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On behalf of the people of Lunagrad, I express our most heartfelt thanks: to the visionaries in Comintern, and more specifically to our hardworking comrades in both the Ministry for Outer Space Affairs and the Hawaiian Royal Space Agency. Just four months ago, this moon was barren, but through international cooperation and solidarity, humanity has made its first permanent home outside of home. It cannot be denied, however, that Lunar colonisation has diverged significantly from its initial plan. At this point in the timeline, we were meant to house tens of thousands of scientists and engineers; instead, thanks to the Hawaiian ships, we are over a million strong, from every background imaginable. It is understandable that Lunagrad should have been intended as a scientific institution, but this is simply not the world we find ourselves in. As our mission has changed, so must the structures that govern it, which is why the people of Lunagrad are working with the scientific council to transition to self-rule as the Lunar Socialist Republic.  I also lend my thanks to our New Afrikan colleagues for their support of Lunar industry. The ecosystems of Earth have been badly shaken by the Great Revolutionary War, and while of course the Trans-Newtonian revolution can alleviate some of the weight of industry, it remains self-evident that one cannot pollute an atmosphere that does not exist. That same lack of atmosphere, along with our significantly reduced gravity, makes Lunagrad a perfect industrial hub for expansion further into the solar system. Of course, the Lunar population is keenly aware of the instability and infrastructure damage still present on Earth - so many of us were refugees, and my own family was displaced from our native Amsterdam by the war - and we would by no means seek to enrich ourselves to the detriment of others. We believe investment in Lunar industry will allow us to contribute to the rebuilding efforts, and help to alleviate the struggles of our terrestrial comrades.
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Oct 23, 2020 17:08
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welfarestateofmind posted:The last thing we need is more "sovereign" nations which engage in heterodox and revisionist takes on Marxism-Leninism. We are a democratic body but as much as possible the Comintern should be the vanguard of the interplanetary proletariat. In fact, as a representative of the Duma, I recommend that all present and future space habitats be entirely governed as subservient to the Comintern, rather than letting future breakaway states crop up and damaging the larger socialist project. Counterpoint from our chief of recruitment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yMy7JuGpJM
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Oct 23, 2020 23:32
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The Lunar delegation insists on a full investigation into the meaning of "GLADIO". It may be nothing, a mere copycat killing, and if this is true then the people of Lunagrad will sleep easier in their bunks this designated nocturnal period. But to be clear, if this is more sinister - a coordinated terrorist effort may be underway, with its potential reach over a quarter of a million miles. We cannot afford to ignore this. With regard to scientific research, we suggest working towards asteroid mining; with regard to ships, we support our Georgian comrades in their push toward survey ships. It is the fervent hope of the Lunar delegation that some day soon, humans will embark on such voyages as to make the journey from Lunagrad to Santiago seem like stepping out of one's door in comparison.
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Oct 24, 2020 03:15
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LUNA: BADC GLADIO: BACD SURVEY SHIPS: B SURVEY PRIORITIES: BCA S-17: YES F-18: YES F-19: YES JR-20: YES A-21: YES S-22: YES Y-23: YES
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Oct 26, 2020 22:39
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I would note that I personally consider option C to be the most offensive of the Lunar plans. The status quo simply says "we are not yet ready to consider this" - I disagree, but it allows for future discussions. The "Autonomous Oblast" proposal, however, bars Luna from ever being a full member in good standing of this organisation, from ever having sovereignty over its own affairs. And not just Luna, but every extraterrestrial colony that will ever exist! If option C is permitted then all off-world peoples from now until the end of time shall be considered not fully deserving of the same rights to self-government and self-determination as the peoples of Earth, purely because they are not of Earth. I urge every member to rank option C last, as they surely would any caste system.
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Oct 27, 2020 15:59
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Until such a time as the nations of Earth are willing to take that step, they should not unilaterally impose it on the peoples of space. We must step forward together, or not at all.
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Oct 27, 2020 16:48
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Mister Bates posted:Voting will remain open for a few more hours. At the moment, the most contentious issue up for a vote right now, the Luna plan, is looking like B will carry the day barring some last-minute votes, with Option B receiving exactly 50% of first-preference votes so far, A and C in distant second and third place respectively, and no first-preference votes for option D. Do you mean JR-20 or A-21?
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Oct 27, 2020 21:34
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The people of the Lunar Socialist Republic thank you all for your affirmation of their rights to sovereignty and self-organisation. This may be one small step, but it is one giant leap for mankind.
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Oct 28, 2020 13:42
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The people of the Lunar Socialist Republic are loving HYPE
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Nov 7, 2020 15:09
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The Lunar Socialist Republic supports all efforts towards the expansion of infrastructure and industry on Luna. We're bottlenecked up here right now, we need more housing to get more people to get more industry to get the benefits of Lunar settlement to the rest of the world, and to get ourselves self-sustaining and no longer presenting any significant burden to terrestrial industrial resources. Luna is a rich reward, but it needs investment first.
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Nov 11, 2020 18:16
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It seems prudent to, at least in the present time, focus on expansion of current offworld settlements. [hastily pushes away the desk sign saying MOON PRESIDENT]
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Nov 24, 2020 18:41
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It would be extremely nice to be able to hold the United States Federal Government accountable for their crimes. There's something to be said for a public trial here.
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Feb 16, 2021 19:48
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Nuke Japan, and then offer them trade concessions.
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Feb 17, 2021 14:37
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CURRENT STATUS OF THE LUNAR SOCIALIST REPUBLIC The Republic follows the governance of a single legislative body: the Lunar Assembly. It is composed of representatives from every collective on the Lunar surface, which have the right to send representatives contingent on their recognition of the jurisdiction of the various Committees of the Assembly, which serve as the executive and judicial wings of government. Their jurisdiction does not typically reach to the level of each collective's internal affairs, but this has exceptions: for instance, the Committee for Infrastructure, for example, has unlimited scope for the preservation of life support, and the Committee for Human Rights may hear cases regarding abuse, neglect, or inhumane treatment of citizens by their collective. One major committee, as mandated by the Lunar Recognition Act of 1979, is the Lunar Planning Committee, or LunPlan, which has the remit of preparing Luna for full-scale independence. This body is composed of 51 Lunar representatives, appointed by the Assembly, and 49 Comintern-appointed representatives. The range of political thought is varied and boisterous, to say the least, but falls into two major wings: the Autonomists, who see their role as the restraint of the Lunar Assembly and the concentration of power in the collectives; and the Cooperatives, who push for further integration and standardisation of the Lunar economy. These wings are broadly interpreted by extralunar commentators as anarchist vs communist, and while this is not exactly wrong, the truth is as always more complicated. Autonomist propaganda tends to focus on fostering the individual specialties of each collective and advancing diverse cultures in the greatest social experiment in human history, while Cooperative rhetoric uses phrases like "greater than the sum of our parts" and, increasingly, the word "synergising". The wings are mostly civil with one another, with no major deadlock. The terrorist threat known as "GLADIO" has been a subject of concern for Lunar authorities since even before the recognition of the Republic - the Station Six Incident was an early psychological scar for Lunar society, and the spread of GLADIO activity has only further exacerbated worries among the Security Committee (which liaises with the Lunar Self-Defence Force). Even terrestrial GLADIO incidents will set off weeks of uneasy buzz among the populace, and paranoia is growing - not to the level of witch-hunts, or the McCarthyist purges of the late American republic, but enough to make the political atmosphere uncomfortable. All of this is to say that the Lunar Socialist Republic hears your call for enhanced surveillance. The Cooperative wing is, fittingly, cooperative - GLADIO activity needs to be thwarted not just for the security of Comintern, but for the sanity of the Lunar people as a whole. The Autonomists are less convinced; they believe that surveillance is easy to begin and hard to stop, and worry that this sanction of state power will come back to haunt them. They point out that the Republic is not even fully independent yet, and already Comintern is seeking to expand its powers. As such, the Lunar Assembly wants guarantees that any surveillance measures will be used only for the monitoring and destruction of GLADIO, and that if future international security threats arise, Comintern will seek consent separately to employ such measures against them. We have no wish to obstruct, merely to safeguard our liberties.
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Feb 22, 2021 21:05
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atelier morgan posted:imagine how big the other deposits were if that's the leftovers Alternatively: if that's what they left behind, imagine what made them leave.
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Mar 1, 2021 21:03
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MOON TRAIN MOON TRAIN MOON TRAIN MOON TRAIN COLLECTIVE AROUND THE EQUATOR MOON COMMUNISTS SUPPORT THIS IDEA
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Mar 7, 2021 15:08
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The Lunar Socialist Republic proposes the following: Orbital Survey Act - An Act which allows for expansion and regulation of the FESTER surveillance system, with the intent to enshrine both a capacity for security and surveillance, and its restraint in the name of liberty. Put simply: this bill would approve deployment of FESTER systems across all bodies in which Comintern has an interest - at present, Earth, Luna, and Mars, but we hear our colleagues talking about Venus, for example. However, actual usage of FESTER on any given Comintern territory would require either A) the express consent of whoever holds jurisdiction over that land, subject to whatever terms they find reasonable, or B) an extraordinary decree passed by a supermajority of the People's Congress, to the effect that this is an emergency situation or a time of war. (We imagine that the ongoing situation with the reactionary group calling itself "GLADIO" would be easily recognised as an emergency, but to be clear, with the likelihood of a GLADIO "shadow colony" on Lunar soil, the Lunar Assembly would approve a reasonable term of FESTER surveillance without such a decree.)
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Mar 31, 2021 17:55
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Please put the railgun in orbit, with a finger over the button 24/7, but B
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Jul 8, 2021 00:03
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This is a fantastic plan and nothing can possiblye go wrong
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Pre-Reveal Good afternoon, all. My name is Doctor Charles Young. I'm a delegate to the Lunar Assembly, representing the Artemis Psychology Collective. And I'm speaking to you, live from a quarter of a million miles away - to talk to you about my home, and what it took to build it. There's a very curious phenomenon that's been noted among cosmonauts since spaceflight began - noted in Gagarin himself. Now I don't mean some kind of- some physical phenomenon, I am not here to tell you that the Fantastic Four are real, strong, and right here out of frame. No, the phenomenon I'm talking about is altogether more subtle, and psychological in nature. The cosmonaut blasts off, rocketing- literally rocketing through the atmosphere, moving at speeds the human body never thought it could handle, like being on a rollercoaster that's on fire - and then it's over. The cosmonaut looks out of the window, and he sees something for the first time. He sees the Earth, below him, so far below him that he can see the planet curving below him, proving a multitude of Church Fathers wrong with a single glance. He sees entire cloud systems, whole continents, the transition from desert to grassland to mountain to the snowline, all laid out in front of him like out of a geography textbook. But he doesn't see any borders, anywhere. All he sees is a single planet, lush in the boundless diversity of its ecosystems, but unified by a common biosphere. And something happens to our cosmonaut in that moment. And he comes back down to Earth and says, why aren't people like that? Why do we put up borders, why do we see ourselves as separate homogeneous blocs? And lest you think this is just socialist propaganda - which, to be fair, it absolutely is! - this has been reported by cosmonauts from all kinds of nations - even from the Apollo 11 mission, the crew that first brought human life to the place a million people now call home. Think about that. A single glimpse of Earth from orbit can change a human mind, a human outlook, profoundly. Can make you want to work for the rest of your life to achieve on Earth what you saw from above. We're calling it the Overview Effect. Now consider that up here, we see that two weeks out of four. We look up into the sky, and often as not, you're up there. Big, bright, and beautiful. And not a border to be seen. You get a different perspective from up here. That perspective was something we worked towards from the start. From the first two hundred and fifty, we were of thirty-eight different nations, and without a single common language among us. And I mean that - we all knew at least one of French, English, or Russian, and we made it work. From what we knew at the time, we were going to be a small affair, not reaching even into the tens of thousands for years to come. We were determined that as the new pioneers arrived, they shouldn't find an outpost of a single country, of a single culture - not Russian, or Chinese, or French, or even Anglophone. As Armstrong said, nearly twenty-five years ago - this was one giant leap for mankind. For all mankind! Of course, we never could have predicted that within a few short days, the Queen Lili'uokalani would make all of this planning redundant - the sheer volume of the Passage to the Stars made it impossible for any one faction to gain dominance over the rest. There was too much chaos, too much work, too much sheer variety for that. And now there are over a million people up here, living their lives, keeping our motley republic in one piece. And a lot of people ask us - why? And there's a lot of different "why"s in there - Why did we choose to start up a settlement in the first place? Why did we go with the Hawaiians' proposal, throwing all our best-laid plans out of the airlock? Why did any of us, individually, sign up to live so far from the rest of humanity? - but I think they all basically condense to the same... why? Now, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 35th President of the United States of America, had something to say on this matter. He said that the United States would launch the Apollo Program "not because it is easy, but because it is hard". This is typical for a Kennedy speech, because it is horseshit. You don't do something like this "BECAUSE IT'S HARD". You do it because to do otherwise is inconceivable. Because there is something in the human spirit that looks upon our world without borders, something we've never known as a civilization, and says "we can do this". Because when I look up to the stars, I see an Earth around every one, and I feel the Overview Effect. We are here because once, twenty-five years ago, a man took a single step. And it is up to us to make the giant leap.
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this is the one thing we didn't want to happen
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e-dt posted:The blurb of Steven Levy's book on the Automation Revolution in planning and the culture it produced, Apparatchiki. CHUNG CHUNG
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Sep 13, 2021 15:14
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In the terms of cold, cruel, dispassionate reasoning, this is essentially the ideal outcome. They could have succeeded in everything, and reignited the war; they could have taken out Paris or Lunagrad, killing millions; and they could have failed utterly, killing nobody. Instead, they were forced to stake everything and won only a single scratch, which gave us a thousand martyrs to invoke every time people claim us to be the villains. They are spent, as an organisation, but we can throw their name around for the next twenty years. "Why, Mr UN Envoy, what do you mean you object to railguns on Lunar soil, we are acting in self-defence! Do you wish for another Interkosmos incident? How many more Comrade Evanses must give their lives before you deem it fitting we live in peace?" etc.
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Sep 17, 2021 10:15
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Z the IVth posted:I wonder if it's too late to have Thatcher's ashes mixed into the concrete of a sewage plant in Yorkshire? There's still time IRL, too.
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Sep 19, 2021 13:08
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Crazycryodude posted:Doing 5 tabs of acid at the Apollo 11 site to talk to the ghost of Buzz Aldrin. He will be, one day, so his ghost exists in potentia. We just need to draw it out.
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The Minervans must have known there was a primitive civilization in the system, right? If nothing else, our cities would have been visible at night. Brilliant luck for them that we were able to bootstrap our way into TNE space within just a few decades.
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