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Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

evilweasel posted:

the audacity of hope

The Incapacity of Hope

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Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

The Dark Project posted:

Son: Are you going to cast "Smite" on them?
Dad: Soon, just give it a moment
Son: But they're all over the place, running wild, don't you want to send them a message?
Dad: I do, but look now how they're all gathered up close to one another? You get more if you wait for them to all bunch up like that.
Holy Ghost (over intercom): Dead I am the one

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

"The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a conservative non-profit association founded in 1944. The group was reported to have about 5,000 members in 2014. The association has promoted a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism. It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of universal health insurance."

Quoth Wikipedia

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Herstory Begins Now posted:

It's like a picasso of stupid

Jackson Pollock

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Eminai posted:

Bernie is a liberal, not a leftist.

Source your quotes

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there


Aftermath shot - no gore

MOD EDIT: dead body in the spoiler

Somebody fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Oct 11, 2020

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there


Been too long

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

eke out posted:

yet another post making the case for the need for severe ramps in dnd, thank you



Forget it Eke, it’s ChinatownYMB.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Doctor Butts posted:

I might do what I did in 2016. Start ignoring the updates at some point and get drunk listening to yacht rock.



Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Oct 19, 2020

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
I remembered the elderly protester in Buffalo who was shoved by police, so I looked him up and he's gotten mostly better, can walk, etc.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/08/31/buffalo-man-martin-gugino-talks-recovery-after-police-shoved-him/3445610001/

Some decently good news for today.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
Are the people who come and post such moronic hot takes unaware that having a member of your administration from the other party is quite common?

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Obama appointed James Comey as head of the FBI and well...look where that got us.

He also nominated Ray LaHood for Secretary of Transport for his first term. Guy was a GOP Congressman for like 7 terms. Apparently he liked trains.

In short, saying you will consider qualified nominees from the other party is totally normal, and having conniptions about it is ignorant of history. But given the increasing influx of unstable minds to this thread to screech about their mental states, I suppose it's inevitable.

Can we call them 'banshees' or something?

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Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

If I need to write a full essay on this then just prob me now because I don’t have that many thoughts but

1. Daniel Craig - Best all around actor to take the role, best singular Movie with Casino Royale, most grounded/“realistic” Bond
2. Pierce Brosnan - Best portrayal of Bond as the swavv, sexy secret agent. Best accent. Second best Bond movie in Goldeneye and only one outright poo poo movie in Die Another Day
3. Timothy Dalton - mediocre two movies but single handily held them up with strong performance.
4. George Lazenby - Whatever
5. Sean Connery - fine, too much a product of his time that I feel hasn’t aged particularly well. Phoning it in with his later movies, took a Bootleg role with the unofficial Bond film Never Say Never Again
6. Roger Moore - too old for the role, corniest and just overall dumbest movie plots

I never said he was bad.

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You forgot David Niven, for starters.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
Isn’t that Coachways thing from a while back?

Yeah, Oct 2019. Stop quoting it, it’s unrelated.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-coachways-charter-bus-company-did-not-sabotage-the-march-for-trump

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
Satan: hail, possible wet snow

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Gulping Again posted:

I literally only know 'gusano' to refer to 'hard-right latino who's family were literal slaveholders or monopolists who were forced into exile by socialism and have held a grudge ever since regardless of their current personal material conditions' and more generally to 'anyone who complains about leftism because their family were slaveholders, monopolists, or war criminals'

So not a term applicable to RGV inhabitants, more a Miami usage?

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
Wait, Cecilia Munoz is this person?

"Before working for the White House, she was Senior Vice President for the Office of Research, Advocacy and Legislation at the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), the largest Latino advocacy organization in the United States.  At NCLR, she supervised all legislative and advocacy activities conducted by NCLR policy staff. She was also the Chair of the Board of the Center for Community Change and served on the U.S. Programs Board of the Open Society Institute and on the boards of directors of the Atlantic Philanthropies and the National Immigration Forum. In 2000, she was named a MacArthur Fellow for her work on civil rights and immigration."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilia_Mu%C3%B1oz

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/axcomrade/status/1326764151193165824

her own words seem to indicate a pretty strong belief in "deporting hundreds of thousands of people is Cool and Good"

No, you just made that up in your head.

"CECILIA MUNOZ: The reform didn't happen because it requires action on the part of the Congress of the united States, which did not take it up. But he's going to keep at it until we find the partners we need in the Congress to get this job done."

Some posters sure seem allergic to checking sources around here.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Gerund posted:

Harrison, you say? I don't think Harrison did any better than flaming out before Iowa either.

Only lasted 31 days to boot.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

sexpig by night posted:

the overwhelming pro-democratic party media apparatus not reporting on the multiple very public scandals she had means they actually didn't exist.

I mean it's not like you actually check any sources you post anyhow beyond headlines, so how would you know what the media is saying?

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

No you made up how she thought it was "cool and good" , dude. Learn to read.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Majorian posted:

It's actually very much indicative of how immigration activists view Muñoz.

That article in no way indicates that Munoz thinks deportation is “cool and good”, though. Further the article also presents different viewpoints that on their face contradict a uniform view of her work.

Ed: Oh this is USPOL, sorry, thought it was Polliwonks and expected too much.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

A big flaming stink posted:

she is on video giving a full-throated defense of her office using the funding provided to it in order to deport as many people as possible. are you saying that she did not think it was good and proper for her office to do such a thing (a more decorous way of saying cool and good, if you will)?

I gave you another quote from the same program which shows you’re wrong. Do your own homework next time. Stop moving goalposts, too - you said “cool and good”.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Famethrowa posted:

The democrat party does not represent my views at all.

You're not Australian?

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Zedhe Khoja posted:




The democrat party has real line up of winners in the transition team. Like Kelly MAGAsmen. Can't wait for another liberal genocide like Iraq and Yemen for all the smartest boys and girls on tv to explain is Good Actually.

Pretty sure there's nobody on that list you're going to like. I mean as National Security slates go I suspect overall they're much less bloody handed child murderer types than the GOP would pick but really it's going to be a question of degree.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Pick posted:

This is flat out constitutionally untrue. Trump stops being the president automatically when his term ends. Pence's ends the same way. If they haven't seated Biden, Pelosi becomes president.

And resigns her seat!

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

redbrouw posted:

Laughs in Canadian

<3 Ed

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Acebuckeye13 posted:

how are you planning on [...] not splintering into multiple different factions that hate each other

They're not.

quote:

I don't think y'all have thought this through

Splintering is a *feature* of the terminally doctrinaire left, not a bug. It comes from being unable to accept that someone who disagrees with you does so in good faith, and must therefore be violently opposed.

I suppose entryism has some hope, witness the DSA working from within.

Bolton is a ghoul, and credit to Trump I think he had him pegged pretty well even when he was working for him.

Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Nov 15, 2020

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Epic High Five posted:


I'm talking about the left standing together for a drat change, and the splintering being with wrecker liberals with evil in their hearts

Oh, I'm with you, but it's clear quite a slice of the purists will call you a centrist sellout.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Marx Was A Lib posted:

yeah i really have a hard time parsing "actually he's a deeply religious man" as a good thing

Well, okay, but you're just revealing your own intolerance. Many on the left hold deep religious faith.

Off the top of my head, thinking of leftist Catholics, is Dorothy Day simply too religious for you to accept?

Kropotkin:

quote:

Timid, at the outset, Socialism spoke at first in the name of Christian sentiment and morality: men profoundly imbued with the moral principles of Christianity – principles which it possesses in common with all other religions – came forward and said – “A Christian has no right to exploit his brethren!” 

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

punishedkissinger posted:

it's going to end up only applying to small business owners who opened a medical insurance form in a low income neighborhood. still better than nothing though.

Really posts like this should be treated as doom posting. Same posters, same endless moaning.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Bioshuffle posted:

Surely, I can't be the only one in this thread who is doing Thanksgiving?


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Thanksgiving was last month!

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

FizFashizzle posted:

Dying from a virus you got from this guy





Jebus some superior genes from Giuliani and Trump going on

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Abner Assington posted:

...

Where in the absolute gently caress are you getting ANY of that from that photo?

From his Abner Assington

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Shageletic posted:

Its kinda getting pretty ridiculous to discount 1 trillion dollars as nothing. But regardless, that's not my point. My point is that was the starting point for Republicans in the Senate. 1.8 trillion offered by Mnuchin. Theres room here for real good, that Pelosi didnt agree to while alot of ppl will be suffering this winter.

So basically, in your world, nobody is responsible for anything here except Nancy Pelosi. That she should have just instantly caved to Mnuchin. And that if she had, McConnell would have been instantly forced to pass whatever the White House put forward.

You don't give a hoot about what other toxic poo poo was in the Mnuchin proposal though.

And you seem taken aback that most everyone else posting here think your analysis is basically ignoring reality? McConnell has had zero issues ignoring the White House in the past.

I mean it's basically "gently caress you, want mine.". gently caress liability for businesses, gently caress giving the states money, let Mnuchin dole it out to GOP cronies.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

DrNutt posted:

Did you read the words in the tweet? Or notice that Pick was pointing out the conspicuously spartan look of their meeting room? I can't speak for sexpig there but I'm just making inferences based on my experience with democratic presidents and what they have been able to accomplish in my lifetime.

So basically fiscal doomposting based on a picture of three people sitting around a big conference table.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Zwabu posted:

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -

Not sure how people don't seem to be mentioning the fairly obvious and somewhat likely scenario that he gets pardoned by President Trump on his way out.

Not sure how people don't seem to be mentioning the fairly obvious and somewhat likely scenario that he gets charged with state crimes.

Ed: apparently we need to include an effort post in the next thread on the pardon power.

vvvvvvvvvv

Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Nov 21, 2020

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

the_steve posted:

Plus, he's gotta be convicted before he can be pardoned, right?

Nixon wasn't convicted of anything.

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Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
The question of evil raises its hornéd head in the thread.

One aspect to consider is that people are very good at justifying moral and ethical decisions they make. Few people get up in the morning saying, “today, I shall do evil!”

I agree that every U.S. president has done acts that everyone here thinks are abhorrent, in carrying out the office. But they could probably justify why quite a few of them seemed necessary. The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were attacks on civilian targets, to me now, clearly crimes against humanity. But it ended the war in days.

I don’t know how to break the cycle. Presidents grow into being Presidents. Power corrupts. Maybe it’s built in to the office - what crimes would Bernie have committed, because he would have.

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