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Mr. Nice! posted:Does Rivers rank higher than Romo all time? I know a lot of people don't think Romo is HoF worthy, and I think he's a better QB than Rivers. Romo had a much shorter career than Rivers, but had a better peak and was way more fun to watch. But Romo is not getting into the HOF either unless it's as a "contributor" in 50 years for his broadcast career.
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He and Matt Ryan will have the same career of had a lot of games, lot of stats, no rings, no hall
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Rivers is not close to a HoFer. The story of the NFL can easily be told without him, he has never done anything of note in the postseason, and is a serial choker. Being the 5th best QB at best in the league in your prime is nice but not HoF
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Matt Ryan is a better player than Philip Rivers. Matt Ryan has repeatedly been let down in huge spots by his teammates, his defense and his coaches meanwhile Philip Rivers has routinely created new and innovative ways to lose games his entire career.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Matt Ryan is a better player than Philip Rivers. Matt Ryan has repeatedly been let down in huge spots by his teammates, his defense and his coaches meanwhile Philip Rivers has routinely created new and innovative ways to lose games his entire career. Matt Ryan blew a 28-3 lead
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Sep 28, 2020 16:19
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Mostly not his fault.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Mostly not his fault. It's absolutely his fault
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Sep 28, 2020 16:24
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New question: if Philip Rivers is a hall of famer should Matt Ryan be a hall of famer? Based solely on comparative merit, ignore the idea that one bad decision doesn't mean you need to make another.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Matt Ryan is a better player than Philip Rivers. Matt Ryan has repeatedly been let down in huge spots by his teammates, his defense and his coaches meanwhile Philip Rivers has routinely created new and innovative ways to lose games his entire career. Hes gonna retire top 5 in every important passing statistic. He's going to get in and if this place is still around by then, I look forward to people being mad about it
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Sep 28, 2020 16:27
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Romo = Ryan = Rivers = Roethlisberger in that order
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a neat cape posted:Hes gonna retire top 5 in every important passing statistic. He's going to get in and if this place is still around by then, I look forward to people being mad about it I agree with this. At some point, individual statistics matter, even without a Super Bowl ring. Dan Fouts is an example of putting up superb numbers over a career and being inducted to the HoF without a single championship.
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Sep 28, 2020 16:37
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matt ryan won mvp. they will both get in. i ddon't care
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Cavauro posted:matt ryan won mvp. they will both get in. i ddon't care The only person I actually care about getting in is Don Coryell because I've been beating that drum way too long. Rivers and Gates will get in and then no Chargers ever again so whatever
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Sep 28, 2020 16:40
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wins and awards are a matter of specific circumstances, but there's no denying how insanely consistent Rivers was pretty much every single season of his career.
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AndrewP posted:wins and awards are a matter of specific circumstances, but there's no denying how insanely consistent Rivers was pretty much every single season of his career. Consistently afraid to do a QB sneak.
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Sep 28, 2020 21:09
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Consistently threw 4th quarter interceptions.
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Quiet Feet posted:Rivers belongs in the Vinny Testaverde Hall of "Hey (I Remember that Guy Wasn't he Good?)!" Rivers had a way better career than Testaverde. I think Rivers should be at least in the discussion and has a good chance of getting in just because of the way the NFL hall of fame works. So on a year with a worse set of guys he can be one of the five who has to get in. But on baseball rules he wouldn't make it.
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Sep 28, 2020 22:37
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When Rivers wins the superbowl over Tom Brady this year you all will be I knew he was good. (spoiler, he is not good)
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if bernie kosar isn't in the hall of fame than rivers definitely isn't getting in *pulls up garbage bag over his head, oozes back down into the sewer*
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Mr. Nice! posted:Does Rivers rank higher than Romo all time? I know a lot of people don't think Romo is HoF worthy, and I think he's a better QB than Rivers. They both are e: both are way better than eli manning too, who will get in because rings and nothing else
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Romo probably isn't either. I'm not saying he wasn't a talented guy or what have you but his career does not warrant HoF induction, no.
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Romo might get in for his broadcast career in 30 years
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Definitely, he definitely deserves it if he actually won anything ever lol
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Didn't Kurt Warner get in last year?
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BlindSite posted:Didn't Kurt Warner get in last year? Kurt Warner won one and played in three SBs(probably would have won two without Patriots cheating), was a league and SB MVP of a record setting offense, and was pretty much best in NFL from 99-01. Guys who were at the absolute top of their position for a shorter period of time are more qualified than guys who were good over a long period. That's how I look at it.
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Rivers was a good QB.
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fartknocker posted:Rivers was a good QB. RIP, Rivers Interceptions Plentiful
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Honestly, if Rivers gets in, I just hope he’d bring his buddy Rick to introduce him
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Rivers overtook Hall of Famer Dan Marino in career passing yards in tonight's game. Dan Marino, inducted at Canton in 2005 without ever having won a Super Bowl. Philip Rivers knocking on the door to the HOF.
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CocoaNuts posted:Rivers overtook Hall of Famer Dan Marino in career passing yards in tonight's game. Marino did it with pre-2006 rules. The raw numbers don't matter. He's not that impressive compared to his peers, where Marino was head and shoulders above anyone else.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Marino did it with pre-2006 rules. The raw numbers don't matter. He's not that impressive compared to his peers, where Marino was head and shoulders above anyone else. The raw numbers absolutely matter to the people voting for the hall of fame
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a neat cape posted:The raw numbers absolutely matter to the people voting for the hall of fame Tell that to all the receivers who had to wait to get in?
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Grittybeard posted:Tell that to all the receivers who had to wait to get in? Receivers were at a logjam because they stupidly only let in like 4 or 5 people a year
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a neat cape posted:The raw numbers absolutely matter to the people voting for the hall of fame Marino got in because his stats were unworldly compared to his peers which made up for his lack of rings. Rivers does not have the former to make up for this lack of the latter. I still chuck at poo poo taco, as well.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Marino got in because his stats were unworldly compared to his peers which made up for his lack of rings. Rivers does not have the former to make up for this lack of the latter. He's gonna get in lol
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Mr. Nice! posted:Marino got in because his stats were unworldly compared to his peers which made up for his lack of rings. Rivers does not have the former to make up for this lack of the latter. This is my argument against Frank Gore. Hm. I seem to have argued against myself.
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Phil Rivers will make it in as one of those "eventually" kinda guys
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Quiet Feet posted:Phil Rivers will make it in as one of those "eventually" kinda guys If Rivers gets in without a ring, Romo should get into the hall as well.
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