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Looper
Mar 1, 2012



Stux posted:

what puts people off modding are the insane humorless freaks in this thread who if they got hit with a 6 hour probe would lose their minds and send 5 million PMs, who blow up absoluite non issues into rage filled nonsense, generally just a drag to the forums and are at best white noise no one notices or cares about. this feedback thread was extremely quiet and plesaent until very recently and now its filled with people who have never told a joke, wouldnt be able to identify one at five paces, and seemingly exist to be misery elementals. no idea why anyone would care about what any of you have to say, or why they should.

they're called karens

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ShallNoiseUpon
Sep 10, 2010



The Karening of Something Awful

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012





This thread is like QCS methadone

ShallNoiseUpon
Sep 10, 2010



anyone who wants to complain about stux you all can share my resetera account if that makes you happy?

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011







Thank you for Big Joker

E: this has been enlightening

oddium
Feb 20, 2006


this thread should have been called the savestate of games. i dunno whatver

ShallNoiseUpon
Sep 10, 2010



i'm gonna quote the big joker and not timg :evilbuddy:

Saxophone
Sep 19, 2006




I do like the part where everyone that quoted me just conveniently left off the part where the admin defended them.

Also, holy poo poo why are slurs allowed anywhere on this site? Which I guess isn't a games question, but Jesus Christ.

I guess where I'm at is this: You're perpetuating if not encouraging lovely posters to drive away good posters on a site that admits its' user base is dwindling. Why would you do that? Why does one poster's "fun" supercede lots of other posters unfun?

I'll leave it there because if you can't see how that negative feedback loop turns the site into a poo poo place, I don't think there's a magic combination of words to get you to.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

easy
breezy


Saxophone posted:

I do like the part where everyone that quoted me just conveniently left off the part where the admin defended them.

Also, holy poo poo why are slurs allowed anywhere on this site? Which I guess isn't a games question, but Jesus Christ.

I guess where I'm at is this: You're perpetuating if not encouraging lovely posters to drive away good posters on a site that admits its' user base is dwindling. Why would you do that? Why does one poster's "fun" supercede lots of other posters unfun?

I'll leave it there because if you can't see how that negative feedback loop turns the site into a poo poo place, I don't think there's a magic combination of words to get you to.

your assumption is you are the good poster and not a lovely poster everyone would be glad to see the back of :blastu:

dreffen
Dec 3, 2005

MEDIOCRE, MORSOV!



ShallNoiseUpon posted:

Admins: Yeah mods can set their own rules in their forums slurs aren't banned in CCCC because each thread is it's own little community and they can decide for themselves


Posters: drat THE ADMINS SAID YOU CAN DO SLURS???

To not be a dipshit for a second you're misunderstanding what was said -- slurs are not against the site-wide rules, moderators are able to come up with their own rules for their own forums and enforce them as they see fit, for the large part. Within that wide leeway is the ability to allow or not allow various language. Slurs aren't allowed in Games right now, it's that simple. Admins will absolutely back mods in stuff like that. Where the confusion comes is specifically with CCCC which is kind of a middle zone that's not really a real forum just a parking ground for lonely threads. The admin position is merely that "they are not banned in the CCCC rules or site-wide rules so they are allowed in CCCC" this can obviously be adjusted by individual thread IKs there.


Also like y'all were whinging about CCCC rules in Games no one here can help you there.

But that's not correct either.

quote:

(1) Don't break any of the big forums rules (examples include posting child porn or homegrown, doxing people, threatening the president, being overtly racist, sexist, anti-trans, using hate speech, etc).

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk


College Slice

the forums aren't dying, that was a lie lowtax made up to get more cookie money

Relax Or DIE
May 8, 2006

"My brain is amazing! It's full of wrinkles, and... Uh... Wait... What am I trying to say?"


Saxophone posted:

I do like the part where everyone that quoted me just conveniently left off the part where the admin defended them.

Also, holy poo poo why are slurs allowed anywhere on this site? Which I guess isn't a games question, but Jesus Christ.

I guess where I'm at is this: You're perpetuating if not encouraging lovely posters to drive away good posters on a site that admits its' user base is dwindling. Why would you do that? Why does one poster's "fun" supercede lots of other posters unfun?

I'll leave it there because if you can't see how that negative feedback loop turns the site into a poo poo place, I don't think there's a magic combination of words to get you to.

the slurs thing is a higher level discussion than here, yeah

the thing about this line of argument is that Games is still very active and better than it has been in the past, at least as far as I can remember. for all my many problems with it you'd be hard pressed to find a better place to talk about videogames online.

Vulin
Jun 15, 2012


lol, he put himself on a crusade against threads he finds unfunny and calls others freaks. Really overbrimming with some weird energies.

ShallNoiseUpon
Sep 10, 2010



dreffen posted:

But that's not correct either.

If you believe this is a large contradiction you are welcome to make a QCS thread about it, which is the forum for having these issues addressed.

cheetah7071 posted:

the forums aren't dying, that was a lie lowtax made up to get more cookie money

Also this. Jeff has posted the data at least a couple times and there is a healthy new stream of users.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002



Vulin posted:

lol, he put himself on a crusade against threads he finds unfunny and calls others freaks. Really overbrimming with some weird energies.

If you take Stux at his word then he's literally a backseat mod who shitposts to destroy threads he doesn't like

But it's all "ironic" so it's ok I guess!

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013



first, they came for the stadia thread, and i said a lot of things, mostly untrue, because i have a big healthy brain

dreffen
Dec 3, 2005

MEDIOCRE, MORSOV!



ShallNoiseUpon posted:

If you believe this is a large contradiction you are welcome to make a QCS thread about it, which is the forum for having these issues addressed.

It is a contradiction. These are things that are, generously speaking, the complete opposite.

But I'm not making a thread in QCS because some lovely admin was wrong when trying to poorly defend using a slur.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

easy
breezy


Vulin posted:

lol, he put himself on a crusade against threads he finds unfunny and calls others freaks. Really overbrimming with some weird energies.

if u obsessively hate post or trawl through reddit users post histories for epic burns you are a freak and should be destroyed with a spirit bomb.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013



im still confused on why saying "you can say this word in cccc unless your IK bans it" is being twisted into "admins love to say slurs, all the time", and especially why this discussion is happening in state of games, 3 days later

Terrible Opinions
Oct 17, 2013





The answer is very easily antagonized people will not stop poking eachother.

Looper
Mar 1, 2012



dreffen posted:

It is a contradiction. These are things that are, generously speaking, the complete opposite.

But I'm not making a thread in QCS because some lovely admin was wrong when trying to poorly defend using a slur.

then what are you trying to accomplish?

Brian Worms
May 29, 2007


Doublestep posted:

im still confused on why saying "you can say this word in cccc unless your IK bans it" is being twisted into "admins love to say slurs, all the time", and especially why this discussion is happening in state of games, 3 days later

I think because the hope is it's a more sympathetic tack than "some guy keeps posting a picture of a clown in the thread where we post reddit quotes".

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk


College Slice

interesting how the stux discussion, when challenged, becomes the same blizzwatch slapfight that should have ended pages ago

dreffen
Dec 3, 2005

MEDIOCRE, MORSOV!



Looper posted:

then what are you trying to accomplish?

What does posting about anything accomplish?

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009



Doublestep posted:

im still confused on why saying "you can say this word in cccc unless your IK bans it" is being twisted into "admins love to say slurs, all the time", and especially why this discussion is happening in state of games, 3 days later

You would think these weirdos would wait longer before attempting to rewrite history.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Vulin
Jun 15, 2012


Stux posted:

if u obsessively hate post or trawl through reddit users post histories for epic burns you are a freak and should be destroyed with a spirit bomb.

sure, do whatever makes you happy, but if you style yourself as the resident hall monitor of a dead comedy forum you don't have much of a leg to stand on in regards to calling others freaks, tbh.

ShallNoiseUpon
Sep 10, 2010



Doublestep posted:

im still confused on why saying "you can say this word in cccc unless your IK bans it" is being twisted into "admins love to say slurs, all the time", and especially why this discussion is happening in state of games, 3 days later

We’re talking about the same website where people thought Fluffdaddy’s persona 3 avatar was a nazi thing

Looper
Mar 1, 2012



dreffen posted:

What does posting about anything accomplish?

well i can't speak for everyone but i like posting about the games i'm playing, and sometimes about other media too. helps get me through the work day, y'know?

Infected
Oct 17, 2012

Salt Incarnate




Doublestep posted:

im still confused on why saying "you can say this word in cccc unless your IK bans it" is being twisted into "admins love to say slurs, all the time", and especially why this discussion is happening in state of games, 3 days later

I mean this is already twisted itself, and it very much suits one group of posters, which is why this happens just about every time there is interforum drama.

The Shortest Path
Jun 21, 2012



Saxophone posted:

I do like the part where everyone that quoted me just conveniently left off the part where the admin defended them.

Also, holy poo poo why are slurs allowed anywhere on this site? Which I guess isn't a games question, but Jesus Christ.

I guess where I'm at is this: You're perpetuating if not encouraging lovely posters to drive away good posters on a site that admits its' user base is dwindling. Why would you do that? Why does one poster's "fun" supercede lots of other posters unfun?

I'll leave it there because if you can't see how that negative feedback loop turns the site into a poo poo place, I don't think there's a magic combination of words to get you to.

The site's user base is not shrinking.

ShallNoiseUpon posted:

We’re talking about the same website where people thought Fluffdaddy’s persona 3 avatar was a nazi thing

Lmao

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

easy
breezy


dreffen posted:

It is a contradiction. These are things that are, generously speaking, the complete opposite.

But I'm not making a thread in QCS because some lovely admin was wrong when trying to poorly defend using a slur.

what you mean by this is you actually dont care. if you cared you would make the qcs thread and demand change, or leave rather than stick around in a place that allows things that disgust you. but you dont care, none of you do, youre all just trying to use it to win some pointless argument because your thread got moved, and thats far more offensive than arf calling you the r word lol

absolute coward poo poo, very pathetic.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

( •̀ ω •́ )✧

Saxophone posted:

Also, holy poo poo why are slurs allowed anywhere on this site? Which I guess isn't a games question, but Jesus Christ.

this is a question for the admins, not the games mods

good luck ever getting a straightforward answer though, in QCS or anywhere else

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!


ShallNoiseUpon posted:

We’re talking about the same website where people thought Fluffdaddy’s persona 3 avatar was a nazi thing

I think that's Persona 2

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011






Naw it was 3, but specifically the PSP version

please knock Mom!
Nov 9, 2011

:gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj:


Saxophone posted:

Also, holy poo poo why are slurs allowed anywhere on this site? Which I guess isn't a games question, but Jesus Christ.

Why do you think it's obscene and bad to use 'retarded' but okay to use 'insane', a word which is just as ableist and is used to stigmatize the mentally ill far more often? None of you social rejects even cares about doing anything about ableism. You're just going for some weird rear end powerplay because you've got nothing else going on.

dreffen
Dec 3, 2005

MEDIOCRE, MORSOV!



Stux posted:

what you mean by this is you actually dont care. if you cared you would make the qcs thread and demand change, or leave rather than stick around in a place that allows things that disgust you. but you dont care, none of you do, youre all just trying to use it to win some pointless argument because your thread got moved, and thats far more offensive than arf calling you the r word lol

absolute coward poo poo, very pathetic.

[absoluteluy reading the post] haha cool. thats nice. see you later

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012


Take the slur debate to QCS. You clearly all have a lot to say about it and this isn’t the place where it’ll do any good. Games mods already probate for that word. This fight is better had elsewhere.

Saxophone
Sep 19, 2006




please knock Mom! posted:

Why do you think it's obscene and bad to use 'retarded' but okay to use 'insane', a word which is just as ableist and is used to stigmatize the mentally ill far more often? None of you social rejects even cares about doing anything about ableism. You're just going for some weird rear end powerplay because you've got nothing else going on.

Hi.

1) You're right and it's a thing I'm working on. Fair call. Thank you.

2) gently caress off with your "social reject" poo poo. We're all loving people and can just address each as such. No need for name calling.

3) you sound really loving hypocritical when you don't call out the people agreeing with you for also using the word you called me out for and also words like "freak"

4 But seriously gently caress off with this poo poo.

please knock Mom!
Nov 9, 2011

:gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj::gdj:


1 out of 4, I'll take it

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

hope you're doing well


Harrow posted:

Take the slur debate to QCS. You clearly all have a lot to say about it and this isn’t the place where it’ll do any good. Games mods already probate for that word. This fight is better had elsewhere.

you may or may not be aware but a good number of personal insults and baseless mischaracterizations have been let fly itt well after you warned people to knock it off

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