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Voodoofly posted:I'm already voting you for stupid day 1 reasons but Sire, I believe you have misunderstood my posts. I did not say that Spoons had over-explained. I just said it was strange to RNG his vote. Please, do check. I do understand your concern with my feelings on taste, however. So please vote based on the latter than the former. Thank you, good sir.
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Alternatively, should you believe that Spoons' RNG isnt scummy and want to vote someone who does, well, taste is likely one you should give some consideration
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Sep 25, 2020 21:33
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I note you haven't remarked on my last post, in your great fervor
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Sep 25, 2020 22:21
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Voodoofly posted:I'm already voting you for stupid day 1 reasons but its too late, ronnie is going down..
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Sep 25, 2020 22:28
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t a s t e posted:I note you haven't remarked on my last post, in your great fervor Sorry governor, I didn't realise you were actually waiting! It does help to clear things up a smidgen I think. To be clear, I don't have a clearcut case on you and I'm not pretending that I do. My vote is, as mentioned, purely based on gut feelings. Truth be told, noone strikes me as particularly scummy thus far.
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Sep 25, 2020 22:32
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Getting some chaos energy off of Cloner here
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Sep 25, 2020 22:43
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Life is waiting, I think. Thank you for your response.
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Sep 25, 2020 22:44
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Sandwolf posted:Getting some chaos energy off of Cloner here Cloner trying to deflect attention off on Spoones?
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Cloner of the Elks posted:Ah, but busses are by their nature deceitful. I remember a great bussing strategy back in '76 during Jury Duty. T'was quite spectacular! To circle back to this, IIRC Jury Duty '76 was a game with no NK whatsoever, and not a game where bussing would cut your NK power in half. Doesn't seem very similar (also JD76 had... half scums and people who became scums and doesn't seem to be a very reasonable comparison). I'm not saying anything is off the table, but "taste might be bussing spoonsy" is a very, very hard sell to me right now even as a remote suggestion.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:13
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Finally done with the workday ##vote spoon man
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My main thought so far is that Spoonsy has been weird, but the suspicion on him is what it is on day 1 voting rationale. If he gets a lunch day 1 i think that's just fine. However, Cloner's posts have also been weird as hell and i think there's a critical distinction: they've escalated weirder and weirder (within the scope of what's "weird" on day 1) as he attempted to justify his earlier posts. He's not copping to making bad leaps of logic or looking at changing his position based on new information Cloner of the Elks posted:To be clear, I don't have a clearcut case on you and I'm not pretending that I do. My vote is, as mentioned, purely based on gut feelings. Truth be told, noone strikes me as particularly scummy thus far. This just has "backpedal" written all over it, especially that bizarre last sentence. Of course nobody's particularly scummy on day 1. We're just voting based on hunches and how the wagons start/develop, along with laying the groundwork to go back and look at flips 2-3 game days from now. ##unvote ##vote Cloner of the Elks Retro Futurist posted:##vote spoonsy look the RNG knows best. Could you clarify what you're mean here? Did you mean to vote Sandwolf ("with the RNG") or did you RNG vote spoonsy? Or was this a joke or something and you were going along with the spoonsy vote put forth by others? What are your thoughts on the developments in general so far, RF?
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Spokes posted:My main thought so far is that Spoonsy has been weird, but the suspicion on him is what it is on day 1 voting rationale. If he gets a lunch day 1 i think that's just fine. so like............... you're scum right... just casually setting up a case on RF for tomorrow. I get it. No one wants to be on a town lunch. Its scary. But gosh golly.
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Toalpaz posted:so like............... RF has two game-relevant posts, one is a vote I didn’t understand (please fill me in since it’s so obvious) and one is a joke (?) cop claim. Doesn’t seem that ridiculous to hear something else from them before the day is out
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Sep 25, 2020 23:40
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Spokes posted:
Spoonsy said he did an RNG and it came us as himself. Rather than accept the rng's ruling he rerolled
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Retro Futurist posted:Spoonsy said he did an RNG and it came us as himself. Rather than accept the rng's ruling he rerolled Oh. Yeah, that makes sense lol. I got it. Thanks
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Sandwolf posted:Getting some chaos energy off of Cloner here Is that bad?
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Hal Incandenza posted:Is that bad? I don’t know yet Hal, what do you think about anything that’s happened yet?
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Spokes posted:
How are you seeing this as a back pedal? Cloner of the Elks posted:I must ask: Does anyone find themselves having a queer vibe from t a s t e? Cloner of the Elks posted:Okay fellows, I do hope this helps to explain my feelings. Methinks you have a terrible fakecase brewing and places you higher than my gut feeling on t a s t e. ##unvote ##vote Spokes
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Sep 26, 2020 00:19
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Sandwolf posted:I don’t know yet Hal, what do you think about anything that’s happened yet? Well you know I think this Spoonsy voting was bad news and you yourself are behaving in a way I don’t particularly like
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Sep 26, 2020 00:47
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Yes I can see also a vote of spokes, but is spokes a mafia veteran?
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Cloner of the Elks posted:How are you seeing this as a back pedal? There’s a lot of votes on Spoonsy that you’re deciding not to join—and that’s fine, I’m doing the same thing. But you seem determined to upgrade your jokevote on taste to something real based on nothing, and I still think your suggestion of a bus is absurd based on the game structure. But when challenged on it, you’re quickly retreating to “whoa, hey, it’s all just feeling and hunches, cmon let’s all be cool”
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Hal Incandenza posted:Well you know I think this Spoonsy voting was bad news and you yourself are behaving in a way I don’t particularly like okay well you’ve not described either why you dislike the Spoonsy vote or why you don’t like me, so this is starting to look like you avoiding proper content
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Sep 26, 2020 01:01
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Hal Incandenza posted:Yes I can see also a vote of spokes, but is spokes a mafia veteran? I’m not, I have played one game. But that game I was scum and dodged a lot of potential suspicion because I was new—I’d rather improve at the game than win so feel free to take the kid gloves off. If you think I’m suspicious then at least make it clear to me why, tia
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Sep 26, 2020 01:01
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Something is pinging me about spokes here Still think we should be lunching Spoonsy here
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Sandwolf posted:okay well you’ve not described either why you dislike the Spoonsy vote or why you don’t like me, so this is starting to look like you avoiding proper content Umm well I did because as I said I don’t think Spoonsy would really do that as scum and you were happy to just contentlessly vote him right as it happened In an easy and scummy way and frankly sir I don’t like your tone
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Sep 26, 2020 01:03
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Sandwolf posted:Something is pinging me about spokes here Which part of Spoonsys rng vote has you so riled up?
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Spokes posted:There’s a lot of votes on Spoonsy that you’re deciding not to join—and that’s fine, I’m doing the same thing. But you seem determined to upgrade your jokevote on taste to something real based on nothing, and I still think your suggestion of a bus is absurd based on the game structure. But when challenged on it, you’re quickly retreating to “whoa, hey, it’s all just feeling and hunches, cmon let’s all be cool” I see. Did you not read my posts prior to that saying I had bad vibes on taste? A gut feeling is just that - a gut feeling. I cannot make this any clearer, good friend. Would you prefer me to drop the hammer on Spoonsy because everyone else is voting for him? I cannot say I'm comfortable with this, he is at -1. I must say, it does feel like you're digging a hole with each post here, dear chap! I do not like what I am seeing.
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Hal Incandenza posted:Which part of Spoonsys rng vote has you so riled up? I'm not sandwilf but im gonna toss my 2 cents anyways - for me its the awkward vibe of it + it makes sense to me as a scum play. "Oh it was just rng though you guys" D2 when he lunches a townie type setup
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Hal Incandenza posted:Which part of Spoonsys rng vote has you so riled up? the multiple multiple layers of self consciousness in doing so he knew he wasn't gonna be around so he wanted to say so, oh but he needs a vote, oh but there's little content, so oh I'll rng, oh the rng picked me, oh I rnged again and got sandwolf, oh sorry sandwolf it's just the rng, bye! Like he seems fixated on separating himself from the vote even though it's a first vote in D1. He didn't even need to relay the story, just poo poo a vote out on me, don't give us two paragraphs where it feels like you're providing a bunch of excuses for why there should be no accountability
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Votecount for Day 1  Spoonsy (5): t a s t e, Sandwolf, Retro Futurist, Toalpaz, Chic Trombone Cloner of the Elks (2): Retro Futurist, Voodoofly, Spokes (2): Biaga, Cloner of the Elks Sandwolf (1): Spoonsy Toalpaz (1): Hal Incandenza, Cloner of the Elks, t a s t e (0): Cloner of the Elks, Voodoofly (0): Toalpaz, Hal Incandenza (0): Chic Trombone, Biaga (0): Spokes, Not Voting (0): With 11 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 25th, 2020 at 10 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 34 minutes.
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Sep 26, 2020 01:25
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Hal Incandenza posted:Umm well I did because as I said I don’t think Spoonsy would really do that as scum and you were happy to just contentlessly vote him right as it happened In an easy and scummy way and frankly sir I don’t like your tone Spoonsy *also* has a tendency to lurk through D1 and D2 after some hullabaloo as scum, so I'm surprised why you're so certain of Spoons' alignment
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Spoonsy at -1 with an hour or so to go. I'm basically null on Spoonsy. I like my vote on Elks, but its basically a gut vote. I don't want to vote Spokes, even before you consider its only his second game. I also think Sand's vote on spoonsy was fine. Toap is the only other person with a vote and honestly I don't remember any of their posts, and with only 1 vote its not like they are an option over spoonsy. Basically I'll swap over in a bit unless there are other people here who can hammer
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Cloner of the Elks posted:Sire, I believe you have misunderstood my posts. I did not say that Spoons had over-explained. I just said it was strange to RNG his vote. Please, do check. Oh, I think I just said it poorly. I know you called Spoonsy scummy for using RNG. I just don't think using RNG is scummy, or that most people think it is inherently scummy, or that I think *you* think it's inherently scummy. In short: Spoonsy is scum for overexplaining an RNG vote? sure, I don't agree but that is a case. Spoonsy is scum for using RNG to vote? Nope, calling this a bad case, especially coupled into your taste gut calls.
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Sep 26, 2020 01:37
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For what its worth I do enjoy reading your posts
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Voodoofly posted:
I agree, especially in day one. I think his RNG was aimed at sparking controversy while he is away knowing he would miss the first vote deadline.
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Mister Fly, could you kindly point out the post I allegedly said Spoons was scummy for using a Random Number Generator? I'm so terribly sorry, but I don't ever recall doing this, pif!
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Sandwolf posted:Spoonsy *also* has a tendency to lurk through D1 and D2 after some hullabaloo as scum, so I'm surprised why you're so certain of Spoons' alignment I’m not convinced of Spoonsy, but my initial take was it didn’t feel as awkward as you seem to think, but enough people feel the same way as you so maybe I’m the wrong one here If you’d explained it that way with you vote I probably wouldn’t have been on you
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Cloner of the Elks posted:Mister Fly, could you kindly point out the post I allegedly said Spoons was scummy for using a Random Number Generator? I'm so terribly sorry, but I don't ever recall doing this, pif! Perhaps I could also bother you to show me the part where I allegedly said Spoons over-explained his reasoning for using a Random Number Generator, too. I do believe you've muddled me with someone else, sir. *points wand at you*
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Cloner of the Elks posted:I think it's puzzling that Spoons is more than content with leaving this to a Random Number Generator. It doth strike me as strange. This is you calling him scummy for voting with an RNG. And if you are telling me you aren't calling him scum right here for using an RNG, I'd find this post even more scummy because then its just throwing stuff into the air to see what sticks. I never said you called him scum for overexplaining a vote. Other people did, and I said those other people, while I don't agree with them, at least have a case I consider legitimate.
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