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What's that? It's a new thread? Finally, it's autumn (according to the deep state  ), the madness of Covid-19 has subsided and we can look forward to some normalcy... ...oh no. [Source: Imperial College Department of We're All hosed] So after school closure and a half arsed lockdown we've followed that first part of the green curve pretty much exactly, and despite large protests in London against a second wave, SARS-CoV-2 has not yet issued a response.  (thanks NotJustANumber99) Which means these may be seeing a new round of importance soon: Find Your Local COVID-19 Mutual Aid Group - or set one up Also check: https://freedomnews.org.uk/covid-19-uk-mutual-aid-groups-a-list/ https://secretldn.com/uk-community-aid-groups-by-area/ https://queercare.network/our-work/resources/covid-19/ In Other News  The Conservatives are attempting to undermine the Electoral Commission for what can surely only be legitimate reasons. 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learnincurve posted:Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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It's a beautiful country run according to some very non-beautiful principles, but without the mountains and fauna.
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posting to bookmark https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1300446164807020545
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Cities are not their people or architecture or culture but a concentration of power. It is government policy that towns and villages used to regenerate cities, parasites of glass and concrete. Empty them all like Pripyat, towers of silence. gently caress cities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk
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Firos posted:England bad.
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You are good people and these are good threads with good posts (anti-chocolate-orange propaganda notwithstanding) I keep forgetting to ask, please could you add me to the CLP list, under Banbury? (Such a safe Tory seat they don't even bother to photoshop the PR stunts properly )
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I think its time for Britain to reclaim the crown of garbage island from that literal island of garbage Singapore is building
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Happy Days at the next town over, https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/emergency-meeting-over-coronavirus-outbreak-at-banham-poultry-in-attleborough-1-6816213 Its been growing for a few weeks now. 96 positive out of 477 tested, 800 staff total and no track and trace. Local racists are blaming brown people that work there and commute from Gt Yarmouth.
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My sister in law has given up all pretence of social distancing and in the last week has been out on a date, two meetups with her skating friends and a rounders game with her friends family, who posted a photo to facebook of the fifteen of them standing with their arms round each other. I have asthma, and she does the shopping for her gran who has COPD. These dickheads think it's over because they got bored of distancing, they got used to the daily death count, the press aren't really talking about it any more and the government are straight up lying, so it feels like it's not real. I almost don't blame her. Looking at the broader media context everyone seems absolutely fine with 40,000 people dead and over 1500 new cases daily. I feel like I'm going insane.
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It's not real until it kills you.
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From the darkness we must fall Failed and weak to darkness all
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E: nm
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Did Brexit happen yet
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Ms Adequate posted:From the darkness we must fall So say we all
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Posie Parker sounds like a villain from a 1940s childrens novel.
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OwlFancier posted:It's not real until it kills you. And if it doesn't, the government did a great job.
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I'd feel totally nuts if not for my company steadfastly supporting us and saying, nope, no office until at least next year. They've allowed any staff who want it, to switch to permanent work from home with no consequences, so several of my teammates are in the process of moving to different cities to be with family/partners and we've already hired two folks from the USA time zones who have happily said they will get start work at 2am their time until covid is over. Company offered to move them over and they all just said nah, we'd rather stay remote. It's really going to be a thing I think now. There's no going back. I don't think most of my colleagues will ever go back to the office full time. I really hope the rest of the tech sector follows eventually.
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All cops, not just the institution of the police but every single individual copper, are bastards
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Borrovan posted:All cops, not just the institution of the police but every single individual copper, are bastards
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Feels weird, this year has been insane with work and orders and now the boss is saying we're gonna expand and built an assembly line to make production more efficient. So I got work cut out for me, been going to work every drat day except when I had vacation. My work is located in a rural municipality of 2200 people though.
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Probably should take me off the CLP list (for Stroud) since I Dramatically Quit the Labour Party a few months back.
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sebzilla posted:Probably should take me off the CLP list (for Stroud) since I Dramatically Quit the Labour Party a few months back. Yeah you could probably do the same for Sanitary Naptime as well tbh
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His Divine Shadow posted:Feels weird, this year has been insane with work and orders and now the boss is saying we're gonna expand and built an assembly line to make production more efficient. So I got work cut out for me, been going to work every drat day except when I had vacation. My work is located in a rural municipality of 2200 people though. The life of santa's elfs.
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A+ OP image.Bobby Deluxe posted:My sister in law has given up all pretence of social distancing and in the last week has been out on a date, two meetups with her skating friends and a rounders game with her friends family, who posted a photo to facebook of the fifteen of them standing with their arms round each other. I can understand this. Even I'm starting to get fed up with the level of precautions I'm taking, and I'm probably among the most paranoid regular posters about this stuff - but I'm also panicking about going back into work for like 2 hours tomorrow (probably pointlessly, as they've already acknowledged that they probably don't need me in in person for the foreseeable future). People for whom the thing isn't as severe, or who haven't understood how severe it is, at this stage I really struggle to blame for just giving up and going back to normal, because the government has screwed up and confused its response SO heavily that it's basically impossible to know what to do, AND it's been going on for so long that anybody would have gotten antsy and wanted to just... stop... with this poo poo. Good lord I'm tired of it. But it doesn't go away just because you're tired of it. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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Yeah, the genie's out of the bottle here: after 6 months of this, it's utterly undeniable that for a huge swathe of the population, there's absolutely no need for them to be in the office every day and that can't be wished away again. The Tories and their mates in the press can demand that we all get back to 'normal' as much as they want but businesses will make the decisions that are best for them: crucially, managers aren't scared of having staff work from home any more and can see how their companies can save money by allowing it.
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Borrovan posted:All cops, not just the institution of the police but every single individual copper, are bastards I am willing to allow a few exceptions if they have only very recently joined, under the bamboozling influence of detective fiction.
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thespaceinvader posted:Good lord I'm tired of it. But it doesn't go away just because you're tired of it. Like I could understand protesting against the lockdown, and demanding mandatory masks and hand washing and surface cleansing until there's a vaccine. Or I could understand protesting against masking and cleansing, and demanding a full lockdown until there's a vaccine, there's enough economic trickery that we could manage it with some rationing. I could even understand asking for the vaccine to be rushed, just to get past masking and lockdown, even if that's ill advised. But the only way that protesting against the lockdown, and masks, and a vaccine (and a second wave 🤔) makes any sense at all is if they're all just tired of it and can't face up to that not meaning that it isn't over.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, the genie's out of the bottle here: after 6 months of this, it's utterly undeniable that for a huge swathe of the population, there's absolutely no need for them to be in the office every day and that can't be wished away again. https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1299748424313602049?s=19 (full article is here but paywall and lol if i'm paying to read Rentoul)
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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, the genie's out of the bottle here: after 6 months of this, it's utterly undeniable that for a huge swathe of the population, there's absolutely no need for them to be in the office every day and that can't be wished away again. I wonder if the clamour to get "back to normal" will fade now that we're in September? Commercial leases generally run September-August, and I can absolutely see the Tories trying to put their thumb on the scale to at least limit the amount of companies deciding not to renew. Obviously a lot of these renewals are negotiated starting in March and April and suddenly another part of the fuzziness around lockdown becomes clear.
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Guavanaut posted:Not facing up to that must be the best explanation for the protests over the weekend, because they don't make sense in any other light. They make perfect sense in the light of there are thousands of hours of pure misinformation out there about masks, on youtube, on right wing TV generally, mostly in the US but the Algorithm doesn't care where it gets its eyes from. The people not bothering with the restrictions (i.e. just going on about their lives without putting a mask on in the shops, not arguing about it, just... not caring) are the ones rebelling against it because they just can't be arsed any more and not facing up to it still being necessary. The ones going to protests because masks reduce their oxygen or actually absord virus particles and make it more likely for you to get it, or don't actually work or the vaccine that doesn't exist yet is actually mind control chips designed by bill gates to use 5g to make the frogs gay or whatever the gently caress at the ones who have been brain poisoned by extreme right wing thought of the kind you see in the US stuff in the politoons thread. I don't think it's about not facing up to something, I think it's about them simply having genuinely lost most of their rational thought about it. There's no real way to get through to them without cutting off the firehose of insane wrong that's aimed straight at their faces basically the entire time. CGI Stardust posted:Actually, 'Offices have always been the most efficient way to work' would have been true even up until like... 5 or 10 years ago, when the vast majority or records were still on paper, and even the ones that weren't were mostly on hard drives that were location-specific and difficult to access remotely. It just isn't true any more. Which I don't doubt he knows, but you gotta shill for the bosses.
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Was chatting about this at the weekend. With no commute for so many people for so long I think even if we all did start going back to work. Loads more people learnt to cook more things and had to figure out cheaper alternatives to that £7 sandwich from Pret or a starbucks. Yeah there's a certain convenience element to it, but I honestly think that entire industry of selling overpriced food to rushing commuters is never going to get back to what it was.
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The main thing for me is the commute cost. I don't even have to commute from outside London and I'm saving so much on tube fairs that I can't imagine going back to the old routine. To say nothing of the millions of commuters from the surrounding counties who are suddenly saving up to £500 a month that they would have given to Greater Anglia et al. People will have adjusted their lifestyles around this change and getting them to go back to 'normal' won't be an easy ask.
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My Calendar of Kittens that hangs in the bathroom says Autumn begins on the 22nd.
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"The reason most service industries are organised in offices must be because that has been the most efficient way of working." Must is doing a lot of heavy lifting for Rentoul there...
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thespaceinvader posted:The ones going to protests because masks reduce their oxygen or actually absord virus particles and make it more likely for you to get it, or don't actually work or the vaccine that doesn't exist yet is actually mind control chips designed by bill gates to use 5g to make the frogs gay or whatever the gently caress at the ones who have been brain poisoned by extreme right wing thought of the kind you see in the US stuff in the politoons thread. I don't think it's about not facing up to something, I think it's about them simply having genuinely lost most of their rational thought about it. There's no real way to get through to them without cutting off the firehose of insane wrong that's aimed straight at their faces basically the entire time. Dead Goon posted:My Calendar of Kittens that hangs in the bathroom says Autumn begins of the 22nd.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Posie Parker sounds like a villain from a 1940s childrens novel. So this is something I feel a bit guilty about. I heard about this Posie Parker person last year (visa vie some article about Terfs and a woman who realized she had been radicalized by them.) And I was convinced that they were talking about the actress Parker Posie. So when I watched Season 2 of Lost in Space, I was convinced that she was this awful woman going around spreading hateful stuff in the world. I didn't realize that was another dickhead who has chosen an incredibly similar name. It would be like if there was a man named Ceremy Jorbyn who threw wild minks and ferrets at people on the street, and it got pinned on someone else instead.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, the genie's out of the bottle here: after 6 months of this, it's utterly undeniable that for a huge swathe of the population, there's absolutely no need for them to be in the office every day and that can't be wished away again. Everytime I've ever complained about not being able to buy a home, some smug boomer has always told I spend too much money. My biggest expense in both time and money is pointlessly (as shown by the last 7 months) commutting across the city. My performance has actually gone up over the Covid period. It's going to be very hard to guilt me into going back into the office to save Firstgroup & Pret's bottomline. As an aside there's an entire level of management whos job is entirely 'looking over peoples shoulders' who were clearly alarmed by the lack of impact on performance and are now getting increasingly nervous about the future. I do find it funny that while the papers are demanding that people go back into offices, the vast majority of their staff are still working from home and they have no plans to get them to return this year.
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The Question IRL posted:So this is something I feel a bit guilty about.
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