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| Orange vs Brody |
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21 | 28.38% |
| Diamante and Ivelisse vs Shida and Rosa |
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| Kingston vs Mox |
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| Page vs Uno |
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13 | 17.57% |
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Fantasy book what you want for him and let's discuss the alternative you envision Personally I agree with the sentiment this wasn't the tag team to put them with. But it seems like JE wasn't there, and they've have been much better.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:21
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MJeff posted:Miro has been pretty much totally botched in AEW imo. I dunno how you just have him do bad comedy shtick for two weeks and then when he finally gets in the ring he's going 50-50 with a lower card tag team. If his first match had been blow away great that'd be one thing, I think a great match will always establish a guy more than a great squash, but it was pretty sloppy and bad. I dunno how you don't just have the guy come out and kill people every week. Just keep it simple. source your quotes
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Sep 25, 2020 17:22
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MorningMoon posted:I'm not ready for Jericho shootin' on the Illuminati. yet. Jericho's gonna believe every word that guy says
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Sep 25, 2020 17:22
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Lone Goat posted:source your quotes Me, bitch.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:22
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It's true. On the basis of three appearances Miro is absolutely dead and buried. He'll have to go crawling back to Vince now. He's doomed. Dooooomed.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:24
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Fire Miro it’s over for him. I get where you’re coming from MJeff and I understand the take but yeah, I don’t think it’s fair to go there just yet. I’m more disappointed to see the dirt sheets saying it’s already a failed and disastrous debut. I’m not feeling that way. Hangman Page’s first matches got the same criticism, and again, understood. I just don’t see how a talent like Miro is in DEFCON 5 ITS OVER ITS OVER ITS OVER mode (edit: not saying this is your take. It’s not. You didn’t say that. Just your antenna’s up and not feeling the debut. This is other takes I’m reading and it stinks). It’s like a coach being given the harshest criticism after one game and he/she loses. Yes, fans may jump the gun and say fire him or this failed or whatever. I personally need a mid-season or full season before I say pull the plug or “watch out this is not going to end well”. I’m not down with the Miro may not be it talk right now. I think our expectations are through the god drat roof for the guy and I need more time. I trust AEW to get it right because they usually do with the talent they invest in. And boy howdy, he’s an investment and probably making a lot of money they don’t want to screw up with!
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Sep 25, 2020 17:24
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Davros1 posted:Jericho's gonna believe every word that guy says Jericho is a dumber Joe Rogan which is quite the feat.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:25
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The matches were fine to me and it feels like they're still establishing Miro. Like, they were not amazing matches but we won't care in like 2 weeks and in a few months we'll be talking about whatever Miro's first big angle is instead of a whatever debut squash.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:28
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Quantum of Phallus posted:lol he's had one match, come on He's right
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Sep 25, 2020 17:29
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MJeff posted:Me, bitch. I said source your quotes, not sign your posts.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:30
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Maybe it’s the pairing though. I love Kip as a talker. He has really grown there. I remember his first promo and I thought it was awful. Kip is a very solid talker now and I expect that to get better. His in-ring ability doesn’t personally do it for me, but I’m gonna be incredibly patient with the guy. He does not impress me in the slightest bit in a match though. Very telegraphed offense and I feel like I can see him thinking in the ring too much. Overall though, he’s decent and that’s OK.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:31
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MJeff posted:I didn't say he's permanently hosed. I said thus far it's been botched. Because it has. its been eh so far. there's certainly been worse aew starts and the only one that wasn't saved was the nightmare collective so i'm willing to give it a little time. and i am into letting em let fans know like, "hey i also do this thing in my off time", thats a bit cooler in a way that britt's early "i am a dentist" thing wasn't bc like, what, were fans supposed to go to pittsburgh to book dental work? (dont do this lol) but yeah im willing to give it some time, miro looks happy and him and kip should gel better in time. i never expected big match miro to debut at the top of the card challenging for the belt or whatever, just hope it all starts to click soon.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:34
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i thought miro himself looked really good in the match, but joey looked like absolute dogshit to the point where i was wondering if he was doing it as a bit or for a storyline or what because what the gently caress joseph
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Sep 25, 2020 17:39
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shiksa posted:its been eh so far. there's certainly been worse aew starts and the only one that wasn't saved was the nightmare collective so i'm willing to give it a little time. and i am into letting em let fans know like, "hey i also do this thing in my off time", thats a bit cooler in a way that britt's early "i am a dentist" thing wasn't bc like, what, were fans supposed to go to pittsburgh to book dental work? (dont do this lol) I mean yeah they can fix it literally any time they want by just having him kick Kip's head into next week. Again I'm not saying he's hosed because I don't think he is but thus far it's not doing anything for me. I dont even mind the twitch stuff at all. It's the wedding stuff and the weird way they booked his first match that bugs me. I would love a guy the just loving rips you apart while also plugging his channel where he plays My Hero Academia and Warzone or whatever. That's kinda funny.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:42
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I could’ve done without Kip playing up preventing Miro from entering the match.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:48
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MorningMoon posted:To be fair, AEW did this lol was this from the original fyter fest?
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Sep 25, 2020 17:52
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Miro’s gimmick is fine, saddling him with Kip makes him seems low rent. Kip is a chump and Miro should drink his innards
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Sep 25, 2020 17:54
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Davros1 posted:Jericho's gonna believe every word that guy says until the next guy says something different, then he will believe that. I really like Jericho in the ring and doing promos and poo poo, but the man.....is not bright, sometimes.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:55
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as someone who didn't watch or really follow wrestling for years, I had no idea who Miro was when he debuted at AEW. I still kinda like Miro, but am going to wait and see if I 'LIKE' like him. Like, do I want to ask him out or not?
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Sep 25, 2020 17:58
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enigmahfc posted:Like, do I want to ask him out or not? you should see him sell a fish
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Sep 25, 2020 17:59
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The match was bleh but Miro looked like the best dude in it. I'm a big Kip fan so I like the pairing and Miro's probably really enjoying getting to do something that vibes with what he does in his off time. You can definitely argue he should be in a bigger spot because he should be but there's no real room at the top of the card for a monster face so this lets them slow-build him up and then once the Kenny/Hangman story is finished with the AEW title he'll be ready to come into the picture.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:03
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in a company that snatched victory from the jaws of irrelevance for Dark Order, Hangman, and Britt Baker, Miro is hardly in any danger. He'll look better versus someone else.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:13
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I wish Miro had been treated like a lot more of a big deal because he is and should be more of a big deal, but I also think there's so little bandwidth for people on AEW to be Big Deals that I can't tell if I think it's worse to have him debut in this relatively understated fashion and hopefully later become something bigger, or have him be another guy who debuts as this big deal you should care about only to go on the backburner within a couple weeks.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:17
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MorningMoon posted:To be fair, AEW did this To be fair, that guy is literally the guy who runs the gaming tournament they were copromoting the show with, so if anyone is suited to an FGC themed comedy plunder match it's him. E: I was also disappointed by Miro going 50-50 with a solidly midcard team in a sloppy match, but I can see the Twitch jackass gimmick working in a sort of Edge And Christian way where they're both a funny act and legitimately title contenders in the future. I do like their dynamic together. I Before E fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Sep 25, 2020 18:18
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I think the second show is going to solve a lot of this.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:18
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Miro looked good in that match. It was sloppy, but fun.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:19
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I Before E posted:To be fair, that guy is literally the guy who runs the gaming tournament they were copromoting the show with, so if anyone is suited to an FGC themed comedy plunder match it's him. I talked to him and Kenny both at my old job cause we were one of the places that sponsored the tournament. It was cool.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:19
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I only knew of Miro from the postings of the AEW crew here (and was very excited on your behalf when he debuted) and I think the way he's been handled so far is fine. He's clearly a big deal and I like Kip so I'm down with their pairing, even if the match this week was uneven. Honestly, of the four, he was the one that seemed the most off to me; his pace was much slower than everyone else and it felt like he was operating in a different sort of match all together. Ultimately it didn't matter because his moves were loving beastly even if they didn't flow in the way I expect from AEW matches.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:20
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rantmo posted:I only knew of Miro from the postings of the AEW crew here (and was very excited on your behalf when he debuted) and I think the way he's been handled so far is fine. He's clearly a big deal and I like Kip so I'm down with their pairing, even if the match this week was uneven. Honestly, of the four, he was the one that seemed the most off to me; his pace was much slower than everyone else and it felt like he was operating in a different sort of match all together. Ultimately it didn't matter because his moves were loving beastly even if they didn't flow in the way I expect from AEW matches. I think he's going to need a bit to break out of bad WWE habits.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:22
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It probably would have gone over better if it wasn't the first match of the night
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Sep 25, 2020 18:25
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Miro was deffo the highlight of that match, and he worked like half the thread with that knee stuff. Had it been Miro vs Sonny it probably would've been the match of the card and elevated both, but alas. I can totally see folks not being on board with what they're doing so far, but I'm sure it'll all be good in like a month.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:28
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Vince MechMahon posted:I think he's going to need a bit to break out of bad WWE habits. That was my suspicion but I haven't been a regular WWE watcher in years and years so I didn't want to cast that aspersion without certainty.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:30
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rantmo posted:That was my suspicion but I haven't been a regular WWE watcher in years and years so I didn't want to cast that aspersion without certainty. He was great in ring in NXT, and has always been good at impact moves and selling. But he slowed way down when he hit the main roster and, like everyone in that hell company, got slowly worse over time. I'm sure after a month or so he'll look like a million bucks in there.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:35
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No offense to Miro either, he's not good enough for the top of AEW's card right now. He's very firmly a midcarder and should get some time in the AEW oven before a big push.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:37
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Miro should use that kick he did as his finisher instead of the camel clutch.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:39
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Gumball Gumption posted:No offense to Miro either, he's not good enough for the top of AEW's card right now. He's very firmly a midcarder and should get some time in the AEW oven before a big push. I also agree with this.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:40
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also as much as i'm extremely happy to see miro in aew it's probably good to not have someone jump directly to the top of the card again when they debut, especially someone coming from WWE he'll get there before the end of his career, easily
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Sep 25, 2020 18:42
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Miro was also in WWE for a decade without a particularly long stint on the indies beforehand, so he’s probably gonna need a bit to figure out what it means to wrestle like himself feels like.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:47
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Miro should go back to the Performance Center
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Sep 25, 2020 18:57
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JUNGLE BOY posted:Miro should go back to the Performance Center
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