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Sierra Madre
Dec 24, 2011

But getting to it. That's not the hard part.

It's letting go.

Open Source Idiom posted:

I think Dexter, in pretty much all incarnations, is just borderline incoherent when it comes to cop politics. This finale was definitely attempting to make statements that are directly in line with typical copaganda. It's just also, coincidentally, about a police department that happens to be riddled with homophobia, racism, sexism, psychopaths, and the people who enable the above. It doesn't see a contradiction.

To a degree, Dexter has to be pro-police because they're contrasting a sclerotic and corrupt but ultimately well-intentioned legal system with a violent serial killer who's using the gaps in that legal system to sate his hunger. Were it less steeped in support for cops, it might have to start asking questions about whether Dexter himself is a natural outgrowth of the police's failures, and then he stops being a charmingly villainous protagonist.

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Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
Dexter treats its cops the way most people treat small children. We clearly doesn't expect them to actually finish whatever it is they're trying to do or win whatever game they're playing but we're happy to cheer them on and everyone claps that they gave it their all because it'd just be kind of mean to tell a kid they're playing softball wrong or something.

Tofu Injection
Feb 10, 2006

No need to panic.
Uma Thurman and Peter Dinklage cast for Ressurection, which is pretty neat.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Dinklage as Dexter's literal dark passenger, he's been riding on his back the whole time!

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010

Don’t be fooled it’s just a recast and they’re just using a size appropriate actor for Harrison falling on the treadmill

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008

Tofu Injection posted:

Uma Thurman and Peter Dinklage cast for Ressurection, which is pretty neat.

Krysten Ritter just announced too, sounds like such a random combination of actors for this thing.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Thurman and Dinklage are playing the villains of the season. Dexter always hires big names for its villains. (Charlotte loving Rampling.)

Ritter is probably a love interest.

Everyone else is just cops and more cops.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Dinklage as Dexter's literal dark passenger, he's been riding on his back the whole time!

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



Dinklage refusing to do the scene where Dexter wraps him on a tiny table and kills him with a pocket knife.

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006

Open Source Idiom posted:

Thurman and Dinklage are playing the villains of the season. Dexter always hires big names for its villains. (Charlotte loving Rampling.)

Ritter is probably a love interest.

Everyone else is just cops and more cops.

Ritter is playing a serial killer? Ok, that could mean a love interest too I guess.

Spermanent Record
Mar 28, 2007
I interviewed a NK escapee who came to my school and made a thread. Then life got in the way and the translation had to be postponed. I did finish it in the end, but nobody is going to pay 10 bux to update my.avatar
Ritter is playing a gross English titty vampire, duh!

esperantinc
May 5, 2003

JERRY! HELLO!

Open Source Idiom posted:

Thurman and Dinklage are playing the villains of the season. Dexter always hires big names for its villains. (Charlotte loving Rampling.)

Ritter is probably a love interest.

Everyone else is just cops and more cops.

Some more came out about this, but I don't want to spoil anyone, so it's here: https://tvline.com/casting-news/dexter-resurrection-neil-patrick-harris-cast-lowell-1235415989/

Neil Patrick Harris added to the cast as well.

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
I've been binge-watching OG Dexter, Season 2 is such a land of contrasts. Everything involving Lila is Dexter at its worst, the manic pixie dream girl of it all, the fact that she sets Batista up for rape, the fact that she's apparently just randomly allowed to walk around the police station or go walk into the morgue. And the way she resolves the Doakes situation.

All the Bay Harbour Butcher stuff is great though. The scene where Lundy brings Dexter in and they've found his blood slides is probably the peak of the show, and the characterisation of Dexter once he's caught Doakes is actually really subtle for this show and its a shame it never developed into the show those scenes where promising. The way Dexter is still all calm and pretending he's doing the right thing in his inner monologue but he's just being psycho and nasty to Doakes out loud and its never really commented on.

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
It’s been since a long time since S2 that when I saw Kristin Ritter get cast I said to myself “wait didn’t she play Lyla?”

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I mean if Dexter gets to survive death, twice so far, why shouldn't anyone else get the same privilege?

She could simply be a literal gross english titty vampire this time.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I mean if Dexter gets to survive death, twice so far, why shouldn't anyone else get the same privilege?

She could simply be a literal gross english titty vampire this time.

Also Doakes is just biding his time.

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008

itry posted:

Also Doakes is just biding his time.

I just got up to the Doakes death episode. The body is all burned in the explosion and Masuka says "African American, muscular, looks like its him." Dexter Babies just needs to introduce a second muscular black man who happened to drown in the river near the cabin.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Annabel Pee posted:

I just got up to the Doakes death episode. The body is all burned in the explosion and Masuka says "African American, muscular, looks like its him." Dexter Babies just needs to introduce a second muscular black man who happened to drown in the river near the cabin.

Are you saying Masuka may not be 100% trustworthy?

Imagine I posted the Masuka-miming-auto-asphyxiation-in-a-crime-scene gif, or w/e it was.

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019

auto erotic mummification ftw

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019

thank you for not quoting out of context

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
Whats up with Dexter and Deb always replying "I love you" from a partner with "Me too." Is that supposed to be a Morgan family quirk or is it a common expression because I've never heard anyone say that before, it sounds so odd.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Annabel Pee posted:

Whats up with Dexter and Deb always replying "I love you" from a partner with "Me too." Is that supposed to be a Morgan family quirk or is it a common expression because I've never heard anyone say that before, it sounds so odd.

Possibly it's a 'grew up in a broken home and afraid of relationships' quirk.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Open Source Idiom posted:

Thurman and Dinklage are playing the villains of the season. Dexter always hires big names for its villains. (Charlotte loving Rampling.)

Ritter is probably a love interest.

Everyone else is just cops and more cops.

Has a show wasted a famous actor more than Dexter had with Rampling.

Sigourney Weaver in the Defenders maybe?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Annabel Pee posted:

I've been binge-watching OG Dexter, Season 2 is such a land of contrasts. Everything involving Lila is Dexter at its worst, the manic pixie dream girl of it all, the fact that she sets Batista up for rape, the fact that she's apparently just randomly allowed to walk around the police station or go walk into the morgue. And the way she resolves the Doakes situation.

All the Bay Harbour Butcher stuff is great though. The scene where Lundy brings Dexter in and they've found his blood slides is probably the peak of the show, and the characterisation of Dexter once he's caught Doakes is actually really subtle for this show and its a shame it never developed into the show those scenes where promising. The way Dexter is still all calm and pretending he's doing the right thing in his inner monologue but he's just being psycho and nasty to Doakes out loud and its never really commented on.

Yeah absolute peak foe the show and the way it was resolved broke whatever faith I had in the show being entirely good. Then it became about enjoying what wasn't too bad.

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
I'm on rewatch now, up to Season 6 Ep 1, This is where the show jumps off a cliff, its turned into a cartoon this episode. Quinn has forgotten/doesn't care he thinks Dexter killed Lundy because Dexter faked the blood work to get Quinn off which should make him look more guilty than anything.

The theme of the season is so much more blatant than usual too. Its just like okay this is the religion season, every bad guy will have something to do with religion, Dexter will learn something about religion, and then he'll kill a religious big bad.

Ghost dad has just become a full on sitcom character, teaching Dexter how to dance and play football.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
I wish they would announce season 2 of Original Sin already.

TBH, I'd rather have more of that than whatever is planned with Resurrection.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Annabel Pee posted:

The theme of the season is so much more blatant than usual too. Its just like okay this is the religion season, every bad guy will have something to do with religion, Dexter will learn something about religion, and then he'll kill a religious big bad.

We almost had a jRPG season. What a miss.

Jim Ross
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:

Annabel Pee posted:



Ghost dad has just become a full on sitcom character, teaching Dexter how to dance and play football.

"I have idea what hammertime is or how it differs from regular time"



The latter dexter seasons still don't seem real sometimes

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

the treadmill scene is the funniest loving thing I've ever seen.

We'd send that around to friends when they were feeling low. Just masterclass

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
I think this is the most insane moment so far lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgEIQ8fh3SA


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On S6 now, Dexter seems like a complete different person. He has heart to hearts and gives good advice to Deb and is just like a 100% normal guy.

Just got up to the bit where Deb finds out Dexter's friends with Brother Sam. Lmao at the amount of coincidences if she stopped to think, his brothers the Ice Truck Killer, dates murderer Lila, friends with murder Miguel, wife killed by Trinity, hangs out with rapist Jordan Chase, dating a random blonde woman who appears at the same time she knows a random blonde woman is going around killing people, and now friends with another suspect.

Its lucky this world doesn't work on Breaking Bad logic and instead everyones memory just resets scene to scene. To be fair I guess in this universe like 1 in 10 people are serial killers and everyone knows one. Quinn dated Trinitys daughter, at least two have worked as cops. (Doakes and the guy from Original Sin)

Annabel Pee fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Mar 12, 2025

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



I gotta ask, what is the thread title from? I keep hearing it sung in my head like that stupid Diarrhea kids song "when your show looks kinda weird and you wish you weren't there, diarrhea (cha-cha-cha) diarrhea"

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010

https://youtu.be/znwaVBtVtxA

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
Half way through Season 7 now. Honestly its not so bad, I think my expectations were super low just because of how bad Season 8 gets from memory. Dexter didn't really need another girlfriend though, in my memory I didn't even remember Lumen and Hannah being different characters.

Its got a few good things going for it. I like after Deb finds out that she slowly pieces together various things, the Ice truck killer wrapping her like Dexter, the Doakes stuff, Trinity, Dexter and Lumen's killings. It makes everything feel a bit more real, its one of the few times someone has a memory on the show.

I feel bad for Angel's sister. She just gets dropped into the show to be abused by everyone whilst basically becoming a full time mum to Dexter's kids for some reason.

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
HAHAHAHA there's a bit in S8E3 where Dexter is supposed to be showing Deb a cctv clip on his phone and its clearly just the footage from the earlier episode complete with close ups and angle changes.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Annabel Pee posted:

Half way through Season 7 now. Honestly its not so bad, I think my expectations were super low just because of how bad Season 8 gets from memory. Dexter didn't really need another girlfriend though, in my memory I didn't even remember Lumen and Hannah being different characters.

Its got a few good things going for it. I like after Deb finds out that she slowly pieces together various things, the Ice truck killer wrapping her like Dexter, the Doakes stuff, Trinity, Dexter and Lumen's killings. It makes everything feel a bit more real, its one of the few times someone has a memory on the show.

I feel bad for Angel's sister. She just gets dropped into the show to be abused by everyone whilst basically becoming a full time mum to Dexter's kids for some reason.

It's a shame the criminal underworld plot ends because the writer's strike delay, and the actor had moved on to be in the movie Thor. Him just dying after one gunshot with being dumped in the ocean sucks, he was such a different kind of antagonist.

ONWARD TO THE NEXT SERIAL KILLER OF THE SEASON

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
Ah I didn't know Ray Stevenson had to be wrote out, yeah he was a high point of the Season at least it was something a bit different.

Finished the whole thing onto Resurrection now. By Season 8, the writers had normalised being okay with someone being a serial killer so much I think they had genuinely forgotten most people wouldn't be cool with it. Dexter kills a guy in front of them and Angel and Quinn just shrug. Laguerta had been going around telling Matthews and everyone Dexter is the bay harbour butcher and everyone just shrugs. She even had concrete proof with the blood slide but no one seemed to care about this for some reason.

Its like the opposite of building up the tension. If Dexter was ever discovered instead of it being a huge life-altering discovery for most of the characters it would just be like, oh yeah that guy who Doakes accused of being a serial killer and Laguerta accused of being a serial killer and Quinn accused of being a serial killer and his wife was killed by a serial killer and three of his best friends were serial killers and his sister knows he's a serial killer and his brother was a serial killer and we just saw him kill someone and didn't care, guess what he's a serial killer.

Annabel Pee fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Mar 18, 2025

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Annabel Pee posted:

Ah I didn't know Ray Stevenson had to be wrote out, yeah he was a high point of the Season at least it was something a bit different.

Finished the whole thing onto Resurrection now. By Season 8, the writers had normalised being okay with someone being a serial killer so much I think they had genuinely forgotten most people wouldn't be cool with it. Dexter kills a guy in front of them and Angel and Quinn just shrug. Laguerta had been going around telling Matthews and everyone Dexter is the bay harbour butcher and everyone just shrugs. She even had concrete proof with the blood slide but no one seemed to care about this for some reason.

Its like the opposite of building up the tension. If Dexter was ever discovered instead of it being a huge life-altering discovery for most of the characters it would just be like, oh yeah that guy who Doakes accused of being a serial killer and Laguerta accused of being a serial killer and Quinn accused of being a serial killer and his wife was killed by a serial killer and three of his best friends were serial killers and his sister knows he's a serial killer and his brother was a serial killer and we just saw him kill someone and didn't care, guess what he's a serial killer.

You owe it to yourself to rewatch that short parade sequence from seasons one or two. It's incredible how much the later seasons are like that sequence if played straight and bad.

Nicest thing I can say about the final season is that it opening with someone Dexter loves absolutely loving destroyed by him or the choices people have made due to his existence was... a little refreshing?

God does Hannah suck. Not as bad as Loy-lah, but she's some great Dexter is her soulmate because we've decided they realize they're soulmates writing.

Harrison was sure better off with her than his loving grandparents and siblings.

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
Yeah the writing around Hannah flips between "bad guy" mode, when she randomly drugs Dexter and Deb just as a I'm back in town message, to what it becomes in the last few episodes where she's just a generic love interest who we are supposed to believe is gonna be a good influence on Harrison.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Annabel Pee posted:

Yeah the writing around Hannah flips between "bad guy" mode, when she randomly drugs Dexter and Deb just as a I'm back in town message, to what it becomes in the last few episodes where she's just a generic love interest who we are supposed to believe is gonna be a good influence on Harrison.

How is she address in New Blood? I've not bothered watching that yet for obvious reasons.

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LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

PriorMarcus posted:

How is she address in New Blood? I've not bothered watching that yet for obvious reasons.

Died of cancer. Harrison found a letter Dexter wrote them in her possessions and discovered he was still alive.

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