Is it okay to have sex with a centaur?

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Zzulu posted:

Anything intelligent enough to play videogames is ok to pork

Is that why video gamers are known for all the sex they have?

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:20

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:09

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Zzulu posted:

Anything intelligent enough to play videogames is ok to pork

Finally, I can have sex with Deep Blue

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:22

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Cubone posted:

I think if any fantastic creature existed alongside humans, it would not be as we imagine it in fantasy fiction. we wouldn't consider them to be non-human people of approximately equal intelligence, character, reasoning skills, language use, and so on, we'd consider them to be animals, and probably have quite a history of killing them for food

it somewhat ties into wittgenstein's notion that if lions could talk, we wouldn't understand them, because everything they'd use to communicate meaningfully to each other would be based on an entirely different sensory existence from our own, and so much of language is based on metaphor extending from our mutual senses and experiences that the idea that they'd even conceive of, for instance, a river as a discrete object, is a stretch, and the idea that there'd be any meaningful way to translate across that massive gap in the most basic, requisite understanding, on so complex a level as a functioning language, is almost absurd

humanity barely manages to see other human beings as human.
if centaurs existed (or elves, or goblins, or dwarves, or fairies, or gnomes, or orcs) we'd see them as we see dolphins, or gorillas. we'd argue about their intelligence, but it would be an argument. and also, sometimes we'd eat them

and this is where I stop buying the consent argument. a dog humping your leg doesn't count as consent, because informed consent is predicated on understanding.
but ultimately we can't strictly positively prove sentience or consciousness even among other humans
yet you can somehow assume a different species has the qualia, and presence of mind, and ability to perceive consequences, necessary to ascertain for its own drat self whether it wants to navigate the complexities of human sexual liaison? this is the philosophical ground of sexual morality you would actually be navigating if you were considering sex with a centaur. what does consent even mean when you're talking about a different species? at what point do we extend the mutual assumption of equal capacity to consciously act across the line of species? we can't answer that because in the real world it's hypothetical

but centaurs aren't real so the answer is yes

Bruh if gorillas and dolphins were building and maintaining tools, putting together huts and maybe having some rudimentary form of spoken/written language, they would definitely be treated differently from the current norm. Maybe. Probably not under current systems lmao

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:23

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:

Is that why video gamers are known for all the sex they have?

Mindless self indulgence is a form of single player sex :shrug:

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:23

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

CountryMatters posted:

Finally, I can have sex with Deep Blue

i would like to gently caress deep blue and cum in it

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:25

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

yospos

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:28

Bismuth: Jun 11, 2010; by Azathoth; Hell Gem

Cubone posted:

I think if any fantastic creature existed alongside humans, it would not be as we imagine it in fantasy fiction. we wouldn't consider them to be non-human people of approximately equal intelligence, character, reasoning skills, language use, and so on, we'd consider them to be animals, and probably have quite a history of killing them for food

it somewhat ties into wittgenstein's notion that if lions could talk, we wouldn't understand them, because everything they'd use to communicate meaningfully to each other would be based on an entirely different sensory existence from our own, and so much of language is based on metaphor extending from our mutual senses and experiences that the idea that they'd even conceive of, for instance, a river as a discrete object, is a stretch, and the idea that there'd be any meaningful way to translate across that massive gap in the most basic, requisite understanding, on so complex a level as a functioning language, is almost absurd

humanity barely manages to see other human beings as human.
if centaurs existed (or elves, or goblins, or dwarves, or fairies, or gnomes, or orcs) we'd see them as we see dolphins, or gorillas. we'd argue about their intelligence, but it would be an argument. and also, sometimes we'd eat them

and this is where I stop buying the consent argument. a dog humping your leg doesn't count as consent, because informed consent is predicated on understanding.
but ultimately we can't strictly positively prove sentience or consciousness even among other humans
yet you can somehow assume a different species has the qualia, and presence of mind, and ability to perceive consequences, necessary to ascertain for its own drat self whether it wants to navigate the complexities of human sexual liaison? this is the philosophical ground of sexual morality you would actually be navigating if you were considering sex with a centaur. what does consent even mean when you're talking about a different species? at what point do we extend the mutual assumption of equal capacity to consciously act across the line of species? we can't answer that because in the real world it's hypothetical

but centaurs aren't real so the answer is yes

This is valid, but I think the question in the OP pretty much has to be based on the idea that the centaurs are sapient and able to communicate with humans the way they're usually depicted in fantasy/mythology.

As far as that goes I say if some creature (like centaurs and elves) are able to communicate in a meaningful way with a human, as they're usually shown in media, then yeah you can totally gently caress em. Tentacle monster, harpy, snake guy, living pillar of flame, as long as you can both consent its fair game.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:35

CountryMatters: Apr 8, 2009; IT KEEPS HAPPENING

I think there are several documentaries on this matter you could consult, I am told it is called "anime"

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:37

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

But how do you know that your sexual partner isn't merely a philosophical zombie, unable to give consent? They could have a life definkng disability or be from a different culture too, that's too wide a gulf to ever cross! Makes you think :shucks:

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:38

Bismuth: Jun 11, 2010; by Azathoth; Hell Gem

The real question is it ok to gently caress a vampire. Even if they give consent, is it still necrophilia?

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:42

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

I hear elves are filthy in the sack

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:42

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Bismuth posted:

The real question is it ok to gently caress a vampire. Even if they give consent, is it still necrophilia?

Nothing is ok when dealing with ungodly walking stiffs, they deserve quick and fiery salvation. Ghosts can be permitted but only through a clay based medium and also you can't burn them.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:45

Bismuth: Jun 11, 2010; by Azathoth; Hell Gem

Colonel Cancer posted:

Nothing is ok when dealing with ungodly walking stiffs, they deserve quick and fiery salvation. Ghosts can be permitted but only through a clay based medium and also you can't burn them.

I hope the dick is at least fired and glazed because un-fired clay is way too porous and water soluble to be safe to gently caress

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:46

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Bismuth posted:

I hope the dick is at least fired and glazed because un-fired clay is way too porous and water soluble to be safe to gently caress

Let that be a lesson to you - you shall not lie with the dead! Even animated skeletons are no go, and they're all boner

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:48

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Not even if the skeleton looks like this

# ? Sep 20, 2020 12:55

r u ready to WALK: Sep 29, 2001

do you think she tapes a fleshlight to her pelvis before going out for a pub crawl

# ? Sep 20, 2020 13:04

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

How dare you assume that she lets even a drop of alcohol touch her teeth. She has morals!

# ? Sep 20, 2020 13:11

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

Colonel Cancer posted:

Not even if the skeleton looks like this

ohhhh mama. i am about to lose myself :swoon:

# ? Sep 20, 2020 13:19

Moon Atari: Dec 26, 2010

r u ready to WALK posted:

do you think she tapes a fleshlight to her pelvis before going out for a pub crawl

Asking your skeleton sex partner to equip a fleshlight for you to gently caress seems like it would be considered a grave insult to skeleton kind. Sort of like having interracial sex and asking them to put on either black or white face to match you.

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# ? Sep 20, 2020 13:43

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# ? Sep 20, 2020 13:46

Blue Footed Booby: Oct 4, 2006; got those happy feet

If it's a sapient consenting adult that you aren't in a position of power over, you can gently caress it, whether centaur or talking lion or gender fluid crabperson.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 14:59

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

what if it's in a position of power over you? what if it's your Centaur Boss?

# ? Sep 20, 2020 15:06

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Titanides come in two sexes, male and female. Both sexes have a rear vagina and uterus, and a large penis in the position where a horse's penis would be. Both sexes also possess humanoid breasts and can thus give birth to and suckle young.

Male Titanides have a frontal penis analogous to a human penis, and female Titanides have a frontal vagina. While sexual intercourse using the horse organs is indulged in casually between individuals of all sexes, so-called frontal intercourse is reserved for intimate relationships. The product of frontal intercourse is always a small, spherical egg a few centimetres in diameter. These eggs are often kept as keepsakes or mementos of special occasions. They are sterile unless first treated with the Wizard's saliva.

An egg which has been made fertile can be implanted in a rear vagina and "quickened" by rear intercourse. After that, the egg will develop into a young Titanide.

All Titanides can have eggs implanted. The Titanide who receives the egg is called the "hindmother". The Titanide who quickens the egg is called the "hindfather". The Titanides whose original act of intercourse produced the egg are the "foremother" and "forefather".

There is special case: a female Titanide may use semen from her ventral penis to produce an egg, transferring it by hand. If the egg is made fertile, she may then implant it in herself and quicken it with the same source of semen. The resulting offspring is a clone of the mother. Semen from the ventral penis can only produce an egg in the same individual who produces the semen. This is the so-called "Aeolian Solo" method of reproduction.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 15:10

gimme the GOD DAMN candy: Jul 1, 2007

Bismuth posted:

The real question is it ok to gently caress a vampire. Even if they give consent, is it still necrophilia?

necrophilia is loving a specific type of inanimate object. so if a corpse is sapient and ambulatory it is a person rather than an object, and thus loving it wouldn't be necrophilia. rather than necrophilia, the existence of the undead would require a new, different term to describe sexual attraction to them. heck, each subtype of undead might require their own term.

however, it's not okay to gently caress a vampire because their genitals are filled with dust and it is very offputting.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 15:50

Blurry Gray Thing: Jun 3, 2009

Cubone posted:

I think if any fantastic creature existed alongside humans, it would not be as we imagine it in fantasy fiction. we wouldn't consider them to be non-human people of approximately equal intelligence, character, reasoning skills, language use, and so on, we'd consider them to be animals, and probably have quite a history of killing them for food

it somewhat ties into wittgenstein's notion that if lions could talk, we wouldn't understand them, because everything they'd use to communicate meaningfully to each other would be based on an entirely different sensory existence from our own, and so much of language is based on metaphor extending from our mutual senses and experiences that the idea that they'd even conceive of, for instance, a river as a discrete object, is a stretch, and the idea that there'd be any meaningful way to translate across that massive gap in the most basic, requisite understanding, on so complex a level as a functioning language, is almost absurd

humanity barely manages to see other human beings as human.
if centaurs existed (or elves, or goblins, or dwarves, or fairies, or gnomes, or orcs) we'd see them as we see dolphins, or gorillas. we'd argue about their intelligence, but it would be an argument. and also, sometimes we'd eat them

and this is where I stop buying the consent argument. a dog humping your leg doesn't count as consent, because informed consent is predicated on understanding.
but ultimately we can't strictly positively prove sentience or consciousness even among other humans
yet you can somehow assume a different species has the qualia, and presence of mind, and ability to perceive consequences, necessary to ascertain for its own drat self whether it wants to navigate the complexities of human sexual liaison? this is the philosophical ground of sexual morality you would actually be navigating if you were considering sex with a centaur. what does consent even mean when you're talking about a different species? at what point do we extend the mutual assumption of equal capacity to consciously act across the line of species? we can't answer that because in the real world it's hypothetical

but centaurs aren't real so the answer is yes

Nearly all stereotypical fantasy creatures are superior to humans.

The Orcs are the only ones with a real drawback. They are slightly dumber. Even then, they seem to be very, very slightly dumber. They act like a less technologically advanced culture and not like Neanderthals. Everyone else is noticeably smarter and better than humans at just about everything that gives us the advantage over other animals. The Elves are flat out smarter and more advanced. Their most gifted live forever, instead of constantly dying and having to train successors. The Dwarves are more clever, work harder. They goblins, once we get away from pure Tolkien where Goblin and Orc is the same thing, are more cunning, more adaptable, and breed quicker.

The trait fantasy settings usually give humans to balance it is "flexibility". And that's just bullshit. It comes solely from the idea that we can imagine a human doing any of the things that can be done in the setting (because it all draws inspiration from real human history, mythology, or folklore), while the fantasy races are given a single stereotype to adhere to. But it wouldn't work that way.

In any sort of realistic re-imagining of this situation, we, as a species, would not be able to compete. These other creatures would beat us to every milestone of civilization, if they ever allowed us to develop a civilization at all.

The elves would be hunting us for sport.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:05

Kung Food: Dec 11, 2006; PORN WIZARD

Hedrigall posted:

Titanides come in two sexes, male and female. Both sexes have a rear vagina and uterus, and a large penis in the position where a horse's penis would be. Both sexes also possess humanoid breasts and can thus give birth to and suckle young.

Male Titanides have a frontal penis analogous to a human penis, and female Titanides have a frontal vagina. While sexual intercourse using the horse organs is indulged in casually between individuals of all sexes, so-called frontal intercourse is reserved for intimate relationships. The product of frontal intercourse is always a small, spherical egg a few centimetres in diameter. These eggs are often kept as keepsakes or mementos of special occasions. They are sterile unless first treated with the Wizard's saliva.

An egg which has been made fertile can be implanted in a rear vagina and "quickened" by rear intercourse. After that, the egg will develop into a young Titanide.

All Titanides can have eggs implanted. The Titanide who receives the egg is called the "hindmother". The Titanide who quickens the egg is called the "hindfather". The Titanides whose original act of intercourse produced the egg are the "foremother" and "forefather".

There is special case: a female Titanide may use semen from her ventral penis to produce an egg, transferring it by hand. If the egg is made fertile, she may then implant it in herself and quicken it with the same source of semen. The resulting offspring is a clone of the mother. Semen from the ventral penis can only produce an egg in the same individual who produces the semen. This is the so-called "Aeolian Solo" method of reproduction.

In the book series that this came from, a 50ft tall Marilyn Monroe has sex with King Kong and then gives birth to a camel.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:11

r u ready to WALK: Sep 29, 2001

that's the kind of literature robots get trained on folks
and people wonder why AI Dungeon is so darn horny all the time

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:15

gimme the GOD DAMN candy: Jul 1, 2007

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

Nearly all stereotypical fantasy creatures are superior to humans.

The Orcs are the only ones with a real drawback. They are slightly dumber. Even then, they seem to be very, very slightly dumber. They act like a less technologically advanced culture and not like Neanderthals. Everyone else is noticeably smarter and better than humans at just about everything that gives us the advantage over other animals. The Elves are flat out smarter and more advanced. Their most gifted live forever, instead of constantly dying and having to train successors. The Dwarves are more clever, work harder. They goblins, once we get away from pure Tolkien where Goblin and Orc is the same thing, are more cunning, more adaptable, and breed quicker.

The trait fantasy settings usually give humans to balance it is "flexibility". And that's just bullshit. It comes solely from the idea that we can imagine a human doing any of the things that can be done in the setting (because it all draws inspiration from real human history, mythology, or folklore), while the fantasy races are given a single stereotype to adhere to. But it wouldn't work that way.

In any sort of realistic re-imagining of this situation, we, as a species, would not be able to compete. These other creatures would beat us to every milestone of civilization, if they ever allowed us to develop a civilization at all.

The elves would be hunting us for sport.

in most multi-species fantasy settings where humans dominate, it is because humans are complete bastards driven by endless greed. less lovely species can't compete.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:15

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

Nearly all stereotypical fantasy creatures are superior to humans.

The Orcs are the only ones with a real drawback. They are slightly dumber. Even then, they seem to be very, very slightly dumber. They act like a less technologically advanced culture and not like Neanderthals. Everyone else is noticeably smarter and better than humans at just about everything that gives us the advantage over other animals. The Elves are flat out smarter and more advanced. Their most gifted live forever, instead of constantly dying and having to train successors. The Dwarves are more clever, work harder. They goblins, once we get away from pure Tolkien where Goblin and Orc is the same thing, are more cunning, more adaptable, and breed quicker.

The trait fantasy settings usually give humans to balance it is "flexibility". And that's just bullshit. It comes solely from the idea that we can imagine a human doing any of the things that can be done in the setting (because it all draws inspiration from real human history, mythology, or folklore), while the fantasy races are given a single stereotype to adhere to. But it wouldn't work that way.

In any sort of realistic re-imagining of this situation, we, as a species, would not be able to compete. These other creatures would beat us to every milestone of civilization, if they ever allowed us to develop a civilization at all.

The elves would be hunting us for sport.

Clearly if you look at all the fantasy spawned by the unquiet loins of creepy authors, humans are the only race able to have offspring with any number of funny forehead stereotype races, surely that's worth something

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:16

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pop punk posted:

Big horse rear end, tiny human penis.

it's against the rules to sign your posts

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:24

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:24

Big Beef City: Aug 15, 2013

I dunno about centaurs but I can tell you it's OK to have sex with a piss-pig.

Because I'm giving you consent.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:44

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

This is a serious thread please keep your deviant anime out of it :colbert:

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:47

Johnny Aztec: Jan 30, 2005; by Hand Knit

Vim Fuego posted:

yeah whatever, make sure they are at least age of consent

# ? Sep 20, 2020 16:49

Demon Lord: Jun 8, 2003; ex nihil, ex omni, ad infinitum

Bismuth posted:

The real question is it ok to gently caress a vampire. Even if they give consent, is it still necrophilia?

At least consent is clear, simply ask "let me in".

# ? Sep 20, 2020 17:06

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# ? Sep 20, 2020 17:14

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Demon Lord posted:

At least consent is clear, simply ask "let me in".

Ghouls will eat your rear end :wink:

And everything else

# ? Sep 20, 2020 17:25

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Colonel Cancer posted:

This is a serious thread please keep your deviant anime out of it

My good sir, I entreat you to consider this: in a thread about centaurs, not one image of a centaur was posted. Not by the OP, not by anyone, until anime finally provided some... halfway down the second page.

Perhaps, in circumstances such as these, anime is not a cause of our problems... but a symptom.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 17:25

Pontificating Ass: Aug 2, 2002; What Doth Life?

Pawn 17 posted:

centaurs have horse dicks OP

Here's your answer might as well close the thread

Im not gay but I would suck off a centaur just for the novelty of it

# ? Sep 20, 2020 17:28

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 17:09

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Chomp8645 posted:

My good sir, I entreat you to consider this: in a thread about centaurs, not one image of a centaur was posted. Not by the OP, not by anyone, until anime finally provided some... halfway down the second page.

Perhaps, in circumstances such as these, anime is not a cause of our problems... but a symptom.

# ? Sep 20, 2020 17:31

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