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I've got your discord right here, punk 
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Oct 9, 2020 18:29
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this is my first time playing, how do i go in the vents like red did
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Oct 9, 2020 19:02
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I don't like what you seem to be insinuating here. ##vote PMush
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Oct 9, 2020 23:42
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If it's brown, lie down. If it's black, fight back. If it's white... good night!
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Oct 10, 2020 22:54
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Am I talking about crewmates, bears, or people? 
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Oct 10, 2020 22:54
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Can we make fake day actions legal for the rest of D1?
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Oct 12, 2020 20:34
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I dunno if Squiggly's scum, but he is pretty drat annoying. ##vote Squiggly
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Oct 13, 2020 18:21
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Uh... shouldn't we wait until the night actions are resolved? Retro?
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Oct 14, 2020 01:11
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I'm kind of surprised Amoeba got NK'ed, his argument with Squiggly on the last page was the start of the momentum against him and I was mentally preparing a case on him. Hmm. The other thing arousing my suspicions is the Biaga/Obama tandem. They voted within 2 minutes of each other and made a bunch of posts in quick succession painting a target on his back. Those were votes 3 and 4, others including me piled on the bandwagon, and that was that. Biaga in particular was coming on a little strong there.
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Oct 14, 2020 19:33
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Dick Bastardly posted:Admittedly voting someone in spite of an alignment call is sketchy imo. ##vote Ceyton Biaga also voted Squiggly purely because he was annoying. PMush rushed the hammer because D1 was dragging on too long. How is my vote any more suspicious than theirs?
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Oct 14, 2020 19:36
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Hey, I'm just a rookie who had no idea people would react so badly to a glib post. But if you really think I'm the best option for introducing to the airlock, go ahead, because I'm not going to be able to convince you otherwise.
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Oct 14, 2020 19:59
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Dick Bastardly posted:I disagree with Sqiggly's sus on amoeba for the reason of amoeba "not wanting to tie a vote down" in jest or otherwise, and find it odd that Squiggly didn't put down a serious vote on amoeba (assuming Sqiggly is serious about the sus as alluded to by the statement about killing joke phase). I think ##vote Squiggly is valid as much as a light case could argue on such a slow D1. Italics mine. You were vote #5 on Squiggs, just before me. Dick Bastardly posted:SNG's is clearly a joke vote. Obama me toos a vote but claims to believe that Squiggs is actually scum which is slightly better than Ceyton's vote. ##vote Dick
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Oct 14, 2020 22:56
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JOHN CENA posted:what is this Thanks for pointing this out btw
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Oct 14, 2020 22:56
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Dick Bastardly posted:The difference is I thought squiggly could be scum for making contradictory statements (their reason for sus on amoeba being incongruent with their own play, specifically not voting someone they just sussed in a serious way.) I don't think what you said and what I said are all that different. They're both effectively "I publicly acknowledge it's a weak case, but I'm hopping on this bandwagon anyway LOL". Besides you also doing the thing you're accusing me of, it's specious reasoning anyway. It's impossible to have a firm logical case against anybody on D1. Whether it's said out loud or not, every D1 vote carries an assumption of "yeah it's flimsy justification, and balance of probabilities is that I'm railroading an innocent townie, buuuuut..." The difference between you and me is that you came blazing out of the gate after me on D2, using this as your primary argument.
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Oct 15, 2020 13:41
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Sandwolf posted:Ceyton and Obama appear to be on the same team though. ObamaAkbar. posted:Or you and DB are on the same team... seriously what amoeba said was barely anything. I think you're both right 
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Oct 15, 2020 18:28
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Sandwolf posted:Ceyton why don't you explain why you think I'm scum. Bonus points if you don't use DB's name once. Separating you from DB is going to be hard to do. You two seem to be joined at the hip. You've been attacking me all day, yet you've never made your own case against me - you piggybacked on DB's, just quoted his post without adding anything. You've attacked other posters for pointing out that I might be town: Sandwolf posted:I agree with Zyzzx’s post about Biaga’s statement but I can’t help but feel like it’s trying to divert attention to Biaga specifically from Ceyton. Sandwolf posted:Really going out of your way not to say the name ‘Ceyton’ here Sandwolf posted:What the gently caress kind of scumteam have you been on where someone else on the team rushes into discord to alleviate the newbie scum’s concern that the one vote isn’t that bad? You've tried to shut down the discussion: Sandwolf posted:This is needlessly argumentative and I don’t know why. You've also made more than 1 post coming to DB's defence when others started questioning him. Sandwolf posted:this isn't even taking into account all the snipey, shadey comments they're throwing my way now That's rich, coming from you. You have by far the most posts ITT and a lot of them are snippy one-liners.
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Oct 15, 2020 19:17
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Sandwolf posted:that's a pretty good post Ceyton!!! 
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Oct 15, 2020 19:31
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Dick Bastardly posted:I am weary of possible scum warming up to me because I tend to be susceptible to that sometimes. I'm not counting out the possibility that Sandwolf could be courting my favor by generally agreeing (or seeming to) with my perspective of the game so far, but it's a null read for me because I can't tell in this case if Sandwolf is inherently scummy for it. So I do feel a little better about Ceyton after that however ##unvote And my case was based on you coming after me for D1 behavior that I could equally well accuse you of. Soooooo ##unvote for now
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Oct 16, 2020 11:54
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Earlier I mentioned that Sandwolf had lept to DB's defense on multiple occasions. Here are the posts:Sandwolf posted:But zzyzx tell me why DB is scum for that? Sandwolf posted:Mmm, yeah, but couldn’t also DB just be talking about a color Sandwolf posted:don't like the vote on dick or any of the votes on dick sooOooo Sandwolf posted:I have personally been on at least four scum teams recently where we made at LEAST one (1) NK decision based on who was saying bad things we didn’t like during the day. I don’t know why amoeba was killed but DB looking into amoebas suspicions is as townie as it gets. Sandwolf posted:seems desperate to paint DB in a negative light, but I don't think DB has done anything scummy, and it FEELS a lot like they thought DB would be an easy lunch after yesterday and they're trying to hammer home how DB is scummy here and wow obviously everyone should vote there That's in addition to piggybacking DB's case against me, and pushing it harder and with more aggressive tactics than DB ever did. It appears to be a very one-sided relationship though. DB hardly ever mentions Sandwolf in his posts. Why hitch your wagon so strongly to DB, Wolfie? You afraid of expressing any thoughts of your own? Maybe your plan was to sic the mob on me, then on D3 you could say "Hey don't blame me guys, DB persuaded me. LET'S GET HIM, FELLAS!"
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Oct 16, 2020 12:20
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I only ever had a case against Dick because he was (hypocritically) attacking me for my D1 vote. Since he unvoted me, I figured I'd return the détente.Hal Incandenza posted:It’s definitely some weird logic to unvote DB and then continue to push Sandwolf for supposedly defending his scum buddy DB Yesterday I thought Dick and Sandwolf were scum buddies... but after re-reading Dick's posts, his case against me was never very strong and he never pushed it very hard. Sandwolf did. The theory I'm working with now is that scum's plan for D2 was to get either me or Dick launched, and set up the other to be the patsy on D3. But Sandwolf botched it by coming on too strong.
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To be clear, I'm still entertaining theories that Dick is scum, but I think Sandwolf is much more likely scum.
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Oct 16, 2020 16:53
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Hal Incandenza posted:Fair, but I am not totally clear on the Sandwolf case. Is it just that he hopped onto DBs case against you and was defending DB? I feel like Sandwolf thus far has been poking around and seeing what is up in a fairly townie way He literally just emptyquoted Dick's case and started laying into me. He didn't give his own thoughts as to why he believed it was worth pursuing over the other D1 bandwagon voters, nor did he seem to notice or care about Dick's hypocrisy in going after me. IMO this is a responsibility-dodging tactic and is inherently scummy. He's also been casting suspicions on several different posters for defending me, or for questioning Dick. I don't think town benefits from chilling effects. As for the defending - it's a matter of degrees, and he's been doing it a lot. Why would a townie be so invested in taking up the mantle for another poster? If Sandwolf is town, he can't know whether Dick is town (unless he's another cop or they're masons, etc., but that's very unlikely). Why not just let Dick defend himself?
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Oct 16, 2020 20:48
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I'm open to the possibility of being wrong about Sandwolf, that's why I didn't vote him yet. No one else is supporting my case, so it must not be very good.Biaga posted:I think your actions have been a lot more suspect than him. How so?
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Oct 16, 2020 23:23
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sandnavyguy posted:Look, here is my input on the matter, and it hasn’t changed. Doesn't a launch on D1 usually favor town in the long run, though? And by extension, scum would want a no-launch? quote:Of the votes, the last, second to last, and third to last should be highly scrutinized if it was in fact a scum rush, as these are the best points tactically to enforce a hammer. Most attention on the second to last, as the last vote could very well be a swayed townie. Why can't N-1 (or -2 or -3) be swayed townies, as well? Especially when it's 7 to hammer, the bandwagon is in full effect by then. quote:The last vote was Pmush, and I don’t think it was scummy, just a mistake: I base this on the relative low engagement and the fact that if you didn’t look closely there were several votes in succession that could have hid the fact it was -1. You don't think DB immediately casing me on D2 makes him more suspicious than me?
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sandnavyguy posted:Oh no, it’s a possibility everyone lunching could have been a townie, I’m not arguing it has to be my way, it’s just I think if scum is playing well then it’s unlikely. Yeah, I guess you're right. D1 launch would favor scum if they could keep a lid on the amount of information coming out of it. Thanks~ I still disagree with your choice of me over DB though. He called me "empirically anti-town" and my vote "at least an order of magnitude worse" than his, when we did both did exactly the same drat thing. What "actions others took either against you or on your behalf to shift the conversation" are you referring to, specifically?
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Oct 17, 2020 00:43
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Oh yeah, that reminds me. We're back on, Dick. ##vote DB
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Oct 17, 2020 01:52
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Looks like it's gonna be NL though. Votes are 4-2-1-1, Dick needs 2 more. The only votes left are Cena and... DB. Only guy who I think might change his mind is Hal.
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Oct 17, 2020 01:54
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Eh... we'll probably take that disagreement to our graves.
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Oct 17, 2020 01:57
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I was the first to vote against you, remember? I did a détente out of politeness, and I really did dislike how Sandwolf was behaving, but now I think it's time for you to go.
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Oct 17, 2020 02:04
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Don't text and drive SNG 
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Oct 17, 2020 03:23
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BAH GAWD, CENA'S GOT HIM IN THE STF 
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Oct 17, 2020 12:28
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I'm pretty sure Zzyzx and Obama are town, they both correctly read DB's play, suspected him early on, and stuck to their guns. Quite a few people hedged their bets between me and DB, and I get that. But given DB's flip I think anyone who strongly suspected me while downplaying DB (lookin' at you Sandwolf and Biaga) is suspicious. I've got mixed feelings on PMush, need to think about it some more. Definitely not my #1 suspect right now though.
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I was thinking of Hal as a sort of "Biaga Lite", but you're making some good points zzyz I'm neutral on Cena, he was definitely going to lengths to not commit to DB, but he was also casting suspicions on DB's push while it still had momentum. He seems to feel much stronger about PMush, and I'm not sure what to make of that yet.
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Oct 18, 2020 20:27
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Today's a little tougher now that no one is pushing an obvious bullshit case against me. My Sandwolf case got no serious takers on D2, and even after DB flipped it's only getting lukewarm support from a couple of people on D3... I'd think stanning scum that hard would be a bit suspicious, but none of the vets seem to think so. Think I'll drop this one. I'm pretty confused by the Cena/PMush situation. I'm getting a mix of town and scum pings off both of them, and on balance I don't have any strong feelings. That D1 hammer is bothering me a bit though. The decision that it was an innocent mistake was so quick and unanimous that I think it was anticipatable. Does anyone else think so, or am I just being  here?Gonna put Hal and Biaga under a magnifying glass.
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Oct 19, 2020 21:44
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JOHN CENA posted:eh reads: It is an open polyamorous relationship
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Oct 19, 2020 21:45
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ObamaAkbar. posted:vote ##PMush Try formatting it properly next time 
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Oct 20, 2020 01:29
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Ceyton posted:Gonna put Hal and Biaga under a magnifying glass. As town, I think they're both doing a pretty bad job by not posting much at all, and posting even less in the way of useful content. Biaga at least had an argument with Obama over whose D1 vote was scummier, and made a few posts justifying why he suspected me. He did change his vote to DB in the end though, and something I noticed is that his vote confirmed that there would be a hammer (at that point SNG had voted/unvoted and announced he would hammer, Cena was an unknown factor, and who knows WTF Hal was doing). Without his vote there was still the possibility of an NL. Hal clearly favored voting me over DB, but then suddenly swerved and threw down a completely pointless and unjustified vote for SNG. I'm having trouble coming up with an angle on that, other than deliberately trying to be as unhelpful as possible.
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