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PMush Perfect posted:How many deaths did it take from you failing to hit basic enemies before you managed to get a recording of one where it totally wasn't your own fault? That's not my recording because I personally have never died in this game. Instead I simply used my pro gaming skills to intuit that the whip hitbox is actually hosed and only half the displayed size. Anyways have fun posting with the only other two people in the world who think this game is fun, can't imagine why this thread is a loving ghost town.
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Nanomashoes posted:That's not my recording because I personally have never died in this game. Instead I simply used my pro gaming skills to intuit that the whip hitbox is actually hosed and only half the displayed size. Anyways have fun posting with the only other two people in the world who think this game is fun, can't imagine why this thread is a loving ghost town. Have fun lurking in the threads for games you hate just to win internet arguments.
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Glare Seethe posted:Hmm, endgame question: Both.
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Kiranamos posted:It’s a 2D platformer, not Dark Souls hitbox porn if the whip went away as soon as the active frames were done it would look a bit jerky, so it stays out a bit longer. but it would also look a bit weird if you could hit an enemy after the actual whipping motion was done. so the whip has a couple recovery frames at the end.
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Nanomashoes posted:That's not my recording because I personally have never died in this game. Instead I simply used my pro gaming skills to intuit that the whip hitbox is actually hosed and only half the displayed size. Anyways have fun posting with the only other two people in the world who think this game is fun, can't imagine why this thread is a loving ghost town. This thread is frequently rude and multiple posters seem really weirdly defensive about the game. Not sure why, I guess Spelunky 2 attracts a certain personality?
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Finally got the last item done out of the journal for the full spelunky. 55599988 might be a fairly good seed for a couple different challenges
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Nanomashoes posted:That's not my recording because I personally have never died in this game. Instead I simply used my pro gaming skills to intuit that the whip hitbox is actually hosed and only half the displayed size. But instead of taking 5 seconds to check and find out that the whip hitbox is in fact as long as it should be, you decided to talk poo poo for no reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl7GB_RWpRg&t=33s Like I said, there's a couple recovery frames at the end of the animation, because it would look weird if the whip did damage while no longer moving. That's why that attack whiffed in the clip you posted. Also, there's a bit of leniency near the start of the animation: the full length of the hitbox is active before the whip has actually reached out to its full length, which you can see in my video there. Which makes it easier to hit enemies quickly. Escape Goat posted:This thread is frequently rude and multiple posters seem really weirdly defensive about the game. Not sure why, I guess Spelunky 2 attracts a certain personality?
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Escape Goat posted:This thread is frequently rude and multiple posters seem really weirdly defensive about the game. Not sure why, I guess Spelunky 2 attracts a certain personality?
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idk I love/hate this game but the whip is definitely doodoo unless you hit something on the backswing or get a better method of attack 
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its probably just better to time your attacks by walking into an enemy at the apex of its swing
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I personally never use the backwhip
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IronicDongz posted:I personally never use the backwhip Join ussssss. The backswing is really good especially if stuff is above you.
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IronicDongz posted:I personally never use the backwhip It’s kinda insanely good, like frustratingly so
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Actuarial Fables posted:Both. Ah, thanks. I was hoping Lahamu was optional, but I guess not! First time there I had the ghost on my tail throughout so I couldn't look as thoroughly as I'd have liked, and on my subsequent attempts I just died. I'll remedy this today hopefullly. resistentialism posted:Finally got the last item done out of the journal for the full spelunky. Congrats! I'll check out this seed, don't mind stacking the odds a little bit in my favor. I assume you can unlock journal entries in seeded runs.
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Jolo posted:Join ussssss. The backswing is really good especially if stuff is above you.
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I'm the opposite and almost exclusively use the backswing. If something's low enough that I can hit it with the forward swing I'll just stomp it instead, so the backswing covers all the things that approach you at awkward angles from above.
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resistentialism posted:55599988 might be a fairly good seed for a couple different challenges Oh my god. I was on 6-3, riding Qilin and holding the Eggplant Child. Tried to fire at an Olmite, which tossed EC all the way across the level instead.  Did not survive. I want to scream. But you're right, this is an excellent seed. I will try it again.edit: Made it. Oh my god, again.  to all of that. Got knocked onto spikes on 7-4 by a frog.  99 health and the eggplant crown not gonna help me there!!edit2: In hindsight it now occurs to me that killing Hundun with the eggplant crown might have done something? Maybe I shouldn't be laughing at myself for dying moments from the finish line on that run. Perhaps unlocked an item? Even though there'd be no point cause you're done with the run at that stage. Hopefully I don't have to do this again, although frankly I wouldn't mind visiting that area again some time. Sway Grunt fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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the only thing backwhip isn't better for than regular whip is that if an arrow trap is too close and it's coming from below you won't be able to whip the arrow away, but in those situations you're usually using a rock or something instead
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If you crouch+attack while riding a mount you'll get the mount to do it's thing even if you're holding an item. Try it while riding a mech, too.
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Escape Goat posted:This thread is frequently rude and multiple posters seem really weirdly defensive about the game. Not sure why, I guess Spelunky 2 attracts a certain personality? yes we're being defensive. we definitely aren't just laughing at the salty nerds who are so fuckin mad that they make illogical drive-by hateposts in the thread of a silly cartoon video game, all because they are not very skilled at said game
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resistentialism posted:If you crouch+attack while riding a mount you'll get the mount to do it's thing even if you're holding an item. Try it while riding a mech, too. Good to know. To be honest I just wasn't thinking when I did what I did. My second time around I didn't even bother engaging that one enemy. Should I run that seed again by the way to kill Hundun with eggplants? Does that do anything for the journal or am I good? I'm almost certain I got everything from the Eggplant World itself.
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Nah the purple secret stuff ends on that special level, thought it's generally pretty useful in the CO. (Not that I've gotten there with it myself.)
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That's a bit of a relief. Yeah I don't know that I'd want to try and juggle quite that many things at once to try and take it into the CO. By the way I appreciate you and everyone else answering my dumb questions in this thread. I could just look stuff up on the wiki but that's 100% guaranteed to spoil adjacent poo poo. It's kind of a delicate balance to get enough guidance so that I know there's at least a point to trying to accomplish these feats, but without spoiling the results or knowing too much. The game is difficult enough that I'd hate to laboriously struggle to do something over a period of time and then find out it wasn't even anything meaningful at all. I did that for the first 120 hours or so and am glad for it - even Olmec's second phase was a really fun surprise - but I'm definitely past the point of random experimentation. I want to get stuff done. I'm probably too precious about avoiding spoilers in general, but still. edit: Speaking of... can I get a small hint for 5-1? I blew up the entirety of Lahamu's lair with the alien blaster and killed everything in it that could be killed but didn't find anything that seemed like the next step... I mean there's the blaster itself obviously, do I lug that into Neo-Babylon or something? I dropped it in order to keep the scepter (SC/CO wasn't in the cards anymore at that point). Still missing two items in the journal. Sway Grunt fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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So how exactly do you unlock seeded runs? The guides I've found seem incorrect. I have 18 of the total characters and I've beaten the normal ending of the game, but no seeded runs for me yet.
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Some number of character unlocks, then climb up to the surface in the camp and pick the little item up.
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That's what I've read, but as far as I can tell, I have all the characters that don't require getting to the sunken city and my camp still has not updated with the way up. I was hoping I could do seeded runs to help me reach the trickier areas of the game, but if I really need to unlock every character first then I might just give up or use a save editor or something. Count Mippipopolous fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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I got seeded runs with 17 characters, none from Sunken city. Have you cleared the game without using shortcuts?
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Glare Seethe posted:edit: Speaking of... can I get a small hint for 5-1? Sorry, I think my previous answer was way too ambiguous because there's nothing special to find in 5-1 that will help you in the cosmic ocean
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Glare Seethe posted:edit: Speaking of... can I get a small hint for 5-1? I blew up the entirety of Lahamu's lair with the alien blaster and killed everything in it that could be killed but didn't find anything that seemed like the next step... I mean there's the blaster itself obviously, do I lug that into Neo-Babylon or something? I dropped it in order to keep the scepter (SC/CO wasn't in the cards anymore at that point). Still missing two items in the journal.
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SeANMcBAY posted:So how do you guys think 2 compares to 1 now that its been out for a bit? I won't be playing it until the Switch release. It doesn't really add much of interest to the formula of Spelunky, especially in terms of builds and overall options for the player as they go through the game. It ends up being too long with overly strict requirements to make it to the lategame areas (which are quite obviously the 'intended path' rather than optional side areas) which results in runs that are much more monotonous than they should be. Its honestly quite ridiculous how little they really shake up the formula of the core platforming and embrace the nature of being a roguelike, for example I think they really should have had the different characters have different gameplay attributes to assist with replayablity (like so many other roguelikes like Nuclear Throne, Enter the Gungeon, Binding of Isaac etc...) but its purely aesthetic at the end. The different routes are nice, but don't change up the game that much, especially since they only last two worlds before reconverging in the Ice Caves, and personally I think its only really Volcana that brings in really new mechanics that are worthy of a sequel, the other stuff is still primarily rehashing stuff from the first game, I don't think it provides as much replayability as it could have. Overall the main thing it brings to the table is an absurd increase in difficulty, particularly the kind of difficulty I personally find extremely obnoxious like instant kills and long stuns that lead to heavy damage. People will argue that this was present in the first game, but I'd argue that its a matter of degree and what was previously a fun level of chaos in the first game goes way overboard here to the point that its not fun at all. They don't really give the player many buffs to correspond with said increase in difficulty so it feels like you are fighting against the typical Spelunky quirks (see all the discussion about how crappy the whip is) with an extra pile of additional poo poo on top. Spelunky 1 may have less content but I think its a much more streamlined and elegant game, for me anyway. Spelunky 2 primarily seems to exist to appeal to some ultra hardcore playerbase at the exclusion of everyone else. Apologies if I sound bitter, but it irks me how what feels like serious flaws with this game were mostly ignored by reviews and such and people are talking about the game as a stone cold classic when I really think it just isn't.
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PMush Perfect posted:You need to do something in Volcana 2-1, then find something else in the Temple 4-1 (usually?), and you'll get something that you'll use in the Ice Caves. If you already know that I mean the Alien Compass and you've already been to the Mothership, then there's nothing else for you there. I think my confusion is - does the Mothership = Lahamu's lair, aka the secret back area in 5-1 with the plasma cannon? I've been there. I thought the Mothership was at the end of the Cosmic Ocean. I guess I was working off a few assumptions: 1. The Alien Compass is supposed to help me navigate the CO to the Mothership. 2. There is no way I have to go through 95 levels of CO in a game that doesn't have Save & Quit. Shortcuts surely exist. Surely. 3. I'm on 54/56 Items in the journal, and the two missing items must have something to do with getting to the end. So since the Alien Compass only does anything special on 5-1 (other than pointing you to the normal exit/jelly in the CO, which I don't think the regular compass does) I thought it was pointing me at the next stage - i.e., at the next item that will help me find the special exits/shortcuts in the CO. But if there's nothing else at Lahamu's as you and Actuarial Fables say, then... Of course, any one of those assumptions could be wrong... :\ edit: I mean, I guess the Cosmic Ocean is not actually Space per se, so maybe it doesn't make sense for there to be an alien ship at the end.  I dunno.
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Spoilers for 5-1 secret area and final final area. The Mothership is the secret area in the Ice Caves there's not another one or a different one in the Cosmic Ocean. I don't think there's anything special there aside from the Queen, the Plasma Cannon, and the Shopkeeper Clones. No shortcuts through the CO beyond using the alien compass to know where each door is. The Cosmic Ocean just goes and goes until you get to 7-99. I don't want to spoil 7-99 but I'd just say to not get your hopes up. That final final area is somewhere I'd like to get to once, but it doesn't look interesting enough to try to do over and over. I think it's more for players that are determined to do the longest challenging run in the game.
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Hah, so all my assumptions were wrong. But at least it means I'm not missing anything. I actually really like the final final area, I found it super fun the few times I've been. I don't think I can make it to the end if there are no shortcuts, though, that's just way, way too much without the ability to quit and resume a run later. Good to know there's nothing super exciting at the end, at least. I guess the only mystery then is what those two missing Items are in my journal (entries 18 and 40), which are also the only entries I'm still missing - every other category is at 100%. The only thing I can think of that I haven't done is rob the Palace of Pleasure, and I'll do that when I go for the Millionaire achievement.
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yergacheffe posted:I got seeded runs with 17 characters, none from Sunken city. Have you cleared the game without using shortcuts? This ended up being the requirement. I hadn't realized the game made a distinction between using shortcuts or not for the normal ending.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga1rEwW_ifQ god drat
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Jeez, the ball bearings on that robot. And I thought it was hard enough doing it the intended way.
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Despite having mixed feelings on the initial launch and expecting multiplayer to suck I have to say: Online multiplayer is an absolute blast. Being able to split up makes it so much less of a chore. SeANMcBAY posted:So how do you guys think 2 compares to 1 now that its been out for a bit? I won't be playing it until the Switch release. Without online multiplayer, it added basically nothing and was worse in basically every way. Online multiplayer was a really good feature. Neo Babylon dark stages are still bad even in multi though since you can basically take two steps and a random UFO on the other side of the stage turned the entire place to rubble. IronicDongz posted:Or maybe multiple people have a weird loving antagonistic deal with this game, and people are defending it because it's actually just good. God loving forbid a video game be worth talking about but somehow less than perfect but better than dogshit. It genuinely is beyond my comprehension why people get so defensive about this. It's a popular game a lot of people were looking forward to. Get over yourself. Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Dec 31, 2020 |
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drat, I was all set to rob/ghost the PoP and get the Millionaire achievement but it didn't spawn, apparently because I'd killed Tusk on 4-1. Oops. What sucks is that I didn't even need to get her idol cause I had a skeleton key and didn't need Sparrow to unlock the backdoor to the palace. I could've totally just not done that. I ended with 475k and supposedly the PoP ghosted is worth 600k so the 40k from the idol wasn't necessary. Oh well. I might as well assume I would've died to the bodyguards or something like that, I guess. edit: What the hell, that wasn't even remotely 600k?? Lame. edit2: First time I got about 430k, second time just now I got 250k. Did they change the amount of loot since launch or is the wiki just plain wrong? I guess I'll bring the clone gun next time. Sway Grunt fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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Acerbatus posted:
People who invest a shitload of time into a game propped up by critics, streamers, and general internet consensus don’t like having their immense time investment sneered at by critique. Insecurity about your interests is a hell of a drug. Give it a year and the discourse will normalize.
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