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sum
Nov 14, 2010

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Azerbaijan launched an invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh (which is technically part of Azerbajian but really a part of Armenia) today with the apparent backing of Turkey. This is the most recent development in the frozen conflict since the clashes along the Azeri-Armenian border in July and perhaps is an even greater escalation than the a four day quasi-war in 2016 that ended in a stalemate. It's the first declared war between two sovereign states since Russia's invasion of Georgia.

Many view this as an extension of the Turkish-Russian proxy conflict already playing out in Libya and Syria. Armenian sources are accusing Turkey of funneling Syrian fighters into Azerbaijan and providing F-16 cover, whereas the Azeris have expressed alarm at Russia's alleged covert rearmament program in Armenia. Russia has just concluded the Kavkaz-2020 joint exercises with Iran and Armenia simulating a naval invasion in the Caspian Sea (no points for guessing who that is aimed it) while Turkey's relationship with Armenia is uh, well,


DOES this conflict continue to escalate?

WHAT does this say about America's ability to enforce peace globally?

WILL this retroactively justify all those panic purchases you made back in March?

WHEN will Tupac kill the marauding Turk with rap magic?

ALL THIS... and more!!!

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Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010





https://twitter.com/KimKardashian/s...278055768846338
Cross posting from trump thread
Anyways things are about to get extremely normal

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

I'll leave the past in the past, tomorrow's not promised
And today's just an anime titty I guess that's why it's the present







https://twitter.com/presidentaz/sta...4710361088?s=20

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

The Islamic Orb Illuminati.

I really wonder what are the forces at work stoking the fire of this conflict, thereís no way a guy like Aliyev would think he can start poo poo without getting some form of guarantee... whatís the bigger picture here.... thereís no way this whole thing is just about some tiny strip of nowhere land no one gives a poo poo about.... was there some form of gas reserves discovered? Trouble domestic events happening in Azerbaijan so Aliyev had to lash out to distract people?! I wonder...

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 19:40 on Sep 27, 2020

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

I'll leave the past in the past, tomorrow's not promised
And today's just an anime titty I guess that's why it's the present







The gas deposits are in the Med, and that's why Greece and Turkey have been more confrontational than normal recently

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020





https://twitter.com/Emil_Em1/status...2073365506?s=19

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

The Islamic Orb Illuminati.

Atrocious Joe posted:

The gas deposits are in the Med, and that's why Greece and Turkey have been more confrontational than normal recently

Well yes I know Iím just wondering whatís causing this conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia and their respective backers

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011


Erdogan needs a win. Libya is a quagmire, Syrian intervention did not go off as planned, Greeks have diplomatic advantage in the Aegean.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007


We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold





Ghost of Mussolini posted:

Erdogan needs a win. Libya is a quagmire, Syrian intervention did not go off as planned, Greeks have diplomatic advantage in the Aegean.

stop buying candles invading places then

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

choose your fighter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYTJpWJ-lXM

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKA9xJx-NKg

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007




Armenia did not embrace heavy metal sad.

Hopefully this brief warfare gets everybody less angry as is the custom.

Avynte
Jun 30, 2012




Nonsense posted:

Armenia did not embrace heavy metal sad.

Hopefully this brief warfare gets everybody less angry as is the custom.

this dude seems pretty cool though

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015




Armenians and us Greeks are naturel allies but that Azeri video was so much better. I am now confuse.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016



Nonsense posted:

Armenia did not embrace heavy metal sad.

Hopefully this brief warfare gets everybody less angry as is the custom.

https://youtu.be/xqrsHQvp4TU

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020




Thar Azeri video and song sucks. First one good

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007




Another part of the world that I have to learn something about? I don't think so.

Nice try thread.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

paul_soccer12 posted:

Thar Azeri video and song sucks. First one good
i agree

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010





https://twitter.com/Sturgeons_Law/s...297138308370432

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

does anyone else remember when baked alaska's "bodyguard" picked a fight with a group of armenian gangbangers in L.A. and got stabbed a bunch of times? anyways

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

geopolitics are so complicated

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007




paul_soccer12 posted:

Thar Azeri video and song sucks. First one good

The first one looks like some Armenian's cocaine ideas after playing some call of duty.

The second one is too polished and lacking soul, like a Disney remake.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019



the moderate rebels are here to party

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/stat...5213619200?s=19

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'




Dante80 posted:

Armenians and us Greeks are naturel allies but that Azeri video was so much better. I am now confuse.

azeris canít even make the tanks fire on beat. terrible.

fanfic insert
Nov 4, 2009





jfc eurovision really did a number on these countries

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME




Soiled Meat

i dated an armenian girl and her dad was a real jerk but her mom was a sweet lady so

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012



The naval rivalry between Greece and Turkey over oil drilling sounds about as nonviolent as the bloody Cod War.

sum
Nov 14, 2010

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Very Armenian vid of the aftermath of an Azeri mechanized assault. Shows several corpses including a BMP that got turned into a crematorium.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007


We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold





are there any videos from the azerbaijani side or have they literally spent the entire day getting owned by various armenian missiles

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/statu...147154187636737

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

sum posted:

Very Armenian vid of the aftermath of an Azeri mechanized assault. Shows several corpses including a BMP that got turned into a crematorium.
yeesh

i wonder what kind of ATGMs they were using

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

"You are the best poster... do not let anyone say otherwise."


Those drat caucasians!

Impkins Patootie
Apr 20, 2017






Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010





The Caucasusian *checks notes* drill and blast zone

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

yeesh

i wonder what kind of ATGMs they were using

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...ti-tank_weapons

Some of the footage looks like Kornet missiles are used.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

Dante80 posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...ti-tank_weapons

Some of the footage looks like Kornets are used.
so, like, every ATGM in the russian export inventory over the past 20 years. good to know!

probably remote-detonated IEDs and anti-tank mines in the mix too. tune in tomorrow for another edition of bellingsquat.

sum
Nov 14, 2010

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

yeesh

i wonder what kind of ATGMs they were using

Fun(?) fact about BMPs is that they were designed for the battlefield of WWIII Germany with the expectation that any disabling shot would kill everyone inside due to chemical/radioactive exposure. Consequently the designers de-emphasized the survivability of the crew and passengers in case it was knocked out because they assumed everyone inside would be dead men anyway. This lead to design decisions such as storing ammunition in the passenger compartment and putting fuel tanks in the doors (!!!!). Anyway point being is that they're even more of a death trap than a normal lightly armored AFV.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010





sum posted:

Fun(?) fact about BMPs is that they were designed for the battlefield of WWIII Germany with the expectation that any disabling shot would kill everyone inside due to chemical/radioactive exposure. Consequently the designers de-emphasized the survivability of the crew and passengers in case it was knocked out, because they assumed that they would be dead men anyway. This lead to design decisions such as storing ammunition in the passenger compartment and putting fuel in the doors (!!!!). Anyway point being is that they're even more of a death trap than a normal lightly armored AFV.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

so, like, every ATGM in the russian export inventory over the past 20 years.

With some Frenchies sprinkled in for good measure.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015



sum posted:

Anyway point being is that they're even more of a death trap than a normal lightly armored AFV.

All IFVs back then were death traps. Hell, the M113 for instance was made with 5083 Aluminum
Also, those fuel tanks in the doors were routinely filled with sand in service..for some weird reason.

Dante80 has issued a correction as of 21:17 on Sep 27, 2020

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

sum posted:

Fun(?) fact about BMPs is that they were designed for the battlefield of WWIII Germany with the expectation that any disabling shot would kill everyone inside due to chemical/radioactive exposure. Consequently the designers de-emphasized the survivability of the crew and passengers in case it was knocked out because they assumed everyone inside would be dead men anyway. This lead to design decisions such as storing ammunition in the passenger compartment and putting fuel tanks in the doors (!!!!). Anyway point being is that they're even more of a death trap than a normal lightly armored AFV.
yeah they weren't even thinking about the tactical level as much as they were ruthlessly reinforcing success via massive, operational-level breakthroughs across the whole north german plain. it's not something you can picture on a photograph. like, they were imagining losing 100 vehicles in one area -- just hit with a nuke etc. -- and then would plan for saying, well that didn't work, and pull the survivors toward another area where 500 vehicles just rolled over NATO and just keep driving. whereas this is like rugged, hilly trench warfare.

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