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Doltos posted:Only in TFF can someone defend a 190 yds 2 ints 4 sack performance as passing all over a team, especially when one of the TDs came from a dump off. I did not say that. I said the Giants defense right now is at best equal to the average defense Mitch has faced in his few years of starting. Mitch had his average game. Since Mitch is a below average QB, letting him have his average game against you is not a strong definition of success.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I've been a Dak doubter for a long time. I still don't think he's as good as Romo, but he's definitely a good to great QB. 100 percent 
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mikeraskol posted:Why would you hope for that when there’s two outstanding qb prospects in the draft that are already better than he could ever hope to be. Just cut bait on the fumbling doofus. I mean, like someone else already said, I'd want that if it wasn't impossible because of Gettleman. As a Giants fan, I've resigned myself to misery until Gettleman is out
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Sep 21, 2020 19:06
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He’s already on thin ice. There’s no way Gettleman will be back if we are picking that high.
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Boosh! posted:He’s already on thin ice. There’s no way Gettleman will be back if we are picking that high. I hope so
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gently caress the Cowboys. But Dak is a really good QB who is easy to discount because the coaching on the Cowboys sucks and can always be relied on to put their talent in the worst possible positions. He's deffo a top-10 qb. But gently caress the Cowboys.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I did not say that. I said the Giants defense right now is at best equal to the average defense Mitch has faced in his few years of starting. Mitch had his average game. Steelers defense gave up 279 yards, 2 tds, and 2 ints to Jones. He's a below average to bad QB. Steelers defense is widely considered a top 10 defense. The Giants have a good defense. Field position and constant 3 and outs matter.
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Doltos posted:Steelers defense gave up 279 yards, 2 tds, and 2 ints to Jones. He's a below average to bad QB. Steelers defense is widely considered a top 10 defense. Jones averages 236 ypg, 1.7 td/g, and 1 int. The steelers put up a worst performance against the giants than the average opponent Jones has faced. We're only two games into the season, but they didn't look great against Jones (compared to his average performance) and gave up 21 points to the Broncos as well. Jones does not have a full season worth of starts yet, though, so his averages are probably not representative long term. The Giants defensive performance yesterday was roughly the average defense that Mitch has faced over 53 games. As the Bears have been, not good, over that timeframe, they haven't exactly been slated against the best defenses in the league routinely. Your defense might look alright next week against a very injured 49ers team, but I think you're going to get blown out badly by the Rams in two weeks. Giants defense on the year is probably going to end up ranked around 18-20.
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I love everything about the Giants/Eagles/Team so long as they lose, so that makes the division good
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Shinjobi posted:I love everything about the Giants/Eagles/Team so long as they lose, so that makes the division good t 
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Mr. Nice! posted:Jones averages 236 ypg, 1.7 td/g, and 1 int. The steelers put up a worst performance against the giants than the average opponent Jones has faced. We're only two games into the season, but they didn't look great against Jones (compared to his average performance) and gave up 21 points to the Broncos as well. Jones does not have a full season worth of starts yet, though, so his averages are probably not representative long term. So using that logic are the Steelers playing up or down to what people assume, or is Mitch playing up or down to what people assume. Throwing for average means nothing. Mitch routinely goes up and down from his average against a variety of teams. What does matter is that he threw 28 times and only got 190 yards, one of them being a big dump off run. The Giants defense performed well to great. If they end up 18-20 it's because of the offense, much in the same way offenses can get screwed over or put up more stats depending on their defense.
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I personally love the realization that all 4 teams are loving awful but the Cowboys activated the latent NFCE genes that lay dormant inside the Atlanta Falcons in order to steal a win. The clownball's will be done.
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the Giants defense is good. it's just a shame that the offense is so bad it looks meh
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Doltos posted:I just want Febreeze to admit that the Giants defense is actually good and Mitchell Trubisky did in fact not pass all over them. They played the Bears and let him march down the field in the first half. Montgomery pushed them around. They tightened up the second half for sure, but lets not pretend shutting down the Bears is a noteworthy feat. I was more impressed by their performance last week against the Steelers, though for an entire quarter Big Ben looked completely rusty and they broke it open later. I'm not sold on this defense. I would have said that next week against the 49ers would be the big test, but now half that team is dead so I won't be surprised if they look okay against Nick fuckin Mullens. Bradberry was worth it though, he rules. The D-line has gotten more pressure than none, which is what I expected so that's been a decent uplift. Being better than expected doesn't make them good.
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Sep 21, 2020 22:45
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How can a group of that many hogmollies possibly be bad
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Carson Wentz and Dwayne Haskins ranked #31 and #32 in QBR after 2 weeks. Jesus Christ.
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BiggerBoat posted:Carson Wentz and Dwayne Haskins ranked #31 and #32 in QBR after 2 weeks. and Josh Allen is 4th, and Drew Brees is 17th, Tom Brady and Kirk Cousins are 30 and 31 - lets all slow tf down through only 2 weeks.
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Sep 22, 2020 14:07
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Dak Prescott has not thrown an interception since Nov. 28, 2019.
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Ball went around 50 yards in the air (from 18 yard line to 32 yard line) and Dak threw it knowing he was about to take a hit. It's a great pass and an amazing catch by cooper.
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quote:This was one for the record books and one for the Dak Prescott supporters’ scrapbooks. The numbers are the numbers, but honestly, this is also one for those who don’t think Prescott can play the position at a level where he can determine games. If you [the "eye-test" people] can watch some of the top-level games that he has produced — especially since 2018 — and not see his quality, then I propose that it might not be something you are capable of detecting at this point.
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Me: getting in those comments to fist fight each person that talks poo poo about romo
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What vaunted defenses Romo slaughtered like the 2012 Redskins
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That Broncos game in 2013 was one of the greatest offensive football games I’ve ever seen.
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lol at those sacks. My favorite game was that broncos game on there. (still lost)
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Its a fun stat, but not very meaningful. Those games for Romo were games with lots of turnovers and sacks, and where the Defense gave up 30+ points, and he had to throw a ton to try to keep the team in the game. The yardage totals there are more a reflection of the game state. Only the ATL and PHI games were like that for Dak (where they went 1-1), the other 3 were just Dallas absolutely trouncing the opposing team.
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Daks team probably averages a hundred more rushing yards in those games
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Professor of Cats posted:lol at those sacks. That was what finally turned me against the average "Cowboys Fan". Romo loving puts up 5 touchdowns, 500 (!!) yards, completes 70 goddamn % of his passes, still takes 4 sacks, and everyone bitches about the lone interception he threw. "gurr gurr he threw it when the game was on the line dughh hurr." THE GAME IS ALWAYS ON THE LINE. 48 POINTS SHOULD ALWAYS WIN THE GAME, IF IT DOESN'T YOU CAN BLAME YOUR DEFENSE.
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Raku posted:Daks team probably averages a hundred more rushing yards in those games Something like that: Only the Redskins game with Romo had at least 100 (exactly) rushing yards. In contrast, Dak teams rushed for - 142 against Philly - 122 against GB(Loss) - 125 against ATL And <100 in the other 2 games.
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Michael Lombardi: Carson Wentz needs to improve, but also needs better talent around himquote:Wentz has not been the same since the knee injury he suffered at the end of the 2017 season, when he was playing at an MVP-caliber level.... quote:The Eagles in 2017 had the seventh-most third downs in all of football. They were the only playoff team in the bottom third of that category, yet they were the best team in the NFL at converting third-and-long.
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friendly reminder, I have at least one month-long trial subscription to The Athletic left to give out, if anyone is interested.
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blarzgh posted:That was what finally turned me against the average "Cowboys Fan". Romo loving puts up 5 touchdowns, 500 (!!) yards, completes 70 goddamn % of his passes, still takes 4 sacks, and everyone bitches about the lone interception he threw. Actually, same. many dumb bar arguments defending Romo and I can't tell you how many times I heard "he wasnt clutch enough"
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blarzgh posted:friendly reminder, I have at least one month-long trial subscription to The Athletic left to give out, if anyone is interested. I am!
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Sent! Just checked, I have 2 left now
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I remember early 2010s with radios and bars filled with "WE NEEDTA GET A TOM BRADY OR A PEYTON HERE IN DALLAS. ROMO AIN'T CLUTCH." Beep boop. So simple. Just go....get a Peyton Manning. Also lmfao the masterpiece of Romo's career is his playing a perfect loving game in Lambeau against the Packers in the playoffs, only to have his RB and WR drop the ball literally and figuratively. His defense coming up short was always expected.
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Shinjobi posted:I remember early 2010s with radios and bars filled with "WE NEEDTA GET A TOM BRADY OR A PEYTON HERE IN DALLAS. ROMO AIN'T CLUTCH." Peyton: 2-4 Rodgers: 1-5 Wilson: 0-3 Brady: 2-2 Brees: 0-3 Montana: 0-3 Favre: 0-7 These are the all-time greats playoff records when their Defense allows 30 or more points. Edit: Holy poo poo, in all the Playoff games Tom Brady has ever played in, Belichick's defenses have only allowed 30+ four times blarzgh fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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Dak is good, as blarzgh likes to consistently remind us all with his Cowboy Stats Boners. At this stage of their careers, he's clearly ahead of Wentz who just looks positively lost and is regressing by the week. I was talking about JAX (who everyone had ranked #32 going in) in the AFCS thread - trying to pick the shittiest team in the league so far - and I have NYJ, NYG, CAR, CIN, DET and WAS in that order But gently caress me if the Eagles don't fit in there somewhere (probably #5 or 6), especially since Washington kicked their rear end. Would not shock me at all to see Hurts in a game before week 8 if this continues. Right now, the birds would be lucky to get a 4th rounder for Carson, who looks like complete poo poo. I thought he looked bad last year but everyone blamed it on the WR's getting decimated (which is fair I guess). But he's running out of excuses and the fan base is turning on him.
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