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 Himalayan blackberries in the Northwest do not play games. My last thread is still going because I'm still trying to finish the House of Theseus to sell it. But things are ramping up on the new place so rather than continue with that megathread I figured I'd start a new one and try to stay on topic. My wife hates New England winters, summers, bloodsucking bugs, etc. She's not wrong, Washington is a much better place. I just never knew any better since I grew up in New England. So we are finishing and selling that house to fund building the house and shop-barn-mahal we actually want, on 5 acres of land West of Seattle. How it looked when we bought it: (Placeholder until I find and upload old pics) When we bought it, it had just been logged and halfheartedly replanted with Douglas fir by the loggers. And it had a 6 year development moratorium on it because of the type of permit they logged it under. That was in late 2016; the moratorium would be up in late 2022 but we jumped through a bunch of hoops and got it lifted. We also spent a week in January 2019 replanting it with literally a thousand more seedlings. (Placeholder till I find and upload old pics) Ideally, it will grow back into a forest and we can hide here forever and tell the rest of the world to go screw. If things really go south we will try and pick up one of the neighboring vacant lots for farming purposes as well. Next, construction plans!
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We just finally got our septic plan approved a few months ago and have been playing email and phone tag with the well driller. Last week I finally got plans set in stone to come out for well drilling this week. So I hopped on a plane Monday and holy poo poo, the place is overgrown, and it was not that bad in early March when I came here for septic planning and soil logging. Time to dive in. It took me 15 minutes to thrash my way through 300 feet of blackberries, recover my loppers, slog back 200 feet, and then another 2 hours to clear this entrance road of brush and blackberries.  Looking in from the road, after cutting out a bunch more blackberries and scotch broom.  Then the well drillers unofficially let me borrow their mini excavator to make it so they could actually drill the well this week instead of having to clear this themselves. This is a lot faster.  Well goes right about there.  Access road after hand-clearing it and then driving the excavator over what was left a few times.  Well drilling site is cleared and mostly leveled. Sad to monster-truck a dozen or so of the trees we planted, but the barn is gonna go on this footprint anyways roughly so we didn't really lose much.  Looking the other way.  This is the rough layout we're planning on.  (Google earth screenshot here) The public utility quoted us 30k for grid hookup so it's uncertain if we're paying that, doing all the work but the grid tie ourselves, or going wind and solar because OW. We will be living in an RV until my house sells, at which point it's full speed ahead on building the barn, then park the RV in the barn and live in it while building the house. kastein fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Oct 1, 2020 |
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It'll be slow going for a while. All I expect to get done over the next few months (hopefully) is septic plan final approval, septic install, talk to the neighbors and utility about collaborating on grid hookup, and begin drafting plans for the house and barn. Well drilling rig won't be here till late today at the earliest. I was hoping we would be drilling today but they texted me last night after having a mechanical failure. Guess I'm probably flying home Sunday not tomorrow at this point.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I'm looking forward to following this! Do you know how far down the water table is? Neighbors well is just under 100 feet, we're hoping for the same. I can't guarantee space for anyone, but there's plenty of land for sale cheap on this street and I'd love to have more like minded people around.
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Sorry dude, yeah the blackberries are rabid. At least you didn't get a nail through your foot in my kitchen like Slow is Fast did back in 2012ish though. (For the record, I did warn people not to step on piles of debris.)immoral_ posted:I'm just here for the inevitable tinbanging in a year and a half. I'll be using a much more traditional unit for this house and designing it to have ducts run from square 1 instead of having to shoehorn them in after the fact. So it'll be a lot more boring this time. Hell, I'll be able to do a proper manual-J without going loving insane. I wouldn't be surprised if it's all 16x8 and 8in round with no custom parts except the tees and some transitions. I like our midea mid static ducted units performance, but I'm not very impressed with their tech support (they completely ignored me despite me literally asking them simple questions so I could buy things from them) documentation or spare parts availability.
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Put it this way, we paid 23k for just over 5 acres, the 40 acre lot that hasn't been logged in 20 years and has a nice young forest growing on it already is valued at 250k. Well drillers just finally got their service truck here. They went to go get the drilling rig next. Cross your fingers we will be drilling by end of tonight and hopefully finish up tomorrow. There's basically no code enforcement aside from building permit stuff, if you want to have 20 dead cars in your yard go right ahead. I will hopefully have a 40x80 barn with a 2 post lift in it set up by end of next year. Anyone who isn't a terrible person is welcome to use it when I'm not doing so. I looked up the neighbors well and it's 97 feet. They never even hit bedrock, the whole well is in overburden. Really hoping we hit after around the same depth. kastein fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Oct 2, 2020 |
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I had a whole big post written up about how nice it is but the awful app decided to eat my post draft for some reason so... It's nice. Really nice. Very mild most of the year. Fin. Service truck got here.  And the drilling rig backing in.  They're good at this poo poo. Actually got the well a couple feet further away from the barn corner than I was hoping, AKA my barn can be bigger now.  All set up and ready for morning. Hopefully I have good news tomorrow.  I've got some more blackberries to kill now so that's all for today.
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They do, but I arrived right about when most of the fruit is old and rotting on the vines. I guess a few weeks ago was blackberry season. Alright... I should get my rear end up and finish clearing the blackberries from around the rig.
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Because I'm a bull in a china shop who barely knows which control to grab  I actually did do that on some of this area. I'm also trying to preserve as many of the trees we planted as possible because we want this to be a forest not a field, and I'm nowhere near good enough with the machine to avoid running poo poo over that I don't want to.
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It took me a good solid half day on Tuesday to be grabbing the right lever and moving it on the right axis at least 80% of the time. I'm not known for being well coordinated. I've run a mid 70s Case 580b but never a modern joystick machine. Wednesday I was a bit better after sleeping on my learning, and I actually did pretty alright today clearing enough space for their rollback truck loaded with drill rod and well casing to back into. They're 20ft down, casing seal bentonite in and welding the next 20ft of casing on now. 
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Alright! Well is drilled. They hit water at 128ft, but we put another 20ft of casing in after that whole stick was done (total of 160ft) to improve flow and give access to more reserve capacity during dry summers. A bit more expensive than we were hoping, the plan was 100ft, but hopefully it's a once in a lifetime cost. This is the second 20ft length of pipe going in. Volume warning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80c9o_kxO20 Then weld the next 20ft on and repeat.   Pound and drill until it's at chest level again. Repeat.  Testing water level: you pull the drill bit as far up as you can, then turn the air compressor on and lower the bit until you start getting water. That's about the quiescent level of the water in the casing. Indicated by first finger in camera field of view. The bottom of the casing is about level with the drilling platform, give or take a few feet. We should have roughly 32ft of water in the casing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRMA3xR5tvM That's all for today. Well flow test, liner, and capping tomorrow.
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It appears that quartz is harder than the other kind of stone in this pebble. Glacial till, I wonder where the stone actually came from? Probably Canada or something. Well drillers notes.  Translated: 158' of casing from top of casing to bottom of screen Top of screen is 150'8" below top of casing We hit water initially at 128' below surface Water level in casing rose to 118'5" after recovering from drilling (which forces a buttload of air into the soil, probably depressing water level a bit, plus a bit of static pressure) A bit over 32' of water standing in the casing Tested at 10gpm (what I asked for) for like 15 minutes while flushing the filter media sand around the screen, it is already coming out pretty clean and level dropped 6'6" in the process. Recovered nicely in a few minutes. Some kind of magic math told him this well is theoretically good for 49gpm. That's WAY over what we need, even though the state likely will mandate a fire suppression system given climate change and the fact that Oregon had bad wildfires this year. I don't disagree with them on this. Well well well what do we have here 
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Well. That's a great question. I've never had to, in New England a drought means it's still raining, just not as much as we would like. I need to get ahold of the code book for fire suppression and start planning. I assume I'll need sprinklers inside and if they have adopted the California system, I may need to put exterior and/or roof sprinklers and a large pressure tank in. I'm also going to have to ask about setback between trees and building. We were hoping to go with the "cabin nestled into a grove of trees" thing, but that won't play well with fire safety and home insurance probably won't like it either now that I think about it.
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The plan is standing seam metal roofs. I don't ever want to do a roof again. Exterior wall covering I was debating between hardiboard, vinyl, and cedar shakes. I may do vinyl first just because it's fast and cheap and will give me time to let finances recover (ha! Like that ever happens), or might do hardiboard lookalike cedar shakes. I really like the way shakes look but they certainly are flammable, we use low grade ones from my shim shingle bundle as firestarter material out east. Trim will be 100% PVC. I don't ever want to have to worry about rot.
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Oh holy poo poo, I read something a while ago that said the major cost was labor and I guess either I was wrong or cost has gone way up. Because I'm not paying the price I see listed for that. Asphalt it is.
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I saw prices in the 3 to 4 dollar a square foot range when I checked it again after you all told me it was expensive. I don't like the kind with the exposed screws. That only lasts as long as the gaskets on the screws which entirely ruins the point of using it. The roof on my hangar is done that way and dozens of screw holes are leaking right now because the rubber donuts have dried up and rotted, the place is a wreck. And yeah, elviscat is local. Hell, I'm pretty sure after last week my land has his blood on it sorry it's so drat thorny still dude.
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What I'm talking about is made from galvanized steel or aluminum these days and is apparently called SL150. Every website selling it is playing real coy about the price and trying to get me to ask for a quote which I loving hate. Just tell me the goddamn price, people. Anyways, it snap locks on over bracket things you screw down every 12 to 24 inches depending on wind loading. I asked one site to spam me forever, if it's crazy expensive I'm buying gaf elk timberline HD architectural shingles again. I've been pretty happy with them here and they come out to around a dollar a square foot.
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stackofflapjacks posted:I'm wondering about where you are finding cheap land, on the peninsula? Or one of the islands in the sound? I have family all over the I-5 corridor but I'm looking for the future home plot that is secluded and comes with a few acres. Obviously not trying to get your exact address but just wondering about the area and your site selection. Check zipcode 98351 and 98349. Be warned that commuting from there to anywhere except port orchard or bremerton will be horrible and it might cost you 5 figures to get your power hooked up.
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Options at present: Dialup if you can get anyone to string copper that far out Wave if you're North of a certain point on the peninsula which we are not Hughesnet satellite (the first H is silent) Two cans and a very long piece of string That's... About it. No cable, no dsl this far south. At all. No fiber. If things go well for starlink I'll probably be a customer. If they go poorly I hope to start my own ISP and sell internet to a few hundred of my neighbors instead of having a corporate job.
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I only get 1 to 2 bars of Verizon in one corner of the property. That is an option with a nice directional antenna like you have but I'm hoping to not rely on it.
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The county did their well inspection and were happy, haven't gotten lab test results on the water quality back yet. The next thing after that is septic plan approval (it's waiting on well approval) and then install. I'm looking at metal buildings for the barn right now and prices aren't bad. It looks like I could get a 40x80 kit for around 20k. Not sure if we're going wood or metal yet, but it's nice to see prices in that range. Also the house out east is getting much closer to ready for sale so this thread will probably pick up a bit sometime before spring, hopefully...
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I'm just hoping it doesn't have anything toxic in it! Last night I looked into fire protection rules, Pierce county code 17C. It looks like if we build under 2k sqft (already planned that), stay 30' from property lines (already planned that), use a class A roof covering per UL 790 (already planned that, metal roofing and the GAF shingles I used on our current house both qualify), and use fiber cement siding we are exempt from fire water supply requirements. But since I know gently caress-all about sprinkler system costs and DIY seems to know more than me about such things, what am I looking at cost wise here anyways? I might do one regardless. What are the expensive parts I'll need to budget for? Permitting/inspection fees will be low since I'm not paying a contractor hourly to do it, I'm only really worried about the costs of any big ticket items I don't know I'll need yet. Is it really just a backflow preventer and a controller with a few valves? What kind of sensors and annunciators am I gonna be on the hook for here with a basic residential system? E: wow it's even simpler than that, from what I can tell, just a flow sensor to set off the alarms, pressure gauge, backflow preventer, heads, and piping (special color so people don't tap into it for potable water). This seems like a no brainer choice. kastein fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Nov 26, 2020 |
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immoral_ posted:All I know about fire suppression systems can be boiled down to, the installers a generally pretty cool to work with, will reroute(to a limit) any time you need them to. But if you don't get to them real drat early, you're going to have sprinkler pipes/hangers in every spot you were going to put some. It really SHOULD be that the trade with the least movable things (rigid ducts, then sewer pipe, imo) gets first dibs, but from the inter-trade wars I see on Facebook, I'm guessing that isn't a thing. Luckily I'm wearing all of those hats so I have only myself to blame if I put something in my own way. Which I have done in the past.
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Honestly most of the debate I see seems to be the electricians complaining about the sheetrock guys just blatantly covering up their boxes, which blows my mind, having done both jobs. I have no idea how anyone can hang sheetrock over a box sticking out a half inch and not notice unless they were completely blasted out of their mind on something. And occasionally plumbing or hvac being in the way... Sorry not much you can do about that without screwing things up bad, run the wires around.
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Just the empty shell, doesn't even include doors. Cistern doesn't bother me since we have tons of room, pump sounds maybe expensive though.
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Wow that's some bullshit. Well driller and I talked today, they had to re-chlorinate and retest this week, apparently the first (and maybe second? I didn't get a good idea of how many times they've run the samples) sample failed for coliform bacteria. Not fecal coliform, just coliform, he says it's been happening a lot this year for some reason and it should be fine. It's something to do with the cleanliness of the well install, I'm guessing because their equipment and well casing stockpile sits outside in their equipment lot and something is getting on it.
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Yup. They got a passing sample this time, just got the notification from him!
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We are clear to begin septic work but have been holding off as the previous house *still* isn't done. Something something 90/900 rule of project management
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I do, but I also don't want to, given that I want a nice modern framed house that will meet earthquake codes over there (Also most of the trucks are for sale or being parted out, I'm only keeping the blue one and the Honcho.) At this point I think we will be on site permanently around late July, with several trips out to prep between now and then.
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GREETINGS INTERNET BLACKBERRY ENTHUSIASTS So Thursday we flew into LAX, rode North to Nipomo with my in-laws. Took stock of the condition of the beast, planned Friday parts and tools acquisition. Condition: Hasn't driven in 3? 5? 10? Years. Uncertain. "Overheated once but we filled it right back up", radiator chock full of brownish blackish foamy sludge of indeterminate provenance. 2008 date coded tires with the Grand Canyon dry cracked into the sidewalls. Cooling system had a gallon of liquid in it but that's it. Many dead bulbs. Batteries totally shot. Roof tarped because it leaks. Belts crusty and flapping. Etc etc etc Bought some new radiator hoses, oil change, fuel filter, trans filter, belts, etc. New starting battery. Got it to hold water, filled it up, got it started, verified it holds pressure. New wipers, fixed all the exterior lighting, changed the oil. I'm out of time or I'd change the trans fluid too, it looks alright. Got new tires on it today. Remaining repairs needed: belts, patch roof, waterproof the window on the door. We start the 1200 mile drive tomorrow. I would post pics but my phone has its head up its rear end and so does the imgur app so... No pictures because it's 2021 and software developers have made uploading and hotlinking a jpeg loving impossible. Hopefully we make it there, if so we'll be in Washington later this week and... Then flying back east again. kastein fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jun 8, 2021 |
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Alarbus is correct. My wife inherited (well, early, they realized they weren't safe to drive it anymore, nor fix it, and wanted it out of the driveway) a 1994 Safari Trek 2830 RV which we will be living in while we build the barn and house. Then restoring it after. We're currently within 20ish miles of our place. Stopped by some friends on the way there and stayed later than planned. Most of the passes and grades on 101 and i5 were brutal since this thing weighs 11000lb and has a whole 135hp at sea level, but it made it.
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cursedshitbox posted:good god a 4BD in that thing? how fast were you pulling hills? 20mph? lmao My *hip* went through the roof while I was patching it. I'm hosed, I'm going to have to redo the entire structure I'm assuming. I made it waterproof again but it's not pretty. Are these wood or metal house frame? Yeah, criminally slow. I think we dropped to 25 or 30 on the Mount Shasta grades and the same on Siskiyou. Cuesta was brutal too, I had to stop and cool down to avoid hitting the red zone. But we made it and I'm fighting blackberries right now. The fuel tank is alright, it fits at least 35ish gallons on this model. We filled up 3 times after starting with a nearly full tank and ended up with about half a tank. E: oh hey the spec sheet I have looked at ten times in the last 2 weeks says 33 gallons. It has been getting nearly 12mpg with my foot on the floor. kastein fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jun 10, 2021 |
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theparag0n posted:I think "Free RV" is somewhere between "Free car" and "Free boat" in the list of most expensive objects in the universe But mostly it's just going to get waterproofing silicone painted onto the roof next time I'm out there (so we can take the tarp off) and livability improvements till we have the barn built. cursedshitbox posted:Metal framing is usually some 1x1 or 1x2 along the edges. Wood is similar materials, with a ton of staples/glue. If its an aluminum frame it will tout it on the marketing materials. It honestly doesn't mean much as it still needs to rely on wood otherwise the aluminum will just crack. It will still use wood around windows and vent mounts. In the middle of the roof its all "structural" 1/8" plywood glued to styrofoam. Facets like vents and such will have some wooden/metal/plastic reinforcement framing around it, sometimes with a crossmember that ties it into the side beams(A/C). These are built in sections, from the inside out. The exterior walls are built on a table, pressed together, then bolted to the coach. - 1/8 - ERROR: DOES NOT COMPUTE No pyro, the answer to how hard it was working is "my right foot is literally sore from pushing the drat pedal into the floorboards for a thousand miles". I just got home and peeled out of the drugstore parking lot by accident because I jumped on the drat throttle like I was still hauling 11k lbs with 135hp My rough plan was something like that - pull it apart, see how it was put together, put it back together better. The outside skin isn't really rippled anywhere (probably mostly because most of it is aluminum!) and I want to keep it that way. I'm very curious about how the roof support structure is put together. Some of the sections of Shasta and Siskiyou were so bad I moved into the breakdown lane to let dumptrucks roll past me in the slow lane as I chugged along because I didn't want to gently caress them over or lose any momentum myself. Legal? Probably not. But it served everyone's interests better than anything else I could come up with. I think we passed less than a dozen vehicles in a thousand miles.
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Oh I know, this time it's just got wheels. Honestly, all my houses and jeeps are the same, rotten basket cases with bad sills and/or roofs. The difference is I am NOT touching the structure on the RV until the shop and house are built... by me... correctly. I slapped a bunch of Henry Tropi-Cool White 100% silicone roof sealant (about the consistency of cold molasses, you brush or roll it on, comes in gallon cans) on the worst spots and that got us to Washington without any leakage, it started leaking the first time it rained up there so we tarped it. I'll probably head back in a few weeks to register some of our moving trailers there, prep the construction area more, talk to the county building inspectors about my plans, and put another gallon on the rest of the roof so it'll actually be watertight. At that point it can remain half rotten until I have my big shop ready to work on it in. Never doing major structural repairs on a house/RV while living in it again.
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I actually already measured the opening in the floor for exactly that reason. It's 22.25 wide and 28.75 long, iirc, though those notes appear to have not made it into my google keep file on it. I know it's just barely too small to fit an LS through  The 3.9 seems reliable but holy gently caress it's so gutless. I want something else in there eventually, after the barn's built. Unfortunately I'm already back in Mass for a bit. We had a hard deadline because we had to pick the dog back up from doggie spa resort club and the chickens needed food and water by a certain date. Since it's not waterproof yet and the parcel isn't ready for it to be there yet (it's staying under a tarp in a neighbor's yard, luckily we have awesome neighbors) I'll probably be heading back out in a few weeks for another run and we might even be moving out there permanently before the end of your stay. You're absolutely welcome to come by at any time, hell, if you want to camp there for free to keep the loving druggies off it, I can give you the location and tell the neighbors that you're cool before you show up so you don't get run off. It's a great little area of anarchy, basically everyone on the street agrees that the rules are "don't gently caress with anyone else's happiness for no reason and gently caress the drug den at the end of the road". End goal on the RV is essentially that, if we have to strip it to the studs to get the rot out, so be it. I don't WANT to do that, but I will if I have to. I just hope there's enough of the roof structure left to make patterns off of, since it's all curved and poo poo. The walls are just right angles, I can patch that poo poo in my sleep, it's squarer than my last house was. e: I got a dirtbiker/former XJ+ZJ guy in Bend who you'd probably get along well with, too.
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The 40 acre plot to the West of us I don't think is on the market, but I bet the right amount of money would take it. It's a bad market for this right now but I bet if you waited a few months and offered some cash they would sell. Trees on it are like 20 years old IIRC, it's a nice piece of land. There are a few parcels further south along the next leg of the road that are currently on market, I think one is 5 acres, unlogged, and asking 70k? A few of the guys connected to the organic farming co-op(?)/cult(?) on the next three parcels over are considering that one, mostly just to keep it from being logged or methed. There's a few logged parcels for sale too but I suspect you'd prefer trees. All of those parcels are closer to a primary line and transformer than us and the 40ac one, so they're probably worth the extra cash right there alone if you were planning on grid tie in, honestly, even though I'm a stingy gently caress and hate paying prices with more than low five figures for anything. The $70k parcel is basically selling for what the loggers paid for ours with timber, plus what it'll cost us for grid tie in, even with the market being way up. 4BTs have a stupid price premium, though I do think they're decent. I'm actually considering an LS still, even if I have to make the hole a little bigger or put it in in pieces, they're a crazy attractive price per hp... and I already own a drat 345hp LQ9 I could dump in there with an Allison 1000 out of an 8.1 truck/avalanche, shove a cam in, and have triple the horsepower it has now. I need to double check if it'll clear the frame rails, if it will, it's a done deal - don't care if I have to pull the intake and heads to get it through the hole.
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WELL  Our house out east is shockingly empty. Should help making it much easier to finish, we're in the final stretch now.
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Just the one so far. I've known this was coming for several years at least so I've been using up car project parts, returning anything I ended up not using to home Depot for store credit (which gets used on paint and mud), selling stuff off, and giving away literal truckloads of things I deemed not worth selling. That's been in process in earnest since like 2017, and I did a bunch a few years before that just to make the place more livable when I met my wife because I'd been living the bachelor life for half a decade and the place was a horror show. The last two years I've really kicked it up a notch, I've gone from something like twelve cars (one or two running at any given time) to seven (5 running or will run in 5 minutes or less), soon to be 2 to 3 cars that all run, and we fit almost everything from the house into a single 16ft pod. I would pretty confidently say that I can fit all my remaining tools and project materials that I'm moving into at most one more 16ft pod, possibly even a smaller one, and there's a good chance I'll just use a trailer instead. It looks like a U-Haul 6x12 enclosed would cost a quarter what the pod does and a U-Haul 20ft truck would cost about half the pod price... Not including gas. Either way it's good to know what it'll take. We got a crazy amount of stuff into that pod, I wasn't sure if we were going to have way too much extra room due to lack of prep or nowhere near enough room but I certainly wasn't expecting it to fill that nicely.
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I believe the limit we were given was 4500 but I looked at the pod itself and the manufacturers rating was 7440. Then I messaged a friend who works there and he laughed at me a lot for even thinking about it, said he had one on his forklift that was over 10k that day and had seen significantly heavier than that pretty regularly and that they literally do not give one poo poo and just give a number to keep people from like, filling them with cement blocks. The driver picked it up and drove off with it, no fucks given.
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Some of the D rings were missing in ours but yes. We Tetris-mastered it in there pretty tight till just before the third stud, put plywood across the stuff, a few bikes in, then ratchet straps across all that to keep it from sliding towards the door. Then made a backup wall out of shelving unit shelves and rope, then more bicycles and ratchet straps, then the tires (and more ratchet straps), then tossed the random stuff that was left on top of the tires. Hopefully it'll stay put. Elviscat - thanks dude! I'll let you know when we're headed out to unpack it.
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Aug 1, 2021 07:16
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