lurker2006 posted:

edit: I'm sorry.

GoutPatrol posted:

I went back and watched the scene, I think Pete was making a joke. I don't think Jerusalem thinks Pete was making a joke.

Incelshok Na posted:

I'm really conflicted about the Don-as-serial-killer line they dropped. You can still see a lot of it in S4. It would have been a . . . very different show. Dextermania was a part of the zeitgeist in weird ways because it was such a mediocre show.

Gaius Marius posted:

I'm pretty sure they're joking.

Jerusalem posted:

Welp it finally happened, after the last 8 episodes maxxed out at like 45k characters, I ended up going overboard on this one. If these things are getting way too verbose, let me know, and I'll try to be a bit more efficient with my wordcount. I tend to - and greatly enjoy - rambling on about a point

Yoshi Wins posted:

Fun casting fact: the actors who play Roger and Mona are married in real life. They do always have good chemistry in scenes together.

Incelshok Na posted:

Beefeater1980 posted:

lurker2006 posted:

When Pete showed his intention of revealing it to Cooper I immediately had the impression that it would be dismissed out of hand, it's not like Don lied about any credentials, you don't sever a money maker for what is essentially having a pen name.

Beamed posted:

This is important to note just because Cooper is drawing two lines here - you can't just disappear on us without consequences, and I know exactly who you are. Very heavy stuff

Gaius Marius posted:

It never should've been this close

Gaius Marius posted:

I honestly don't think she's a great actor but she's absolutely perfectly cast. Everyone is. Whoever had the final say in casting deserves a bonus, sopranos, breaking bad, deadwood, they all had a few weak links. Every single mad men actor is loving bringing it every scene

Suzanne Farrel that's the only weak actor

potee posted:

Matthew Weiner's son that played Glen was pretty terrible, but they clearly figured that out early enough, and they also struck gold with Kiernan Shipka.

JethroMcB posted:

That was a deliberate Matt Weiner troll move, the network demanded they provide previews but he kept imposing restrictions on the editing team - "You can't show anything past the first half of the episode," "You can only use the first scene of the the A plot," "Nothing with the guest star" etc. That's why by the last few seasons it was just clips of characters asking monosyllabic questions, making small talk and innocuous action/establishing shots (Don thumbing through paperwork, Betty closing a cabinet in the kitchen, Peggy thumbing through paperwork, etc.)

JethroMcB posted:

It's her hallucination in "The Fog" where the silkworm drops into her hand. As she goes from admiring the worm to wrapping her fist around it, her expression shifts from dreamy wonderment to this cold, cruel smile; there's a second where her eyes go wide, marveling at her power over a living thing, and that's when I think both "Ohhh, I suddenly have an understanding of how Betty views motherhood, and it's kind of terrifying" and "This is a really good performance for somebody pretending to crush a bug on a green screen."

Jerusalem posted:

Pete is troubled and a little vexed that Trudy mentioned this to her parents, though he really only has himself to blame for having clearly told her he expected to get the role (I presume he didn't tell her his certainty was down to his plans to blackmail Don Draper) only for it to all blow up in his face. But unlike Pete's own father, Tom isn't bringing this up to harangue or look down on Pete, if anything quite the opposite. With surprising openness he tells Pete warmly that he wants to treat him like a son because he thinks of him like a son... and his best advice is for Pete to stop concentrating so much on work and focus more on his family life.

...But When Pete starts talking about how Sterling Cooper could help him spread the message for his product, he gets back on track. Diplomatically he brings up "tending your own garden" before finally just outright saying what he means: he and his wife want grandchildren, and they want Pete concentrating on getting their daughter pregnant.

Trudy is a little shocked to overhear this.... regardless of how genuine Tom's affection or good treatment of him might be, he's still overstepping himself in Pete's mind. But he can't shut him down or tell him to mind his own business, after all he's his father-in-law, and more than that he's the man who loaned them (on extraordinarily lax terms) the money for the apartment they currently enjoy living in.

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Her reply? He can't think about that. He is confused, but she insists, and he doesn't need much convincing. The two go back to making out, birth control all forgotten.

The meaning of her "you CAN'T think about that" is, I think, straightforward: having a child together in her mind should NOT be a rational, logical and thought-out process where the pros and cons are weighed against each other. It should be the product of love, of the natural desire between a husband and wife, and if a child comes from that, it will come from love. The rest of it, the money, the time, the stress etc, that can all be dealt with later.

Oh to be white and from a privileged background.

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After a surprisingly clumsy fade-to-black,

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Another clumsy transition via fade-to-black

Yoshi Wins posted:

Some people find season 2 to be "slow". They're crazy. Tons of stuff is going on all the time. The fact that you're watching very carefully is really gonna help.

Jerusalem posted: