaniac drawings (once) and they seemed detailed enough that I really doubt he got trolled into hand drawing, and I believe coloring, incredibly gross sexmurder toiletcorpse pictures, without already kinda wanting to draw said pictures.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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RFC2324 posted:

I wonder if forums with more authoritarian user based have lower mod turnover

P. Sure JimRob from Freep has outlasted Lowtax (unless he died since I last checked).

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Tiler Kiwi posted:

the talk of axemaniac reminds me of one of the favorite things ive drawn, for the 'photoshop lowtax in his future career' thread in which i did ms paint stuff cuz i cant photoshop at all. slightly nsfw due to low impact penis. i liked the other thing i drew for it, too.

Incredible!

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Douche Wolf 89 posted:

Name one good thing about CSPAM that isn't "they create extremely hosed up drama".

CSPAM, and its predecessor LF, have pushed forums culture quite a bit to the left. I like that because its nice to have SA be a place where I can talk about how lovely american police are without user "OfficerTony1488" popping in with an avatar of a dude wearing sunglasses in a truck to tell me that George Floyd was a thug hopped up on fentanyl.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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christmas boots posted:

And honestly, when people complain about C-SPAM they're mostly complaining about posters from one or two threads. The trump chat thread isn't really representative of the rest of the subforum ime

The Trump thread isnt even bad (though some real dumbasses do post in it, jesus christ SpiderHyphenMan, what the actual gently caress) most of the time its empty white noise and food discussions and sad "Tuemp" or "TUP" posts since Trump himself has been kicked off social media and Biden is the kind of terrible thats also mostly boring. You wanna see the real Bad Place in CSPAM, go visit the Greenwald thread, especially if Glenn has said anything particularly lovely recently.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Homeless Friend posted:

He was already unbanned, banned himself remember.

Also SpiderHyphenMan himself is himself a CSPAM character. He protest voted by writing in Kamala Harris lol.

Literally more pathetic than just biting the centrist bullet and voting for gropey dumpster mummy Joe Biden. She's a cop that didn't even make it to the primaries. Shameful!

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Paladinus posted:

We keep focusing on who's giving a blowjob, but we're still afraid to ask who's getting that blowjob.

I feel certain that there are a variety of short films on the internet proving that the answer to question A can also be the answer to question B.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Don Gato posted:

The Chinese government doesn't even try to deny it's a genocide lol like they have official publications saying "we have stripped their religion from them and are making them act more like the Han while destroying their culture" which is the literal definition of cultural genocide. It's just they dont say those in English and apparently Chinese is some magical language that no one outside the People's Republic can speak.

If you haven't realized yet that the chinese government is a CIA op to bring down the immortal science of Maoist thought, then you are also a CIA op.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Owlspiracy posted:

legitimately it would be good to nuke all the non-politics topics threads from cspam (video games, nba for some reason? why does cspam need an nba thread?) and force people to interact outside of the forum. its always been weird to me that the leftist shitposting thread needs threads about working out, mental health, guns, video games, investing, etc. it creates an extremely insular community which apparently slowly radicalizes into enough brain poisoned freaks that they march, one after another, to hoist themselves on the petard of defending cartoon child porn lol.

but also punish the genocide deniers and ban the mods who made 'denying genocides is ok' an explicit rule.

approaching everything through the lens of 'CAPITALISM BAD, WORLD hosed, FUTURE GRIM' legitimately causes mental harm to posters - and creating a space where you do so for every possible topic is nuts.

There is genuinely no better forum for discussing GOAT video game Disco Elysium than a forum full of depressed self-destructive leftists.

And tbf, CAPITALISM BAD is pretty much the only reasonable way to view the world of 2021.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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The best part about all this is it started from something so inexplicable. Like, I think we basically have to start with the assumption DDD is into underage fart hentai visual novel games. Otherwise where did they get the screenshot and why did they have it at the ready? That on its own is hosed up, but in what universe do you decide to share that in a super visible way with a forum that has had several good reasons to be extremely vigilant about pedo mods? Were they drunkposting? I will never understand the decision.

And then why would anyone defend the person who made that decision?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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In the event anyone didn't know, thats a Trump quote with CSPAM subbed in for America. He's a dumbass but probably not quite delusional enough to think he can go Super Poster 2.

I posted in and read the Trump threads quite a bit since 2015 (mostly dropped out after late January, y'know, when Trump was scrubbed off the internet and no longer president). I have no explanation for the spirited defense of Alvin BJ cartoons other than "Tribalism is a hell of a drug".

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Vorik posted:

Is this the guy who was a posting super star in c-spam because he went around calling people rapists and then turned out to be a sex pest himself? or was that another cspam guy

Yes, that was Taintrunner, king of the "I'm a purer leftist than you, you rapist supporter" brigade. He turned out to be a serial sex pest and landlord. He was also literally the source of the original, 99% bullshit "Obnoxious Misogynist Bernie Bro" stereotype. The writer who came up with and popularized that characterization had Taintrunner as a couchsurfer for several months around that time.

He was beloved by a very small but very loud chunk of CSPAM, the sort of leftists whose political motivation (but not ideals) are indistinguishable from the republicans. They want to see the libs get owned, and the more owned the libs are, the more socialister it is.

The folks that didn't like him learned to just not engage, because he was a jobless obsessive with time to write 400 posts a day about how you were a racist rapist defender who did not think middle easterners were people for thinking it was possible that mishandling the covid virus might actually cause more deaths than the Iraq war.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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YggiDee posted:

Sometimes I think "maybe I should hang out in more parts of the forums than Games and PYF" but inevitably something like this goes down and maybe I'll just stick to getting mad about Nintendo games.

The Simpsons meme thread in GBS is consistently incredibly rewarding, provided you have fond memories of season 2-9 of the Simpsons.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Antifa Turkeesian posted:

What was the trump thread even about at this point? The guy hasn’t said or done anything in five months or more.



One More Fat Nerd posted:

Theres nothing really wrong with the Trump thread other than the fact that its kinda depressing. Like, its 1/4 people posting about stromboli for some reason, 1/4 the ongoing story of one goons horrible teeth problems, 1/4 "'member this funny Trump tweet? I 'memba!" And 1/4 general nihilist politics chat.

Its pointless but not harmful.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Bismuth posted:

I think theres a little validity to generational differences but not the way they're set up now. Just going by years doesnt seem to make sense as much as maybe going by major cultural shifts/events. Like people that were already teens/adults when ubiquitous non-dialup internet hit probably had a pretty different childhood than those that were like 10 when it hit, who had a different experience than those born after that grew up with tablets as baby toys and stuff. Same as people who grew up with common phones in the household vs no phones probably had pretty different experiences socially that would shape who they are differently

In the US at least polling indicates a pretty sharp political cutoff for (mostly white) folks somewhere in the middle of "Gen X", right around age 50 or so. Americans in a 20 or so year upward range of that seem very different from the folks older and younger than them. Specifically, they're way more likely to be Trump lovers, with all the various attitude markers that entails (white racial grievance, sexism, conspiracy theory love, etc).

I like the current theory that this generational cohort (born ~1950-1970) is at the intersection of massively rising car culture and leaded gas still being a thing, so they've basically all got brain damage from atmospheric lead poisoning.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Heath posted:

Leaded gasoline wasn't banned until 1996

Phase out of leaded gas started in 73 or so, by the 90s it was under 1% of fuel sold.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Tiler Kiwi posted:

people should have been jailed over leaded gas, every time i think about it i get pissed off

If I remember right, the dude that invented the lead additive, tetraethyl lead, had a big press conference to show it was perfectly safe, where he poured the additive all over himself and maybe even drank some of the additive?? to show how serious he was about it being safe and not causing lead poisoning. He had previously scheduled for an extended sick leave following the conference because he knew doing this would make him tremendously ill and definitely give him lead poisoning.

I'll absolutely admit to finding a strong element of bleak, absurdist humor in the idea that the defining political moments of the last decade have been due to mass brain damage. However, the main reason I like the "leadbrained boomers" idea is that it lets me live in a world where my parents and their cohort are sick, rather than one where they are in perfect control of their faculties, but when they saw a black president they immediately built a death cult around the first open fascist they were allowed to vote for.

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Apr 13, 2007

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Zil posted:

Isn't he the dude that also took a huge whiff of one of his inventions to prove its safe, impressed the nearby critics, and then spend the next few days bedridden?

Thats the incident I posted about, apparently he didnt drink the tetraethyl lead, he poured it on his hands and arms and then huffed it for a minute straight, and he was sick for quite a bit longer than a few days.

The time travel kill list idea is funny, but I've always been partial to the (insane) idea that between CFCs and TEL, he was an alien infiltrator sent to ensure we never made it past a Type-0 civilization.

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Apr 13, 2007

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christmas boots posted:

That happened at least twice IIRC

One of the times was Negromancer, right? Was he also the one who argued that lighter skinned black posters should defer to darker skinned black posters by default?

If I remember right, he's also the goon who claimed Lowtax was skimming CC transaction data and got fired from his computer toucher job for doing something illegal to try and prove it.

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One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Homeless Friend posted:

I can't remember how many actual trumpers there were. Boosted_C5 ofc, Vile posted a pic of himself at a MAGA rally lol. Most of the Trump toxx thread were chill gbs dudes/baloogan/small segment of "i told you bro" re: hillary. I wish i remembered that one guy from that latter crew who made that huge post on how right he was after the 8th. Username started with a D I think and he had a wanderer above the sea of fog AV. I remember one guy burned a MAGA hat in the toxx thread when trump was -15 in the polls and ZDR offered him an out. C-SPAM golden age ruled.

You might be thinking of The_Saurus, a Trump fan who played like a rational Hillary-skeptical "whataboutism" type throughout the 2016 election. He then posted a big rant the day after Trump won about how extremely excited he was about President-Elect Trump's incoming government hurting and killing minorities and, especially, undocumented immigrants. I believe it literally ended with "gently caress, *slur*, *different slur*, *a third seperate slur*, DIE, DIE, DIE"

We found out from his fiancee (who he met through some MMO) a year or so later that he was deported back to the UK by the Trump admin due to being an undocumented immigrant.

He was also sorta forums famous for eating "floor pizza" but I was never sure what exactly that was.

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