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1glitch0 posted:I'll probably be probed if I explain the joke.
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When the war started, I had two different TVs set up in the same room so I could watch both at once. It's been what less than a year? I haven't even read full results of NXT most weeks and I've got passing interest in Takeovers because how how steep the drop in quality was. And it's a fuckin' shame because there's so many people who used to be some of my favorites there and they've just adapted to the NXT House Style which is just barely flashier than the main roster style. Moving to Tuesday probably isn't going to get me to start watching again, even if I had nothing else in particular to do Tuesday nights
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Sep 3, 2020 00:23
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Tato posted:At least Law and Order SVU writes the characters off as they leave. I'm supposed to believe NXT is an actual brand when the champs keep losing their belts and then immediately show up on Raw/SD the next episode without a single bit of explanation or closure. Then it just ends up with one of the same 4 loving wrestlers getting the belt again.
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Sep 3, 2020 00:34
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The two TV/PPV events I went to were WCW Souled Out 1999: Goldberg/Scott Hall in a ladder match after Goldberg's streak was ended + a REALLY awesome 4-Way between Psicosis/Rey/Juvi/Kidman AEW Dynamite #5: The Halloween episode where Kenny came out as Sans from Undertale and I think it was Shida's Dynamite debut On the subject of NXT to Tuesday, it's kind of funny that they'll be saddled up with TNA again after TNA tried very unsuccessfully to start a war against the WWE, and less than 10 years later the WWE has bled out so many viewers that they're getting the same ratings as TNA did in their futile Monday Night War attempt
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Sep 4, 2020 00:02
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Paper Lion posted:sheamus is going to win. i can feel it in my bones.
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Sep 4, 2020 03:53
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Endless Mike posted:I got to one of these during a vacation in St. Pete, and yeah it was fun. I got to see Braun before they knew what they were doing with him.
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Sep 4, 2020 04:54
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WWE isn't in this to win, they're in it to drain people's bank account and make them completely miserable the entire process. So it would take say, a union of currently employeed wrestlers to get things to change 
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Sep 5, 2020 01:21
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I have no idea how real sports work and to what control the teams/league have over those Athletes but (surprise!) they usually have unions are are EXTREMELY well paid at the professional level most of the time. But WWE is Sports Entertainment, so it'd be like telling Bryan Cranston while he was doing Breaking Bad that he cannot appear in any commercials or other endorsements because it might hurt the Breaking Bad Brand. The WWE must be jealous of idol culture in Japan and Korea where their company controls literally every single aspect of their life, and scandals like having a boyfriend without permission is grounds to blackball that person from the entertainment industry after dragging them through the mud
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Sep 5, 2020 03:19
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Dango Bango posted:Given some of the amounts floating around at the Twitch/Cameo money, couldn't they just pay the fines and keep on doing what they're doing?
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Sep 5, 2020 04:34
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Yeah this seems like "long term booking" to get THE ODDS against Big E so he can overcome them later, except in the unlikely event that Vince changes his mind between now and then. Big E was the only loving guy that made sense winning that match against a heel champ, with three heels in the 4-way and they've already been kind of hinting at Big E's big singles push. This was spite booking.
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Sep 5, 2020 04:40
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I went to reddit and saw the thread "Vince McMahon officially bans all WWE talent from associating themselves with 3rd Parties (Twitch, Cameo). Talents given 30 days to comply." I thought "well maybe it's because I browse Squared circle occasionally" that it was on the front page, so I loaded up my VPN and I switched between 4 different servers in four different countries. WWE's awful treatment of their wrestlers is trending internationally on reddit.
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Sep 5, 2020 05:53
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Astro7x posted:Weren't WWE trying to recreate the Meet and Greet packages by selling 2 minute zoom calls for an insane amount of money as part of Summer Slam?
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Sep 5, 2020 05:58
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dsriggs posted:Bix, Andrew Yang & Marty McFly's mom are gonna save wrestling together. Unionize Cerebral Bore posted:Andrew Yang is a complete idiot at best and a malicious piece of poo poo at worst, but when he's right he's right. Not that the Democrats would actually stand up for workers' rights, but still.
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Sep 5, 2020 06:11
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Rarity posted:Britt Baker's boyfriend's girlfriend is dunking on the competition!
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Sep 5, 2020 07:37
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dsriggs posted:Bruh....
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Sep 5, 2020 07:59
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Akileese posted:If I were one of these people making a shitload on twitch or cameo, I'd call their bluff. I don't think they're going to fire anyone. Unionize! Don't worry, WWE has enough boot lickers, brain worms, and professional catering taste testers to continue the brand without you
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Sep 7, 2020 03:08
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One day I dream of the day I wake up and read posts from boomers complaining that the wrestlers unionized and ruined the industry because Vince said they couldn't play their video games.
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Sep 7, 2020 03:29
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People are calling KENTA someone who couldn't cut it in WWE and a castoff, a dude who had maybe a combined 20 hours combined in the ring over the length of his 5 year WWE career because he spent most of it injured or not booked. Sure, Hideo Itami had a 5 year career in the WWE but it's so minuscule to the other 15 years he wrestled and I wouldn't be shocked if he was in the ring longer in one month in NOAH than most years he was in the ring for the WWE The WWE fans are in the cult too and will find any way they can to make wrestlers feel like they didn't matter unless they were working for the WWE, no matter how long or great their careers were outside of it were before or after.
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Sep 7, 2020 04:54
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HulkaMatt posted:I saw mention of this on the twitter TL a couple days ago and it lead to another conversation about how they just don't know what to do with Japanese talent. Like - What the hell is KUSHIDA doing? Been in the company for a year in a half now. Wildly popular outside of WWE. Seems to just be... coasting. They've got the same exact problem with Luchadores, they've unmasked the biggest bulk of them that have come through and the ones who still have masks are treated like jobbers or jokes. Instead of creating this fabled new Rey Mysterio they opted to stall long enough they just got back Rey Mysterio and they're prepping his son up to be the next new star even though he looks like a very large dork without a mask or character. Let's also add in some of the resentment that Vince has against indie darlings and guys under 6'4. There's just a couple anomalies in the WWE that have been given the chance to get over and stay at the top of the card and I think Vince would probably much rather have an 80's looking WWF roster full of roided out white beef muscle men, a couple racist caricatures, sprinkled with Bikini models like Sable and Sunny type valets that don't or barely wrestle. The WWE isn't being wrote for fans of Wrestling, it's being wrote for an audience of Vince McMahon and we've seen over the last 15 years if he doesn't "get" it, that act isn't going to stick around for long unless they get so over that Vince thinks he can make money off them (Like CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and Becky Lynch)
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Sep 7, 2020 07:04
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There's some kind of joke comparing the WWE and the US draft during the Vietnam War here, someone catch the lay-up Vince absolutely thinks he's entitled to control the lives of everyone who works for him and the fans still around encourage the behavior by attacking anyone that's ever worked there and speaks badly against it. I know there's obnoxious fans from almost every single promotion out there but WWE has done more harm in the last 10 years to Wrestling than it has to help it and Vince would rather have the entire wrestling industry die with him by any means necessary than see any kind of legitimate competition or alternative to his brand in his life again. RealFoxy fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Sep 7, 2020 09:04
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Rarity posted:Remember how some wXw content went up on the Network? Well they cut out all the bits with Julian Pace and David Starr who were named during #SpeakingOut
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Sep 7, 2020 22:12
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ICR posted:I love when WWE gets their hand on the dictionary and just throws what they feel are cool words together. The brain beater
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Sep 8, 2020 04:13
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It can still be the voice of Owens pitched up without Owens having any involvement with the group, they do this kinda stuff all the time and the deeper voice could be Braun, also having nothing to do with the group. Undertaker and Kane did Kai En Tai dubs once, Vince has done a handful of voice overs for stuff completely unrelated to them. Chances are they still don't even know who's in Retribution anyway
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Sep 8, 2020 05:29
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I just made myself really bummed out by falling down the rabbit hole of NTX -> Main Roster debuts from 2016-2018 and I just can't imagine what the state of the WWE will look like when they can have RAWs in front of full capacity crowds again
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Sep 8, 2020 05:41
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Neodoomium posted:I'm amazed he hasn't already been called up to be a ninja. So Kushida was only marginally better off not being on the main roster than Ricochet was for a long time
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Sep 8, 2020 05:53
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Eat My Fuc posted:Ah, true. They definitely referenced it in the promo. Which is kinda lovely if it doesn't lead to rehires
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Sep 8, 2020 06:03
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Orange Carlisle posted:I like how the retribution group complains about stuff that are real complaints by the talent but of course WWE needs to twist it into a painfully uncool angle instead of addressing and fixing it backstage for real
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Sep 9, 2020 00:09
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Strawberry Panda posted:The pipebomb promo set up Vince as the heel with Cena and Punk being two different types of babyfaces. Run down Cena, Hogan, and The Rock (A heel thing) Gripe about how "management held him down", talks poo poo about USA Network, and talk about Lesner in a positive light before Lesner returned (A heel thing) Brag about being the best (A heel thing) Talks about how much he hates the hypocritical fans buying WWE products and asking him for autographs (A heel thing) Brings up rival promotions on where he'll take the title (A heel thing) If anything, it was supposed to be a heel turn while painting "smarks" as also heels to the WWE because Vince truly hated the idea of smarks and indie darlings, and thought that threatening to go to ROH or NJPW would upset the fans.
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Sep 9, 2020 01:50
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blunt posted:Vince seems to have a weird 5 year itch for someone cutting a 'shoot promo' about how bad he and WWE are:
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Sep 9, 2020 03:04
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It was a work where Miz and Brian cut shoot promos on how different they were and kayfabe hated each other. It lead to nothing because Brian couldn't wrestle at the time and Vince didn't give a poo poo about what happened on side-shows so the ultimate blowoff we got was face Miz vs heel Danial Brian
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Sep 9, 2020 04:45
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BrigadierSensible posted:So Miz and Bryan have real life beef? They get under each other's skin and make natural rivals, the Talking Smack promo came at a really awkward time where Brian couldn't do anything about it and the WWE is so bad at booking they never followed up on it. RealFoxy fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Sep 9, 2020 |
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Sep 9, 2020 07:06
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Cerebral Bore posted:The whole purpose of airing NXT on Wednesdays in the first place was to undercut AEW. They're not moving unless they're forced to. WWE decided to put them live and dilute their own product to attempt to kneecap AEW despite claiming that AEW weren't a threat and they never think about them (Also NXT started like two weeks live before AEW, and NXT would time commercials around AEW so people would flip over to them and hope people would stay there) How hard could it have been to book a show with legitimately, like 15 of the best pro wrestlers from the past 8 years? AEW had higher peaks (Jericho, Omega, Riho, Bucks, Mox) but the average level of talent when NXT and AEW went head to head, NXT was way ahead.
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Sep 11, 2020 05:57
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shiksa posted:the minimum workrate level nowadays is so high that its almost a moot point about who has the best wrestlers, but how they're used WWE is real bad at this whole wrestling thing and they're starting to sink the ship in the sports entertainment industry too.
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Sep 11, 2020 09:09
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Okay, I just saw the Carmella clips on Twitter and I've got to ask how many women have been given this EXACT same gimmick, with these exact same promo packages only for the WWE to get cold feet or drop it early. Summer Rae, Eva Marie, Lana, Emma, Liv, and now Carmella? How many am I missing here
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Sep 12, 2020 10:09
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extradite THIS! posted:What even is the gimmick? ”A beautiful woman”? Wow, that’s quite the exciting pro wrestling gimmick. Riveting Is Vince just chasing another Sable or something? Is that why he's obsessed with Brock Lesner?
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Sep 12, 2020 10:42
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The brand split is supposed to be there to address the roster bloat they had after buying out WCW/ECW and it made sense back then when there wasn't a whole lot of interaction between the brands and anytime they were cross-promoting there were legitimate rivalries that were hold-overs from pre brand-split or when one or two people moved brands. But now there's so many cross-overs and brand shake-ups it doesn't loving matter. There's still theoretically more reasons to keep a brand split than get rid of it though because: There's still a massively bloated roster, it just doesn't feel like it because they use like a tenth of them on TV. Having titles for both shows was a good way to have 2-3 different sets of main eventers and stories going Fox and USA are two rival networks and want the show they're paying millions for to feel like THEIR WWE brand (But WWE is doing a godawful job of doing it) I know people loathe the brand split but every time they've been lax on it, Smackdown just becomes a recap show and they use the same ~15 people on both shows. I guess I don't have a horse in the race anymore because watching all 3 shows is already exhausting enough to me so I only watch like an hour of WWE a week anyway but y'all enjoy having Baron Corbin main eventing two shows a week
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Sep 12, 2020 20:52
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Vagabundo posted:Remember how TNA had an incredible roster, but IPMACT! was, at times, a nightmare hellscape of wasted potential?
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Sep 13, 2020 06:18
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DeepDickPizza posted:Also, as a person who watches a lot of Cartoon Network in the afternoon, I remembered that they've been running commercials for their Wrekkin' Slambulance toy for like a month now with Drew heavily featured and narrating it. Long before it was announced or even hinted at on television. I think they did the same thing with Braun before his ambulance match with Roman (?) a couple years ago. So, the company clearly has some long-term planning and it all revolves around promoting specific toys. The first time NXT did the shark cage it was so jarring because Paul Ellering rarely, if at all interfered in matches before that and didn't do it after either
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Sep 15, 2020 21:27
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fatherofmustard posted:https://www.pwinsider.com/article/139580/what-happened-with-mickie-james-and-asuka-last-night.html?p=1  I wonder if they've got their fingers on the trigger after the Matt Hardy accident
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There might've been more significance to Hurt Business defending RAW if they hadn't debuted like the same time Retribution did, and did more than just harass Apollo Crews and R-Truth for a couple months.
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