Is it okay to have sex with a centaur?

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Blurry Gray Thing: Jun 3, 2009

Colonel Cancer posted:

If the centaur is ok with it

This is the right answer because Centaurs are intelligent and can consent.

So, OP, if you really, really want to gently caress a horse, it would be okay to do it with a centaur who is into you.

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Blurry Gray Thing: Jun 3, 2009

Cubone posted:

I think if any fantastic creature existed alongside humans, it would not be as we imagine it in fantasy fiction. we wouldn't consider them to be non-human people of approximately equal intelligence, character, reasoning skills, language use, and so on, we'd consider them to be animals, and probably have quite a history of killing them for food

it somewhat ties into wittgenstein's notion that if lions could talk, we wouldn't understand them, because everything they'd use to communicate meaningfully to each other would be based on an entirely different sensory existence from our own, and so much of language is based on metaphor extending from our mutual senses and experiences that the idea that they'd even conceive of, for instance, a river as a discrete object, is a stretch, and the idea that there'd be any meaningful way to translate across that massive gap in the most basic, requisite understanding, on so complex a level as a functioning language, is almost absurd

humanity barely manages to see other human beings as human.
if centaurs existed (or elves, or goblins, or dwarves, or fairies, or gnomes, or orcs) we'd see them as we see dolphins, or gorillas. we'd argue about their intelligence, but it would be an argument. and also, sometimes we'd eat them

and this is where I stop buying the consent argument. a dog humping your leg doesn't count as consent, because informed consent is predicated on understanding.
but ultimately we can't strictly positively prove sentience or consciousness even among other humans
yet you can somehow assume a different species has the qualia, and presence of mind, and ability to perceive consequences, necessary to ascertain for its own drat self whether it wants to navigate the complexities of human sexual liaison? this is the philosophical ground of sexual morality you would actually be navigating if you were considering sex with a centaur. what does consent even mean when you're talking about a different species? at what point do we extend the mutual assumption of equal capacity to consciously act across the line of species? we can't answer that because in the real world it's hypothetical

but centaurs aren't real so the answer is yes

Nearly all stereotypical fantasy creatures are superior to humans.

The Orcs are the only ones with a real drawback. They are slightly dumber. Even then, they seem to be very, very slightly dumber. They act like a less technologically advanced culture and not like Neanderthals. Everyone else is noticeably smarter and better than humans at just about everything that gives us the advantage over other animals. The Elves are flat out smarter and more advanced. Their most gifted live forever, instead of constantly dying and having to train successors. The Dwarves are more clever, work harder. They goblins, once we get away from pure Tolkien where Goblin and Orc is the same thing, are more cunning, more adaptable, and breed quicker.

The trait fantasy settings usually give humans to balance it is "flexibility". And that's just bullshit. It comes solely from the idea that we can imagine a human doing any of the things that can be done in the setting (because it all draws inspiration from real human history, mythology, or folklore), while the fantasy races are given a single stereotype to adhere to. But it wouldn't work that way.

In any sort of realistic re-imagining of this situation, we, as a species, would not be able to compete. These other creatures would beat us to every milestone of civilization, if they ever allowed us to develop a civilization at all.

The elves would be hunting us for sport.

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