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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Achmed Jones posted:

the lighthouse kinda disappointed me,

lol the wife liked it enough to drag me to long island

i thought it was pretty good. there's some unnecessary bloat in there but otherwise well acted, directed, shot

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


lower decks is pretty good and funny

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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PokeJoe posted:

Lol, I watched quite a bit of insomniac

same. that show was pretty good for its time

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?



this is incredible

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


TOOT BOOT posted:

iTunes is having a pretty good sale on Star Trek TV right now, TNG and the remastered TOS are $29.99 each, for the complete series

strange new worlds seems okay from the pilot. i kinda use my wife as a trek barometer (since she works in tv and i used to), and she fell asleep on it, which is about par for mediocre-to-bad trek.

she also couldn't get through the voyager premiere four times after pushing for us to watch it (because it's the most popular, apparently) until i decided i wasn't going to put up with janeway just so she could catch a nap. discovery was also sleep-inducing and we gave up like midway through season 3 because holy poo poo it is bad.

still infinitely better than the horrified reaction we both had to picard though. jfc, patrick stewart is too old to be wasted like this

i really don't get what the writers are doing. everything seems to be babbys first television script

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Chris Knight posted:

Mike from RLM said it best, imo: the writers are playing the telephone game and that's how the scripts get written.

it seems worse than that though, there's literally next to no consistency in action or motivation and characters frequently proclaim "I AM FEELING LIKE THIS" or "just in case you're a loving goldfish here's why we're doing x"

literally the only piece of new-trek i thought was genuinely good was the short treks ep "calypso", and unfortunately they went nowhere with the setup

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


mediaphage posted:

i thought snw do 1 was pretty good. imo most of the treks old and new are about on par except for picard for being bad and lower decks for being surprisingly good

lower decks is unfortunately pretty uneven but "i, excretus" should be required viewing for trek fans.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Cybernetic Vermin posted:

avatar being hugely successful while having no memorable part is to its credit, one of the last big movies before every scene had to be micro-optimized to make a good clip to post online.

avatar's novelization, dances with wolves, is extremely memorable

avatar is bad

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


FMguru posted:

it might be the best first episode of any trek series

(most trek shows take a while before they find their feet - if they ever do)

i liked it quite a bit - a lot of work and money was spent on the production design (and it showed), lots of easter eggs for horrible old trekkies (dr. mbenga! a saladin-class destroyer!), and the plot was as comfortable as a broken-in shoe

encounter at fartpoint is really not as bad as people make it out to be, and the cage is a classic. emissary has some weird directorial choices but it's mostly watchable; caretaker is unalloyed garbage

moving on, the vulcan hello was interesting but the resulting season was disappointingly dumb. lower decks' first ep almost made me ditch the series

e: beyond the farthest star is good for what it is.

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 20:48 on May 9, 2022

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


mediaphage posted:

i agree lower decks ep 1 wasnít great though i wonder if iíd like it now. i think i rank it so highly in part because i really really thought it was going to be just terrible and it isnít at all

yeah, same, i'll probably reevaluate at some point when i'm bored but if memory serves the second season is a massive improvement over the first by ditching a lot of the "lol look it's this thing from that show loool"

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Ornamental Dingbat posted:

Watched the 1st episode of that Mike Meyers Pentaverate show and it's pretty mediocre. Powerful Love Guru energy.

lol i haven't seen a single even slightly positive review of that. strap in buddy

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Beeftweeter posted:

encounter at fartpoint is really not as bad as people make it out to be, and the cage is a classic. emissary has some weird directorial choices but it's mostly watchable; caretaker is unalloyed garbage

moving on, the vulcan hello was interesting but the resulting season was disappointingly dumb. lower decks' first ep almost made me ditch the series

e: beyond the farthest star is good for what it is.

lol i was trying not to forget a series and,

broken bow was not good.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?



well, now i have

although it's kinda weird alot of the super annoying sounding things they highlight as positives were spotlighted as negatives in other reviews

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Ornamental Dingbat posted:

I wanted to give it a chance because I like Keegan-Michael Key but it just wasn't appealing at all to me.

i feel like the fact that mike meyers has had vanishingly few co-stars might be instructive here

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Analytic Engine posted:

Going to see this now, thnx.

Ben Rodgers is a writer on LD, one of the best comedians ~40y/o from NYC. He hosts the Patreon podcast Action Boyz along with Jon Gabrus and Ryan Stanger (two more of those guys), and has great guest spots on Comedy Bang Bang. He's the Gooniest non-poster non-programmer I've ever seen, with a jaded personality straight out of YOSPOS

Beeftweeter posted:

lower decks is unfortunately pretty uneven but "i, excretus" should be required viewing for trek fans.

it definitely has its moments. if you're on the fence the ep i mentioned is hilarious, but there is actually a legit storyline throughout the series too

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Truman Peyote posted:

i think one of the chris pine movies should really count as a wrath of khan remake

i'd be happy leaving it as a loop of rutherford's test from ^^

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Kazinsal posted:

fun fact, the writer of star trek into darkness is a 9/11 truther and that's why the uss vengeance (god drat what a stupid ship design) does a 9/11 on san francisco

this is true and lmao i forgot that dumb loving thing was called uss vengeance

that movie was entertaining but, again, ultimately stupid, just like most JJ Abrams Adventures

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


AnimeIsTrash posted:

Doing a rewatch of Vice Principals, going to watch Eastbound and Down next.

eastbound and down is great. it's simultaneously hilarious and depressing, and they do an excellent job of it

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Casual Encountess posted:

like everything post ds9 has been further and further back in the timeline besides like picard i guess. i watched two episodes each of all the modern trek shows before writing all of them off. lower decks was ok but im not getting paramount+ for it


the rest of modern trek is bad.

i watched a few episodes of discovery season 3 and it takes place in the 33rd (i guess?) century. it was also dumb and bad, so i stopped.

for example they co-opted the trills into something that can assimilate a human host with no problems at all, while maintaining the "symbionts are only for specials" poo poo they ditched in ds9. oh, also all dilithium everywhere exploded simultaneously, killing a ton of people and making warp a luxury because...?

i mean i never particularly liked the trill, and i find jadzia insufferable, but if you're going to adopt something from ds9 at least maintain some consistency about it

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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qirex posted:

also on a practical level it's much easier to re-use previous aliens, character design, etc. than making something new which means it takes less time which means it costs less

yet they keep loving changing them anyway. see also: TOS klingons, movie klingons, TNG klingons, jjtrek klingons, discovery klingons

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Endless Mike posted:

this is literally the overarching plot of the season. watch through and you'll find out why! but don't actually do this because it's not good.

yeah i can't say that didn't factor into my decision to stop. it seemed like a deus ex to make the federation fall apart and let me guess: of course discovery is there to save the galaxy and pull everyone back together in the end, convincing isolationist holdouts to join hands and jerk each other off

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


otoh tendi on lower decks having to help a klingon commit ritualistic suicide is one of my favorite sequences in all of trek. you must help me kill myself, i broke my back picking up a peanut

"that's it, call it. time of life: 0900."

NOOOOOOOO

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Ornamental Dingbat posted:

I really want to watch Lower Decks but don't want to pay for Paramount+ or whatever streaming service it's on.

i just keep re-upping the free trial. it's not hard to find codes that extend it to several months

e: after that you can link it to the apple tv app so you don't have to use paramount's hot garbage website

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 15:44 on May 10, 2022

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Achmed Jones posted:

yeah same, most of the stuff around the species itself isnt great, they were better without being fleshed out

we are enemies now

ezri > jadzia "bbbut CURZON" dax

i wouldn't have minded her so much if they gave her poo poo in her background that wasn't some character we only see as an extra once

[technobabble] benjamin, curzon. [technobabble] symbionts, [technobabble] klingon curzon. remember when we... oh, that was my other host, curzon.

yeah super compelling character

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


it's also not because they're trying to skirt licensing fees either, because cbs/paramount/viacom/whatever has basically owned the ip since they bought it from roddenberry

from the recent dumpster fire that's been called picard and discovery, though, i don't think they could actually get cheaper writers

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


infernal machines posted:

they suck, but i doubt it has anything to do with pay

TOS and TNG were build on spec scripts being put together by people used to being paid by the word, and edited sometimes while they were filming.

imo, the problem is the people writing for the new series seem to think they're writing prestige tv.

well yeah, i don't know how much the writers are actually paid, that was just a dig at what they should be paid, nothing

the problem seems more basic than that, and it's one that crops up repeatedly with new streaming shows: they just don't seem to know how to write scripts. if you're given a ten episode order, and you know this in advance, it should not be terrifyingly difficult to plot out how your story is going to unfold

having a dozen loose threads tie together within 25 minutes of one episode is how picard (both seasons) and discovery (i've only seen 1-2, part of 3) have ended things. in the middle you get a bunch of pointless bullshit that ultimately means nothing because it has no bearing on the main story, which is relegated to the backburner. stories don't work this way and it makes for lovely viewing.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


infernal machines posted:

yeah, again, this is very much the modern prestige tv formula. they're trying to write grand season long story arcs without having the chops to pace or structure their plot to the format, in a franchise that has historically been very episodic. they don't know how to do anything that isn't anguish and bombast dialed to 11, and fully 2/3rds of their plot threads are mystery box bullshit that exist only to serve one or two scenes before being abandoned

true enough, but it's been apparent for years that the formula just doesn't work well without a cohesive writing team and producers that are around long enough to see it through, or at the very least to hand the reigns to someone else under their tutelage. in trek terms, ds9 is very serialized, though, and doesn't suffer so. i mean there's definitely a bit of clunkiness in there, but it was essentially the first series (trek or otherwise) to do this, and it did it well

i think it'd be better to go back to an episodic/serialized hybrid format. lower decks and (although it remains to be seen fully) strange new worlds seem to be doing this. LD employs it well, but then again they only need to fit an A/B story loosely connected with the series arc within less than half an hour (and even then it's within the boundaries of animated comedy), so it's cheating a little. SNW will be a good benchmark

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


infernal machines posted:

none of it matters, because it's about the characters, man. unfortunately, the characters also suck because the only characterization they seem to come up with is "suffering severe personal trauma"

i missed this whilst effortposting and yeah, that's why i don't get how they hosed picard up so badly. the characters are (or at least should be) a known quantity. you want jean-luc to have some unresolved mommy problems? fine, but don't spend literally the whole season on it, particularly if it ultimately doesn't matter. riker and troi have a kid that died because androids? whatever. that shouldn't be the main reason the uss titan shows up to help picard, a man they're both intensely loyal to. i could go on and on but i think we've had enough of that

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Jonny 290 posted:

it was the same thing with tiger king.

peloton gang: omg have you seen this show? a stimulant-addicted gay redneck started up an illegal zoo and ended up murdering his neighbor over some tic-tacs

me: oh like i havent heard that one before

lol, i basically had the same conversation with a friend from a rez in NC near the border with TN. i was just like "dude you live on a reservation in the south literally none of this should be surprising behavior"

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


just sign up for the drat trial. the show isn't that long so even if you don't find something extending it a bit, it shouldn't take more than a week to get through. amex rewards also makes it effectively free, if you have an amex

e: including the incredibly obvious hint above (which i guess i shouldn't quote) it took me literally 30 seconds to find on loving archive.org. it's not that hard to find if you really, really don't wanna sign up.

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 05:50 on May 11, 2022

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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indigi posted:

Iím happy everyone here has new Star Trek to watch and enjoy/complain about

picard's strange new lower decks discovery is that it's poo poo.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Analytic Engine posted:

watch out fishmech, we've got a new Smartest Boy

did you consider that I spend hundreds on those subscriptions per month already, but their UX are all dog poo poo?

idgaf :shrug:

lol just lol if you can't find literally anything you want online for free, lmao lol

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?



yeah i'm sure the wachowskis didn't funnel their profits into crypto and that's definitely not the reason why they have to do a fire sale

Analytic Engine posted:

I might be misunderstanding you, my bad. That theoretical site (parody) loads mp4s directly, with super fast seeking and back/forth jumping, and has a library of everything except Disney. It is the best way to watch anything animated provided you don't care about super HD, and I (would, parodicly) use it despite paying for Paramount+. You could find garbage sites anywhere, but a clean central streaming location is rare, and U Block origin would (probably) totally handle any and all ads

true enough, but my point was more that anyone in the pos is probably good enough at :filez: to make it moot

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


also linking paramount to apple tv legit isn't awful, the ui is pretty bare-bones and you just get a dece quality HLS stream (i may have also captured and analyzed the streams)

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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45 years later, usenet still ftw.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


indigi posted:

thereís actually no way they could have lost enough money on crypto for them to resort to auctioning trinkets online. theyíre the kind of rich where you canít go bankrupt, they own lucrative capital that constantly prints them money

*checks box office receipts for the matrix resurrections, a steaming pile of cryptopunk horseshit*

ummm

surely these libertarian nerds didn't invest in crypto. certainly not.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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indigi posted:

that isnít even tangential to the point I was making but go off prince

their decades old "lucrative" ip that "prints money" definitely is still worth it, yet everything must go!

nothing to see here. totally normal.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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indigi posted:

I suppose the trans filmmakers with a history of trans advocacy may not send that money to the well known charities and nonprofits

this but unironically

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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The Fool posted:

I mean is there reason to think she is lying about where the funds are going? I don't understand any reaction to that tweet that isn't "huh, neat fundraising gimmick"

yeah man rich people totally don't lie about their charitable contributions, ever

idk maybe i'm too jaded from the horrifying hellscape the world has become, and don't get me wrong here: i'd actually love to be wrong on this

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

lol it must own so hard to be a writer for riverdale. everything i've heard about that show is just the most off the wall poo poo

surprise twist: the writers were GPT-3 all along

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