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Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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So I'm on PS4, can someone give me a precis of what advice I should and shouldn't be taking here? I have never played any of these games, I got this because it looks beautiful and I've never played Breath of the Wild.

II have been just burning wishes on the Venti banner and the permanent one whenever I get them or currency to buy them. Is that a mistake? Do I just count the records on the "history" page to see where I am on these "pities"? I have 12 full pages and 3 on the last one so I guess I have pulled 75 times, so I should get Venti or another 5* character in 15 pulls? Is it worth spending REAL DOLLAR BILLS to get to 90 before 10/18?

I just got a Skyward Atlas from the permanent banner so I was super happy to see that come up in conversation on the last page here. Should I use that on Barbara instead of the Dragon Slayer book (+48% dmg for 10s on other chars is really nice!)?

Does raising one character/weapon to 40 affect level scaling or anything? I got Diluc so I have been just min-maxing him. I've maxed and refined a bloodstained sword for him but I got a sacrificial and favonius greatsword, either of those worth switching too even though they are level 1?

Last question, I switched my main char to Geo but her main spell creates this like giant pot with an earth crystal inside which seems to be mainly good for having my character accidentally jump onto and hang there like spiderman getting rocked. What is that? Why do I want that?

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Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Thanks, it sounds like I'm not doing anything horribly wasteful then. I guess the only other question is should I be doing anything special with resin? I killed two rubik's cubes out in the wild and I had to spend resin to collect my prize. Is there any reason I should be saving it or using it in some other way? I'm trying to avoid too many spoilers because it's fun to just run around and encounter stuff.

I went ahead and tossed them $20, this feels a lot more like an AAA game than a mobile conversion. This is a really fun game, I hope they move away from the mobile game stuff in favor of more console-like multiplayer/co-op.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Space Flower posted:

but also, again: not a law out there making any of that illegal. so you could say they're not regulated so completely differently, after all. ok. thank you

Anyone know where Amy Coney Barret stands on this? I've been combing through all her previous gacha-related cases and I haven't found anything useful.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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So I got Mona on my 79th pull from the Venti Banner, does that mean I have to do 90 more to get Venti? Is that even worth doing with it being over on the 18th?

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Working on getting about 12 more pulls to get Venti before the banner is up. Curious if I could clear Abyss 4 or higher, that seems to be the best source of pull currency for me atm. Is there something better to do to get some more pull bucks?

Here is my crew:


I'm using Diluc (no constellation) as DPS with Fischl and Barbara who both have all but their last constellation. I also have Xiangling in reserve with a Crescent Pike and Mona with a Skyward Atlas among others. I mainly don't have a good way to corral/group enemies and Fischl doesn't really take advantage of the electro buff on level 4.

Curios what my best investment is right now or a better strategy, I basically buff with Barbara (dragon tome) whenever I remember, drop the bird with Fischl, attack with Diluc who has 900 ATK. I mainly use traveller when I need some non-fire elemental attacks, I'm just hearing about combining fire with fire so I wonder if Xiangling would be better than traveller. I have a favonius and sacrificial greatsword if either would be better for Diluc.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Tabletops posted:

mona's E is a big totem that taunts mobs. You should be using her.

Xiangling/Diluc/Fischl/Mona or diluc/bennet/fischl/mona (if you need healing)

bennet's a good healer/support and you don't need to level him that much since you'll probably just applying pyro and using his ult unless you can gear him.

I have heard great things about Mona, I think I'll use here - the fire/fire/electro/electro combo sounds pretty good.

edit: well right after I posted I did a single pull and got Venti so I guess he should be worked into one of those combos....

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Flavahbeast posted:

opening a floating crate

Opening a what? Are there sky crates?

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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So I hit abyss 5 and I guess I need to decide on my final three Abyssal Waifu.

Right now I run Diluc as DPS with Barbara as heals and Fischl or Xiangling for support. These are all level 51-60, AR 30, Diluc has about 1350 ATK, Fischl and Barbara are both C5. This absolutely wrecks almost anything but I do struggle with enemies made of fire and with getting chain-frozen because of Barbara's wetness.

I ran a 10 pull on the new banner and got Jean and Sucrose to go with Bennet, Mona, Kaeya, Noelle, Ningguang. So I have a lot of healer options, just not sure who my last DPS and Support are.

I hear good things about both Jean and Ningguang as DPS, and Bennet is supposed to be a no-brainer pick for the Abyss. My only 5* weapon is a Skyward Atlas and I'll have a BP Bounty pick available this week.

Also am I going to have to level Kaeya since he's my only source of cold?

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Right now for Abyss 5+ I am thinking Venti/Diluc/Fishcl/Bennet and Mona/Xiangling/Jean/Barbara. I also have Noelle and Ningguang available.

I haven't levelled Mona, Jean or Bennet, yet. Does anyone see anything horribly wrong with this before I pour another 50 pounds of xp books into the furnace? Will I be in trouble having a pyro main DPS on each team, or for having no cryo or geo?

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Tlee

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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CJ posted:

I got my 10 rolls for the banner and it gave me another lovely Noelle. I just want Sucrose or Xingqiu for the mat saving passive.

EDIT: I got a 10th roll on the beginner banner from getting AR 39 and it gave me another Noelle. :negative:

Noeelllllle, Noelle! Noooooeellleeeee! Noel!

You're. Never. Getting. Another. loving. Character!

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Anime Schoolgirl posted:

i got 0 extra noelles in 90 rolls on this banner

Thhhhhee first Noelle, the Angels did say,
was to secure poor suckers to invest more of their pay
in the mistaken belief that they have some kind of sunk cost in a system built on straight up Skinnerian ratio schedules
on a cold winter's night that waaaa--aasss so deep

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Sanya Juutilainen posted:

Counter-point - got my Qiqi from the 3rd 10-pull I did on it.

That's not a counter-point, that's the text from one of the posters they put up outside of Casinos.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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No Wave posted:

With all the mistakes I've invested into I wouldn't mind if they required three parties for abyss next time. Would make me feel better.

Third party automatically uses your lowest level characters just to make sure you're showing everyone equal love.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Nuebot posted:

Only 4 clubs? You disappoint me.

I hate it when I'm waiting on a flush and then a drat bow comes up on the river...

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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So my Diluc is 70 now with a Prototype Animus, at what point do I start stacking Crit%? Right now I have Pyro%-ATK%-ATK% artifacts.

My big problem now is getting my 2nd team tuned. Xiangling/Jean/Mona/Barbara, Xiangling does a ton of damage but I'm finding it hard to group up enemies and I wind up wasting a lot of ultimates on 1 or 2 monsters. Jean just seems to shotgun them. Maybe Venti has me completely spoiled. I did get 3xSucrose with this new banner so I could maybe sub her in, when I did Co-Op domains she seemed good at it.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Jinnigan posted:

You can also use Fishl's Oz (you have to drop him over the weight, then charged shot him), and Ningguang's Giant Wall

Should I charge shot this dude when I drop him? I usually just pop in, drop the bird, fire off a couple auto attacks, then swap back to my DPS.

This level 7 abyss is hard, these fatties don't care about any of my CC, my only cryo is Kaeya at level 21, and my best healer gets me frozen all the time.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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So I am hitting AR40 soon, Diluc and Venti at c0 and 70 on character and weapon, Fischl and Barbara at c5 and 60-62.

I thought I would go to WL 5 but I am hearing horror stories. Am I going to start having trouble with the weekly bosses (dragon and wolf)?

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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So this dragon and this wolf are supposed to be the main source of prototypes, I've killed both of them at AR 25, 30, 35, and 40 and haven't seen a single one. 4 of my levelled characters use the crafted weapons.

I spent all my resin and one recharge yesterday on the Noblesse Oblige domain and got 2 useless pieces (+DEF) in 10 runs.

I need 40+ blue talent books for all my characters, at AR40 I'm still seeing about 1.5 per domain.

It feels like an awfully low rate of return for both the resin and the effort. I hadn't noticed so much because the game was throwing fragile resin and chests at me like crazy but man now it's pretty much the suck.

I love the exploration and I'm enjoying beating the Spiral Abyss but this is starting to feel more like a marriage than a game. I'm barely allowed to do anything before I'm done and I get almost nothing for what little I'm able to do.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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RPATDO_LAMD posted:

You're basically spreading your resources out way too thinly.
There's no way you need to max out 4 weapons at once, and going through the talent book hellgrind on every single character instead of just your main carries is a real bad idea (and one that won't really give much benefit).
Once you get talents to level 6 it gets even worse and they start requiring RNG drops from the AR40+ weekly bosses to even level.

Trying to max my 2 carries and get level 60 or 60+ with +4-+8 artifacts on the other 6. The problem I have is the ones where I would really want to level talents for support (Jean, Bennet, Mona) are all the same book as Diluc. I'm not really sure at this point what I should focus on, artifacts seem to offer more bang for the buck than talents or weapon upgrades but based on what people are saying here maybe I should just chill on that until AR 45.

I feel like the power curve suddenly became a whole lot steeper with only a minimal increase in the drops needed to climb it from boss and domain clears. I know all games do that, it just seems really severe and abrupt in this one, especially considering it happens around the time chest drops become practically nonexistent. In particular the drops from the weekly bosses seem really stingy.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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No Wave posted:

I've claimed 0 rewards from domains of blessing. I'm AR41 and I'm on spiral abyss 11th floor (I'm getting cold feet when it comes to leveling crescent pike to 80). I'm mentioning this because I don't think I'm very behind in terms of party strength from where a domain farmer would be.

I don't think pre-45 artifact rewards are worth it compared to the guaranteed slow gains from leveling my Fischls, Bennetts, and Ventis to at least 70 and ascending them (I also really would like to get Barbara to 60 and ascend her).

How do you mean leveling, running Blossom of Revelation? Where are you getting the mora without running blessing?

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Ashenai posted:

This should be super easy to prove. Streamers and youtube let's plays exist: I want to see cuts of a stream where the streamer walks by a place with no chest, and then that same place later has a chest.

The fact that no one has produced such a cut (despite there being a ridiculous number of Genshin streams) is making me very suspicious.

Tsyni posted:

I'm 100% certain I had a seelie respawn. Maybe it was a bug, but it's a very particular seelie in Monstadt that creates wind rings that you fly down and then land on a pillar and get a chest.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Ashenai posted:

Putting some resources into Barbara (especially her HP) isn't wasted, since her abilities scale with her HP. Making her your primary DPS is... inadvisable, I think she might be literally the worst choice for a DPS carry in the entire game.

I was adding attack and hydro to take down fire shields in Spiral Abyss then I read somewhere that level, attack, and damage make no difference when taking down shields.

I also wasn't aware there was some damage/resistance modifier applied to combat based on the difference in your characters' levels and the levels of the enemies.

Is there some kind of mechanics guide to this somewhere? I have searched reddit, the forums, and the web on the level difference but all I get are 1,000 pages telling me how to level my characters (find stuff and kill stuff).

Ashenai posted:

Oh also her C6 is extremely sick nasty. But, again, in her role as support.

I have a C5 Barbara :negative:

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Hi posted:

Well I guess the follow up is... is there anything out there besides a random chest that im sure is there?

I dunno, do you hate quests and treasure and ancient magical devices? If so, stay away from there!

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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TV Zombie posted:

I kinda have to beat them in order to obtain a chest and complete a quest though.
xingqiu, fischl,kaeya and xiangliang

1. Hydro is the healer (blue/water shield). Use Fischl ultimate/bird then then focus them down. The bird will break the shield. Don't use Xiang's burst/ultimate.

2. Switch to Xiang and fire off your ultimate on the ice skirmisher, then swap to Fischl to get the bird out, then whatever your normal rotation is. The fire ultimate will break the shield then you can focus them down.

3. Break the lightning guy's shield with Xinqqui. Kill him dead.

Lightning skirmisher is your big hitter but he only has a couple attack patterns and they are well telegraphed. If he is interfering too much with steps 1 and 2, he's much more aggressive and faster than the rest so you can generally pull him away. The other thing to not get caught with is the ice flamethrower - dodge behind the ice guy to avoid this or freeze him with Kaeya if you're able to at 40...

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Mr Snips posted:

I got Klee from the character banner

I will now proceed to never use her except for when her passive ability will come in handy farming resources in Mondstadt

Except when you do the flower girl quest and she starts providing radar cover for every mushroom and dandelion within a hundred yards...

How much better than Xiangling is Klee? Seems like Klee would work better with Bennet but my other DPS is Diluc so I'd have 3 fire DPS. I feel like if I'm going to level another character it should be the new cryo bow guy since Kaeya is my only cryo. I don't think I'll have the resources until the new area comes out anyway...

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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kater posted:

lol the bunker has a 12 hour respawn? thats funny.


Lechtansi posted:

What is this artifact room everyone keeps talking about?

#5 on this map:


Route is at https://fragstrat.com/genshin-impact/daily-artifact-exp-farming-route

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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She's just changing her boots guys, have you seen the boots in this game? Do you have any idea how much those things must pinch your toes? And then you have Venti running around in slip-on penny loafers...

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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So I got Klee's c1 only like 30 pulls from first Klee along with Noelle's c5.

I'm sure it's not worth it to increase our trade deficit with China enough to get another Klee but I hear Noelle's C6 is insane. Is it worth it to throw more pulls at this banner hoping for that?

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Danann posted:

Levelled the feather to +4, and I got +atk%.



Now if only the rest goes into crit damage.

jfc now you're just straight up posting porn

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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The White Dragon posted:

i think the vertical hitbox on the first hit of jean's ult is way too tiny. i can't hit enemies who aren't perfectly aligned with her on flat ground. does anyone else who has jean feel like they're having this problem?

i also don't get swirls in it unless i use it right above water, so i'm not sure where people are coming from when they say they get a lot of mileage out of it

while you are helping this person also help me understand how to use Jean when I have a controller instead of a mouse and can't just sit there in a fugue state waving a bunch of guys back and forth over the barrier....

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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The best part about the BP and event being on pause is they're taken off the PS4 shortcut wheel so now there's a smaller chance of me opening the wrong thing eleven times in a row trying to get to the map.

Of course I still have the joy of "OH DID YOU WANT TO PICK UP ALL THOSE ARROWHEADS IT SEEMED YOU CLEARLY WANTED TO COOK SOMETHING ON THIS COOKING POT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN INSTEAD"

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Araganzar
May 24, 2003

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Where the hell is the person that starts the reputation quests in mondstat I've been running around this goddamn town for 20 minutes looking for her

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