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trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Pollyanna posted:

Is it just me, or is Botan's 2D model leagues better than everyone else's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QofLVitOzjo&t=1m51s

It seems a lot more responsive than like, Marine's or Coco's.

The new models have better mouth and face tracking tech. The older ones will probably get retrofitted if they ever give a poo poo about that.

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trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Oh, and I also enjoy the Chinese shitpost videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDXcO31Q3XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icjlhps-tJ0

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

There have been videos of pretty much everybody trying to imitate each other voices (and the peko laugh), with varied degrees of success. But everybody pretty much agrees that trying to imitate Miko's elite vicodin-drawl is pretty much impossible. She's hilarious.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Lt. Lizard posted:

Everyone knows about DooG, but I just discovered that a certain Elite Miko played Doom as well and it was great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckiD1kAe3fw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6JquqEA4oM

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Tabletops posted:

speaking of karaoke

pekora has the best voice I've heard of the hololive people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YotDsLALvWU


also i can't get over pekora and marine's chemistry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsUsWW5CaAc

Pekora is just an extremely talented streamer playing a ridiculous character. She doesn't even need to do any gimmick or nerd-appeal BS to get more views.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Cappy posted:

I think Pekora is beyond playing a character because I have never seen her break character, it's like she's gone native as a smug idiot and her real self cannot return to our world.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725235936345980928/750682969508675725/3a2237a5a35ab5dfb4aa7681b739f367b8df19a3.mp4
(Thanks reddit)

It's a (comedic) character that does pretty much what she wishes she could do in real life because she has social anxiety issues. Hopefully playing pekora will help her irl.

So it's not 100% a character that she's playing

trucutru fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Sep 2, 2020

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
There is plenty of money to be made by launching cross-platform vtubers so we'll see them soon. Take some new VA, put her into a high-profile anime/game, and then have her stream as her own character. If the character is popular then it's safe money. Can you imagine the success of a modern Asuka Langley insulting her viewers? That could pretty much bring Japan out of its stagflation by itself.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Tabletops posted:

drat. I guess it's better than nothing. Feel kinda bad for some of the hololive streamers who don't take in the superchat money like coco and marine and Pekora. Whoever else.

Compared to how much other sorts of artists get fleeced by their managers 30-40% is quite a bit. In any case, pretty much all the hololive girls should be making good money.

Expect Coco to soon branch into merch (followed by the others).

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

KoB posted:

would murder for an Okayu nendo

You will get a Kanata t-shirt and like it!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpw7b1qV3qw

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Trihugger posted:

Polka is so awesome. I hope she finds enough success and contentment that she doesn't have to be so fatalistic. I know a lot of young people have the same attitude of "live hard and die young," but it's hard not to contextualize her point of view as coming from someone who's on their second playthrough.

I mean, by being in her hololive gen she pretty much got like 150k subscriptions before she even started streaming. Like, talk about a head start.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Stairmaster posted:

is coco really playing video games for 8 hours at time

Some of them read super chats for 5+ hours, and video games are funner than that.

There is also the 10 hrs Getting over it stream with Pekora where she got the golden cauldron.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Ibblebibble posted:

Japan has no fair use laws. Most companies allow independent streamers to stream their stuff, but since Hololive is corporate they have to go and get permission to stream.

Yeah, but why would you expect the corporation behind Hololive to know this? Like, it's not like that's their job or that they skim plenty of money from the talent in order to do such a thing.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Tabletops posted:

I watched some stream where they put everyone on a otaku not otaku chart. I think it was listed here earlier.


Anyway, they put Pekora on the firmly not otaku side.

She seems like an enormous nerd and given how often she talks about never going outside (before the pandemic) and relationship with her mom she almost comes off as a hikki.

Almost comes off? She was/is totally a shut-in, close-to-hikki, gaming nerd. Her parents do know she somehow earns money (because she doesn't ask for pocket money), but she hasn't told them that she's Pekora and is making a nice amount. She's kind of a brat IRL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkCs4NDk5zs

trucutru fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Sep 5, 2020

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Zeether posted:

Korone is playing Tetris 99 right now and she is loving determined to win, it's wild

Korone has the will but I doubt she has the Tetris skills. Will need some Suisei coaching.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Tabletops posted:

Shigeru Ui des!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrljgthYxwg

may have posted this already but since i watched it a few days ago I will occasionally get shigeru ui's impression of kanata doing an impression of her saying her name in my head. it's a blessing and a curse.

Ui is great. Here is my favorite video of her, she's just brutal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djk-LBN6zlo

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Tabletops posted:

Pekora is streaming xenoblade chronicles on switch. I wonder if she'll play the whole thing?

Most likely, she's always looking for long-rear end cinematic games to comment on.

e: Also lol at that Kanata/Watame collab where the first thing that Kanata does is Coco's panty kick. She's basically her daughter now.

trucutru fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Sep 6, 2020

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Watame basically posts a "hi guys" in reddit and it almost immediately hits the front page



So much for no simp september.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
One day either the doggo or the rabbit are going to post and bring the site down.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Ibblebibble posted:

Pekora clicks on GBS by accident

YABAI PEKO

5 minutes later she's shitposting pretending to be Rushia.

Doggo vs Rabbit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9blL8Dz0yU

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Cappy posted:

This is hosed up but sometimes I worry that everyone bullies Pekora too much, and then I see clips like this and realize she deserves every minute of it.

(Given the chance Korone would have totally killed, skinned, and cooked that rabbit but she would have done it in such an absurdly cute way that nobody would mind)

Anyways, Pekora is just magnanimously letting them believe they can bully her.

Pekora and Marine are the best at doing collabs because they are the ones that get the most out of their partners. Marine can get a real nice conversation going and Pekora, well, she does what Pekora does.

trucutru fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Sep 7, 2020

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

I Am Fowl posted:

I feel like it's a fight between No Simp September and just plain Simptember in the hearts of the people.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Lt. Lizard posted:

Matsuri is absolutely terrible about this and my least favorite Hololive Vtuber as a result. To be entirely fair, it might be entirely a result of translators latching onto the "joke" (because of course they would :rolleyes:) and combing her streams to showcase every single instance of it, but either way her jokingly (at least I sincerely hope it's a joke) lusting over little girls happens way too loving often.

Matsuri gimmick is to be as outrageous as possible, even if it makes someone else uncomfortable. Marine gimmick is to be a horny pirate and the sheep sometimes plays a covert pervert. Those are the ones that do that kind of humor.

Coco is also outrageous but due to her background doesn't do that sort of jokes.

For whatever it's worth it's implied that they are talking about manga/eroge/anime characters which is "ok" in nerd culture. Specially Marine, who is a huge otaku.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Cappy posted:

Watame in that scene says that she worked at a (real) preschool and that she thought the (real) kids were cute in a conversation about whether she is a lolicon.

Well, that's a really dumb thing to say, even in JP.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Pollyanna posted:

I wonder if the meaning of the word “lolicon” in Japanese somehow doesn’t refer to being sexually attached to and wanting to molest children, cause that’s the only possible explanation I can think of, and it’s a hosed up one.

It mostly means you're sexually attracted to children and, in real life, people aren't going to joke about it (unless it's some creep we're talking about) . But being online makes people act in weird ways.

It's just that it gets somewhat normalized (specially online) by the ridiculous amount of pedobait material you can buy.

Also, for whatever its worth, girls are more likely to say they like the lolis or shotas. And in this case it may be that they just like cute things.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

She's no Ebisu but that's ok.

Her design is light-years ahead of the other girls

trucutru fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Sep 9, 2020

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Stink Billyums posted:

Tentacle girl has the same artist as the tentacle girl from Grand Order.

Multiple tentacle girls from GFO :eng101:

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Tabletops posted:

I've kind of wondered how many idol group people end up in same sex relationships out of necessity rather than preference in japan. Since you can basically lose everything if some nerd stalks you and finds out you have a boyfriend or whatever.

Marine talked a little bit about everyone in her all girl christian high school basically doing that because it was impossible to meet boys.

Are we talking about real-life idols? They barely have time to sleep, never mind having relationships, same-sex or otherwise.

And let's just say that their managers are very crafty

https://japantoday.com/category/entertainment/3-ways-the-japanese-entertainment-industry-keeps-idol-singers-from-dating

This blurb is particularly funny to me

quote:

So when hiring hairstylists and makeup artists, certain talent agencies choose handsome young men for the job, which they feel gets their idols’ hearts ever so slightly aflutter before they go on stage. But wait, isn’t there a chance that the hairstylists will fall in love with the idols? Not if the men are gay, which is another characteristic some agencies look for when choosing who to handle their idols’ appearance.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
So there was something like regular farting pikachu and then drunk farting pikachu?

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Cappy posted:

I haven't been paying much attention to them, but I feel like the only 5th gen I care about is Botan, mostly because she actually has an interest in something (pcmasterrace). Do the other 4 3 have something going for them from that angle or do they mostly just play Fall Guys and Minecraft?

They others are not supposed to be gamers so they just play whatever games are popular for streaming purposes since they are a good, easy way to create content. Besides that it's still a bit to early to tell since they are still playing their intended character so who knows how are they going to develop.

Polka is a bit too overengineered with the props, noises, and other "forced" stuff (I guess I don't like her gimmick) so I don't enjoy her channel that much. But she's smart and has experience so I bet she'll improve her act quite a bit.

Lamy is kinda stuck on her nice mama character.

Nene is dumpling lady and about as interesting as a dumpling.

Give them time and some collabs with the Gens 3 & 4 to evolve their chars.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I have been watching Coco streams lately and drat, she's the nerd-whisperer, a true wallet-milking virtuoso. She already has like a billion different little rituals among her viewers where they give her a little bit of extra cash. Even the other girls with lots of super-chat action (like Rushia, who is also drat good at that) get a bit confused when the tatsunokos arrive. Why are they donating? why is the chat blue? what is happening here?

And the most amazing thing is that it's all pretty organic, it's not like she has a formula to get the SCs, it all comes naturally.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Oh, and here is Okayu singing Flamingo (I really like her voice)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rWFnyDLxo

while Pekora sings "Flemongo" (I really like her comedy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEPt6P8xxXg&t=8s

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Stink Billyums posted:

After all that Death Stranding she wanted to build a voidout in Minecraft

Yeah, Pekora has been building "Sora" mountain for a while now. The idea is to build a gigantic TNT trap that will create a voidout. Apparently she did get permission from Sora-senpai to use her name to drive curious people away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP5ZkrU8wvQ

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Sindai posted:

If you aren't watching Coco's english karaoke stream you're missing her singing scatman

I don't think you can call what Coco does "singing" but yeah, it's pretty fun.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
It's going to be hard to beat this dumbass shark

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
This shark pretty much just winged it during her debut stream and it worked perfectly.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

JazzFlight posted:

One more favorite Korone vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEQDRu8HY2g

She's just so freaking adorable.

Korone is basically cuteness incarnate and it's even funnier because she often says or does the weirdest poo poo in the most ridiculous cute way.

My favorite is still Pekora because I like how just throwing her into any collab means quality content.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Buddha Fett posted:

I formally submit Holmies for Watson's crew nickname.

The hounds


Tabletops posted:

Holohouse kinda scares me. Bunch of babies who've never lived on their own (at least afaik w/ Kanata and a lot of the other younger talent). I think what scares me the most is coco taking on a lot of financial risk. If hololive tanks or viewers move on Id be worried. Seems a bit fast but idk.


Also little sad that Pekora hasn't done any offline collabs w holohouse stuff. Id never expect her to move in given she's uhh a bit of a hikki lol but she's been great in the few she's done before.

Are we talking about financial risk in the context of the same Coco that happened to mention that she slept on a futon and then had to go buy the most expensive bed she could find because she was showered in money?

Marine will probably convince Pekora to do some hololive stuff soon. She's nice like that

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Ashtarath posted:

man when i said there was two hachamas i wasnt ready for this much

the feet gave it away.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
And If shark girl doesn't try to grab a bite of some chicken or octopus during the collab I'll be disappointed.

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trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Haha, Kiara doesn't know how roosters are supposed to sound in English. Kikiriki indeed.

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