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My parents were some of the last people to evacuate from Katrina and I still give them poo poo. You can hate and distrust the government all you want, but when mayors and governors are telling you to evacuate, that's not a trick. No one wants to be the Mayor of Amity and say the mega-fire or the Category 5 or the ultra-blizzard is no biggie then God takes a big poo poo on your state. Don't gently caress around unless you're mentally and spiritually prepared to find out.
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Zoesdare posted:Edit: Our sunsets have gotten very interesting with the prevailing winds from the west carrying so much smoke. Klyith posted:jesus christ there's been a high haze today in NY state, it's smoke all the way from the west coast? Yep, the photo above is what the evening sun looked like for at least the past two days where I live, which is about twelve miles west from the Vermont border. It reminded me of how in 1935 the director of the soon-to-be-defunded Soil Erosion Service managed to time an address to Congress with a massive dust storm's arrival in DC: quote:The group gathered at a window. The dust storm for which Hugh Bennett had been waiting rolled in like a vast steel-town pall, thick and repulsive. The skies took on a copper color. The sun went into hiding. The air became heavy with grit.
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Ugh our AQI was down to like 230 yesterday and now its bounced back up to 314 and rising. Why can't it gently caress off
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AQI where I am is right around the top of the scale. It smells like smoke indoors despite my air purifiers, my eyes hurt, and my CO2 sensor is reading >3000ppm due to the particles in the room Looking forward to getting some kind of disease from this.
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Malloc Voidstar posted:AQI where I am is right around the top of the scale. It smells like smoke indoors despite my air purifiers, my eyes hurt, and my CO2 sensor is reading >3000ppm due to the particles in the room Hell yeah it was like that here when it was nearly 600. Get some (not medicated) saline nasal spray and eye drops, it seemed to help my eyes and nose out a lot. Putting tape around potentially leaky windows also seems to help? At least when we're dying of lung gently caress we can be smug about not doing it to ourselves like those dirty smokers (unless you're a dirty smoker ofc)
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Telsa Cola posted:Soil is actually a pretty good insulator and heat transfer can be more of a function of how long the fire sticks in once place rather than intensity, Im trying to find exact numbers but If I remember correctly you're probably fine temperature wise at a pretty shallow depth. I once built a big bonfire on top of an underground hornet nest. I had enough brush to keep it burning for 5 hours. The next morning the hornets were flying in and out of the hole in the ash like it was just another Sunday morning.
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quote:It's a cool place, and they say it gets colder
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Malloc Voidstar posted:AQI where I am is right around the top of the scale. It smells like smoke indoors despite my air purifiers, my eyes hurt, and my CO2 sensor is reading >3000ppm due to the particles in the room Oh yeah. I got full blown bronchitis after I was at the Thomas fire. Imagine a Christmas Eve family dinner, with lobster, crab legs, and shrimp, and then imagine being so ill and exhausted that this seafood feast makes you want to puke.
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Isn't bronchitis viral?
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Sanctum posted:Isn't bronchitis viral?
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Sanctum posted:Isn't bronchitis viral? Anything that ends in "itis" means inflammation, and can potentially be caused by a number of pathogens or agents In this case it is the bronchial tubes of the lungs that become inflamed
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Speaking of not getting bronchitis, the AQI here is down to 21 today. A passing thunderstorm knocked a ton of particular matter out of the air. I'm honestly kinda wondering if we can continue to have a fire season into December. So much of CA has burned in the last several years that fire scars are everywhere, and while yes, they can still burn, they're never gonna burn as hot as they would without decades of fuel built up. I know from personal experience that the North Complex and the August Complex are burning into the fire scars of the Camp Fire and the Mendocino Complex respectively.
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 Cleared up a lot today, woke up gasping for air and had to slam a bunch of Bronkaid. Good news is thanks to the ephedrine in the stuff my house is super clean.
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Sep 19, 2020 06:05
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He's such a piece of poo poo
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Milo and POTUS posted:He's such a piece of poo poo Certainly makes News Radio a little harder to enjoy. Him and Andy Dick.
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So how dead and hosed are the forests expected to be after this is over? Anyplace done burning yet?
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Beachcomber posted:Certainly makes News Radio a little harder to enjoy. Him and Andy Dick. Andy Dick has probably caused less damage. Let that sink in
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VideoTapir posted:So how dead and hosed are the forests expected to be after this is over? Anyplace done burning yet? most plant life on the west coast evolved to survive fires
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naem posted:most plant life on the west coast evolved to survive fires brb, evolving into an ent
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naem posted:most plant life on the west coast evolved to survive fires
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VideoTapir posted:So how dead and hosed are the forests expected to be after this is over? Anyplace done burning yet? Fun fact, fires are a part of the life cycle of those forests Redwoods, for instance, cannot germinate without a fire
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Yes, It's a fire adapted ecosystem, but its not really adapted this level of intensity.
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VideoTapir posted:So how dead and hosed are the forests expected to be after this is over? Anyplace done burning yet? Grass lands: The grass will grow back, greener and brighter in the next year. Brush: Roughly 1-10 years of regenerative process, and it will return. Oak Forests: Fire ain't no thang man. An oak forest can completely burn to the dirt and still be back in the next half-century. Conifer forests: Depends on fire intensity. A super-hot crown fire will utterly wipe out a conifer forest, with a 95%+ mortality rate. Some conifer seed banks require fire to germinate, so they can fill the void, but a sufficiently destructive fire can set a conifer forest back for upwards of a century. In the meantime, other tree types will move in to fill up all that ecological space that just opened up. In a sufficiently destructive fire, ecological succession will mean that the forest can go through two to three centuries before it returns to the conifer forest it was. Adjacent stands of forest that didn't burn will also move into to fill the gap left behind, meaning you'll in-between types of landscape for many decades, with brush/oak mixes or oak/conifer mixes predominating in the landscape. I worked the Rim Fire burn scar in 2018, about five years after the fire. Most of the oaks had already resprouted, and were happy little bushes with dozens of stems. Conifer mortality in some stands was really bad, but the ones that survived were already surrounded by a sea of little saplings. Even in areas that had totally burned up, you'd find spots where there were so many Incense cedar saplings it looked like a lawn. Life in CA evolved with fire, with the ecological record telling of times when the Conifer forests extended far into the Valley, and of times when they were pushed back by fire to the higher parts of the mountains. The other key thing to remember about fire is that, in a sense, fire makes it super easy for the surviving life to thrive. The hard part of breaking down dead trees and brush is breaking down lignin (a molecule which Life itself didn't figure out how to break down for several hundred millions years after it became widespread, and the reason why we have oil and coal). When fire comes through a forest, suddenly the real hard part of decomposition (the breaking down of lignin and other assorted material) is already done for you. Which means that the soil is suddenly nutrient rich. With sufficient rainfall, what was once a blasted, charred black landscape becomes impossibly thick with brush and grass. A Festivus Miracle fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Sep 19, 2020 |
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Man reading that makes nuclear holocaust sound like a good thing.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Man reading that makes nuclear holocaust sound like a good thing. Are you patrolling the Mojave right now?
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Blind Rasputin posted:Man reading that makes nuclear holocaust sound like a good thing. The society of intelligent squids from the year 2,973,004,412 agree that the late-Cenozoic extinction of all land vertebrates was the key event in the eventual dominance of their clade. Many scientific debates question whether the sudden acidification of the oceans, which shell-less molluscs were also better adapted to, was directly related to the mass extinction on land, or just a "one-two tentacle grab" that coincidentally happened at the same time.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Man reading that makes nuclear holocaust sound like a good thing. Life, uh, finds a way
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We've been like that in Portland for a while now. Yesterday, the AQI was in the 90s. Today, the AQI is 24. Woohoo! Thank you rain.
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The view today near sunset on the East Coast, USA- all the way on the other side of the continent. I can actually smell the smoke https://i.imgur.com/HrIDGyn.mp4
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Klyith posted:The society of intelligent squids from the year 2,973,004,412 agree that the late-Cenozoic extinction of all land vertebrates was the key event in the eventual dominance of their clade. Many scientific debates question whether the sudden acidification of the oceans, which shell-less molluscs were also better adapted to, was directly related to the mass extinction on land, or just a "one-two tentacle grab" that coincidentally happened at the same time.
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Milo and POTUS posted:He's such a piece of poo poo
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Klyith posted:The society of intelligent squids from the year 2,973,004,412 agree that the late-Cenozoic extinction of all land vertebrates was the key event in the eventual dominance of their clade. Many scientific debates question whether the sudden acidification of the oceans, which shell-less molluscs were also better adapted to, was directly related to the mass extinction on land, or just a "one-two tentacle grab" that coincidentally happened at the same time. I sure hope they don’t find out about my nine inch logn penis
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naem posted:I sure hope they don’t find out about my nine inch logn penis Soft things don't fossilise.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Man reading that makes nuclear holocaust sound like a good thing. Life is very good at going "Uuhhhhhhh let me work on this and get back to you" in regards to adapting to poo poo.
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e: wrong thread I am DUMB
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Pretty much fled from a mandated evacuation zone today. Granted I was only passing through, but I did get emergency texts telling me to get specifically out of there immediately. An advancing hellworld of smoke in my rear view mirror and bright blue skies ahead of me.
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