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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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4 Space should be shared amongst all of the peoples, playing political favourites is what lead to the downfall of the decadant capitalist nations in the first place.

We should work in converting say 500 Conventional Industry over to TN Factories, then a similar number to Mines to feed the newly converted factories. And say 100 to fuel refineries to cap off our initial construction order.

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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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PurpleXVI posted:

What's with the falling political stability?

Capitalist lies.

Or, you know, a bunch of disgruntled individuals unhappy about the local countryside glowing at night thanks to a few years of tactical nuclear weapon exchanges

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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After the disaster of a humanitarian relief effort to the North American north east, it is clear that while our future lies in the stars, our home is in need of care. We should establish a relief force, with a unit for providing aid and associated security forces.

Congratulate Hawai'i on their successful deployment of a spacefaring vessel.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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If a survey ship needs armour, something has gone terribly wrong

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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it pleases us that refugees featured heavily in the Luna colonisation efforts. We were going to propose as much. We should also consider dedicating some industry towards creating more offworld infrastructure, to ensure the Lunar colony continues to operate safely. The last thing we need is the ramshackle life support systems they have up there breaking down.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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As Neptune has an Orbital Radius of, on average, 4.5 B kms, the following design is submitted for a current generation longhaul freighter. Since it can cross the planetary system and have fuel to return. She is made for reliability and endurance. Like the workers of our grand endeavour!

code:
Berowra class Cargo Ship      19,991 tons       107 Crew       342.4 BP       TCS 400    TH 375    EM 0
937 km/s      Armour 1-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 48      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 0
MSP 90    Max Repair 20 MSP
Cargo 10,000    Cargo Shuttle Multiplier 2    
Binbasi    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 56 months    

Commercial Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP62.5 (6)    Power 375.0    Fuel Use 10.06%    Signature 62.5    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 150,000 Litres    Range 13.4 billion km (165 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes
2 cargo holds, 2 shuttle bays, 2 small engi spaces, 2 tiny engi storages. If it breaks down, the crew can repair it

Oh, and the engines

code:
Engine Power 62.5      Fuel Use Per Hour 6.29 Litres
Fuel Consumption per Engine Power Hour 0.101 Litres 
Size 25 HS  (1,250 tons)      HTK 5
Thermal Signature 62.5      Explosion Chance 5%      Max Explosion Size 15
Cost 15.625      Crew 12
Commercial Engine
Development Cost 156 RP

Materials Required
Gallicite  15.625

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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The new economy runs on TNEs. We have a strong base of industry now, so we propose that for now, industry conversion be suspended and the focus be put on TNE extraction projects.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Our Shipwrights have finally completed the hull layout for a colonial transport vessel

code:
Tongarra class Passenger Cruiser      19,878 tons       143 Crew       682.1 BP       TCS 398    TH 375    EM 0
943 km/s      Armour 1-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 46      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 0
MSP 421    Max Repair 100 MSP
Cryogenic Berths 40,000    Cargo Shuttle Multiplier 2    
Axbearer    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    

Commercial Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP62.5 (6)    Power 375.0    Fuel Use 10.06%    Signature 62.5    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 200,000 Litres    Range 18 billion km (220 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes
2 shuttles, 6 engines, 4 fuel tanks, 4 cryobays, and a maintenance storage bay with the tools to repair any damage to the cryomodules

It is not considered viable to make a passenger liner at this time. Even 1000 passengers requires a 10,000 ton spaceframe

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Little bit of that. It's gently caress all tonnage in the grand scheme of things either way. It wasn't a case of "I really want more MSP for RP but that's denying me more fuel/engines/cryopods" - it's literally 50 tons on a 20,000 ton spacewhale.

If Gladio wants to sabotage our colony ships, they're gonna have to work for it

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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The Extraplanetary Discovery Focus Act
It is proposed that we commence appropriate research and equipping of a team to explore the alien ruins on Mars as a matter of priority. We have known for some time about the existence of alien life. That they had an in system facility is troubling in the extreme. We should immediately start investigating its secrets to ensure we are better prepared for whatever comes.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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sebmojo posted:

a big red star on a black background, with multiple white stars in a geometric pattern around it



So this basically. Cept probably without the faint white borders etc but eh, paint x lazy

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Due to the developing Martian situation, the shiprwights present the following ship. Previously considered unviable, the current situation has shifted things somewhat.

code:
Mullumbimby class Luxury Liner      12,247 tons       279 Crew       467.8 BP       TCS 245    TH 250    EM 0
1020 km/s      Armour 1-47       Shields 0-0       HTK 36      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 0
MSP 423    Max Repair 100 MSP
Passengers 500    Cargo Shuttle Multiplier 2    
Axbearer    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    

Commercial Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP62.5 (4)    Power 250.0    Fuel Use 10.06%    Signature 62.5    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 14.6 billion km (165 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes

2 fuel tanks, 4 engines, 2 Lux passenger boxes, 2 shuttle bays. Sadly we have not yet figured out a method for more economical space passenger transport - besides cryo modules. A 1000 passenger model could potentially be made with a top speed of 800 m/s, but necessitates the full capacity of our slipways, coming in just under 20,000 T.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Need I remind delegates that we've ALSO had some pandemics since they left. A quarantine is for everyone's safety.

That said, locking them in a base on a distant world seems unneessarily cruel. Thus we propose the Bring them Home act.
Whereby we locate a suitable island for quarantining the populace of martian abductees ON EARTH, and prepare a vaccination schedule and debriefing facilities to bring them up to speed and prepare for their reintegration into society.
And in the meantime we will attempt a landing and food delivery with one of the observation craft. While we'd love to take the full time for a 5 year plan to get them off, it sounds like they don't have those kind of reserves. And it would be excellent publicity for us to be able to bring the rescuees back to Earth, rather than subjecting them to study in another alien lab. All our fancy TN tech would look alien to us 10 years ago, so to someone from the First World War, well. They've just spent a year in an alien laboratory. Lets not subject them to the same experience again.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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CYCLOPS is a military crew. You think they've only been pilfering warships though? I'd bet a week's rations there's civilians there. And they've been trapped on an alien world for a year. You think it's going to be good for them to be moved into another offworld prison where a little voice in their heads will tell them "the Comintern could wipe us out in an instant"
I mean, it's just as true on an island somewhere, but it's about how it looks, how it feels. They'll be much happier if they're back on home. Even if it's an island, at least it's an EARTH Island.

Oh. I almost forgot. Since basically every proposal is to do a food drop anyhow, can we get them a radio kit down there. While morse code enthusiasts are undoubtedly thrilled, having a human voice on the other end of the line will no doubt be of great comfort. Not to mention a drat sight quicker.

Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Dec 25, 2020

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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The Awake: A
The Asleep: D - with the option to dovetail into an emergency B if things go ploin shaped
The Site: A

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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The yards are expanding, aren't they? Why not just make a refit of the existing vessels with longer legs/more engines to get out that far

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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A counterproposal.

They are granted one of our first generation merchantmen. They, in addition to a sum of TN materials, and the US nuclear weapons, hand over all information and known operatives of GLADIO or other anti-socialist cells operating in their territory, and turn over any such individuals they locate in the future to our intelligence services. All currently subjugated territories of Japan are granted independence, and all extraterrestrial Japanese settlements are granted the same independence COMINTERN outposts are.
Finally, the Emperor formally abdicates and plays no further part in Japanese public or political life.

Edit: feel free to crib bits of this into other proposals as all y'all see fit.

Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Feb 17, 2021

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Asterite34 posted:

It doesn't require one, but it would be good for a number of reasons

1) They've made clear they want into space, and if we can't stop them we can at least keep a close eye on them. I'd like to avoid the scenario where we end up playing whack-a-mole with a million hostile capitalist enclaves scattered throughout the stars because we didn't get a grip on the situation earlier

2) They have tactical nukes lying around that we'd like off the table. They show no indication of planning to use them, or even particularly wanting them, but their mere existence is a tacit threat

3) We can benefit from their resources to get some otherwise prohibitively costly projects done that people have been agitating for for a while now, namely Venus colonization. Maybe a joint research plan for a new high-capacity tractor beam tugboat, too

4) As a major player among the remaining capitalist powers, them being buddy-buddy with us helps our dealings with everyone else

5) they've indicated they're quite happy to burn the world down with themselves.

Treating with them leads to 6) Why fight and die for GLADIO when you can go to Japan and just, you know, get your capitalist on.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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NewMars posted:

Seconded on the condition that they don't have to be in the tour to get released/repatriated.

While I'm here, might as well round out the Bureau proposals with:

11. The Bureau of Public Health Act: This will create an international organization devoted to increasing the medical welfare of the entire globe. Divisions will include vaccination programs, warzone medical teams and the creation of international healthcare standards as well as the means to uplift medical sectors in comintern countries to meet them.

Amendment proposed: This should include all human colonies, outposts and other non-earth based settlements.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Please be sending the good Doctor a fruit basket or something with the next supply run.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Why something brand new.? The Comintern must have submarines still. Creep a submarine in slow - even a stealthy diesel boat is enough. We've got time. Then drop a salvo of torpedoes on her, and add her to the gravesite.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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A

It's interesting. But it's not "Possibly get nuked" interesting.

Then don't even announce it. Just update the pamphlets on the Ranger site to include the wreck of the HMS Revenge.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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The Lone Badger posted:

I guess the competitor to the boatstuck plan is the boatmurdered plan where we murder everyone on the boat by blowing it up with torpedoes?

It was, yes. We should probably have our geosurveyors look into other shipwrecks for hidden submarines, now that we're aware of the trick.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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DelilahFlowers posted:

From my reading... Every one.

To be less jokey, it was the War of the Worlds thread

Goons. Goons never change.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Not ENTIRELY sure we should have manuevered into below minimum range, that could still get awkward if we have to fire torpedoes without the benefit of wire guidance. Which, if Revenge goes wild is ENTIRELY possible, if they make the count of submarines right and put an eel everyone's way, no captain can be expected to do anything but try to pull sick torpedo beats for the ~40 knots of runtime modern torpedoes have.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Assuming the Japanese or GLADIO haven't equipped them with a Trans-Newtonian launch system...

Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Jul 16, 2021

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Incompetents wiping all the data vs us getting a leg up on Xeno weponary, drives etc.

Like, I appreciate his fervor but at the same time, the losses are likely to be more than two years worth of work

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Volmarias posted:

We've gotten trains, which as far as I understand it is the Goon Communism End-Game, so I'm not sure why you're so insistent about this.

SPACE Trains no less

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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BwenGun posted:

Request that Japan be allowed to compete, because who here doesn't want to see TN-powered Gundam mechs doing a power-metal duet whilst hovering over the audience.

I don't want to see Japanese armoured walkers pointing their armaments at Comintern citizenry, thank you very much.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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What are our options on maintenence facilities? Can we commission some sort of dedicated maintenence plant or something, because space faring maintenence is only going to increase as time goes by

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Phew, I was worried that the maintenence issue hadn't been addressed via bills. But it looks like we have some options so our spacefaring comrades won't find their vessels undergoing rapid unplanned disassembly

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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Can't say we can blame the Irish for being secretly nuclear armed. Probably it'll pay off to not be upset at any secret nuclear power who're willing to disarm. Encourage some of the other inevitable secret nuclear states to do the same

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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

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1) Is a tunnel not an option? but if the locals are amicable to it, I see no reason not to extend a bridge to them

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