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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
We're just a few hours away from what could be the weirdest NFL season of the 21st Century. They talked a big game about controlling the virus, and training camp test results have been mostly encouraging. But the real challenge is coming up as teams start traveling and some are even allowing fans into the building. There's definitely no way this can go wrong, no sir.

But despite all the uncertainty, we can at least count on some teams making GBS threads the bed and firing their coaches. To be honest, I wasn't sure how much mileage I'd get out of a hot seat thread this year, since it seemed pretty gauche to fire people in the middle of a pandemic. But the NBA has canned multiple people in the bubble and college football already fired a guy, so it looks like it'll be business as usual, for better or worse.

So welcome back to my annual hot seat thread! As always, I rank every coach in the league on a scale of Cool (nothing to worry about, at least for now), Mild (things can go sour quickly if the losses pile up), Moderate (they're in big trouble if they don't turn things around), and SPICY HOT (update those resumes!).

WEEK 17 FINALE

I was planning on getting this out earlier, but whoops, New Year’s day and a hangover happened, so better late than never. There are five jobs we know for sure are opening up, and potentially up to seven, though that’s more doubtful based on recent reports. Now that the firing is mostly done, we’re heading into the real interesting part of the coaching carousel. Once again, thanks to everyone for following this thread with me, and happy hiring season.

BACK IN 2021

Sean McDermott, Buffalo Bills
Bill Belichick, New England Patriots
Brian Flores, Miami Dolphins
Mike Tomlin, PIttsburgh Steelers
John Harbaugh, Baltimore Ravens
Zac Taylor, Cincinnati Bengals
Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland Browns
Mike Vrabel, Tennessee Titans
Frank Reich, Indianapolis Colts
Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs
Jon Gruden, Las Vegas Raiders
Vic Fangio, Denver Broncos
Mike McCarthy, Dallas Cowboys
Ron Rivera, Washington
Joe Judge, New York Giants
Matt LaFleur, Green Bay Packers
Mike Zimmer, Minnesota Vikings
Matt Nagy, Chicago Bears
Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints
Bruce Arians, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Matt Rhule, Carolina Panthers
Pete Carroll, Seattle Seahawks
Sean McVay, Los Angeles Rams
Kliff Kingsbury, Arizona Cardinals
Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco 49ers

FIRED!

Bill O’Brien, Houston Texans (interim coach: Romeo Crennel)
Dan Quinn, Atlanta Falcons (interim coach: Raheem Morris)
Matt Patricia, Detroit Lions (interim coach: Darrell Bevell)
Adam Gase, New York Jets
Doug Marrone, Jacksonville Jaguars
Anthony Lynn, Los Angeles Chargers
Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles

New Head Coaching Jobs

Atlanta Falcons: Arthur Smith (Titans OC)
Detroit Lions: Dan Campbell (Saints TEs coach)
Houston Texans: Dave Culley (Ravens WRs coach)
Jacksonville Jaguars: Urban Meyer
Los Angeles Chargers: Brandon Staley (Rams DC)
New York Jets: Robert Saleh (49ers DC)
Philadelphia Eagles: Nick Sirianni (Colts OC)

New GMs

Houston Texans: Nick Caserio
Denver Broncos: George Paton
Detroit Lions: Brad Holmes
Carolina Panthers: Scott Fitterer
Atlanta Falcons: Terry Fontenot
Washington: Marty Hurney
Jacksonville Jaguars: Trent Baalke

Benne fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jan 28, 2021

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Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Just put Stefanski on mild. Jimmy has no patience.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

How does Gase still have a job?

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
As much as I'd like Joe Judge fired (Or, ya know, never hired in the first place), he's likely as safe as a rookie head coach can be. Ben McAdoo was the only coach the Giants had since 1930 not to get two full seasons, and he was only the second one they ever fired mid-season due to the handling of the Eli situation while going 2-10. Unless Judge has one of the most spectacular meltdowns in NFL coaching history, he'll last the entire season, and likely be around into next year unless they also give Gettleman the boot and a new GM wants his own people, which sadly I don't think is particularly likely at the moment.

One thing that I was just reminded of in the n/v thread is there is gonna be an extra wild card in each conference now. I wonder how that will factor in to the future of some of the normal hot seat guys down the line. I can easily see it being spun in favor of guys getting in who otherwise wouldn't have in the past, or maybe getting some people in hotter water if not fired if they don't make it...

fartknocker fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Sep 10, 2020

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Silly Burrito posted:

How does Gase still have a job?

Peyton Manning

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you

Silly Burrito posted:

How does Gase still have a job?

He has the old GM as a partial scapegoat + first year grace period

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
I really don't think Lynn is in any danger this year regardless of the outcome. Next year is a different story though

a patagonian cavy
Jan 12, 2009

UUA CVG 230000 KZID /RM TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BENGALS DYNASTY
zac taylor should be mild imo

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
BOB is never moving on this list just lmao

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp
please god let matt patricia be fired as soon as physically possible

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
I paid minimal attention to the Lions this offseason, and might not even watch them this fall, but I'm like 90% sure Martha Ford will give Patricia another free roll due to pandemic chaos unless he goes 0-fer.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp

C-Euro posted:

I paid minimal attention to the Lions this offseason, and might not even watch them this fall, but I'm like 90% sure Martha Ford will give Patricia another free roll due to pandemic chaos unless he goes 0-fer.

Fun fact, Martha isn't in charge anymore! Instead it's her daughter Sheila, who I'm sure will be the one to finally guide this franchise into...

yeah

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


With firings, come hirings. Top head coaching candidates for 2020.

Analysis @ article, just listing the names here:

quote:

THE TOP CANDIDATES:

Robert Saleh, defensive coordinator, San Francisco 49ers
Eric Bieniemy, offensive coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs
Brian Daboll, offensive coordinator, Buffalo Bills
Matt Eberflus, defensive coordinator, Indianapolis Colts
Nick Siriani, offensive coordinator, Indianapolis Colts
Wink Martindale, defensive coordinator, Baltimore Ravens
Greg Roman, offensive coordinator, Baltimore Ravens
Byron Leftwich, offensive coordinator, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

quote:

SECOND-CHANCE CANDIDATES WITH UPSIDE

Leslie Frazier, defensive coordinator, Buffalo Bills
Steve Spagnuolo, defensive coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs
Dennis Allen, defensive coordinator, New Orleans Saints
Jay Gruden, offensive coordinator, Jacksonville Jaguars
Josh McDaniels, offensive coordinator, New England Patriots
Todd Bowles, defensive coordinator, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Jason Garrett, offensive coordinator, New York Giants
Raheem Morris, defensive coordinator, Atlanta Falcons
Jim Schwartz, defensive coordinator, Philadelphia Eagles

quote:

THE YOUNG GUNS

Anthony Weaver, defensive coordinator/defensive line, Houston Texans
Mike LaFleur, passing game coordinator, San Francisco 49ers
Mike McDaniel, running game coordinator, San Francisco 49ers
Mike Kafka, quarterbacks coach/passing game coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs
Kellen Moore, offensive coordinator, Dallas Cowboys
Tim Kelly, offensive coordinator/quarterbacks, Houston Texans
Arthur Smith, offensive coordinator, Tennessee Titans
Jerrod Mayo, inside linebackers coach, New England Patriots

quote:

DON’T COUNT OUT

Joe Woods, defensive coordinator, Cleveland Browns
Dave Toub, special teams coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs
John Fassel, special teams coordinator, Dallas Cowboys

quote:

THE COLLEGE CROWD

Lincoln Riley, head coach, Oklahoma
Brent Venables, defensive coordinator, Clemson
Pat Fitzgerald, head coach, Northwestern
Dan Mullen, head coach, University of Florida

quote:

FUTURE NAMES TO WATCH
A few final names to keep an eye on:

Patrick Graham, defensive coordinator/assistant head coach, New York Giants
Press Taylor, passing game coordinator/QB coach, Philadelphia Eagles
Scott Turner, offensive coordinator, Washington Football Team
Brandon Staley, defensive coordinator, L.A. Rams
Kevin O’Connell, offensive coordinator, L.A. Rams
Brian Callahan, offensive coordinator, Cincinnati Bengals
Shane Waldron, passing game coordinator, L.A. Rams
Rich Scangarello, offensive analyst, Philadelphia Eagles
Jake Peetz, quarterbacks coach, Carolina Panthers
Joe Brady, offensive coordinator, Carolina Panthers
Josh McCown, quarterback (practice squad), Philadelphia Eagles
Matt Campbell, head coach, Iowa State University
Richard Hightower, special teams coordinator, San Francisco 49ers
Phil McGeoghan, wide receivers coach, L.A. Chargers

Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

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I don’t like Brian Daboll, but Sean McDermott would probably manage to hire some one worse.
If Josh Allen actually does take the next step, Daboll will have the magic aura of “QB guru” to go with being associated with Bellichick(which is somehow still not a red flag) and is also white, so he could be a hot candidate.
Conversely, Leslie Frasier is a black DC, so I assume he won’t get more than a Rooney rule interview or two, regardless of merit.

Doctor Teeth
Sep 12, 2008


i'm surprised to see toub there. feels like his bandwagon died down a few years ago

Magicpants
Sep 15, 2011


Certified Poster

SKULL.GIF posted:

Dave Toub, special teams coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs

I guarantee someone will hire Dave Toub, only because he has the perfect name for an sports trivia question, like who's the only nfl coach to be fired before the start of their first season

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Wait, why would the DC for the Falcons warrant any consideration at all?

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







rivera should be mild because he could conceivably die

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Bieniemy and should Tampa look good Leftwich will likely get jobs.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Quiet Feet posted:

Wait, why would the DC for the Falcons warrant any consideration at all?

He spent the last 5 years as an assistant head coach... and WR coach/passing game coordinator? Now I’m confused by him switching between offense and defense, but I have heard his name pop up a few times since Tampa fires him an eternity ago for letting players spend too much time playing Call of Duty...

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

I think we're going to see a lot of teams stick with their lovely Head Coaches at the end of the season.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
I'd give Taylor a short leash this season but I don't see Mike giving him less than 3 years.


Players rave ablut him but I don't get why.

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

SKULL.GIF posted:

With firings, come hirings. Top head coaching candidates for 2020.

Analysis @ article, just listing the names here:

I love that Steve Spagnuolo went from people in the AFC West thread unironically calling him a downgrade from Bob Sutton to a second-chance coaching candidate in one season

Doctor Teeth
Sep 12, 2008


Power of Pecota posted:

I love that Steve Spagnuolo went from people in the AFC West thread unironically calling him a downgrade from Bob Sutton

:stare: :stare: :stare:

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Lance of Llanwyln posted:

I don’t like Brian Daboll, but Sean McDermott would probably manage to hire some one worse.
If Josh Allen actually does take the next step, Daboll will have the magic aura of “QB guru” to go with being associated with Bellichick(which is somehow still not a red flag) and is also white, so he could be a hot candidate.
Conversely, Leslie Frasier is a black DC, so I assume he won’t get more than a Rooney rule interview or two, regardless of merit.

Leslie Frasier already had his chance to be a horrible HC.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




No one’s getting fired ‘cuz the season’s going to shut down by week 6.

Everyone’s getting a mulligan.

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
Another year of gase 🙏🙏🙏

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!
SECOND-CHANCE CANDIDATES WITH UPSIDE
Jason Garrett

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

SECOND-CHANCE CANDIDATES WITH UPSIDE
Jason Garrett

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

SECOND-CHANCE CANDIDATES WITH UPSIDE
Jason Garrett


Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Jason Garrett will have learned at the feet of Joe Judge of the Bill Belichik tree. Between that coaching both Dak and Romo he'll get a serious look if the giants manage mediocrity.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
If there's one thing Jason Garrett is good at it's kissing the owner's rear end, I fully expect him to at least get interviews again.

Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

GIVE ME MORE
SUPER BOWL
WINS

Benne posted:

If there's one thing Jason Garrett is good at it's kissing the owner's rear end, I fully expect him to at least get interviews again.
I could definitely see him becoming a discount Norv type who inexplicably gets job after job because he knows everyone and they all think he's such a great guy.
Or like an Adam Gase who isn't an insufferable rear end to everyone not named Peyton Manning.

Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

asdfghjklpoiuyt
Garrett has “Guy brought in to clean up a flaming garbage fire then getting fired within 2 years for a good coach to take the team over the top” energy.

So 2022 Jacksonville maybe?

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







If Jerry Richardson was still in Carolina, he would have hired Garrett.

Durandal1707
Oct 11, 2013

a neat cape posted:

I really don't think Lynn is in any danger this year regardless of the outcome. Next year is a different story though

Yeah, I tend to agree with this. Last year can be pretty easily chalked up to Rivers being washed up and the defense being injured to all hell (and tbh I feel like Lynn would've switched to Tyrod at some point last year if it wasn't for Rivers' starting streak and his stature with the team). And if they play all of this year, it's pretty clearly going to be a rebuilding/transition season as they get Hebert ready for 2021 and see what's worth keeping on the roster.

zimbomonkey
Jul 15, 2008

Tattoos? On MY black quarterback?

FizFashizzle posted:

If Jerry Richardson was still in Carolina, he would have hired Garrett.

Stop it

I know its true but it doesn't need to be said.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Does Gase even make it to October at this rate

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

Wrong thread

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FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Benne posted:

Does Gase even make it to October at this rate

if gase got off the plane and was murdered no charges would be brought

im not sure anyone would be arrested

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