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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
They really wanna not give Dexter any kind of happy ending , but I kind of get that since he is 100% not a good person. New Blood was really good though.

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Tofu Injection
Feb 10, 2006

No need to panic.
New Blood was about as cool as it could be and was real fun to see Dexter doing his thing again but the ending was rock loving stupid. Which is a fair ending for anything Dexter.

Im stoked that they are gonna keep milking this thing because I am consistently entertained, but I do kind of feel bad for Michael C Hall; Dudes a really good actor and I cant imagine he expected to be tied to this trash for this long. Like, its a job and he's doing great, so good for him, but also he was David Fischer, this role has to bore the poo poo out of him.

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
Only halfway through the final episode but LOL thats got to be one of the least dramatic flashbacks ever.

"Stay away from Dexter." "Its too late!". Flashback to asking him if this seats taken and then walking away.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Tofu Injection posted:

New Blood was about as cool as it could be and was real fun to see Dexter doing his thing again but the ending was rock loving stupid. Which is a fair ending for anything Dexter.

Im stoked that they are gonna keep milking this thing because I am consistently entertained, but I do kind of feel bad for Michael C Hall; Dudes a really good actor and I cant imagine he expected to be tied to this trash for this long. Like, its a job and he's doing great, so good for him, but also he was David Fischer, this role has to bore the poo poo out of him.

My understand is that he basically burned a lot of bridges and Dexter is his only chance at a cash cow.

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
Sounds like the Keither Sutherland school of acting down to playing the same character for far too long and going on tour with your mid-band.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

PriorMarcus posted:

My understand is that he basically burned a lot of bridges and Dexter is his only chance at a cash cow.

Spill the goss.

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



He made a selfie video on the set of Resurrection, talking about how excited he was to be working on the show, but it wasn’t very convincing.

Jim Ross
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
Finished original sin, I liked it

I'm glad Sara Michelle Geller's character was just a good forensic investigator and not a secret killer but would've enjoyed way more of her in the show

The first morphing effect they used showing Brian aging in the mental hospital, I thought was fine

When they used it again when Harry had the gun pointed at him, I laughed and laughed :lmao: animorphs type stuff

Brian staring at the dancing happy Morgans while the background actor nods and smiles away in the corner made me laugh way too much at the final shot

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!

Annabel Pee posted:

Only halfway through the final episode but LOL thats got to be one of the least dramatic flashbacks ever.

"Stay away from Dexter." "Its too late!". Flashback to asking him if this seats taken and then walking away.

I was laughing at that one because it reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTKxh3Vlek

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Well, that was fun, if a little stupid. I dunno man, I'm happy to watch more Dexter, and the new kid is pretty good.

Did anyone else think it was a little gutless for them to have Dexter let Spencer go in favor of saving the kid? I thought for sure he was gonna let the kid drown, and I think it might have been a better show if they had, with Harry asking this time "The kid... was that you?" and Dexter's like "well, uhh..." A little too primetime TV hero, I thought, Dexter's not supposed to be actual Batman. But I dunno, aside from that, and Deb's stuff being a little irrelevant, I thought that was a pretty good season. Not an A+, but a fun B-.

Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

I wish I had a sister like my big strong Daddy :(
It totally meant my expectations for a Dexter prequel show. The dumb flashbacks throughout the season were the best part.

I hope this does well and we get another season, with Brian asking Dexter more irrelevant questions.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Yeah so overall Dexter Original Sin was overall pretty decent watch. I'm kind of curious if they'll come back and do another season since their doing Dexter Resurrection.


Speaking of which here is my Speculation on Dexter Resurrection is that Dexter is going to be Head Harry for Harrison who's in his first year of being a avenger or whatever.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



I was also thinking yeah that kid's dead for sure -- the water was closing over his head while Spencer and Dexter were still talking, and he was chained to the floor, and I figured even if Dexter jumped in right then there'd be no way to get him loose before he drowned. And I think that would have been maybe a better ending? Dexter comes to the same conclusion I did -- he can't save the kid -- and goes for Spencer, and then Harry is left wondering if Dexter let the kid die so he could kill Spencer, or if there was really no way to save the kid like Dexter keeps saying. Especially because IIRC Harry eventually blows his brains out because of Dexter? IDK. Still a fun season, I don't actually care that much if they want to make Dexter the family-friendly hero I guess.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I thought the Spencer stuff ended up being pretty uninteresting. After all that he's just another prick that wants to murder his family because he was cheated on? Great. The fact that he was chief and Harry vouched for him didn't even end up all that relevant.

Also how do you hire SMG and bill her as a special guest star and do absolutely nothing with the character at all.

Other than that I enjoyed it well enough. I like that they have the option of keeping Brian around as a ghost haunting this family in future seasons.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Phenotype posted:

Well, that was fun, if a little stupid. I dunno man, I'm happy to watch more Dexter, and the new kid is pretty good.

Did anyone else think it was a little gutless for them to have Dexter let Spencer go in favor of saving the kid? I thought for sure he was gonna let the kid drown, and I think it might have been a better show if they had, with Harry asking this time "The kid... was that you?" and Dexter's like "well, uhh..." A little too primetime TV hero, I thought, Dexter's not supposed to be actual Batman. But I dunno, aside from that, and Deb's stuff being a little irrelevant, I thought that was a pretty good season. Not an A+, but a fun B-.

Eh I could see original series Dexter choosing to save the kid, that part didn't seem too out of place to me. but the series does feel more like they're leaning into like, anti-hero a bit at the end.

Over all I thought it was decent. Not quite as good as the best seasons of the original series but not much worse. I'd watch more if they made more.

Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

I wish I had a sister like my big strong Daddy :(
I’ll be honest, I wanted this season to end up with Future Dexter recovering in the hospital.

And then I wanted the New Future Dexter Season to end with him dying again, so he could have another “life flashing before your eyes” moment that would be Dexter Original Sin season 2.

It would’ve been incredibly stupid hut a lot funnier

Qmass
Jun 3, 2003

what is up with the beginning cpr while still underwater poo poo this show did more than once?

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I appreciate the part where Harry just leaves a crime scene, gets assaulted, goes straight to the hospital for a personal call without reporting in, and gets to unilaterally close the case with no resolution or follow-up questions.

the serial killer wrote "we cool" in Harry's own blood, you can't argue with that!

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Phenotype posted:

I was also thinking yeah that kid's dead for sure -- the water was closing over his head while Spencer and Dexter were still talking, and he was chained to the floor, and I figured even if Dexter jumped in right then there'd be no way to get him loose before he drowned. And I think that would have been maybe a better ending? Dexter comes to the same conclusion I did -- he can't save the kid -- and goes for Spencer, and then Harry is left wondering if Dexter let the kid die so he could kill Spencer, or if there was really no way to save the kid like Dexter keeps saying. Especially because IIRC Harry eventually blows his brains out because of Dexter? IDK. Still a fun season, I don't actually care that much if they want to make Dexter the family-friendly hero I guess.

I'm not sure if he would have ever done that. Dexter's a psycho but its always been pretty well established by the character that he liked kids and he's good with them. Until they become teenage girls, at least. Which is probably pretty common for a lot of dads.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
That was a good, dumb season of television.

Got far more than I expected from it.

Still do not give a poo poo about any of the Deb plotlines.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Qmass posted:

what is up with the beginning cpr while still underwater poo poo this show did more than once?

It's to draw a parallel between the father and the son. Harry's original sin is letting his child die and then doing some awful poo poo in order to replace the hole left by his loss, which ultimately leads to the creation of a serial killer and a poo poo load of death. Meanwhile Dexter succeeds where Harry failed, proving that he's not only not all bad (as if that wasn't obvious) but also that in many ways he's actually better than his father.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Open Source Idiom posted:

It's to draw a parallel between the father and the son. Harry's original sin is letting his child die and then doing some awful poo poo in order to replace the hole left by his loss, which ultimately leads to the creation of a serial killer and a poo poo load of death. Meanwhile Dexter succeeds where Harry failed, proving that he's not only not all bad (as if that wasn't obvious) but also that in many ways he's actually better than his father.

That's a great explanation. It's a shame that the whole theme and the message is hosed since no human does CPR underwater and my only thought during those moments was "what the gently caress is happening". But, it's nice to now understand what the writers were going for.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Caesar Saladin posted:

I'm not sure if he would have ever done that. Dexter's a psycho but its always been pretty well established by the character that he liked kids and he's good with them. Until they become teenage girls, at least. Which is probably pretty common for a lot of dads.

Yeah, and Dexter isn't an emotionless robot, he's a completely unreliable narrator. Partially due to Harry really loving him up, but partially due to Dexter himself using it as an excuse, he's just a broken psychopath so he has no choice but to kill people.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Deb shouldve started this season in the police academy, not high school, that was such a weird choice. also having dexter kill a police captain is a bold move for the first season of the prequel lol. what even was the police captains deal?

highlight of the season was when brian punched the window and attacked harry

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
The captain was a genuinely good and honest man who lost his way, and started torturing children despite having no prior history of criminal behavior, because his wife cheated on him.

i'm pretty sure we're meant to take this at face value, despite it being somehow even dumber than any of the show's other villains

yes, even that one

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Do you think this show is aware that its raa raa up the police they're one big family message reads as, at best, extremely narrow minded and a product of privilege given how the Miami PD treated LaGuerta and -- in particular -- that one gay cop?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Dexter feels vehemently anti-cop at this stage of its run.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I appreciate the part where Harry just leaves a crime scene, gets assaulted, goes straight to the hospital for a personal call without reporting in, and gets to unilaterally close the case with no resolution or follow-up questions.

the serial killer wrote "we cool" in Harry's own blood, you can't argue with that!

I love how we establish so often that Dexter is different because he has The Code. The Code lets him keep doing his thing. Rule one of the The Code? Don't get caught. Set up rooms with plastic wrap, leave no evidence, etc.

Then we see Brian Moser's kills. He's taking zero precautions not to get caught. No plastic wrap, tons of evidence, killing people who are linked to him personally. How did he not get caught in the years between Original Sin and the OG show?

Miami Metro really is the worst, I guess.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Oh and I laughed at lot at Dexter just hosing down the blood soaked boat with a weak little hose with just water to clean up after the police captain.

Yup, no issues there! Definitely no chemicals needed, all the traces of the blood are gone! Let me go return this to my generous coworker!

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

WampaLord posted:

I love how we establish so often that Dexter is different because he has The Code. The Code lets him keep doing his thing. Rule one of the The Code? Don't get caught. Set up rooms with plastic wrap, leave no evidence, etc.

Then we see Brian Moser's kills. He's taking zero precautions not to get caught. No plastic wrap, tons of evidence, killing people who are linked to him personally. How did he not get caught in the years between Original Sin and the OG show?

Miami Metro really is the worst, I guess.

It really was kind of insane when Brian just chainsawed the woman out in public

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



Dexter’s killing people in sports arenas and arcades and driving boats back to the dock while covered in blood head to toe.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

CODChimera posted:

It really was kind of insane when Brian just chainsawed the woman out in public

Thankfully, Dexter will forget about the cases he previously connected as an evolving serial killer and not connect it to the chainsaw murder as one would expect with his characterization.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Thankfully, Dexter will forget about the cases he previously connected as an evolving serial killer and not connect it to the chainsaw murder as one would expect with his characterization.

Dexter lay off the weed.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

imagine watching this season and then moving onto regular S1 Dexter for the first time

i know that the shows always been loose with reality but the earlier seasons arent quite looney tunes territory

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

MiddleOne posted:

Dexter feels vehemently anti-cop at this stage of its run.

Bizarrely, I feel like it's the opposite.

Yes, we see the captain of homicide torture and murder one child and almost do the same to his own son, we see the casual homophobia of the police force keeping a good man in the closet, we see Harry have an affair with his informant directly leading to her dismemberment and the traumatising of her children which, in turn, lead to both of them becoming serial killers.

But, hey, they looked after that one cop who got shot in the neck and held a blood drive and now Deb wants to become a cop so it's all good.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Megillah Gorilla posted:

Bizarrely, I feel like it's the opposite.

Yes, we see the captain of homicide torture and murder one child and almost do the same to his own son, we see the casual homophobia of the police force keeping a good man in the closet, we see Harry have an affair with his informant directly leading to her dismemberment and the traumatising of her children which, in turn, lead to both of them becoming serial killers.

But, hey, they looked after that one cop who got shot in the neck and held a blood drive and now Deb wants to become a cop so it's all good.

Yeah it feels like the show's stance is that the cops have bad apples and can be corrupted, but the institution itself and the police community as a whole is good.

The homophobia feels more like a "hey, it was the 90s" thing.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




The original show's stance, if it had any, was that the police (as an institution) is a clownshow full of clowns. But also that most of those clowns are well meaning, pretty decent people. Most of the time anyway. Edit: Original Sin is probably the same, with the addition of 90's or 80's vibes.

itry fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Feb 18, 2025

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I think Dexter, in pretty much all incarnations, is just borderline incoherent when it comes to cop politics. This finale was definitely attempting to make statements that are directly in line with typical copaganda. It's just also, coincidentally, about a police department that happens to be riddled with homophobia, racism, sexism, psychopaths, and the people who enable the above. It doesn't see a contradiction.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

one thing that Dexter has done is made me notice whenever I see freshly trimmed trees

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Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Megillah Gorilla posted:


But, hey, they looked after that one cop who got shot in the neck and held a blood drive and now Deb wants to become a cop so it's all good.

It's really funny that Deb probably committed the third most felonies (behind Brian and Dexter) this season.

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