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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!


Since no one else has made one, I figure I'd post a dedicated thread for tonight's debate between 2, lovely, old, demented presidential candidates. I don't have much in the way of an OP and won't post links on where to watch it since I figure it'll be pretty easy to find, especially for anyone here.

I made some half assed bingo cards, 30 for each candidate, that I uploaded here:


BIDEN:
https://ibb.co/T1DXkKB

TRUMP:
https://ibb.co/2ZNzwsn

Or, if you want, you can make your own cards if you don't like mine with this link

https://myfreebingocards.com/bingo-card-generator

Like I said, I'm not going to waste a ton of time whipping an in depth OP filled with video links and policy platforms since what is there to say? We all know what's going on and what's at stake. I just thought it'd be good to have a separate thread for this awful poo poo show that we can TVIV for tonight and then close.

Let me know if you guys want me to add something and I'll put in here. Or if there's already a dedicated thread I missed so I can close this one.

thanks.

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009




Nap Ghost

It's the debate! I'm stressed and nauseous. Thank you.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!


Pick posted:

It's the debate! I'm stressed and nauseous. Thank you.

Anyone who posts in here has to take a drug test first

So I'll show myself out.

Wonder if the mods can sticky it for 24 hours?

selec
Sep 6, 2003

and don't have any kids yourself

My main interests for the debate tonight:
1. Maniac campaign Trump or drugged out chill Trump?
2. Biden having only minor flubs or something they can make hay with
3. Some left field surprise from Trump like they arrest Hunter Biden during the debate or something psycho

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012


BiggerBoat posted:

Anyone who posts in here has to take a drug test first

So I'll show myself out.

Not gonna lie, going to be a real bummer if we get through every debate without having the sporadically active gerontocrats get tested for Hyperadrenachrome.

Release the piss cup Biden

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012



honestly ill probably be reading this thread to see the silly slapfighting rather then watching this garbage. no matter what happens, this is gonna suck sha-iiiit and ruin my mood so might as well filter it through all you poor bastards. sorry

Pick posted:

It's the debate! I'm stressed and nauseous. Thank you.

same.

apophenium
Apr 13, 2009


I made the mistake of looking forward to this poo poo show. It will very likely not be as funny as I want it to be but here we are.

Do we think, regardless how this one goes, that they'll stay the course and do the other scheduled debates or nah?

TwoQuestions
Aug 25, 2011


apophenium posted:

I made the mistake of looking forward to this poo poo show. It will very likely not be as funny as I want it to be but here we are.

Do we think, regardless how this one goes, that they'll stay the course and do the other scheduled debates or nah?

More than likely. They're on Trump's 30 yard line, and Trump needs a touchdown, and all Biden needs is to not get intercepted, but a field goal would be nice to have and in the cards.

Sports analogies are not my forte.

hmmxkrazee
Sep 9, 2006
why

Yea I don't know if I am brave enough to watch it live. Will probably just be here for the play-by-play. Really hope Biden doesn't have any major oopsies.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!


I'm not really stressed out at all since:

No matter who wins, I've already lost.

I'm voting for Biden Oct 17th (early voting) and already know it.

The media is going to call it a tie, regardless. FOX News will say Trump won of course.

I doubt anything short of someone pissing their pants, suffering a stroke or saying the n-word on stage is going to move the needle much.

I'm not even sure I'm gonna watch it but have a feeling I won't be able to help myself.

...

I fully expect Trump to come out in full bully mode. Interrupting, talking over his opponent, blustering, lying, etc. and Joe will be in decorum mode playing rope a dope. But I hope Biden gets down in the trenches with Trump. Not by mucking it up where Donald wants it (like the Mutant Leader v Batman in TDKR) but by treating him like the joke he is; using sarcasm, chuckling, belittling him, hand waving his poo poo, calling lies LIES and using his political skills to get under his skin.

Trump wants this to be a made for TV fiasco and his brazenness is well known so Biden has to counter that with some combination of toughness, brevity, calmness, professionalism, dignity and sarcasm. Make Donald look like a fool by moving and jabbing all night and then landing an occasional overhand left.

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Sep 29, 2020

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012



it really does feel like kabuki theatre, doesn't it? literally no one's mind is going to be changed here, outside of the handful of Ken Bone dumbasses who are pretending to not be swayed because of some weird bipartisan aestheticism.

just a bunch of people glued to their TV out of stress. horrible.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009



As a foreigner, it is obvious who is going to win. I just want to see how angry Trump can get when he can't walk off the stage, move on the next rear end-kissing journalist or shut Biden up. And his answers get immediately critiziced by someone with no sympathy. For 90 minutes.

Oh man, this is going to be a treat.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!


apophenium posted:

I made the mistake of looking forward to this poo poo show. It will very likely not be as funny as I want it to be but here we are.

Do we think, regardless how this one goes, that they'll stay the course and do the other scheduled debates or nah?

They'll have them I think.

If anyone pussies out moving forward it'll be Trump, bitching about the moderator and the unfair questions since everyone's always picking on him, but I doubt it since is too vain to pass up a chance for *RATINGS* and being seen on TV.

And tonight's debate is gonna get HUGE ratings (because we're a nation of morons) that Donald will claim responsibility for.

"No one would have even watched these debates if it weren't for ME, the most popular president ever." and so forth.

EDIT:

DarkCrawler posted:

As a foreigner, it is obvious who is going to win. I just want to see how angry Trump can get when he can't walk off the stage, move on the next rear end-kissing journalist or shut Biden up. And his answers get immediately critiziced by someone with no sympathy. For 90 minutes.

Oh man, this is going to be a treat.

Where do you live, if you don't mind me asking? Because here in the States, we do things a little...differently. And by that I mean "worse"

Tomorrow, short of some insane catastrophe tonight, the news will basically render it a tie and go out of their way to excuse all but the most egregious gently caress ups of "the loser". Every debate I've watched in the last 20 years usually had the Democratic candidate mop the loving floor with whatever werewolf the GOP threw up there (Obama v Romney 1 being the lone exception) but since our media is poo poo and wants a horse race narrative, none of that will matter.

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Sep 29, 2020

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

LOL, Fox is already going all-in with "Biden cheated!"

https://twitter.com/existentialfish...950082267803655

TwoQuestions
Aug 25, 2011


BiggerBoat posted:

They'll have them I think.

If anyone pussies out moving forward it'll be Trump, bitching about the moderator and the unfair questions since everyone's always picking on him, but I doubt it since is too vain to pass up a chance for *RATINGS* and being seen on TV.

And tonight's debate is gonna get HUGE ratings (because we're a nation of morons) that Donald will claim responsibility for.

"No one would have even watched these debates if it weren't for ME, the most popular president ever." and so forth.


I'll go out on a limb and say he'd be right about that, but not for the reason he thinks.

ubergnu
Jun 7, 2002

Failed gothic

Nap Ghost

Yay, election debates! That means it's time for my quadrennial whining about them being in the middle of the night over here and I have to get to work tomorrow!

Not that I can stand watching or hearing that rancid blob, but it's the principle of things.

Also, I don't have any alcohol.

ubergnu fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Sep 29, 2020

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!


FMguru posted:

LOL, Fox is already going all-in with "Biden cheated!"

https://twitter.com/existentialfish...950082267803655

LOL

"Full body cavity searches, pat downs, urine tests and metal detectors in advance of any presidential debate."

I honestly hope both candidates are on a ton of drugs. I'm not even kidding.

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Sep 29, 2020

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004



Can't wait to see which racist, law-and-order, corporate-owned conservative wins the debate. I mean, this debate could determine which of them becomes President and does absolutely jack poo poo about economic inequality and climate change, while continuing to bomb foreign countries, and allowing wall street and the banks to loot our economy of every last dollar, leading to brutal austerity in the name of fiscal responsibility. Democracy owns!

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

You can't take it with you, you know.


I am going to try not to watch this and play Mario instead, and then, cave, and watch it anyway.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012


The Pussy Boss posted:

Can't wait to see which racist, law-and-order, corporate-owned conservative wins the debate. I mean, this debate could determine which of them becomes President and does absolutely jack poo poo about economic inequality and climate change, while continuing to bomb foreign countries, and allowing wall street and the banks to loot our economy of every last dollar, leading to brutal austerity in the name of fiscal responsibility. Democracy owns!

Foreign Policy isn't even a subject in this first debate, presumably because they didnt want the candidates violently, savagely agreeing with each other.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

You can't take it with you, you know.


Actually, are there decent streaming recs for us cord cutters? Maybe availability will solve this problem for me.

e: looks like CNN is making it free, although their stream is often a little choppy for me, I guess access will be easy enough.

Omnikin
May 28, 2007

Press 'E' for Medic


There will be several versions of it up on Youtube from a variety of providers. Most major networks will do so.

My Twitter Account
Feb 4, 2003



BiggerBoat posted:

Anyone who posts in here has to take a drug test first


So do I send this to one of the mods, or... ?

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!


Neurolimal posted:

Foreign Policy isn't even a subject in this first debate, presumably because they didnt want the candidates violently, savagely agreeing with each other.

It's almost amazing how little "foreign policy" matters to the overall discourse when the country you're trying to be elected to lead is "literally" on fire, sick and dead broke.

I'd be surprised if "terrorism" was mentioned ONE TIME tonight aside from BLM, Antifa and MAYBE some right wing groups if Biden takes it there but, god drat, what a difference 15 years makes.

My Twitter Account posted:



So do I send this to one of the mods, or... ?

I'm sorry, Mr Manson.

This tested NEGATIVE for recreational drugs. You're completely clean.

So you're not allowed to post here.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009




Nap Ghost

I'll bet 9/11 actually doesn't come up, or if it does only to highlight way FEWER people died.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!


Pick posted:

I'll bet 9/11 actually doesn't come up, or if it does only to highlight way FEWER people died.

I bet you're right. Never even crossed my mind for my bingo cards.

I can't tell if this is a net positive or a negative thing.

luxury handset
Jan 24, 2018

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON


i figure that trump is going to attack biden about hunter and ukraine, call him a socialist who hates the suburbs, and biden is not going to meaningfully respond to those attacks and instead make vague policy promises about togetherness and unity

i'll skip the debate since it's just another platform for trump to show his rear end and any interesting highlights will be anything anyone is talking about for the next couple days anyway

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


selec posted:

My main interests for the debate tonight:
1. Maniac campaign Trump or drugged out chill Trump?
2. Biden having only minor flubs or something they can make hay with
3. Some left field surprise from Trump like they arrest Hunter Biden during the debate or something psycho

1. not sure. i guessing manic trump for the first debate at least.

2. probaly minor ones. i except him to get mad at one point.

3. who knows. that takes way to much forthought but i could see him maybe calling for his arrest during the debate.




luxury handset posted:

i figure that trump is going to attack biden about hunter and ukraine, call him a socialist who hates the suburbs, and biden is not going to meaningfully respond to those attacks and instead make vague policy promises about togetherness and unity

i'll skip the debate since it's just another platform for trump to show his rear end and any interesting highlights will be anything anyone is talking about for the next couple days anyway

i am probably wrong but i think he will hit on Beau Biden too.

BiggerBoat posted:

I'm not really stressed out at all since:

No matter who wins, I've already lost.

I'm voting for Biden Oct 17th (early voting) and already know it.

The media is going to call it a tie, regardless. FOX News will say Trump won of course.

I doubt anything short of someone pissing their pants, suffering a stroke or saying the n-word on stage is going to move the needle much.

I'm not even sure I'm gonna watch it but have a feeling I won't be able to help myself.

...

I fully expect Trump to come out in full bully mode. Interrupting, talking over his opponent, blustering, lying, etc. and Joe will be in decorum mode playing rope a dope. But I hope Biden gets down in the trenches with Trump. Not by mucking it up where Donald wants it (like the Mutant Leader v Batman in TDKR) but by treating him like the joke he is; using sarcasm, chuckling, belittling him, hand waving his poo poo, calling lies LIES and using his political skills to get under his skin.

Trump wants this to be a made for TV fiasco and his brazenness is well known so Biden has to counter that with some combination of toughness, brevity, calmness, professionalism, dignity and sarcasm. Make Donald look like a fool by moving and jabbing all night and then landing an occasional overhand left.

agreed. i think biden is gonna go presidential mixed with 2012. trumps like a bull or one of those big charging baddies in video games. biden for all his faults should do well against him. i also think we will see some quiet loving hatred from biden tonight.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009




Nap Ghost

Yeah I'm betting he attacks Beau.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Pick posted:

Yeah I'm betting he attacks Beau.

i remeber hearing rumblings about them loving around in Kosovo back when the ukraine stuff was floating about and beau did work in Kosovo for a while. so i can see it.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Famethrowa posted:

it really does feel like kabuki theatre, doesn't it? literally no one's mind is going to be changed here, outside of the handful of Ken Bone dumbasses who are pretending to not be swayed because of some weird bipartisan aestheticism.

just a bunch of people glued to their TV out of stress. horrible.

i think its all about cementing in support from moderates/indies and poo poo. everyone including myself wants this to be a cathartic one sides fist fight against an rear end in a top hat. its basicaly battle of the bastards for sad fucks like me and probably others on here.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Sep 29, 2020

m0therfux0r
Oct 11, 2007

me.

Neurolimal posted:

Foreign Policy isn't even a subject in this first debate, presumably because they didnt want the candidates violently, savagely agreeing with each other.

Tbh Trump is probably better than Biden on foreign policy, just not on purpose. That Soleimani strike was pretty bad but that's it. I'm 100% certain that this has to do more with his incompetence than his actual foreign policy desires, but I do think the outcome is probably better than what a standard Dem would have done. But yeah, aside from the Iran deal, their desired foreign policy is probably exactly the same.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010




Pick posted:

Yeah I'm betting he attacks Beau.

Going after Beau is incredibly stupid. Attacking a war veteran who died of cancer, and giving Biden a platform to tell that story to tens of millions of people who likely have never heard of him, is a gigantic self own. Even attacking Hunter Biden is dumb. No one cares about what someone's adult children are doing. Didn't the GOP's own senate investigation basically end up finding that while the Burisma stuff was not a good look, nothing improper happened?

Sodomy Hussein
Oct 9, 2005

Everything is subject to the needs of intelligence, for geniuses like me. If we actually solve problems, people won't need me and people like me, and this is a travesty without end. You have to squeeze the poor so they know their place, and you fucking commies forget that.


I have absolutely no interest in this debate. Listening to Trump speak is painful and Biden, my last choice for nominee, has my vote locked down unless he literally dies.

quote:

Tbh Trump is probably better than Biden on foreign policy, just not on purpose. That Soleimani strike was pretty bad but that's it. I'm 100% certain that this has to do more with his incompetence than his actual foreign policy desires, but I do think the outcome is probably better than what a standard Dem would have done. But yeah, aside from the Iran deal, their desired foreign policy is probably exactly the same.

Iran
Continuing war in Yemen
Helping to gently caress over the Palestinians
Puerto Rico
Abandoning the Kurds

Yeah hell yeah I love Donald the Dove

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


TyrantWD posted:

Going after Beau is incredibly stupid. Attacking a war veteran who died of cancer, and giving Biden a platform to tell that story to tens of millions of people who likely have never heard of him, is a gigantic self own. Even attacking Hunter Biden is dumb. No one cares about what someone's adult children are doing. Didn't the GOP's own senate investigation basically end up finding that while the Burisma stuff was not a good look, nothing improper happened?

sure but trumps a loving bully rear end in a top hat who gets his rocks off from genuinly making people feel bad. i could see him doing it.

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/...915472708247558

i think we getting high trump.

luxury handset
Jan 24, 2018

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON


TyrantWD posted:

Didn't the GOP's own senate investigation basically end up finding that while the Burisma stuff was not a good look, nothing improper happened?

it's just projection, trump has his own brace of idiot fail sons. if trump wanted to get personal he'd attack biden for being a sex creep except ironically that's likely not to come up because trump doesn't think being a sex creep is a bad quality

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i think its all about cementing in support from moderates/indies and poo poo. everyone including myself wants this to be a cathartic one sides fist fight against an rear end in a top hat. its basicaly battle of the bastards for sad fucks like me and probably others on here.
Biden has a pretty decent-sized polling lead right now so he has every incentive to play it safe and get through this thing without making any mistakes or giving Trump an opening to change the trajectory of the race. So he'll be slightly detached and presidential and give the expected answers to the expected questions.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007



I've got an untouched gram of rosin set aside. Can't wait to crack that baby open and get nice and dug in to watching two pudding-brained old men argue about who will better preside over the fall of the American empire.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


FMguru posted:

Biden has a pretty decent-sized polling lead right now so he has every incentive to play it safe and get through this thing without making any mistakes or giving Trump an opening to change the trajectory of the race. So he'll be slightly detached and presidential and give the expected answers to the expected questions.

yeah. i expect that and if he does fight its gonna be like 2012 or so.

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

I've got an untouched gram of rosin set aside. Can't wait to crack that baby open and get nice and dug in to watching two pudding-brained old men argue about who will better preside over the fall of the American empire.

i am gonna watching with two of my friends on a live chat.

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Canuckistan
Jan 14, 2004

I'm the greatest thing since World War III.



Soiled Meat

Let's get a Discord going.

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