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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Killer robot posted:

I don't know if these were the kind of spas which are fronts for sex work or the kind which absolutely are not,

the two that got shot up in atlanta and not in the suburbs, were in the only spot in atlanta which could be vaguely considered a red light district. whether or not they actually were venues for the sex trade, the fact that the shooter drove to this specific neighborhood indicates to me that his actions were sex motivated

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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp

A big flaming stink posted:

did you read it? this is the literal text of the article


i fail to see how my assessment of the essence of biden's statement differs from that article

In the full interview he clearly says "Don't leave because we're working on setting up a system so you can apply from the community you're trying to escape from"

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

In the full interview he clearly says "Don't leave because we're working on setting up a system so you can apply from the community you're trying to escape from"

Sure but that's what's in the article and that's what the poster was being chastised for not reading.

I agree the quote is not quite as bad and has been edited for maximum controversy, but it's ABC doing that not the poster.

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

In the full interview he clearly says "Don't leave because we're working on setting up a system so you can apply from the community you're trying to escape from"

Thanks for posting this! Definitely gives a fuller context of that clip that they had previously tweeted.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling
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Ultra Carp
I will agree the Axios article is hilariously devoid of context, and the ABC article isn't much better.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Thread revived! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3848439&pagenumber=7

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails



God Bless You

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Thanks Grouchio!

All right, folks, let's move the immigration convo over there, since I expect that thread will outlive this one.

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

SporkOfTruth posted:

This is from a bit back, but G. Elliot should know better than to do this, barf. What a completely toxic and moronic application of an already stupid concept (replacement levels are arbitrary thresholds of labor exploitability, not political baselining!).

Anyone applying a child's understanding of baseball statistics to politics should be cast into hell.

The enormous problem with this analysis is that it discounts the fact that the ideology-based electability isn't directly dependent on the average partisan lean of a state/district in a two-party winner-takes-all system. The candidates that do well will (more-or-less) reflect the partisan lean of their voters, and the winner is the one that manages to do so better than the other candidate (+- all the other stuff that goes into voting). While partisan lean of a state and the distribution of ideology within voting blocks are going to be correlated, it's definitely not 1-1. Plus, it creates highly misleading axis intercepts that lead to his ridiculous interpretation that most Democratic would be replaced by someone to the right of them (and to the left for Republicans, if he had bothered to make that chart).

E: Unless I'm missing a component of the construct - no time for a deeper dive.

Stickman fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Mar 17, 2021

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Acebuckeye13 posted:

In the full interview he clearly says "Don't leave because we're working on setting up a system so you can apply from the community you're trying to escape from"

Just get on the internet and fill out this form, or drop it in your local warlord run mail box if your internet connection was cut off or never installed in the first place because some nameless country destabilized your government as a favor to a multinational corporation, then wait six to eight months in the community you're trying to escape from for a response letter containing your position in next year's visa lottery. Its important you don't move during this time so the letter gets to your address. To help you out during the wait, we've put together a list of helpful tips for surviving violent and oppressive regimes formed in the wake of US foreign 'diplomacy'. We'll be pre-emptively mailing those forms out to Iran. And don't think we forgot about you Venezuela, the first coup attempt might not have taken but we'll keep backing Guaido until it does. Your letter is in the mail.

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1371897154571239427

How do these people get so rich if they have such proclivity for sinking money into unbelievably dumb poo poo

It's a political investment. And likely a data harvesting operation.

Breitbart isn't about "making money" either. It's a fascist propaganda tool.

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

Important series of six articles, on the historical roots of some of the forces that have been loving the world:

https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1370469022379216902?s=20

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Important series of six articles, on the historical roots of some of the forces that have been loving the world:

https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1370469022379216902?s=20

drat you for posting this when only 5 out of 6 articles are finished! :argh:

(This is good stuff though)

J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.


Bucky Fullminster posted:

Important series of six articles, on the historical roots of some of the forces that have been loving the world:

https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1370469022379216902?s=20

Just started reading it, and wouldn't you know it, they got some oldies but goodies in here. John Birch Society nuts, Roy Cohn, Phyllis Schlafly, Reagan, a laundry list of the shittiest figures in American History.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Relevant Tangent posted:

Pettiness is one of Trump's defining character traits.

Yes. Expecting Trump not to be a whiny little bitch every day till he finally strokes out and dies goes completely against everything he is from birth. That's part of why his cult loves him so much, it makes them feel powerful for being whiny little bitches too

Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:

the two that got shot up in atlanta and not in the suburbs, were in the only spot in atlanta which could be vaguely considered a red light district. whether or not they actually were venues for the sex trade, the fact that the shooter drove to this specific neighborhood indicates to me that his actions were sex motivated

Wonder if maybe he actually went to them before expecting a happy ending and was pissed when he got nothing

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
Chase bank account reporting in, just got my BidenBux. Used direct deposit for my 2020 tax return.

Leon Sumbitches
Mar 27, 2010

Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.





Sir Lemming posted:

Chase bank account reporting in, just got my BidenBux. Used direct deposit for my 2020 tax return.

Same with BoA, haven't filed for 2020 but used direct deposit for 2019.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
Same for my tiny CU.

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Thom12255 posted:

Same for my tiny CU.

Same and same.

UP AND ADAM
Jan 24, 2007
I got less than I expected, but maybe that will be coming along later.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







I'm still not even listed on the IRS.gov website :cool:

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

FizFashizzle posted:

I'm still not even listed on the IRS.gov website :cool:

I assume someone at the IRS is loading diskettes into an old Amiga one by one to upload the names.

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.
Slightly more local news, but University of Minnesota's health clinic is ending using race as a factor to determine kidney health. Here's a snippet of the article.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/m-health-fairview-end-common-162700598.html

quote:

M Health Fairview will no longer use race as an automatic adjustment in determining kidney health, following recommendations from a task force of its physicians convened last summer.

For decades, healthcare providers nationwide have automatically adjusted one measurement of kidney health – the estimated glomerular filtration rate (eGFR) – based on the race of the patient. Black patients had one set of guidelines, non-Black patients had another.

Based on the incorrect assumption that race is biological, the adjustment can make Black patients’ kidneys seem healthier than they may really be. This can lead to delays in both getting advanced care and being listed for a kidney transplant, if necessary. M Health Fairview will no longer use race as an automatic adjustment when determining eGFR.

"When we evaluated the effect of this practice on patient care, we found it at best, problematic," said M Health Fairview Hospitalist Kristina Krohn, MD. Krohn, who also serves as an assistant professor in the Department of Medicine at the University of Minnesota Medical School, chaired the task force. "As we find a better way, we need to stop doing what we know is causing harm."

Leading healthcare organizations across the country are beginning to reevaluate calculations like these, driven in part by the grassroots efforts of scientists, providers, medical students and the nationwide racial justice movement.

Does anyone familiar with the medical field know how common/widespread this still is? I didn't know anything about this and am honestly a little surprised it was occurring.

User Error
Aug 31, 2006
Mmmm dat stimmy money hits nice. Credit union, used direct deposit for 2019 and 2020 tax refunds.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Kalit posted:

Does anyone familiar with the medical field know how common/widespread this still is? I didn't know anything about this and am honestly a little surprised it was occurring.

I see the fine print on every panel.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

User Error posted:

Mmmm dat stimmy money hits nice. Credit union, used direct deposit for 2019 and 2020 tax refunds.

Same here.

Definitely used my 2019 taxes for the full amount too

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



J.A.B.C. posted:

Just started reading it, and wouldn't you know it, they got some oldies but goodies in here. John Birch Society nuts, Roy Cohn, Phyllis Schlafly, Reagan, a laundry list of the shittiest figures in American History.

And the simmering grudgefest over the New Deal and the US leaving the gold standard, apparently. I know this is a bit of a stretch here, but I have to wonder if the thought process of big business back then was "stick with the gold standard >>> prolong the Great Depression >>> hoover up assets at fire sale prices while watching the US fall headlong into Nazism >>> more money for us, gently caress you"?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



90s Solo Cup posted:

And the simmering grudgefest over the New Deal and the US leaving the gold standard, apparently. I know this is a bit of a stretch here, but I have to wonder if the thought process of big business back then was "stick with the gold standard >>> prolong the Great Depression >>> hoover up assets at fire sale prices while watching the US fall headlong into Nazism >>> more money for us, gently caress you"?
I think it’s more that the gold standard favored the rich

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

90s Solo Cup posted:

And the simmering grudgefest over the New Deal and the US leaving the gold standard, apparently. I know this is a bit of a stretch here, but I have to wonder if the thought process of big business back then was "stick with the gold standard >>> prolong the Great Depression >>> hoover up assets at fire sale prices while watching the US fall headlong into Nazism >>> more money for us, gently caress you"?

I mean, that sounds a lot like the Business Plot's endgame.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I'm still getting the "no information available (we are working on this)" message when I check on the status of my Biden Bucks. Is anyone else encountering this? I filed my taxes around March 3.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I'm still getting the "no information available (we are working on this)" message when I check on the status of my Biden Bucks. Is anyone else encountering this? I filed my taxes around March 3.

Has your return been marked 'accepted'? They may not be able to base it on your 2019 taxes since you filed already, but if your 2020 return isn't fully processed yet they may not be able to use that yet either. I filed back in February and got my stimulus cash based on my 2020 taxes today.

ElrondHubbard
Sep 14, 2007

Kalit posted:

Slightly more local news, but University of Minnesota's health clinic is ending using race as a factor to determine kidney health. Here's a snippet of the article.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/m-health-fairview-end-common-162700598.html


Does anyone familiar with the medical field know how common/widespread this still is? I didn't know anything about this and am honestly a little surprised it was occurring.

Ubiquitous when you’re talking about nephrology. It’s a gold standard measurement and, from what I’ve seen, concerns only started being taken seriously last year. I haven’t seen anything game-changing released yet from the task force their convened to look into it, but there will probably be a good bit of debate once they do.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

KitConstantine posted:

Has your return been marked 'accepted'? They may not be able to base it on your 2019 taxes since you filed already, but if your 2020 return isn't fully processed yet they may not be able to use that yet either. I filed back in February and got my stimulus cash based on my 2020 taxes today.

I think they have been. My refund is scheduled to be deposited today.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

him sucking was super well-known and nobody's ever really liked him. He was known for being responsible for the republicans controlling the state senate despite democrats having the majority by getting some democrats to caucus with the republicans (no it made no sense) which let him prevent progressive stuff from getting passed while blaming the republicans in the state senate for it. he only turned around and dissolved it in 2018 when AOC started pointing it our and he got scared.

His pandemic TV stuff wasn't even because of Trump in the background, like every loving governor did that press briefing stuff and all of them got approval bumps and cult-of-personalities springing up about it. Andy Beshear a Democrat in Kentucky who won by only 5,000 votes against the biggest rear end in a top hat alive 3 months prior had mugs getting sold of his catchphrases and cut-outs getting posted in gas stations to remind us to socially distance. The only different thing about cuomo's briefings was that he was in New York so the media paid more attention to him due to media provincialism. If he had been Governor of any other state except maybe california and done the exact same poo poo not a soul would have noticed.

The fact that everyone hates his guts is also why he's falling so hard so fast right now. People only stuck up for him because they were scared and now that he's down everyone's lining up for their turn to stab caesar.

That's a good point and I didn't think of that.

What is notable, is that it looks like his earlier obsession with COVID Press Conferences played out especially during it's Winter peak but as far as I can tell he's done at this point. No amount of cleverly crafted media events will get him out of this hole and it doesn't look like has has the decency to resign.

Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Mar 17, 2021

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

His pandemic TV stuff wasn't even because of Trump in the background, like every loving governor did that press briefing stuff and all of them got approval bumps and cult-of-personalities springing up about it. Andy Beshear a Democrat in Kentucky who won by only 5,000 votes against the biggest rear end in a top hat alive 3 months prior had mugs getting sold of his catchphrases and cut-outs getting posted in gas stations to remind us to socially distance. The only different thing about cuomo's briefings was that he was in New York so the media paid more attention to him due to media provincialism. If he had been Governor of any other state except maybe california and done the exact same poo poo not a soul would have noticed.

That the media is based in new york was part of it, but the other part was that in March/April New York was in a much worse state than a lot of other places so the disaster would probably have been the national focus anyway.

Left unsaid is that in large part it was in a much worse state due to Cuomo himself not taking it seriously because he'd rather slap down DeBlasio's feeble efforts to take it seriously to show Cuomo is the boss and overturning measures to avoid getting New York into the disaster it was back then.

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

Kalit posted:

Slightly more local news, but University of Minnesota's health clinic is ending using race as a factor to determine kidney health. Here's a snippet of the article.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/m-health-fairview-end-common-162700598.html


Does anyone familiar with the medical field know how common/widespread this still is? I didn't know anything about this and am honestly a little surprised it was occurring.

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain

The American medical field is full of misinformation regarding the treatment of black people and its largely rooted in the slave origin of the US.

One half of white medical students have some really terrible understandings of the physiology of black people. Specifically that:

ABOVE LINK posted:

“Black people’s nerve endings are less sensitive than white people’s.” “Black people’s skin is thicker than white people’s.” “Black people’s blood coagulates more quickly than white people’s.”
These disturbing beliefs are not long-forgotten 19th-century relics. They are notions harbored by far too many medical students and residents as recently as 2016. In fact, half of trainees surveyed held one or more such false beliefs

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/racism-discrimination-health-care-providers-patients-2017011611015

Knowing this I would suspect that there are other underlying racial bias within the medical field we haven't even touched on, including your information.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Killin_Like_Bronson posted:

Knowing this I would suspect that there are other underlying racial bias within the medical field we haven't even touched on, including your information.

I strongly suspect there's a ton of random "this is the test for X" where the test was slapped together by someone in the 1960s on a subject that doesn't get a lot of attention and so nobody has really gone back and asked "does this make any sense and does it have any valid scientific basis? can we do better?" and well if it was the 1960s, boy you might have some bad stuff in there. There was also the NFL settlement where people have sued because the criteria for dementia also have a race component - in essence I think the criteria assume black people have lower mental functioning at baseline - so that black players are being denied with symptoms that would get a white player compensation under the settlement.

A lot of organizations/industries have this sort of long-forgotten cruft in there and people on the outside assume that it's all got a much stronger basis than it does, when in actuality the basis is "well it works well enough and nobody has wanted to put in the effort to change it/improve it"

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Kalit posted:

Slightly more local news, but University of Minnesota's health clinic is ending using race as a factor to determine kidney health. Here's a snippet of the article.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/m-health-fairview-end-common-162700598.html

Does anyone familiar with the medical field know how common/widespread this still is? I didn't know anything about this and am honestly a little surprised it was occurring.

This is based off the paper here.

https://www.mnmed.org/getattachment...aspx?lang=en-US

It's a quick read.

eGFR is a very quick and dirty way to estimate kidney health that effects how you dose certain medications and imaging.

you can do it here.

https://www.kidney.org/professionals/KDOQI/gfr_calculator

It's also a way to figure out if you're at risk for chronic kidney disease, and that'll get you a trip to a nephrologist who will do much fancier tests to figure that out.

Part of the eGFR is creatinine which is a waste product created by muscle work. The higher the creatinine level in the blood, the worse the kidneys are functioning....theoretically. However, a big buff dude is going to have a naturally higher creatine level than a frail little grandma etc, it's not perfect, there are better tests.

the study posted:

The race adjustment exists because, in the original two studies, researchers noted that self-identified African Americans had higher true GFRs for the same creatinine level when using more expensive and time-consuming measurements such as nuclear medicine measurements.

Researchers developed the race adjustments to mimic this outcome. These studies included White and Black patients, with few patients from other racial groups. Patients self-identified their race, and biracial was not an option. The task force was unable to find a biologic explanation forthis difference.

Studies in other countries have not consistently demonstrated racial differences, including studies in Asia (Japan),
South America (Brazil), United Kingdom and Africa (South Africa). Furthermore, the task force was unable to determine how a biracial individual should be treated. By convention, in the United States all biracial individuals receive the “if Black” number, while in the United Kingdom, anyone who is biracial receives the “nonBlack” eGFR.

so essentially it's trying to mimic a result they see in more complicated tests. However...

quote:

In looking at the participants in the original MDRD study in 1999, the African American participants were more likely
to make less than $25,000 annually; be unmarried; and/or have hypertension, hypertensive nephrosclerosis or diabetic nephropathy. In other words, race itself may not drive the difference in eGFR; rather, race may function as a marker for ongoing structural, institutional and interpersonal racism in our country

Now african americans are prone to higher blood pressure for whatever reason, but this study is saying that that it's not that they're black inherently, it's that black people are going to be more susceptible to kidney damage through things that we know cause kidney damage like diabetes, htn, kidney disease, etc.

This is not definitive. This paper is saying that the nephrologists at this institution are comfortable leaving out race as part of GFR. And the difference is basically creatinine (one of the components of eGFR) is adjusted to .21 or .16 percent then thrown into the calculator. They're doing away with that.

A couple of interesting considerations from the article.

quote:

Continuing to adjust eGFR upwards for Black patients may under-diagnose chronic kidney disease (CKD), lead to lower referrals to specialists or not meeting kidney transplant waitlisting threshold, play a role in why Black Americans dialyze more often initially through central lines rather than fistulas and continue the use of medications such as contrast dyes

The obvious. Continuing to do this COULD misdiagnose CKD.

quote:

On the other hand, removing the race modifier could potentially over-diagnose renal failure in this population. Almost 1million Black Americans may be newly diagnosed with CKD by removing racial adjustment. Additionally, Black Americans
may lose the benefit of medications such as metformin or SGLT2 agents, as these medications should be discontinued as eGFR drops.

Metformin is front line treatment for Diabetes, and SGLT2i are BIG diabetes drugs that you've seen commercials for all the time, like Invoka or Jardiance.

My initial reaction to this is that if there's a chance an adjustment is keeping someone from getting the care they need, they should get rid of the adjustment. 1 million extra people diagnosed with chronic kidney disease is...substantial.

also lmao racist old doctors

quote:

By convention, in the United States all biracial individuals receive the “if Black” number, while in the United Kingdom, anyone who is biracial receives the “nonBlack” eGFR.

FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Mar 17, 2021

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

evilweasel posted:

I strongly suspect there's a ton of random "this is the test for X" where the test was slapped together by someone in the 1960s on a subject that doesn't get a lot of attention and so nobody has really gone back and asked "does this make any sense and does it have any valid scientific basis? can we do better?" and well if it was the 1960s, boy you might have some bad stuff in there. There was also the NFL settlement where people have sued because the criteria for dementia also have a race component - in essence I think the criteria assume black people have lower mental functioning at baseline - so that black players are being denied with symptoms that would get a white player compensation under the settlement.

A lot of organizations/industries have this sort of long-forgotten cruft in there and people on the outside assume that it's all got a much stronger basis than it does, when in actuality the basis is "well it works well enough and nobody has wanted to put in the effort to change it/improve it"

Yes its horrifying to think about how deep some of these lie and obvious why nobody wants to turn those stones over.

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Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.
Some good news for today, VAWA is getting re-authorized in the house :toot: It had been lapsed since McConnell refused to bring it to a vote 2 years ago: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/17/politics/house-vote-reauthorize-violence-against-women-act/index.html

quote:

The new bill builds upon previous versions of the VAWA by authorizing funding for grants and other forms of support in an effort to prevent and combat sexual assault, domestic violence, dating violence and stalking and deliver assistance to victims.

According to a fact sheet from the House Judiciary Committee, the bill would improve and expand aid and services for victims and survivors. The sweeping legislation includes provisions to make safe housing more accessible and bolster economic security by ensuring that state unemployment benefits cannot be denied to individuals who leave jobs due to sexual harassment or assault, domestic or dating violence or stalking.

quote:

Now the House Democratic majority is poised to again pass a reauthorization. This time around Democrats control the Senate, but the effort will still face an uncertain future in the chamber. With a 50-50 partisan split, it is not clear there would be enough Republican support to overcome a filibuster.

When asked if he would support the reauthorization bill, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday that GOP Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa "has been our leader on that issue."

Ernst later told reporters, "We are working on a bill again, taking what we worked on in the last Congress and we will likely reintroduce," adding that "it will be different from the House bill."

The Iowa Republican said she hopes it will be possible to "work through those differences in the two bills, find the areas of agreement and move forward with a modernized bill."

"We're willing to work with Democrats on this and hopefully by combining forces we can come up with the 60 votes needed," Ernst said.

I'm wondering if Republicans will end up filibustering it. If so, this could be a bill that would get Manchin/Sinema to support eliminating it...

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