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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Like take the steam engine, probably the biggest driver of the industrial revolution and conceptually simple enough.

Why am I building steam engines from scratch when I just need an instruction booklet to tell me how to join these solarpanels or windmills to this giant stack of golf cart batteries? We're not going to be literally thrown back to the stone age. This shits just laying around for anyone who wants to put it together.

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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:


It's not realistic to expect to maintain any reasonable level of technology or infrastructure without societal organization.

Sure I'll get on board the steam engine train when the entire world has a massive collapse that sends everyone back to a preindustrial state while wiping out all societal organization and physically destroying all pieces of currently existing tech.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Godholio posted:

A steam engine can do a lot of useful things, particularly since gasoline is only good for a few months, and useful for maybe a couple of years if the weather cooperates and you're a little lucky.

What particular event is going to send us all back to that level and allow you time to manufacture a steam engine?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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And what fuel are these steam engines going to run on in our climate change hellscape and how much of it do they need on a daily basis?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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The Voice of Labor posted:

corpse methane and who knows. look, if you don't want in on this steam engine stuff that's cool

Those are serious questions. Are there going to be slaves working your coal mines? Are you going to be clearcutting forests? We have steam boilers at work and if the natural gas or propane supply gets cut off they aren't going to be doing much good. If we're in a world without gasoline your alternative isn't steam because steam isn't what produces the energy.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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The Voice of Labor posted:

they aren't though. trying to plot out logistics for a:)a future world that is b:) radically dissimilar to ours is a self defeating task. the inferences don't map and predictions about regular stuff in the near future are inherently bad and faulty . it's the opposite problem of having an offline copy of wikipedia and expecting to be able to keep a nuclear power plant going. it's conceivable that civilization can collapse to the point where technology regresses hundreds of years, it's happened at least twice before, it's a fairly vacuous fact, but it's not contradicted by me not having built a water wheel in my back yard

So you're planning to use steam engines, but it's impossible to plan for the future because the futures unpredictable? Why is the fuel source for your planned power source a bridge to far especially when steam engines are presented as a solution to a failure in our current fuel source.

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 03:11 on May 20, 2022

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Godholio posted:

Jesus Christ, go away.

My dude you said gasoline isn't going to be good so it's reasonable to replace it with a steam engine. How is asking what's going to fuel the steam engine a crazy question?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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The Voice of Labor posted:

speaking of first aid/hygiene what are y'all planning to use for prophylactics after society collapses? it take's a grip of infrastructure to manufacture latex condoms and their shelf life is pretty short

Having sheep is very handy. You can use the wool to make a comfortable bed on which to use the lambskin condoms you made. Or if you can't find a wasteland bride you have a sheep at hand.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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slurm posted:

You can definitely just get a proper setup then, buried under your yard with stairs up into the basement, hatches, the works. It's a big business in luxury new construction especially these days but definitely pay to play.

It's also hilarious to me that the 2 biggest bunker builders have beef with each other on YouTube.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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slurm posted:

I wish I knew how common bunkers are. I've seen a lot of very nice homes go up with no opportunity to install a bunker without my knowledge. I wonder if they're rarer than the sellers want to represent them as being.

My rock Mason buddy has put in a lot of reinforced rooms with metal reinforced cinder blocks and safe doors. Nobody called it them a bunker but it's probably better quality than most buried bunkers.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Owlbear Camus posted:

Are any of those advertised kinetic hand-crank USB charger weather radios able to deliver enough juice to keep a smartphone going, or will your arm fall off before you even get a couple percent?

To actually be helpful something like this is going to be more useful in all scenarios without power.

https://youtu.be/1tZpGncD81w

Iceholepower sells diy components and kits also.

https://www.iceholepower.com/diy-kits

I'm going to put together a battery/solar kit for travel and a second kit that holds all my starlink stuff so I can have portable internet during a disaster or while taking long road trips. Just waiting for the right case to pop up on AtoZcases.

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Oct 12, 2022

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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The biggest portable batteries you can send them. That way they can keep their phones charged and stay up to date on the news and have communication when needed.

If there's a chance of them having to evacuate a handful of water filters and bottles would be good to have. Sometimes there's water available but it's suspect due to inability to safely store and transport in an emergency situation. The gravity style like the platypus would be preferable for a family and is easily packed away in a backpack.

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Dec 9, 2022

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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CopperHound posted:


Congratulations, you can be the guy that knows a guy that can get what someone needs.

Please don't be the sociopath version of this.

I have always wanted to start a cult commune.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Fourier Series posted:

Yea, he wasn't willing to look into the drug since it was just a quick visit for a unrelated minor issue. He did offer to have me pay for a consultation with his nuclear med co-worker, but I am kinda cheap

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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CommieGIR posted:

1. Yeah, that's nice

2. If you cannot figure out Red to + on both sides and black to - on both sides, probably aren't gonna be doing much better with a jump pack

3. A nice feature, but again if you are wiring it wrong anyways, probably don't need to be playing with a jump pack either.

It sure sounds like you're agreeing that these devices are safer than jumping from another car.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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CommieGIR posted:

Nope, I think they are equally as safe.

You just acknowledged that it has safety features that function to protect inexperienced people who do it wrong. That literally makes it safer.

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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Kesper North posted:

Can anyone recommend a lithium-ion battery pack suitable for medical applications? Primary purpose is to power my CPAP during outages. Amazon has a gazillion of them but they're all from drop-shippers and I have no idea what their quality control is like, don't want to burn the house down in my sleep.

How much power do your devices use and how many days between recharges?

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